Didn't know Chimp's were that big or dangerous.

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/16/chimp.attack/index.html

Yikes! 200lbs? In it's 20's? Older then me probably!

I feel horrible that the chimps owner had to stab it to help her friend. The story said it was like a child to the woman. I can't imagine having to kill a pet to save a friend. Horrible situation to be in.

[BLUESPIDER]

"In 2005, a different chimp escaped from California's Animal Haven Ranch and chewed off a man's nose and genitals."


Man, I do not want to know what this guy was actually doing. Poor chimp.

[Spartacus]

WTF?
A chimp as a "pet"...???
That´s just sick.
I can´t believe that people doing this to a primate are if only a bit animal lovers.
That´s just some strange fetish, a childs fantasy that has surived the stage of reasoning.

[Capt Quirk]

According to Federal Wildlife Marshal Willenholly (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001291/) , they are the most dangerous animal on the face of the Earth. Ok, so he was referring to an Orangutan, but there isn't much difference. They are deceptively powerful, and have a wicked bite. In nature, they are capable of being extremely savage. What makes them so dangerous, is the fact that people are oblivious to the above facts. They see it and say "Oh! Look at the cute little monkey!". They just never expect it to go Apeshit on them, and that is when it usually happens.

[taormina]

Something like seven times stronger than a grown man.

[Sad Max]

Chimp days on set are always kind of a pain.

Must minimize crew.

Must not *look* at the chimp.

Must not get too *close* to the chimp.

Must not speak too loud, make too much noise, or perform sudden movements, near the chimp.

Worst part was a few episodes ago, when everything I designed for the chimp's use had to literally be submitted for approval, to ensure that the chimp would be happy with it. It finally happened, I was working for the chimp...

[Terry_Lasater]

Makes Bale seem like a puppy.

[Spartacus]

Makes Bale seem like a puppy.

or simply closely related.

[Mark Harris]

Didn't know Chimps were that big or dangerous.


Are you kidding? Haven't you see the damage TehComo can do to a thread?

[Everts]

Last year a chimp had attacked a frequent visiter at a Zoo in the Netherlands.
They said she had been eyeballing the chimp for days .

Atleast that was the chimps testimony :)

True story

[Matt Grunau]

""In 2005, a different chimp escaped from California's Animal Haven Ranch and chewed off a man's nose and genitals.""


So THAT'S what happened to them. *sneezes*


*weeps softly*

[Sad Max]

Last year a chimp had attacked a frequent visiter at a Zoo in the Netherlands.
They said she had been eyeballing the chimp for days .

Atleast that was the chimps testimony :)

True story

Because among chimps staring is a prelude to aggression.

Very foolish.

[Capt Quirk]

Chimp days on set are always kind of a pain.

Must minimize crew.

Must not *look* at the chimp.

Must not get too *close* to the chimp.

Must not speak too loud, make too much noise, or perform sudden movements, near the chimp.

Worst part was a few episodes ago, when everything I designed for the chimp's use had to literally be submitted for approval, to ensure that the chimp would be happy with it. It finally happened, I was working for the chimp...I was going to say, that sounds a lot like Bale. Weren't we talking about Chimps?

[Sad Max]

Actually, I have never heard of a chimp complaining simply because someone was tinkering with lights, in his eye line.

[Capt Quirk]

Actually, I have never heard of a chimp complaining simply because someone was tinkering with lights, in his eye line.
Hmm... They work for bananas, and don't cuss out the crew... I wonder if you could teach them to act moody and mumble their lines.... " I'm Batchimp!" Watch your step Bale, you can be replaced!

[Richard J. Johnson]

I would never go anywhere near a monkey of any kind. Eff that.

[Hawk Teflon]

They just never expect it to go Apeshi* on them, and that is when it usually happens.

There's a reason it's called Apeshi*

[Capt Quirk]

There's a reason it's called Apeshi*
Cuz it's brown and smells like bananas?

[DC]

Last summer while shooting in Kenya . . .

I came out of my tent and walked around the other side down the path. I turned to my right and saw two baboons about 10 feet away from me. Looked like a mother and child. For probably less than two seconds we stared at each other. During those two seconds I realized three things:

1. Staring is a prelude to a challenge

2. Showing teeth (such as in "smiling") is a direct challenge

3. Baboons can be extremely aggressive and vicious, easily shredding and dismembering a human quicker than you can finish reading this post


I turned and walked away briskly. I wanted no part of that.

Baboons in our camp! Somehow they got through the electrified perimeter fence. If that wasn't bad enough . . .

