how to get slo motion out of 60p?

[Thomas Lew]

I'm sure that this has been answered somehwere in these forums, but I've given an honest search and I can't seem to find where. So I figured I'd post this as a new topic. Don't hate =O

So yeah. I'm using final cut pro 6.0.4. When I shoot a clip at 720/60p, how do I have it play at exactly 24p?

Thanks!

[Adam J McKay]

if you want to play it exactly at 23.976 you would slow down the clip 39.96 percent.
If you want 24 frames exactly then you would slow the clip down 40 percent.


I dont own a camera that shoots 60p but the math should be write.

24 divided by 60 = 0.4
23.976 divided by 60 = 0.396

[sindrejibb]

Isn't it just to drop the 60p clip down on a 24p timeline?

[ilauzirika]

No, you should first conform it to a 24p file, but I'm not a mac guy so I don't know how to do it, maybe someone that knows will chime in.

[VideoMaker]

But 60p is actually 59.940 so 40% yields 23.976. I'm not a Mac guy, but in Vegas I drop a 60p on the timeline, use a velocity envelope to slow it to 40%, then render at 24p. This gives beautiful slomo (except for the Vegas bug with HMC150 60p footage that sometimes causes jittering).


if you want to play it exactly at 23.976 you would slow down the clip 39.96 percent.
If you want 24 frames exactly then you would slow the clip down 40 percent.


I dont own a camera that shoots 60p but the math should be write.

24 divided by 60 = 0.4
23.976 divided by 60 = 0.396

[Thomas Lew]

Isn't it just to drop the 60p clip down on a 24p timeline?

That's what I thought you did, but mine wasn't playing slow motion. It was playing regular speed but just cutting out the extra frames so it looked shitty.



So in response to what everybody is saying, all you got to do is slow it down by the percent it would be in order to make it play at 24? It's just a matter of doing the math and slowing it down?

[dory_breaux]

That should be right. Of course, if you have a way of interperating the footage, conform it to 23.976fps.

[matt s.]

open it in cinema tools and conform to 23.98 first before putting it in the 24p timeline. I havent messed with this but once and thats what worked for me.

[impressive creations]

Yeah, man, Cinema tools is amazing for this. Be sure to make a copy of your original clip because it will conform it to 23.93 in like 1 second. No rendering or nothing, It just tells quicktime to play it back at 24.. The slow mo is amazing.. Then you can slow it down further in the FCP timeline.. I am so amazed at how good it looks.. I do mostly weddings, so ohhh I can't wait to get this on a bride..

Hope that helps.

B.p



open it in cinema tools and conform to 23.98 first before putting it in the 24p timeline. I havent messed with this but once and thats what worked for me.

[Thomas Lew]

cinema tools? AWESOME

[manglerBMX]

when you have all of your quicktimes in your capture scratch folder go and select the ones you want to convert to slow mo. i make another folder somwhere, usually in my capture scratch as a designated 60p folder. then copy, not move, but copy(select the clips and hold option when you drag them) to your desired folder.

then:
open cinema tools
create new project
change video & sound tc rate to your desired fps
change telecine to 24, (if you're doing a 30p project, 30)
hit ok
cinema tools will open
go to file> batch conform
navigate to the folder where your files are at. you only need to select 1 file in the folder, then hit open. it will conform all of the files in the folder.

now when i have all my clips converted i go back and rename them by adding "60" in the name somewhere. then i move them all back into my projects capture scratch folder and import them into final cut.

[Justyn]

I concur.. cinematools is the best. I use it when I shoot 60p stuff with the HVX and its so much better than messing with the frame percentages, and that old dvcpro converter was the biggest PITA.

I think cinematools is kind of like the ugly backstreet boy that you never really get to see... but man it rocks.. .just like that boy band did.. not really.


cheers on the cam purchase. I'm going to be shooting a lot of 60p with mine.

[thesnazdotcom]

I tried going from 720 60p to 720 30p last night in Cinema Tools, just hitting the conform button under the clip's viewing window, and it did it very quickly, but the slow-mo doesn't look that great. It's sort of jittery. Am I doing something wrong?