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Thomas Lew
11-10-2008, 07:39 PM
Thanks for the criticism. Taken the video down to re-edit and improve upon.

anthony jackson
11-10-2008, 08:04 PM
looks good to me.

dr jones
11-12-2008, 08:16 PM
it looks nice. good sound too. what mic did you use?

Thomas Lew
11-12-2008, 08:21 PM
some seinheiser (spelled wrong) shotgun mic for the dialogue and then a 50 dollar audio techniqa (spelled wrong) for background

MikeGunter
11-13-2008, 10:01 AM
Hey Thomas,

Looks good. Is that a custom scene setting on the 150?

Is this for a class?

Thomas Lew
11-13-2008, 11:20 AM
Hey Thomas,

Looks good. Is that a custom scene setting on the 150?

Is this for a class?

Thanks Mike. It's the regular scene setting. My friend doing the lighting set everything up very well and I did color correction to give it that looks. It's not for a class.. just me making films =p

Ed Kishel
11-13-2008, 11:33 AM
looks really good, nice and sharp. My only concern is the window behind the professor- a little blown out. You could lower the exposure and add more light for the actor, but an easier thing to do in the future is to get some cheap auto tint and tape it to the outside of the glass.

http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductList.aspx?CategoryCode=3180

You can find this stuff pretty cheap in any auto supply store. Cut it to whatever shape you need and gaffers tape it to the glass. The stuff that clings is even easier as it needs no tape (but you need to clean the glass). Dont use limo as it may be too dark, something in the middle- like 35%

This is much cheaper than ND gels.

Thomas Lew
11-13-2008, 11:45 AM
looks really good, nice and sharp. My only concern is the window behind the professor- a little blown out. You could lower the exposure and add more light for the actor, but an easier thing to do in the future is to get some cheap auto tint and tape it to the outside of the glass.

http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductList.aspx?CategoryCode=3180

You can find this stuff pretty cheap in any auto supply store. Cut it to whatever shape you need and gaffers tape it to the glass. The stuff that clings is even easier as it needs no tape (but you need to clean the glass). Dont use limo as it may be too dark, something in the middle- like 35%

This is much cheaper than ND gels.

the window wasn't normally blown out that much.. u could actualy see outside but the thing was it was super super saturated for some reason... all weird highlights of colors so I figuerd the best way was to just blow the window out =\

Noel Evans
11-13-2008, 12:14 PM
Thomas, using something to bring the light down in the window is one thing, but simply you could have also pulled him away from the window a bit and changed camera angle to lose most of it.

Also I thought there were too many cuts that didnt really serve much of a purpose. Classroom scenes - IMO seem more natural with one color of light. So I def. would CTB those tungsten lights your using to match it up with the light coming from the window and hallway. Also the light looks a little hard. I think for this set up (without knowing the story), soft (diffused) light would give you a more even look.

J.R. Hudson
11-13-2008, 12:23 PM
Everyone likes or has something to say about the overall look and lighting, but is anyone concerned with the the massive raping of the Axis Line ?

You're jumping al over the place; the girl is looking camera left, the teacher is looking camera left (when he should be looking camera right)

From the opening shot on it's a visual nightmare.

Not being a d***; just blunt. But the spatial relationship of the two characters is off.

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Opening shot

Teacher is looking camera right - Kids are looking camera right (The kids should be looking camera left)

The shot at 00:00:05 and 00:00:06 are fine; kind of inserty. They work.

But then the teacher is looking CAM LEFT and the kids are looking LEFT. (They should be looking RIGHT)

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A liner note; when the girl enters, and teacher is looking camera left, and she enters movin camera right ... that works, but ... the kids are all looking in the wrong direction. If they were looking camera right, the entrance would work 100%.

Thomas Lew
11-13-2008, 01:44 PM
Took me a bit to understand fully what you said but now that I understand it, it makes sense. I have a few other shots I'll try to fix up those things. Thanks.

If I had the teacher on the right hand side from a shot facing him in the beginning.. would that make it make more sense?

J.R. Hudson
11-13-2008, 01:59 PM
Yes Defintely !

I am not sure what coverage you were able to get, but scrutinze your footage and keep the'camera in your head' on the same side of the line at all times unless the line is moved or crossed

ie. the girl crosses the frame upon entering classroom

Noel Evans
11-15-2008, 12:32 PM
Everyone likes or has something to say about the overall look and lighting, but is anyone concerned with the the massive raping of the Axis Line ?



Lol love the way you put that. Yeah I was, but theres a few issues and I wanted to give some simple solutions to lighting.

J.R. Hudson
11-15-2008, 12:37 PM
Lol - No offense intended towards anyone as always.

:P

The lighting is a much more forgiving element than the visualnessisms.

Thomas Lew
11-15-2008, 12:51 PM
well thanks to Hudson's help I've managed to make it a little more appealing. Definitely going to keep in mind this as I'm shooting in the future.

Noel Evans
11-16-2008, 01:58 AM
e visualnessisms.

hahaha!

J.R. Hudson
11-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Lol Noel

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Hey Lew ? Please post when you are ready !

Robbie Comeau
12-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Yea, I want to check this out!

"Raping Axis Line" Lol!

Robbie

Thomas Lew
12-06-2008, 10:57 PM
Ended up having to re-schedule shooting. I fixed the cuts but have to get the professor to do voice-over. Will repost eventually!