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Mark Harris
12-28-2008, 03:20 PM
What could possibly go wrong? :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/3981697/Scientists-plan-to-ignite-tiny-man-made-star.html

I guess is something does go wrong, we can all hope the black hole created by the LHC will eat the star up!

ilauzirika
12-28-2008, 04:44 PM
......boom......

or a limitless power source......


your choice....

brianluce
12-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Wow, a perpetual wheel. The key here is it yields 10x the energy used to create the fusion. It'd be nice to tell OPEC to go jump in a lake because "We got this."

Loki
12-28-2008, 07:15 PM
that is quite amazing.

how far we've come in such a short time.. astounding..

robertwerden
12-28-2008, 07:16 PM
I worked in the Nuclear weapons field and the ability to control this type of reaction is possible. I'll be excited if they don't blow them selves up.

I dont think they have anything to worry about though. It is a common misconception that thermo nuclear detonations have to be large. They can be microscopic. It takes quite a bit of material to create a weapon, so the amount of boom they could possibly get is no bigger that a conventional bomb you might see used in combat in Iraq.

David Jimerson
12-28-2008, 07:20 PM
Besides, a black hole's gravity is no stronger than that of whatever collapsed to make the black hole. It's a function of mass, not density . . .

ChipG
12-28-2008, 07:25 PM
I read somewhere that the smallest black hole ever found is only 9 feet in diameter.

Edit: just looked it up, it says it is 15 miles in diameter, don't know what I was thinking.

Mark Harris
12-28-2008, 07:37 PM
Besides, a black hole's gravity is no stronger than that of whatever collapsed to make the black hole. It's a function of mass, not density . . .


Relevance?

ChipG
12-28-2008, 07:45 PM
The smallest star ever found is about the size of Jupiter.

http://www.physorg.com/news3266.html

brianluce
12-28-2008, 07:47 PM
Besides, a black hole's gravity is no stronger than that of whatever collapsed to make the black hole. It's a function of mass, not density . . .

Yeah but imagine of one of those mini black holes fell on your leg? It'd hurt like a mother.

David Jimerson
12-28-2008, 07:58 PM
Relevance?

Just following the flow.

ZFarms Productions
12-28-2008, 08:02 PM
did you say flow?

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/9525/1230519706.jpg



:)

MattinSTL
12-28-2008, 08:40 PM
Um... Doc Oc anyone?

ugafan
12-28-2008, 09:22 PM
"Its goal is to generate temperatures of more than 100 million degrees Celsius and pressures billions of times higher than those found anywhere else on earth"

well that sounds safe.

Bryan
12-28-2008, 09:24 PM
Um... Doc Oc anyone?

You beat me to it. Yeah I'm pretty sure I saw this in Spider-Man 2 peoples! And there's no real Spider-Man to save us!

brianluce
12-28-2008, 11:41 PM
"Its goal is to generate temperatures of more than 100 million degrees Celsius and pressures billions of times higher than those found anywhere else on earth"

well that sounds safe.

Yeah, I'd hate to spill some of that junk on my leg, I think it would really hurt. Sounds worse than that Black Hole stuff Jimerson was talking about.

Larry Rutledge
12-29-2008, 10:14 AM
My concern is that this is occurring in Livermore, CA, about 15 minutes down the highway from my office :shocked:

Well if I suddenly stop coming around, you'll know the star experiment was a failure http://www.day7studios.com/nrestudios_archive/images/smilies/emote_head_explode.gif

Mark Harris
12-29-2008, 10:47 AM
My concern is that this is occurring in Livermore, CA, about 15 minutes down the highway from my office :shocked:

Well if I suddenly stop coming around, you'll know the star experiment was a failure http://www.day7studios.com/nrestudios_archive/images/smilies/emote_head_explode.gif

Or if you show up one day with a REALLY good tan, we know it was a success!

Doc Bernard
12-29-2008, 11:27 AM
Did I hear someone call my name? Here's a top secret picture of the lab I took after I designed the Doc Bernard Quantum Singulatory Fluxination Harmonic Capacitor for them. It would have never worked without it. They thought a regular flux capacitor would work, everyone knows regular flux capacitors are only for time travel.

http://www.wetcircuit.com/wp-content/myfotos/theblackhole/BlackHole00.jpg

And here's some of the guys working on it:http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/Image/black-hole-movie.jpg

Black holes are tricky buggers, gotta use robots as much as possible.

Nektonic
12-29-2008, 02:12 PM
Cool. Nuclear fusion would be great to have, but at the same time, if this does work like they think it does and once the tech is ready I wonder what the current energy companies and oil companies will do to make sure this doesn't actually become the dominant power source on the planet. Also, couldn't the companies that eventually control this technology and the infrastructure to deliver it to all of us charge ridiculous rates for the service if they can eventually produce limitless energy?

And is it just me or does it look like there is a giant pencil pointing right at the guy on the raised crane platform in the article's picture?

Ryan Patrick O'Hara
12-29-2008, 03:36 PM
I just thought to myself... don't stars turn INTO black holes when they die? I know this takes millions of years but do MINI stars many many times smaller last as long?

Something to think about, as I'm sure they have already.

David Jimerson
12-29-2008, 03:55 PM
There are many ways for a star to die, including just fizzling out.

Doc Bernard
12-29-2008, 10:08 PM
Jeez, no sense of humor. You guys are way too serious.:laugh:

Ryan, it will just be a small black hole. Say goodbye to Frisco and the Bay Area, but we'll be safe down here.

KyleProhaska
12-30-2008, 11:33 AM
Lets hope no Spiderman 2 scenes are re-created ;) (EDIT: Darnit I was too late)

Regardless this is very cool.

Dick Campbell
12-30-2008, 04:47 PM
black holes got nothing compared to a woman going through menopuase.:laugh: