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BlakeWink
01-29-2009, 02:46 PM
Hey everyone,
This is my first post on the boards and I'm looking for some advice. I intend on buying my first set of film making equipment in the next month or two and am having a difficult time deciding how to distribute my budget. I have between 3 and 4 thousand dollars to spend. I want to purchase a camera that shoots 1080 and shoots 24p. I recently got to work with the Panasonic HVX-200A and was very impressed with it. Unfortunately it seems a bit out of my budget if I buy from a reputable source like B&H. I've done a bit of research and the 205a may be an option for me seeing as it is much cheaper but it will be at the high end of my budget still and i'm worried a bit about waranty. The P2 option isn't all that important to me because although I'd love to be able to shoot straight to memory I don't think my budget will afford the price of a P2 card very soon. I was also looking at the Sony HDR-FX7 because it really fits well into my budget leaving money left over to buy a nice shotgun mic and maybe a professional light or two. The reviews I found on the Sony are very mixed and it seems like not many people who give it good reviews use it for films. They use it more for weddings and events. I also read it doesn't shoot well in low light situations and has a compression issue when trying to edit?

I have to admit i'm a newbie when it comes to alot of the aspects of a professional camera. However i've worked on several feature films and am persueing an education in film. So i'm looking for advice on how most of you would spend a budget like this. My hope currently is to buy a nice camera (meaning a HD prosumer instead of a DV prosumer) because even if I can not manage to make this a profession it will be a hobby for a long time and i'd rather not have to buy another camera in the near future. I say this because I know alot of the advice given is that the camera is not the most important thing for making a good film. I am completely aware of this however i'd still perfer to spend my entire budget on a nice camera then save up money for sound and lighting than buy a mediocre camera to have those right away. This being said i'm looking for opinions on how you would spend the budget. Hopefully there are some choices i've overlooked. Also if there are any recommendations on prosumer shotgun mic's and Lavs I would apreciate that also.

Sorry for a somewhat rambling first post and thanks in advance for the help.

David Saraceno
01-29-2009, 04:58 PM
Buy a low mileage used HVX200 over in the marketplace.

You usually can get that and a card for about $3500.

What 205a are you looking at from where?

wgzn
01-29-2009, 05:19 PM
you can pretty easily get a second hand hvx200 for about 3.5k but likley not a 200a.
and none of the "budget HD" cameras does super well in low light. though im pretty pleased with my hpx170

i know you said it already but having a great camera and nothing else doesnt let you do much beside take pretty pictures... have you thought of a smaller camera like maybe canon hv30, xha1 or something in that vein? i think ive heard of folks slapping 35mm adapters on those and getting pretty cool results

puredrifting
01-29-2009, 08:00 PM
You can't really afford a P2 camcorder on that budget. I would suggest you look at an HMC-150 or something cheaper. Actually, when I think about it, you can't even afford an HMC-150 on that budget. What about camera support (tripod, shoulder mount, dolly, jib), carrying case, filters, matte box, storage media, add-on lenses, etc? You will make better footage with a Canon Vixia HFS10 and a good pro tripod than you will with a used P2 camcorder and a piece of junk tripod.

Remember, if you are a pro, you don't buy cameras, you buy a production system that includes camera, media, power system, tripod, case, etc. Realistically if that is your max budget, you should looking at used HDV camcorders or new consumer AVCHD camcorders. In your budget range, a suitable professional tripod would cost half of your total budget. Filters and matte box are really expensive.

I won't even go into lighting, sound and post because those take tens of thousands more.

Dan

wgzn
01-29-2009, 09:22 PM
as far as i know the 205 is a euro or asia model and wont be covered by a US warranty. its whats typically referred to as "grey-market" and its what a lot of those online dealers (those few who do actually deliver your product) hawk as a $2999 version of a $6000 camera. if you buy from them you may or may not ever even take delivery of the camera you thought you purchased. BAD NEWS, STAY AWAY. think youre gonna save 50% on a brand new camera? you wont. and you very well may lose the money you have and end up with nothing.