I knew that if baboons were in there, then there was a strong possibility that leopards were in there. [NOTE: leopards eat baboons] Leopards tend to hang around in trees and are generally active and hunting at night. Oh let me tell you how much fun my solo nightwalks were going back and forth from my tent to the communal area!

[Capt Quirk]

Baboons are vicious beasties, and you were lucky dude!

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

But they are soooooo cute!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jzHfibgEhU

Hahaha. Baby animals are always cute. It's when they grow up the trouble starts. Whether it is a 200lb 20yr old chimp or a grown tiger working for Siegfried & Roy (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8391183/)

It's just better to let nature be in nature. And someone needs to save all those chimps from the crazy japanese. They have monkey waiters and I've seen lots of clips of them dressing up chimps. For some reason Japan is like the Johnny Carson show 30 years ago.

[DC]

Yep, I was totally lucky! I just try to keep my distance when around creatures that could cause some serious damage. I'll get close, but not TOO close! :)

[Mike Harvey]

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20050817&slug=duck17m

and the follow up

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20050824&slug=gooey24m

This ended up making national headlines for a while. When we first reported this story at work, everyone was so appalled over the fact that this "pet" duck was taken away. Except for me, a hunter, and one of the TD's, an ardent vegetarian environmentalist (and the irony of that wasn't lost on either of us). We were appalled that folks were so quick to take the "ahhhh, isn't it cute" mentality, without appreciating the fact that it was a wild animal being kept in a mint vault with diapers. That was the cruel part of the story.

I call it the "Bambification" of animals. People look at some animal they think is cute and cudly and attach a human personality to it, without appreciating the minor detail that it isn't human, and it's brain isn't wired like ours. It has a different set of needs and instincts and thought processes. That's why I always want to slap people who treat their dogs like children. They aren't. For a dog to be truly happy, you need to treat it like a, well, dog.

[/soapbox]

[Capt Quirk]

DC, were you armed? It seems foolish to go into an environment like that if you aren't packing. And on a side note, do you maybe have some footage from your trip into the wild I might be able to use?

[Everts]

I call it the "Bambification" of animals. People look at some animal they think is cute and cudly and attach a human personality to it, without appreciating the minor detail that it isn't human, and it's brain isn't wired like ours. It has a different set of needs and instincts and thought processes. That's why I always want to slap people who treat their dogs like children. They aren't. For a dog to be truly happy, you need to treat it like a, well, dog.

[/soapbox]


Isn't that the reason why they made movies like the Gremmlins . To warn us viewers about cute animals

[Sad Max]

The chimp was given Alprazolam (Xanax), a medication which was reportedly not prescribed for him, and which is known to have potentially dangerous effects upon both aggressive and unstable humans as well as dogs, for whom it's in veterinary use.

This exceeds the bounds of mere cruelty and starts shading into criminality, now.

Giving a powerful wild animal a medication known to cause depression, aggression, dizziness, seizures and hallucinations is pure malicious negligence.

[ugafan]

1. Staring is a prelude to a challenge

2. Showing teeth (such as in "smiling") is a direct challenge

3. Baboons can be extremely aggressive and vicious, easily shredding and dismembering a human quicker than you can finish reading this post



i follow these same guidelines whenever i have to visit my mother-in-law.

[Matt Grunau]

i follow these same guidelines whenever i have to visit my mother-in-law.



BWHAHAHAHAHAHA



Actually, I follow those same rules whenever I visit her too. Coincidence?

[Deepfocus88]

Here is the 911 call. (http://www.newstimes.com/latestnews/ci_11727888)
Pretty disturbing. The dispatcher gets the "I really have no idea what's going on here, but send a squad car anyways" award.

[gco]

Think you are safe from chimpanzees when riding in a vehicle?---think again.
Interesting interview with a man who survived a chimp attack and saves a friend by fighting back with a tree branch. Another friend is killed by a group of about 30!!.
LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3643911&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/)
bet these guys would have done anything to get their hands on a firearm.

[gco]

Here is the 911 call. (http://www.newstimes.com/latestnews/ci_11727888)
Pretty disturbing. The dispatcher gets the "I really have no idea what's going on here, but send a squad car anyways" award.
....yeah, it only takes a couple of seconds before you feel like wringing his neck.

[Sad Max]

In all fairness my friend is being disassembled by a rampaging chimpanzee is not something 911 operators normally expect to hear, in the course of a day's work.

[Capt Quirk]

Oh, surely they have heard stranger things.

[Hawk Teflon]

Oh, surely they have heard stranger things.

