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Elton
12-13-2008, 11:58 AM
So far, I would have to say that it's intriguing, but definitely has plenty of issues. (as a video cam)

Fun camera with a nifty video mode that offers creamy DOF...just keep the camera stabilized with any sort of focal length. I was surprised to find that the LCD was quite focusable and the image at high ISO was quite acceptable.

Here's a grab from a clip of my daughter having a little ice cream. I'm pretty sure the ISO was at least 3200. Very punchy, clean image in less than ideal available light.

Shot with a Nikon 85mm (EOS to Nikon adapter) at F 1.4

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10380/1229212448.jpg

More later, but dang, I like this camera already.

Andrew Brinkhaus
12-13-2008, 12:50 PM
where's the grab?

Park Edwards
12-13-2008, 01:51 PM
your grabs aren't working

Kegan
12-13-2008, 01:58 PM
Works perfectly fine for me, on Safari.

I see it in both posts and a fantastic grab it is!

Kegan

Emanuel
12-13-2008, 02:16 PM
«Is the picture not showing in the thread I just posted?»

Not yet. Firefox, Opera, Explorer. None. Maybe just Safari at Apple side. PC? (I am sorry :-) It doesn't seem so.

Elton
12-13-2008, 02:29 PM
That's really strange. All I did was upload the jpeg to the member upload center and post the image with the "insert image" icon by pasting in the url.

Weird. I'll see if I can find an alternative

Emanuel
12-13-2008, 02:40 PM
Barlow,

Try imageshack.us...

E. :-)

Park Edwards
12-13-2008, 02:51 PM
have safari on mac, crashed it everytime i went into this thread.
opened up explorer and d/led images and says it's currupted

Emanuel
12-13-2008, 04:39 PM
Now, yes. It's here. It doesn't seem any other but 35mm. Another different world.

GregJ
12-13-2008, 05:59 PM
Shot with a Nikon 85mm (EOS to Nikon adapter) at F 1.4



Elton,

Looks great. Do you recommend any particular EOS to Nikon adapter? There's a huge price range, from $30 - $275 our there. Also, I've heard a lot of people recommending Nikon lenses for shooting video on the Mark II. Mind if I ask your your opinion?

Lee Wilson
12-13-2008, 06:10 PM
Elton,

Looks great. Do you recommend any particular EOS to Nikon adapter? There's a huge price range, from $30 - $275 our there. Also, I've heard a lot of people recommending Nikon lenses for shooting video on the Mark II. Mind if I ask your your opinion?


I bought a Novoflex - it is a very very well made adaptor, very solid, goes on and off my lenses very easily.

I avoided the one's with the focus confirmation chip as this chip is just epoxied to the metal and I have heard stories of the chip flaking off and getting inside the camera. My own experience with sticking anything to metal with epoxy glue is that ultimately it is temporary.

I though critical focus would be a problem with purely manual lenses and lacking focus confirmation indicator, but the zoom in focus assist zoom is fantastic, makes super sharp focusing incredibly easy with a purely manual lens.

Some of the cheaper adaptors are too thin or too thick - by tiny amounts - but this is enough so that you can focus past infinity (no a problem for everyone). Also if you get a cheap model off ebay, check it carefully when you get it for any tiny slivers of metal from the machining process.

Elton
12-13-2008, 07:54 PM
Greg,

Definitely go with manual aperture Nikon lenses if you can. It's a sweet combo (for 5D2 video) and it's really funny that Canon would open a door for a competitor this way. Go figure.

Lee, I agree with everything you said.

Here's another grab from some other video I shot last night. While driving home, I pulled the car over and shot my kids in front of a christmas light display. They're lit by a small Sony LED camera light that I had with me. Same Nikon 85mm, F 1.4

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10380/1229225399.jpg

Lee Wilson
12-13-2008, 09:15 PM
Kids, don't you just love 'em !!! :)

. . . even when they bite your nose and try to tear a piece off as they practice with their new teeth.

I need to get myself an f1.4 (and a nose protector).

Elton
12-13-2008, 09:25 PM
Hahaha, exactly.

I really love that lens.

More grabs:

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10380/1229232775.jpg
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10380/1229233027.jpg

Emanuel
12-13-2008, 10:57 PM
Terrific grabs. They seem stills. Did you already play with those control aperture tests there?

taubkin
12-14-2008, 06:44 AM
Wow. Low light is just another story with this baby.

