Support For 24pA?

[Doctor_Drone]

Well, it looks like they have totally ripped off Vegas, but does Pro have native support for the DVX?

[aaronkid]

bahh adobe sucks.

[Guest]

They didn't mention it...So, I guess the ans is no. :-/

[aaronkid]

Khan is right. if it did support it adobe probally would of made a big deal over it.

[booggerg]

why no one here likes adobe? Its really not ripping off Veags, none of the functionalities in Veags by themselves on Veags is really breakthrough. It's expected newer NLEs would include more of the features we would want to use. Adobe has consistently had great 3rd party support. If Premier Pro turns out to be a robust NLE, and useful 3rd party hardware comes along for it, I would switch to it in a blink! It'll become the FCP for windows.

[betsy]

Yes, if its better then vegas and doesnt crash then it would be silly not to switch. Unless the learning curve is steep, but it appears to be pretty similar to Vegas.

[Guest]

Adobe sucks? Yeah that Photoshop - what a hunk of shareware. Oh and Illustrator - total crap. Oh and After Effects, come on, does anybody even use that thing!?!

How do they stay in business?


I saw a demo Tuesday of the entire new Adobe line and it looks stunning - they just may have something with Premiere Pro too. Not that I'm gonna be uninstalling Vegas but it does finally look "Pro".

[Zoomforce]

personally, I can't stand photoshop. After affects is pretty sweet though.

[booggerg]

What do you substitute Photoshop with?

[Zoomforce]

Actually I use a discontinued product from microsoft called Photodraw 2000.. it was their little attempt at the pro world. Solid product and it is compatible with photoshop plugins... actually has better features than photoshop, although the smudge brush in photodraw isnt as good as the heal brush.
I can open up and finish a project faster then it takes photoshop to even load.

[scottchapin]

Adobe sales says that they cannot officially say that Premiere Pro wil support 24pA, but insinuated that it will.

[Zoomforce]

yes that is the answer i got to... kinda a run around answer.

[scottchapin]

yes that is the answer i got to... kinda a run around answer.

Kinda sorta except that he was adamant that it would and that he heard so in a sales/training meeting. When I told him that the rumors on the net were to the contrary, he put me on hold. When he came back , he said it was unofficial, as though he had let the cat out of the bag.

Maybe they're scrambling now to write some code! ;D

[Zoomforce]

ha ha. I swear to god Adobe has gone nuts. I went to the After effects "Release party" in Vancouver a while back and I havn't been with so many stupid people in one room in my life. Every 5 minutes the presenter would get confused and an audience member would hafta walk them through it.

*I don't have a problem with stupid people, but when your stupid but act like you are god I will slap you on the side of the head. It was 5 hours long, and unlike every other company's events they never even fed us. Good thing sony was present showing some gizmos or i woulda lost it.

I think as soon as someone comes out with something better than Photoshop and stupid Acrobat, *Adobe is in trouble. mmmphhh. sorry about venting :)

[scottchapin]

The problem is that it is like that everywhere. Even Sony's phone support sucks. It's all I can do to say keep from saying "JEEEZ I can read the friggen manual, can you answer the question not answered in the manual?"

[Zoomforce]

almost all tech support is driven off a basic troubleshooting program. 99x out of 100 if the company is big, the person you are talking too on the 1800 number have no idea what the product you have even looks like.

That is why I love small companies, and that is also why I love Panasonic Broadcast.

[booggerg]

I dont understand why all the animosity towards Adobe. I feel that Adobe makes some of the best graphics-oriented programs out there! Photoshop IMHO can not be beat as far as workflow, functionality, and robustness. AFX is no brainer, their upcoming DVD authoring and audio app also looks promising. Live Motion is great for people who wants to do Flash animation but w/o need to scripting. PDF is indispensable, especially nowadays on college campuses. It truely could become to newest document exchange format(granted if they regularly improve it). I say Horray for Premier Pro, hopefully it will not disapoint. I can't say anything regarding Adobe's tech support since I've never had any trouble with any of their apps. I mean, isn't it reasonable to accept some support inadequacies if they make wonderful programs?

Just my $0.02

[Zoomforce]

yes I am sure 99% of the world will agree with you booggerg, but I for one stopped using Photoshop along time ago because it's slow as hell. *I Use Flash on a regular basis (dont think Live Motion even comes close IMHO) PDF I just hate because its hard to read onscreen, but is the best if you print it out. Your right about AFX, as for tech support I just had to help a collegue today out getting his photoshop back from death. I am surprised you have never had any problems with it. Premier used to crash on me on *a daily basis, i started to call it Adobe Prayer instead.

So much for getting them as a sponsor :o

[scottchapin]

I'm alright with Adobe, though I think their pricing on PS boarders on the ludicrous. I got Premiere with my capture card and have upgraded since, so price has not been an issue there. It hasn't been so crash-o-matic for me, but then I keep my editing fairly simple. The most demanding thing I do is 4 way PnP.

I will get Pro, more than likely, if it supports 24pA. Hopefully it will be stable.

[booggerg]

I don't use Premier hehe so I kinda took that out of my equation for the robustness. Premier 5.0 crashed on me plenty so i don't even consider it as a serious NLE. But PDF readability really depends on the source document they are generated from. I find a lot of professors generate PDFs from PostScript documents and indeed those are terrible to read online, but if the source being Word or HTML etc.. it is crisp and an exact copy of the original.

[scottchapin]

That's alright booggerg. Premiere users have a love-hate relationship with it. Personally, I feel that the crashes are due to poor memory mangement. PS goes poof when I open too many files, and I'll bet that similar problems manifest themselves in Premiere. Pro is supposed to be a total re-write. We'll, or should I say I'll see.

[Viewcam]

cha cha premier sucks donkey. all it took was one night of a long edit without save (my fault) and a crash for me to toss it out the window.

[scottchapin]

For all you Premiere haters, It appears to be almost certain that Pro will support 24pA.

http://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/overview2.html

Way at the bottom, it state that AE 6.0 will support it, so......

Now, if memory management is solved, I'll be happy. I cannot afford not to try it, as it will just be an upgrade for me.

[Grover]

On the Adobe user to user forum, someone on the design team showed up and said they WOULD support 24pA, just not immediately upon release; may take a little while (which won't help me, as Sundance deadline is Sept 12th!)

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