I'VE called in stranger things

[Capt Quirk]

I don't doubt that at all...

[DC]

i follow these same guidelines whenever i have to visit my mother-in-law.

LOL!


DC, were you armed? It seems foolish to go into an environment like that if you aren't packing.

No, I personally wasn't armed in the camp itself. I'm sure there were weapons nearby. When outside the perimeter, we had a guide with arms. So I guess I did the best I could under the circumstances.



And on a side note, do you maybe have some footage from your trip into the wild I might be able to use?

Well, possibly. I think technically Richard Branson owns the rights to the footage. What are you looking for specifically and what would you do with it? Because I might have some nice footage of animals and the bush that probably wouldn't infringe on anything he would care about. He was a super nice guy and I doubt he would bark over you showing some footage I shot of a hyena on your website or what not.

[ESTEBEVERDE]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/16/chimp.attack/index.html

Yikes! 200lbs? In it's 20's? Older then me probably!

I feel horrible that the chimps owner had to stab it to help her friend. The story said it was like a child to the woman. I can't imagine having to kill a pet to save a friend. Horrible situation to be in.


He's 14 and yes yes yes yes yes they are extremely dangerous and violent.

They have been known to eat babies and even small children in Africa and to attack humans very often.

The ones that have been captive or habituated around humans are the most dangerous.


They are wild F'n animals for F's Sake!

[ESTEBEVERDE]

In all fairness my friend is being disassembled by a rampaging chimpanzee is not something 911 operators normally expect to hear, in the course of a day's work.


Doesn't matter.

They should have rolled police as soon as she made the call.

The 911 operator is an F'n DumbAzz!

[Sad Max]

A 911 operator is expected to know the situation before rolling anybody anywhere.

Having heard the tape and the virtual incoherence of the caller, and considering the peculiar situation being incoherently described, I think that the operator can be forgiven for not instantly putting it all together.

[commalot]

I watched some nature show once where they filmed Chimpanzees in the wild for some months. Unlike other species where one individual might attack and kill another the Chimps would form allies and enemies within the group and have it out eventually, and the loser was dead. Not just kicked out.

[Deepfocus88]

A 911 operator is expected to know the situation before rolling anybody anywhere.

Having heard the tape and the virtual incoherence of the caller, and considering the peculiar situation being incoherently described, I think that the operator can be forgiven for not instantly putting it all together.

The issue I have is with the response time. I heard the whole 15 minute call and the cops don't show up till like 12 or 13 minutes after she gets on with him. And the woman is FREAKING OUT. I would be too if a 200 lb angry chimp was on the loose.

I live a few towns over and can tell you Stamford isn't that big of a city. They should have responded quicker upon mention of "my friend is dead" and "he ripped her face off". Hopefully I'm never in a situation there that requires immediate police assistance.

That all being said, the dispatcher is pretty thick. "Tell the cops to bring guns!" "Huh what, he has a gun?"

[ESTEBEVERDE]

A 911 operator is expected to know the situation before rolling anybody anywhere.

Having heard the tape and the virtual incoherence of the caller, and considering the peculiar situation being incoherently described, I think that the operator can be forgiven for not instantly putting it all together.

Bull shit.

She called for help.

Said someone was getting killed.

Said to send a gun.

Roll em and WHILE THEY ARE EN ROUTE... then ask the rest of the details and fill the responders in.

It was only seconds but seconds count.

[ESTEBEVERDE]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/18/sandra-herold-chimp-owner_n_167855.html

[Mark Harris]

Send this fucking clown to jail and for God's sake do NOT let her near another animal as long as she lives. Too stupid to exist.

[ESTEBEVERDE]

Charla Nash lost eyes, nose and jaw in chimpanzee attack (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02/18/2009-02-18_charla_nash_lost_eyes_nose_and_jaw_in_ch.html)

[ugafan]

Send this poo pooing clown to jail and for God's sake do NOT let her near another animal as long as she lives. Too stupid to exist.

earlier she admitted giving a non-prescribed xanax (which sometimes causes agression) to the already agitated chimp 5 minutes before the attack. later on in the day she supposedly said she never gave the animal drugs. based on how the story is changing, i'm thinking she is feeling the heat and likely will face criminal charges.

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

Just for the record, if I lost my eyes, jaw and nose, just let me die. Please. Spare the seven hour surgery and use one of the cop bullets on me.

In all seriousness, I would not want to be saved. Poor poor woman. This is much more sad then previously thought.

