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yia
03-29-2009, 01:32 PM
hi guys


it is worth getting rid of my dvx100b for a canon hf100 or hf s100 consumer hd camcorder?

let me know what you guys think

blackdogs377
03-29-2009, 01:49 PM
nope.

andythefilmer
03-29-2009, 02:38 PM
are you serious?
its called UPREZ!!! dont ditch the amazing dvx for some little consumer camera!!! if you want an hd picture just uprez it and in the end, its almost as good...

Ian-T
03-29-2009, 03:09 PM
It depends on what you want to do. But I'll say even an HD video from those little cams, downrezzed to SD resolution looks more detailed than any uprezzed SD. Uprezzing SD doesn't give you new information in the picture.

andythefilmer
03-29-2009, 03:14 PM
youre right... but it sure looks better on an hdtv than just normal sd from the dvx, and you have all your amazing dvx controls like native 24p and scene files...

Nathyn
03-29-2009, 03:40 PM
I'd say sale that bad boy get the HF100 and a beachtek and don't look back. I talk about things like this in my "Action Filmmaking" book. You can indeed use a good consumer cam for filmmaking. Some people on DVX have done it and it looks awesome!

-Nate

ryvac
03-29-2009, 03:54 PM
keep the DVX.
isn't the Canon HF100 a single chip anyway?? (not sure)

Jordan_S
03-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Must this be a desert island question? Apples and oranges are being compared. A bit more patience will allow you to purchase an hf100 while holding onto the DVX, if $529 for an excellent consumer HD camcorder is not within your means at this time. Using, studying, reading about, and experimenting with the DVX will always be invaluable. There's a reason why it's still selling for $2400.

commalot
03-29-2009, 06:08 PM
Besides not having all the manual features of the DVX I think the biggest drawback would be audio. The DVX has great audio features. Save up and keep the DVX.

yia
03-30-2009, 11:41 AM
I like the manual controls on the dvx, but somehow I not happy with the picture quality especially the wide shot that can't be zoom in and the detail not really there. Here is why I want the hf100, cheap and I heard hd convert to sd looks better than sd ( correct me if i'm wrong on this)

William_Robinette
03-30-2009, 12:06 PM
The movie November got the DVX nominated (and then it won) best cinematography at Sundance when it came out.

Any time I think about upgrading from my DVX I always remember this and that it is the operator and not the camera. Spend time learning and lighting and when you get good enough, it won't matter that you are not shooting HD, I promise.

grimrebes
03-30-2009, 12:28 PM
I will second William. James Longley won three Sundance awards, including best cinematography, in 2006 with Iraq in Fragments. Granted, it was uprezzed in a proprietary way to a film out, but the DVX is a solid camera with far better controls than a consumer camera. If you interest is resolution, fine, upgrade. But if you want to learn how to shoot well, the controls and fine tuning are they keys to the camera, and will yield far better results than a consumer camera. Especially with regards to lighting, framing, composition, set and wardrobe design (one that most ignore, but becomes more important with lower color space)...

yia
03-30-2009, 11:00 PM
thanks guys
there is dvx member that lived in my town make a movie with his dvx100a and the picture quality looks so freakin good... I mean looks just like film... I don't know how he did it but is hard to do what he does.

does any know any books or dvd out there where I can learn to use my dvx

thanks

andythefilmer
03-30-2009, 11:04 PM
THE DVX BOOK BY BARRY GREEN!!!!!

I am going to link it to you!

http://www.amazon.com/DVX-DVD-Book/dp/B0007P8KE6/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1238475816&sr=8-6

yia
03-31-2009, 09:01 AM
Thanks. Andy

ayyoub
04-01-2009, 11:09 PM
Go ahead, this exactly what I just did this week :)
Tired of my EX-camcorder DVX100A, the firewire connection drove me crazy, each time I plug the cable in the wrong way, I burn the port, I did it 3 time (the DVX one time and 2 more with handy mini-dv)
I just sold mine on Ebay yesterday, and I ordered the SONY HDR SR12, it's still in the way, but I'm sure that first; it's more convenient to use, no waiting time no cables. Second, you have an 12Mp camera too. third, the quality is really good, with an extra wide angle or 35mm, you can shoot HQ footage, if you want to check out some samples, visit these links:
1- An review : http://vimeo.com/groups/hdrsr11/videos/3234014
2- Trailer for the new pilot shot entirely with Twoneil Adapter: http://vimeo.com/groups/hdrsr11/videos/3921406
Last but not the least, the future is HDD and SD, don't waste your time with tapes, with a good HDV and good editing system, you can do "des chef d'oeuvre"
I'm sure the DVX is a great camcorder, but we were not for each other :beer:

Paladin
04-02-2009, 10:25 AM
Hmm. Personally, there is no way I would ever trade my DVX100b for a single chip, consumer grade camcorder, even if it is HD. For me, it just wouldn't be worth it.

I'm wondering, how does one plug a firewire cable in wrong? The way they are shaped means they can only be inserted one way.

commalot
04-02-2009, 09:54 PM
Hmm. Personally, there is no way I would ever trade my DVX100b for a single chip, consumer grade camcorder, even if it is HD. For me, it just wouldn't be worth it.

I'm wondering, how does one plug a firewire cable in wrong? The way they are shaped means they can only be inserted one way.

I wanted to know the same thing. See this thread.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=166403

andythefilmer
04-02-2009, 10:54 PM
some of the new computers have 4 pin firewire inputs. instead of the larger 6 pin to 4 pin cables, you use a 4 to 4 pin cable which is the same on both sides (the same you would use for a slave camera connection)

R Hudson
04-03-2009, 07:26 AM
I don't think I'd base my camera choice strictly on the possibility of frying a firewire port.

The utter lack of dedicated controls on many of these newer cameras plus the lack of a decent viewfinder (or none at all) is what is preventing me from switching.

I think some folks just get all caught-up in the whole HD thing.

Don't get me wrong. Going tapeless is nice, but not with consumer grade cameras, IMO.