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mrbrycel
12-03-2008, 11:30 PM
I never understood how the term megapixel was used. I always see it on digital still cameras, but I never know what the actual ___x___ pixel resolution of say a 10 megapixel camera's photo is.

Also, are there digital still cameras yet that have passed 35mm film in quality? Or will that never happen? Because can't film be scanned to whatever resolution you want?

Barry_Green
12-04-2008, 09:28 AM
According to Kodak, as far as strictly resolution goes, 35mm movie film is about equivalent to 12 megapixels. That would put 35mm still film at around 24 megapixels. Film is constantly being improved, as is digital.

A "megapixel" means a million pixels on the chip, but it doesn't imply the ratio. So a 10-megapixel chip, in a square configuration, would be about 3300 x 3300. If it's in a 3:2 ratio, it might be something like 3600 x 2700.

Capt Quirk
12-04-2008, 09:34 AM
Just one, but it is a really big one, which is why they call it a mega pixel... ;)

Richard J. Johnson
12-04-2008, 09:35 AM
but how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

Barry_Green
12-04-2008, 09:37 AM
Who says it can't?

David Jimerson
12-04-2008, 09:51 AM
What's a cubit?

Capt Quirk
12-04-2008, 10:00 AM
What's a cubit?
Someone visiting Cuba? Or are you referring to the chubby Cherub that shoots the bow and arrow?

AJ Brooks
12-04-2008, 11:26 AM
Cubit is the length from the tip of the middle finger to the point of the elbow on a hebrew male, this is the type of sensor the new Scarlett cameras will have, something like 6 cubitpixel chips.

ChipG
12-04-2008, 11:49 AM
I read an article on the web about a gigapixel still camera the government uses. It's probably the one that can read a license plate from outerspace.

BobDiaz
12-04-2008, 11:52 AM
There's an interesting rough rule of thumb for still images that are printed...

An image looks sharp if the the number of pixels per inch is 250 or higher.


Assuming you had a 4" by 6" print:
4" x 250 = 1,000 and 6" x 250 = 1,500: Thus 1,000 x 1,500 = 1,500,000 or 1.5 MP (Mega pixels)
So a 2MP camera will produce very nice 4" x 6" prints...


Assume 5" by 7" print:
5" x 250 = 1250 and 7" x 250 = 1,750: Thus, 1250 x 1750 = 2,187,500 or 2.2 MP
A 2MP camera falls just a bit short, but a 3MP camera will work nicely.


Assume 8" x 10" print:
8" x 250 = 2,000 and 10" x 250 = 2,500: Thus, 2,000 x 2,500 = 5,000,000 or 5 MP
A 4MP camera falls a bit short, but a 5MP camera works very nicely.


Assume 11" x 14" print:
11" x 250 = 2,750 and 14" x 250 = 3,500: Thus, 2,750 x 3,500 = 9,625,000 or 9.6MP
A 9 MP camera might be a bit short of the mark, but is likely to be close enough.


One big issue is that as we move to the larger print sizes, the lenses of the low cost cameras might not fully resolve all the pixels. That is the image sensor has all the pixels, BUT the lens can NOT show all the detail.

If you must shoot big prints, go for the larger image sensors and better lenses; go for the Digital SLRs.


Bob Diaz

Tom Marshall
12-04-2008, 12:44 PM
What's a cubit?

A Spanish version of QBert, a popular 80's video game.

peggylee
12-04-2008, 01:08 PM
I wish I had this advice before I bought my current camera. Live and learn I suppose :)

Drew Ott
12-04-2008, 01:45 PM
So... about how many megapixels is this camera equivalent to?

http://www.polaroid.com/studio/20x24/

armisiano
12-04-2008, 04:30 PM
So... about how many megapixels is this camera equivalent to?

http://www.polaroid.com/studio/20x24/


I'm a big fan of Timothy Greenfields Sanders who shoots with that camera.

At 50cm by 60cm, suggesting it's quality per centimeter is the same as 35mm still film (which it's probably not because it needn't be) roughly the equivalent of 8,500 megapixels.

Macaholic262
12-04-2008, 10:29 PM
What's a cubit?

odd, i just came back from a hebrew final..that was on it hahaha

BobDiaz
12-05-2008, 09:48 AM
So... about how many megapixels is this camera equivalent to?

http://www.polaroid.com/studio/20x24/

Imagine a camera that stands 5-feet (150 cm) high and weighs 235 pounds (106 kg). Big, bulky and beautiful! At least that's what people say about it, especially after seeing the gorgeous, superbly detailed, color and black-and-white 20x24-inch (50x60 cm) prints it produces.


Let's see, 6,000 h x 4,000 v = 24,000,000 or 24 MP

Given that 35mm film is 36mm x 24 mm

6,000 / 36mm = 167 pixels per mm
4,000 / 24mm = 167 pixels per mm

50 cm = 500mm
60 cm = 600mm

600mm x 167 pixels per mm = 100,200 pixels
500mm x 167 pixels per mm = 83,500 pixels

100,200 x 83,500 = 8,366,700,000 pixels or 8.4 GP


Bob Diaz

armisiano
12-05-2008, 12:42 PM
At 50cm by 60cm, suggesting it's quality per centimeter is the same as 35mm still film (which it's probably not because it needn't be) roughly the equivalent of 8,500 megapixels.

Let's see...

100,200 x 83,500 = 8,366,700,000 pixels or 8.4 GP

Dangit Bob, proving I was off by .1 GP, DARN MY QUICK MENTAL MATH!!! :)

Anhar Miah
12-06-2008, 06:27 AM
Those calculations are correct *IF* your assuming square pixels, which is not always the case...

Anhar

mrbrycel
12-06-2008, 08:29 AM
According to Kodak, as far as strictly resolution goes, 35mm movie film is about equivalent to 12 megapixels. That would put 35mm still film at around 24 megapixels. Film is constantly being improved, as is digital.

A "megapixel" means a million pixels on the chip, but it doesn't imply the ratio. So a 10-megapixel chip, in a square configuration, would be about 3300 x 3300. If it's in a 3:2 ratio, it might be something like 3600 x 2700.

Barry, forgive me being extremely clueless, but a 35mm movie frame is actually smaller than a 35mm still frame? I didn't even know that. A 35mm still frame is 35mm wide right? What are the dimensions of a 35mm movie frame?

Barry_Green
12-06-2008, 04:08 PM
Yes, a 35mm movie frame is half the size of a 35mm still frame. The film is the same (35mm from edge to edge) but in movies the film runs vertically, so the frame is as wide as the sprocket holes (max. of about 24mm x 18mm). In still photography the film runs horizontally, so the space between the sprocket holes is used for the height, so you get a frame of 36mm x 24mm. Twice the size of the 18x24mm of movie film.

Drew Ott
12-06-2008, 04:11 PM
I wonder when digital will hit 8.4GP. Insane.

mrbrycel
12-07-2008, 12:09 AM
Barry, thanks for the information about the size difference. I didn't even know about that.

So the 5D Mark II's, which is I think 21 megapixels, is still not equivalent to a 35mm still frame?