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savingthecity
11-26-2008, 11:15 AM
Or use it as a passthrough for previews? I'm used to being able to do that with a firewire camera, but can't figure it out on this one. Was hoping to use its component output for Beta SP transfer to avoid buying a Kona/Blackmagic card.

This might not be possible though..

Barry_Green
11-26-2008, 11:21 AM
No, no AVCHD camera has that capability to do previews, etc.

You could author the footage as AVCHD-compliant and use something like the writer program to export that footage back out to a card, and then play that from the camera and export to the beta sp deck, but frankly you'd probably be way better off just getting a BlackMagic Intensity Pro card or something like that.

savingthecity
11-26-2008, 11:24 AM
Can I do that with FCP? It will work for my current project, but I'm sure we'll get a blackmagic in the near future.

David Saraceno
11-30-2008, 11:42 AM
Can you what with FCP?

It won't write back to the card, and I don't know of any writer on either platform that will take a movie file and create the structure that mimics the SDHC card with the AVCHD hierarchy.

davideo.net
12-06-2008, 03:21 PM
You could author the footage as AVCHD-compliant and use something like the writer program to export that footage back out to a card, and then play that from the camera.

Has anybody ever done this? It would be great if we could do that. I'm confused by the multi-level subdirectories of the raw footage, so I'm wondering how I would copy an edit back to an SD card for camcorder playback...

kurtmo
12-06-2008, 03:46 PM
The trick is to create a "high profile" AVCHD file in the correct container (mts or mt2s). I've created AVCHD files using x264, but they are mp4 files. I've created AVC mts files, but only main profile. Not sure if they play on the camera, but the bitrate and the quality will be less than straight of the camera.

mcsmooth
12-06-2008, 07:44 PM
Has anybody ever done this? It would be great if we could do that. I'm confused by the multi-level subdirectories of the raw footage, so I'm wondering how I would copy an edit back to an SD card for camcorder playback...

A good place to start is exporting to blu-ray (matching the specs the camera uses) because it will also create the CLP and MPL files the camera will be looking for. You will then have to rename files/folders and change the directory structure to match AVCHD. It would be nice to see programs start doing this for you since a lot of people want to be able to use their cam for playback.

Justyn
12-07-2008, 05:55 PM
I had thought about this and to be able to play back via HDMI. I've done the write back to the HVX.. that was easy and great for when i needed to playback to a projector... Would be great to figure this out..

kurtmo
12-08-2008, 05:35 AM
The Pannasonic AVCCAM viewer looks like it will write data back to an SD card. I haven't tried it, but it should work.

shrigg
12-08-2008, 11:35 AM
A good place to start is exporting to blu-ray (matching the specs the camera uses) because it will also create the CLP and MPL files the camera will be looking for. You will then have to rename files/folders and change the directory structure to match AVCHD. It would be nice to see programs start doing this for you since a lot of people want to be able to use their cam for playback.

I have tried and tried this using Toast 9's BDMV Folder and UDF functions and still no Blu-Ray playback. I even went through the tedious process of renaming all files for Blu-Ray compliance as follows (from the elurauser article (http://elurauser.com/articles/avchd_to_bluray.jsp))

http://elurauser.com/articles/avchd_bluray.jpg

My Panasonic DMP-BD35 Blu-Ray player says "UNSUPPORTED DISC" every time :(

David Saraceno
12-08-2008, 11:49 AM
Darren:

Thanks for the e mail.

I use the AVCCAM viewer in Windows XP using VMWare.

Take the clips from a mounted SDHC card and use the copy to PC/Computer to a folder in Windows.

Copy that back to my make.

Drop into another folder and call it BLANK_DISC.

Then I add the CERTIFICATE FOLDER AND BACKUP FOLDER, which are empty to the root level, same as the BDMV folder.

Into the BDMV Folder, I add empty folders called AUXDATA, BDJO and JAR.

All the renaming has been done.

Open Toast 9, and elect the BDMV choice.

Drag that folder in and then drag the CERTIFCATE folder in.

Burn to DVD, not blu ray.

Wa La!!!

Plays on a Sony 350 and the BDP-BX1 , I believe, which is Costco's version. Haven't tested it on anything else.
Happy to make this a stickie if a moderator wants it.

Justyn
12-12-2008, 10:55 AM
David.. I think that would be great and maybe have a flow diagram, breakdown..


How does it all look?