Filmic resolution to be project on Big Screen

[Mj882]

I was reading the Kenstone.com review of the AG-HPX170, he claims that the 720/24PN format could give the desired film look in terms of format and frame rate (of course he talks about lighting, camera movement etc too).

However he does say that "unless you are shooting for large video screen projection or a film out, shoot 720/24PN format". I'm required to screen my piece on a fairly big screen, any recommendations for how I should shoot to stray from the "video" look and obtain a more "filmic" look.

Thanks

[DM_rider]

Well start by shooting 1080p if you can handle the extra storage and shorter shooting times on the p2 cards. The rest is up to you. There isn't really a formula with the 170, or any other camera for the mater, to make it look more "filmic." Good lighting, acting, and camera work will take care of that.

[Barry_Green]

Use 24p. Whether 1080/24pA or 720/24pN is up to you; 1080/24pA will hold up better to bigscreen projection but takes up 2.5x as much space. But the #1 key thing for making a video camera look more like film is to use the 24p frame rate.

After that, use the cinelike-D gamma; try using scene file F6 for some good default settings.

[Mj882]

Use 24p. Whether 1080/24pA or 720/24pN is up to you; 1080/24pA will hold up better to bigscreen projection but takes up 2.5x as much space. But the #1 key thing for making a video camera look more like film is to use the 24p frame rate.

After that, use the cinelike-D gamma; try using scene file F6 for some good default settings.

Ah yeah, I set a few of the settings similar to the kenstone review (the Barry Green book was mentioned, however I'm not from the U.S so I wasn't able to get hold of it).

I'm planning on shooting around 60 mins of footage...I don't have an external hard drive or an amazing PC what would you recommend? Also any recommendations for the transferring method of the files? USB or Firewire?

[VictorS]

Ah yeah, I set a few of the settings similar to the kenstone review (the Barry Green book was mentioned, however I'm not from the U.S so I wasn't able to get hold of it).

I'm planning on shooting around 60 mins of footage...I don't have an external hard drive or an amazing PC what would you recommend? Also any recommendations for the transferring method of the files? USB or Firewire?

Hard drives are so cheap, get one and a PC/Mac with a P2 card slot. Dedicate a person on set for offloading P2 card to the drive while you're shooting.

If you're going to be working with 1080p, you should consider bringing your editing computer up to date.

[Nexis]

Also any recommendations for the transferring method of the files? USB or Firewire?

That depends on whether you're editing with a PC or a Mac. If a Mac, use Firewire. If a PC, use USB.



Hard drives are so cheap, get one and a PC/Mac with a P2 card slot.

I think what Victor meant to recommend was that you get a computer with a pc card (PCMCIA) slot (there is no such thing as a P2 card slot, strictly speaking). :)

[Carlos Corral]

And I don't think they make PCMCIA slots for macs. But you can always get something like this:

http://www.duel-systemsadapters.com/?productid=DP-0001

[Mj882]

I intend to use a USB 2.0 cable, which seems the most efficient and inexpensive. The PC I will be editing on does not have a PCMCIA slot, however I do own a laptop that does. Perhaps I could just transfer them onto the laptop and then transfer onto the PC I'm editing with?

[Denada Chile]

Use 24p. Whether 1080/24pA or 720/24pN is up to you; 1080/24pA will hold up better to bigscreen projection but takes up 2.5x as much space. But the #1 key thing for making a video camera look more like film is to use the 24p frame rate.

After that, use the cinelike-D gamma; try using scene file F6 for some good default settings.

OK Barry but I still get al 1080/24 pa on a FS100 those bothering video lines, that I dont see in 720/24 why is that Im really worried because Ive really done the comparison and 720 looks a lot more filmic...maybe I should import to FCP in some different way? what's wrong? Help here...
Thanks.
L.

[Barry_Green]

If you're shooting 1080/24pA, you have to remove the pulldown when you import to FCP and that'll get rid of the interlace lines.

[Denada Chile]

Thanks Barry but as I use the FS100 it makes Quicktime clips so there's no import...I thought the FS100 had solved the problem with it's last up grade...but I seem to be wrong..

[evsdan]

Denada you should still be able to remove the pull down on the QT files.

If not, then you can always shoot in mxf mode in the firestore.

[Denada Chile]

Thanks EVS I'll try to get it out of the Qtimes.

[Mj882]

Thanks EVS I'll try to get it out of the Qtimes.

So 720/24pn and 1080/24PA are both equally 'filmic' both in 24 frame rate?

[bikefilms]

So 720/24pn and 1080/24PA are both equally 'filmic' both in 24 frame rate?

Mj882,

Yes, shooting 24 frames per second on any recording mode (1080 or 720 or 480) will be the most 'filmic' to the majority of people.

24fps is a world standard for film projection, and is seen by movie-goers more than other projection speeds.

However, using 18fps is very 'filmic' too if you want that "Super8" film look ;)

-Andrew