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hoz
10-06-2008, 09:42 PM
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23303/1223352963.jpg

hoz
10-06-2008, 09:43 PM
reserved for screen grabs and other such things...

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23303/1225259744.jpg

gabrielflorit
10-06-2008, 10:30 PM
Cool poster!

AmyO
10-06-2008, 11:00 PM
Nice poster. I'm intrigued.
Welcome to the fest! :)

jasonthewho
10-06-2008, 11:23 PM
His name is my name too.

hoz
10-13-2008, 07:40 PM
thank you for the kind words on my poster, gabrielflorit and amyo.

i am almost finished filming, i have one last small scene and a couple of pick up type shots, of course it seems that every time i film, something odd happens...

case in point chapter 1 - today i filmed a rather small scene in a parking lot. the scene consisted of one point of view which directly faced the driver. not much else. well, a car decided to park next to ours, mind you the fifty car sized parking lot was empty save for three other lost looking autos, and i parked nowhere near the front door to anything.

then the couple gets out of the car and decides to stand right next to their vehicle, and yeah, the side which faced ours. there was a slight dent on the side of it and i GUESS this was the time for these people to properly assess their property damage. fun. they wound up directly in the shot. i gave them a few moments, who would stay there, right? they did. so i sincerely walked over to them, which took two whole seconds since they parked right on top of our vehicle, and asked them if they could kindly move. and i kept it that simple too, for telling people about filming a movie has gotten me into a whole host of wasteful discussions. i have been asked if i was CNN ( of course i said yes ) to the obigatory " you're filming a porn?" sure, porn, in the middle of a field with one actor - why not? good call, my most inquisitive dropper byer! you see, my actress over there is going to get herself off while fully clothed and running off to her car. of course, after hearing ," no - its a pg type deal " almost everytime, the asker is fully dissapointed. did they wish for me to offer them a role?

in any case, these two people didn't speak english. european of some sort, armed with hearing aids. it was as if the AARP's Croatian contingent sent two of their best agents to dismantle my shot. they looked at me in full confusion and shook their heads. fun! i started to laugh. they didnt think i was funny. the woman mumbled for several minutes on who knows what. she was wearing a mink type coat despite the fact that it was 70 degrees and nice. she was not sweating either. she actually made me feel cold. damn her for that! its still 70 in new york in late october, i dont want to feel cold! i got plenty of time for that in my near future. ugh, winter! well, at least she properly died her hair. it was of a brown color, not that fake red/purple deal most old ladies stray towards

... they finally moved and maybe it didn't even take all that long, ( i guess i could've moved the car, eh, i don't know, it would've felt wrong to move! ) but sheesh... i think the act of filming is always more interesting than the film itself, of course maybe that just means that i need to write better films! ouch.

Tim Joy
10-13-2008, 07:53 PM
it was as if the AARP's Croatian contingent sent two of their best agents to dismantle my shot.

Classic!

Welcome.

Hope you can finish, even when it seems everything is against you.

hoz
10-13-2008, 08:00 PM
Classic!

Welcome.

Hope you can finish, even when it seems everything is against you.


thanks! i will finish, in fact i am currently working on another entry as well, hopefully i'll get a poster and thread for it soon... love your poster BTW, too freaky!


i do think i am going to need help with a music score, anybody wish to offer their services?

maybe i should post a request?

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-13-2008, 08:01 PM
Great story. Good luck on finishing.

Cheers,

Mike

Rodney V. Smith
10-13-2008, 09:02 PM
Thanks for the story and welcome to the fest. sounds like you need a BTS shooter.

pauly_the_hitman
10-13-2008, 10:58 PM
Cool looks interesting.

ZazaCast
10-13-2008, 11:02 PM
Welcome to the fest! Great poster...loking forward to the film.
Cheers!

Bernie Hipos
10-13-2008, 11:40 PM
Hi, welcome and goodluck to you.

Simon Höfer
10-19-2008, 02:36 AM
Another thread I somehow missed. Welcome to the pack! Nice poster!

Michelle J. LaBonney
10-19-2008, 09:17 AM
i think the act of filming is always more interesting than the film itself,

I couldn't agree more...but then I have only been on a movie set once so I guess I am not an experienced opinion.

