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Larry Rutledge
10-07-2008, 10:01 PM
As mentioned in the rules we have a new rule this time around. Instead of putting a "thanks dvxuser" text plug in your fest entry, we now require you to place a "DVXUser Leader" at the start of your film.

So when we launch your movie we should see this leader and then your movie should start after it. This leader is under 10 seconds and does not count against the 6 minutes you have available for your film.

Special thanks to DVXUser member Raptor365 for putting this leader together. And thanks to Jack Daniel Stanley for designing the audio to go with it.

The provided leader includes audio, but you are allowed to leave the audio out if you choose.

There are two files available use whichever one you want. The provided files are large, hi-def clips - simply resize to fit whatever framesize/rate your final film is and render out as usual.

Here are the two versions of the leader:
edited to add by Jack: FOR REAL MEN AND WOMEN :Drogar-Smoke(DBG):
1) Quicktime HQ ProRes 422 - 23.98 @ 1920x1080 - 100MB
http://www.dvxfest.com/public/footage/DVXfestLeaderHQ422.mov

2) AVI - 23.98 @ 1280x1080 - 100MB
http://www.dvxfest.com/public/footage/DVXfestLeader.avi
(added by jack: this file probably doesn't work for most AVI users.
it's prores422 in an AVI wrapper, working on something different for
those who want a high quality AVI)


edited to add by Jack: FOR BOYS AND GIRLS / FANS OF BANDING :kiss:
3) 1080 9mb
http://www.dvxfest.com/public/footage/DVXfestLeader1080h264.mov

4) 720 6mb
http://www.dvxfest.com/public/footage/DVXfestLeader720h264.mov

:)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-07-2008, 10:33 PM
Cool! :thumbup:

ConspiracyPenguin
10-07-2008, 10:50 PM
I am going to download it even though I don't have a film being made just because I want to see it. :)

Bernie Hipos
10-07-2008, 11:54 PM
I'm done downloading it and it's tight!

Mike Manning
10-08-2008, 01:00 AM
ooo sparkles!

armisiano
10-08-2008, 03:06 AM
I impatiently await the AVI :)

Dustin R. Rogan
10-08-2008, 03:29 AM
heres a question I have...

Does the size of the leader count towards the 50MB? or is our film just 50 MB and whats the new limit?

Rogan

Larry Rutledge
10-08-2008, 06:59 AM
The film, including the leader, is still limited to 50MB. I know the provided leader is 100MB, but remember it is a full res hi-def animation. When you include it in your timeline and render out with your film it will compress down just like your film does.

Dustin R. Rogan
10-08-2008, 09:32 AM
thanks for the info Larry!

Rogan

Ezekiel667
10-08-2008, 11:24 AM
Excellent. Now to finish my entry.

Jack Daniel Stanley
10-08-2008, 11:31 AM
It's not so much that we want to stimulate your sense of irony by asking you to download a 100mb leader for a 50mb movie, but rather we were assuming you wouldn't want, oh I don't know, a bunch of banding? :shocked:

Like Larry says, it will compress with the rest of your movie. Even if we gave you a 1Omb file it wouldn't save you any space or bandwidth because in the end all 6 minutes of your movie gets rerendered in h264. What matters is the length of the file. Not the size. (wait for the obvious jokes ... and moving on)

Also, you're gonna have to upload a 50mb file, downloading a 100mb one shouldn't be traumatic.

But for those of you on dialup, or who like banding, or who are in Thailand *cough cough PK* here's h.264's :D

1080 9mb
http://www.dvxfest.com/public/footage/DVXfestLeader1080h264.mov

720 6mb
http://www.dvxfest.com/public/footage/DVXfestLeader720h264.mov

Adam J McKay
10-08-2008, 11:42 AM
I downloaded the AVI and it's just audio. It won't open in media player, vlc or adobe.