Elton
12-14-2008, 08:14 AM
Terrific grabs. They seem stills. Did you already play with those control aperture tests there?

Going to try those tests later, but honestly, I'm more inclined to use manual Nikon lenses as we have some really good ones and I don't want to fiddle with a bunch of menu diving/button pushing to try and control the aperture.

Btw, they really are grabs from video, and I would post some video, but I was handheld with an 85mm with no stabilizer. ; ) Got the wobbles when I wasn't being super careful. It's not that it was unbearable skew and all, but basically, this camera needs to be on sticks or steadicam if shooting with longer focal lengths.


Wow. Low light is just another story with this baby.No joke...that is easily the most impressive thing about the camera. High ISO basically isn't an issue in video mode. Love it.

GregJ
12-14-2008, 12:37 PM
Great pix, Elton. And they're grabs. Wow.

And thanks for the info. I'm leaning further toward getting the Mark II.

Park Edwards
12-14-2008, 01:07 PM
you should probably post some video so people do see the how it handles with hand held.

Lee Wilson
12-14-2008, 01:15 PM
you should probably post some video so people do see the how it handles with hand held.

With manual (non-IS Nikon lenses) it looks like a HV20/30 with the stabilizer turned off.

Careful hand held stuff looks nice, but unless you stick a Canon IS lens on the front I think you need to be on a Steadicam (a Merlin would be just right) - a tripod - or have a gyro strapped to the bottom if you want to bounce around with this camera.

I have a Merlin, but might grab a small general all purpose Canon zoom with IS for handheld (?)

BMFM FILMS
12-14-2008, 02:05 PM
that kicks the living shits out of the d90.

Park Edwards
12-14-2008, 05:32 PM
this thins is 3x's more than the d90, why wouldn't it?

BMFM FILMS
12-14-2008, 05:33 PM
Yeah but I just had to get it out there. 5d is too good.

Buck Forester
12-14-2008, 05:52 PM
I'm gonna get one of these suckers. I already have the 5D, this will be a nice upgrade for stills and hey, wonderfully lookin 1920x1080 video to boot.

Elton
12-14-2008, 11:16 PM
Went up to Park City this evening and filmed some test shots with a couple I know.

It was really cold up there but the camera performed great. I shot with 2 LED lights (daylight balanced) outside a bar with a Christmas tree out front. There was a little bit of mixed light from the sodium vapor lights on the walkway in front of the Marriott.

Nikon 85mm again, F 1.4. :)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10380/1229324113.jpg
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10380/1229324635.jpg

Lee Wilson
12-15-2008, 11:56 AM
Nikon 85mm again, F 1.4. :)

Do you remember what your lenses was opened up to (I am guessing all the way to 1.4) ??

Elton
12-15-2008, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I was going for that look wide open. I'm happy with how sharp it is.

That clip was shot basically auto, and I think you can see a spot where it probably did its shutter/iso adjustment.

More time and I will tame the beast as best as I can. :)

Lee Wilson
12-15-2008, 12:39 PM
Impressive stuff, I am also surprised at (real film makers might not want to read this next bit) . . . at how good the image comes out when you are in the 'auto-everything' setting.

Park Edwards
12-15-2008, 01:05 PM
man, too bad D90, too bad...

Elton
12-15-2008, 04:19 PM
...I am also surprised at (real film makers might not want to read this next bit) . . . at how good the image comes out when you are in the 'auto-everything' setting.

Exactly--it's surprising how good the video is without doing any fiddling at all.

taubkin
12-15-2008, 05:01 PM
So, Lee, are you ready to give a comment on the D90 vs. 5DMkII, yet? :D

alexandroff
12-27-2008, 01:41 AM
i hope soon there will be a way (whichever way we arrive there) for it to shoot 24p. when it happens - it's kinda over for d90.

great thing about this camera is that it shows the actual iso/shutter numbers
and aperture is fully controlled with manual nikon lenses.

here are some good tips to get the needed shutter:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/canon-eos-5d-mk-ii-hd/138905-total-control-over-shutter-speed-1-40-1-8000-iso-workaround.html

--
on another note:
i wonder if this adapter will do as good as pricey Novoflex
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15478 ?