[Capt Quirk]

Just for the record, if I lost my eyes, jaw and nose, just let me die. Please. Spare the seven hour surgery and use one of the cop bullets on me.

In all seriousness, I would not want to be saved. Poor poor woman. This is much more sad then previously thought.
Don't worry buddy, I'd have your best interest...
Doctor- He has a splinter in his finger.
Me- Noooo! Pull the plug! He wouldn't want to live like that!
Doctor- But he isn't in any danger at all, he'll be fine!
Me- Fine! I'll do it myself! (Grabs pillow)

[Richard J. Johnson]

Charla Nash lost eyes, nose and jaw in chimpanzee attack (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02/18/2009-02-18_charla_nash_lost_eyes_nose_and_jaw_in_ch.html)

that's sad. I don't know if I can beat a chimp. But that Mofo would have one hell of fight on his hands if he tried to eat my face.

[Capt Quirk]

that's sad. I don't know if I can beat a chimp. But that Mofo would have one hell of fight on his hands if he tried to eat my face.
I'll put $100 on the chimp...

[Everts]

that's sad. I don't know if I can beat a chimp. But that Mofo would have one hell of fight on his hands if he tried to eat my face.

Nobody on this earth would last a minute mano a mona or mano a chimpy !

[Batutta]

Just for the record, if I lost my eyes, jaw and nose, just let me die. Please. Spare the seven hour surgery and use one of the cop bullets on me.

But you'd still have your ears! Think of all the great Clay Aiken albums you'd be missing!

[blando3]

I'm not sure it's even legal to have a pet chimp.
Pretty stupid if you ask me...

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

This entire story is sad. :(

Should have never happened.

[ESTEBEVERDE]

that's sad. I don't know if I can beat a chimp. But that Mofo would have one hell of fight on his hands if he tried to eat my face.

No offense. But sadly I would think not.

They have nails that are extremely thick and sharp and their teeth are incredible strong and viscous.

Keep in mind their "feet" grasp and claw like hands as well.

They are also much stronger than us pound for pound.

Not really a chance...

[Capt Quirk]

So far, that's 3 to 1 odds against you Filthrich.

[ESTEBEVERDE]

There is a reason they call it "Ape Sh*t Crazy"! :thumbsup:

[Jeffrey Rice]

Personally, I would not work with chimps or other exotics... Even if a studio was paying the liabilty insurance, I would not want my name associated with such a project were a tragedy to happen.... Can you say "Vic Morrow" ?

Dogs, horses, and common barnyard animals would be fine. These already have a working relationship with humans; basically anything you can adopt on www.petfinder.com (http://www.petfinder.com) is easy enough for ppl to deal with. Felines of any kind simply creep me out.... but that is another discussion.

Jeff:beer:

[Capt Quirk]

Personally, I would not work with chimps or other exotics... Even if a studio was paying the liabilty insurance, I would not want my name associated with such a project were a tragedy to happen.... Can you say "Vic Morrow" ?
Yes... everyone know that Helicopters are unpredictable animals, and belong in the wild... :huh:

[JConnors]

What ever you do, make sure you don't have blueberries in your pocket if your arounds chimps.

[Jeffrey Rice]

LOL, Quirk :smile:

Actually since you mention it, I am a licensed Private Pilot, IFR rated, and you could not pay me enough to pilot a helicopter, they are inherently unstable and unlike fixed-wing aircraft they do not glide.

The "autorotation" procedure used when the engine dies in-flight is basically a controlled crash--you are going down right here, right now. I know lots of guys who fly heli's, and they are braver than I. I will leave those things in the wild.

Cheers,
Jeff :beer:

[Jeffrey Rice]

Sorry, Quirk, I hope I didn't sound like a know-it-all.... Didn't mean to offend. :smile:

I still have a hangar-load of Hi8 & VHS to get into Vegas. I think I will go for the Pyro box, and put the other capture thing on ebay.

Thanks much, Jeff :beer:

Ps. I heard on the radio today that a chimp has the strength of seven large men.

[ESTEBEVERDE]

Yes... everyone know that Helicopters are unpredictable animals, and belong in the wild... :huh:

Helicopters are death traps for the most part.

Only the NOTAR and a few of the Fenestron models are a bit better but the others are pure trouble waiting to happen.

[Sad Max]

Wow.

I don't remember ever seeing a thread yaw out of control as violently as this one just did.

[Capt Quirk]

It was the Vic Morrow comment that started it. He was killed in a helicopter accident, not by an animal. Wasn't that a line out of some move? "I'm not an animal! I'm a Helicopter!"