Jack Daniel Stanley
10-08-2008, 11:56 AM
I just looked at it and the codec is ProRes in an AVI wrapper, which I'm sure most people don't have who would be using AVI's

What code do you guys need that want a high quality AVI?

Maybe a Mod or a User who works with Mac and Windows can download the ProRes.mov and transcode it to whatever windows people need then we can post their version. Don't know if I can do much more with my system.

Adam J McKay
10-08-2008, 12:21 PM
the apple one doesn't work for me either, im assuming it's also ProRes?

Edit: I can rock the compressed versions so it will have to do for now. Now I just need to shoot my film...hurray.

ZazaCast
10-08-2008, 12:54 PM
See... size DOES matter!

Thanks for posting those other versions JDS... they should work fine for any PC users.
(they do for me, Vegas 7.0e)

Zim
10-08-2008, 01:15 PM
I downloaded the 100mb QT file and put it in the timeline. I compressed the film and it looks great.

Jack Daniel Stanley
10-08-2008, 01:52 PM
awesome. we got one right at least :)

Kyle Stebbins
10-09-2008, 01:42 AM
Great looking leader! Worked beautifully on my MacBook in Premiere Pro CS3. 720p project.

ConspiracyPenguin
10-09-2008, 05:41 PM
I downloaded one of the small files just to take a look at it. Great work, as usual. :)

Zak Forsman
10-09-2008, 05:50 PM
quality graphic indeed, but i gotta throw this out... putting this style of branding on the films asserts to the uninformed viewer that DVXuser was either the production company that financed/sponsored the making of the film or that it's an entity with rights to the work for purposes of distribution -- in short, it tends to imply a degree of ownership. i know that isn't the intent, but i humbly suggest that a line is being crossed.

wouldn't an "Official Participant in DVXFest" graphic be more appropriate? :)

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5391/picture2yn9.jpg

armisiano
10-09-2008, 10:09 PM
quality graphic indeed, but i gotta throw this out... putting this style of branding on the films asserts to the uninformed viewer that DVXuser was either the production company that financed/sponsored the making of the film or that it's an entity with rights to the work for purposes of distribution -- in short, it tends to imply a degree of ownership. i know that isn't the intent, but i humbly suggest that a line is being crossed.

wouldn't an "Official Participant in DVXFest" graphic be more appropriate? :)


You make a very good point. I second that.

Jason Ramsey
10-09-2008, 11:55 PM
No, DVXuser does not retain any ownership, etc, etc. (other than the permission you grant to allow potential inclusion of it in a future dvd compilation).

No, you do not have to keep the leader on your film after the conclusion of the fest.

Zak does raise a valid point in that many people will see these films via the fest or (later) our archives of the submitted films.

We will keep archives of all the fest films on dvxfest.com as always. However, the filmmaker, of course, can always request that we remove it from the archives for whatever reason (potential distribution, etc, etc.). Meaning, beyond the run of this fest the no version of your film with the dvxuser leader need exist.

Though, as I said many people will see the films through this site one way or another, and as Zak suggested, the conclusion could be drawn that DVXuser had some hand in the making or in ownership rights of the film with the leader as it currently stands.

As such, at a minimum... if you desire, you are more than welcome to add to the front of the leader "Made for..." or something to that effect to more accurately reflect the intention of the leader (the dvxuser acknowledgement requirement).

If Raptor has the time, then maybe he can make a new version adding that line to make it more "clear".

Later,
Jason

Richard J. Johnson
10-10-2008, 09:57 AM
My film is in black and white. I changed the leader to B&W because it did not work being in color. I did not see any rule regarding color change, it seems like It would not be an issue. It is still there and I like it.

Larry Rutledge
10-10-2008, 10:22 AM
Yea, that is fine. As long as you don't change the content. But switching to b*w is fine.

