Canon 5D Mark II Kit lens: EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM Lens

[Emanuel]

[Interesting Reviews:]

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/145/cat/11

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-24-105mm-f-4-L-IS-USM-Lens-Review.aspx

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=355

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/28-105.shtml


[yet comparing with the sister 24-70 f/2.8:]

http://photo.net/wedding-photography-forum/00JGat

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/716215/1


[Pros:]

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=329170#post329170

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1161613

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1161613_vUmAB/1/54222616_Nvvsz/Large

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/photos/54222598-L.jpg"

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/photos/54222579-M.jpg

[Emanuel]

Clip shot with:

http://www.vimeo.com/2423314

http://www.mophojo.com/2008/12/first-take-on-the-canon-5d-mark-ii-2/

[joe 1008]

That video turned me uncertain about my anterior position. I wanted to get a f/2,8 zoom, maybe the Canon, maybe the Sigma. But now I see there is still very shallow DOF at f/4 with a full frame sensor, and with almost noiseless ISO at 6400 it is suitable in low light, too.

What me baffeled was the steadyness of the handheld shots. I was convinced, that the 5D would always need a tripode - I always plan to shoot on a tripode and end up with many handheld shots. So the sabilizer might be worth the tradeoff of 1 f-stop. The perfect combination might be with a Fig Rig?

I'll have to reconsider some things, I'll go up into the mountanis and meditate...:beer:

[Emanuel]

Do not forget FF35 is circa twice S35. And the RED zooms are f/2.8...

This FF35 24-105mm would match a RED (ONE) 15-65 in terms of FOV.

[Emanuel]

The perfect combination might be with a Fig Rig?

Here's some useful info, quite appropriate for handheld shooting, actually. What else as affordable as this for DSLR form factor?

Promising user opinions:

http://www.dvinfo.net//conf/showthread.php?t=59586

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/381894-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_595B_595B_Fig_Rig_Camera.html#revi ews

[Emanuel]

Some interesting clip (courtesy by PaulM) shot with the lens -- it is possible to check its features and potential out.

Here's the link:

http://www.vimeo.com/2568049

Discussion here:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=156549


EDIT -- I should have written: «some interesting example (courtesy by PaulM, shot with the lens) under the POV of the Fig Rig need -- it is possible to check its features and figure the potential out».

[joe 1008]

Honestly, that last clip was an horrible example, at least for me. Handshake, zoom, wild panning and rolling shutter. The best handheld example I've seen - and I would work in a similar way - was the doc about the little boxer. The 5D doesn't permit fast movements. Period. The Fig Rig probably would reduce very much the horizontal shake of the 5D which is due to it's form factor: You have to grab it with both hands, very close to the axxis/lens. That horizontal shake always makes me sea sick when I see it.

[Emanuel]

Yes, my bad. I'm used to type in a hurry at times. The thoughts stay out then. :)

[Thebes]

...
But now I see there is still very shallow DOF at f/4 with a full frame sensor, and with almost noiseless ISO at 6400 it is suitable in low light, too.

What me baffeled was the steadyness of the handheld shots. I was convinced, that the 5D would always need a tripode

...

Remember that your exposure latitude will drop at higher ISOs. Still, f/4 and f/5.6 should be possible without issue in anything approaching sane lighting. I sometimes shoot that stopped down indoors with my D90, and we know that the Canon is even better for low light.

Handheld... The thing here is that you want to do what you can to stabilize the camera. A simple shoulder strap and good stance will help a lot... use your strap and arms to for a rigid unit under tension. Most camera shake is due to tilting, panning, and rolling rather than the comparatively small up-down and side to side movements. Anything that keeps those under control will let you shoot decent handheld footage- again I do this with my D90 and that camera also has significantly worse rolling shutter issues vs 5D2. Btw, I find a shoulder mount to be great, though I've never tried a fig rig.

[joe 1008]

I'm too tall (1.94m) for a shoulder mount. I even shoot with 2/3" cams clunged to my waist to get the right perspective of people's faces. So something like a Fig Rig would be perfect for me. The shoulder strap is an interesting idea, maybe a combination of a rig and a strap would be nice...