Richard J. Johnson
10-10-2008, 11:58 AM
cool. Thanks

Jack Daniel Stanley
10-10-2008, 02:54 PM
My film is in black and white. I changed the leader to B&W because it did not work being in color. I did not see any rule regarding color change, it seems like It would not be an issue. It is still there and I like it.

I wasn't sure Larry was correct actually - if this was actually legal, so I checked the DVXfest Filmmaker agreement, Article 7, Paragraph 10, Subsection 13.

Here's a copy of Article 7, Paragraph 3, Subsection 9. I've highlighted the applicable text for you in yellow.

(continued from previous subsection) whether or not such information is also disclosed orally, that relates or refers, directly or indirectly, to the Submission, including the Submission itself, shall be deemed confidential and shall constitute Confidential Information, and shall include (i) all documents generated by Producer which contain, comment upon, or relate in any way to any Confidential Information received form Writer, and (ii) any written samples of the Submission received from Writer together with any information derived by Producer there from. .2. Confidential Information shall not include any information: (i) That Producer can show by documentary evidence was known to Producer or prior to the date of its disclosure to Producer by Writer or .(ii) That becomes publicly known, by publication or otherwise, not due to any unauthorized act or omission of Producer or any other party having an obligation of confidentiality to Writer; or, .(iii) That is subsequently disclos3ed by Writer to any person, firm or corporation on a on-confidential basis; or .(iv) That producer can conclusively show by documentary evidence that such information was developed independent of any access to the Confidential Information. 2. 3. Writer will disclose the Confidential Information to Producer solely for the purpose of allowing Producer to evaluate the Submission to determine, in its sole discretion, whether the Submission may be further developed into a Project. 3. 4. Producer agrees to accept disclosure of the Confidential Information and to exercise the same degree of care to maintain the Confidential Information secret and confidential as is employed by Producer to preserve and safeguard its own materials and confidential information. 4. 5. The Confidential Information shall remain the property of Writer and shall not be disclosed or revealed by Producer or anyone else except employees of Producer who have a need to know the information in connection with Producer’s evaluation of the Submission, and who have entered into a secrecy agreement with Producer under which such employees are required to keep confidential the Confidential Information of Writer, and such employees shall be advised by Producer of the confidential nature of the information and that the information shall be treated accordingly. Producer shall be liable for any improper disclosure of the Confidential Information by its employees. .6. (i) Producer shall notify Writer of any determination it may arrive at with respect to the further development of the submission, provided, however, that, in doing so, Producer shall not directly or indirectly disclose any Confidential Information to any third party, without the consent of Writer. .(ii) If Producer determines that the Submission cannot be further developed into a Project, within <….> months of the receipt of the Submission, Producer shall within five (5) business days after such determination return any and all Confidential Information to Writer, along with all copies or derivatives thereof and all writings generated by Producer in connection with Producer’s evaluation of the Submission or the Confidential Information. 5. 7. If Producer determines that the Submission is suitable for further development into a Project, Producer and Writer will attempt to agree on a schedule for development, and compensation to Writer for the submission. 6. 8. Other than as specifically provided herein, Producer will not use the Confidential Information for any purpose whatsoever other than for the sole purpose permitted in paragraph 3 hereof, unless and until a further executed agreement is first made between the parties setting forth the terms and conditions under which rights to the Submission and the Confidential Information are to be licensed to, or acquired by, Producer. 7. 9. Writer agrees that it will not contact any party or parties other than Producer concerning the Confidential Information without prior written authorization from Producer during the term of this agreement. .10. Producer’s obligations under paragraphs 3,4, and 8 of this agreement shall extend from the date of this agreement and shall survive the expiration or termination of this agreement, provided, however, that Producer’s obligations under paragraphs 3 and 4 of this agreement shall terminate immediately in the event that Writer shall purposefully disclose the Confidential Information to any other person, firm, or corporation on a non-confidential basis, during the term of this Agreement. 8. 11. Writer hereby expressly warrants that it has the full right and authority to disclose the Confidential Information to Producer, and that no prior public non-confidential disclosure of the Confidential Information ahs been made by Writer nor, to the best of Writer’s knowledge, by any other party. 9. 12. Nothing in this agreement shall be deemed a sale or offer for sale of the Submission, and nothing contained herein shall in any way obligate Writer to grant to Producer a license or any other rights, directly or by implication, stopped or otherwise to the Confidential Information or the Submission. 10. 13. Subject to paragraph 10 above, said filmmaker as defined above, may change said provided DVXuser leader as defined above from color as defined above to black and white, wherein for the purposes of light and video images, black shall be defined as the absence of all color and light and hall be defined as the inclusion of all color and light, and shall also refer to resulting shades of gray in various degrees of gradation as the values in said image transition between said inclusion of or absence of light, if and only if the filmmaker as defined about in section 17 sub paragraph A, has made a film as defined above in black and white as defined above and said filmmaker's user name could be defined as financially prosperous to an unclean degree, and pursuant to the status of the filmmaker in question being generally percieved as a cool dude, so say we all, futhermore, forthwith, and without further adieu. 8. 11. Writer hereby expressly warrants that it has the full right and authority to disclose the Confidential Information to Producer, and that no prior public non-confidential disclosure of the Confidential Information ahs been made by Writer nor, to the best of Writer’s knowledge, by any other party. 9. 12. Nothing in this agreement shall be deemed a sale or offer for sale of the Submission, and nothing contained herein shall in any way obligate Writer to grant to Producer a license or any other rights, directly or by implication, estoppel or otherwise to the Confidential Information or the Submission ....

So ... it looks like you will be ok. :) :beer:

Mike Manning
10-10-2008, 02:58 PM
Well played....

mikkowilson
10-10-2008, 03:37 PM
Nice Jack. Nice.

:grin:



- Mikko

Larry Rutledge
10-10-2008, 05:54 PM
Jack has WAY TOO much time on his hands :grin:

Zak Forsman
10-10-2008, 06:05 PM
that's hilarious!

Simon Höfer
10-10-2008, 06:21 PM
Jack has WAY TOO much time on his hands :grin:
Thats what I thought as well :D

Jack Daniel Stanley
10-10-2008, 06:27 PM
Actually ... I went to bed at 10 AM this morning after working straight through from Wednesday morning.

That was a stress reliever. It may look like it took a long time, but you guys know all of that except the yellow was cut and pasted from a boiler plate, right :thumbup:

Check out http://sonnyboo.com if you haven't already, lots of cool filmmaker freebies like boilerplate contracts to download for use on a shoot or for your own amusement.

Zak Forsman
10-11-2008, 08:14 AM
if you need to covert to an AVI, this site could be worth a shot. http://online.movavi.com/

hoz
10-27-2008, 02:13 AM
okay i got a dumb question to be sure but i havent slept in two days while trying to finish up my movies..

i saved the leader file as a quicktime file but how do i add this to my movie's quicktime file? the leader is gigantic sized and my flick is not. how do i match the leader to be the same size as my flick's?

i hope i make sense...

thanks!

Zak Forsman
10-27-2008, 02:29 AM
okay i got a dumb question to be sure but i havent slept in two days while trying to finish up my movies..

i saved the leader file as a quicktime file but how do i add this to my movie's quicktime file? the leader is gigantic sized and my flick is not. how do i match the leader to be the same size as my flick's?

i hope i make sense...

thanks!you need to bring it into the NLE of your choice and re-export.

hoz
10-27-2008, 02:52 AM
zak!

thank you so much!! i was hoping it would be something easy!

cordvision
11-01-2008, 01:24 AM
Wow, could somebody make a tutorial on how the DVXuser leader was made. That would be really cool...

Jason Miller
11-01-2008, 01:45 AM
i think they told a computer to do it lol it is pretty cool

darkrequiem1134
11-01-2008, 03:38 AM
sweet leader