About your title...I thought it was Jon Jacob "Jingleheimer" Schmidt? Considering what I remember about the rhyme from my younger days (a long time ago), I am very interested to see your film.

Good luck!

hoz
10-20-2008, 09:31 PM
I couldn't agree more...but then I have only been on a movie set once so I guess I am not an experienced opinion.

About your title...I thought it was Jon Jacob "Jingleheimer" Schmidt? Considering what I remember about the rhyme from my younger days (a long time ago), I am very interested to see your film.

Good luck!

thanks for the interest! also thanks to everyone else who posted the kind words.

today i have successfully cut my flick down to 5:59 and change, not easy! can't put up any screen grabs right now since i had to leave for business and i have no access to my stuff... thursday night i will show something!

hoz
10-23-2008, 09:28 PM
a couple of new screen grabs....


http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23303/1224822395.jpg


http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23303/1224822189.jpg

gabrielflorit
10-28-2008, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the grabs - let's have some more!

hoz
10-28-2008, 10:59 PM
Thanks for the grabs - let's have some more!


okay here's one more....

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23303/1225259744.jpg

gabrielflorit
10-28-2008, 11:20 PM
okay here's one more....

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23303/1225259744.jpg

Nice lighting! Did you use a bounce board for this shot?

BTW, you should link to this thread in your signature.

hoz
10-28-2008, 11:31 PM
Nice lighting! Did you use a bounce board for this shot?

BTW, you should link to this thread in your signature.


thanks! i actually didnt need a bounce board, it just worked out.

i should look this up, but how does one link a thread to a signature?

gabrielflorit
10-28-2008, 11:35 PM
On the top-right there's a User CP link. Click on that and go to "Edit my signature". And then add an image, or just a piece of text linked to this thread. It'll generate visibility.

hoz
10-28-2008, 11:59 PM
thanks! i'm going to give it a shot.

Brian Parker
10-31-2008, 01:43 AM
Welcome to the fest! Nice Poster and grabs. Good luck!

Jack Daniel Stanley
10-31-2008, 07:24 AM
The poster has a cool look to it. Like the idea of using that as the title too.

Assume Jingleheimer was left out for copyright reasons? Cool idea.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-01-2008, 10:04 PM
Another first review!

This had a real old school Twilight Zone fee to it. I really liked that. I also loved all the different locations. Great work on that. Framing was pretty good, just maybe shake things up with a little more variety in your shots.

It was a little washed out and the audio was a tad low in spots.

I loved the story and it was pretty creepy in spots. Nice work on that.
Two movies this fest! Next time I bet if you put everything you have into one movie that you will be twice a good. Not really a criticism, just a suggestion.
I did really enjoy this.

Cheers,

Mike

MrKilloran
11-01-2008, 11:40 PM
Audio is real low at times.

I think you lingered too long in the bedroom scene at the beginning.

It had just the right amount of humor to it to contrast the seriousness of the piece.
I really got the feel of the Twilightzone in this one, great job.

hoz
11-02-2008, 09:53 PM
Another first review!

This had a real old school Twilight Zone fee to it. I really liked that. I also loved all the different locations. Great work on that. Framing was pretty good, just maybe shake things up with a little more variety in your shots.

It was a little washed out and the audio was a tad low in spots.

I loved the story and it was pretty creepy in spots. Nice work on that.
Two movies this fest! Next time I bet if you put everything you have into one movie that you will be twice a good. Not really a criticism, just a suggestion.
I did really enjoy this.

Cheers,

Mike

thanks for the comments! as for the washed out looks, i think i needed to better light some of the living room scenes.

my audio needs work. ugh. i need to get better at that.

there is a strong reason i did two movies, but i think you are right, i nearly ran out of time to get both of them in and i regret some of things i didn't get to fix...

hoz
11-02-2008, 09:56 PM
Audio is real low at times.

I think you lingered too long in the bedroom scene at the beginning.

It had just the right amount of humor to it to contrast the seriousness of the piece.
I really got the feel of the Twilightzone in this one, great job.


as for lingering, yeah, looking back at it, i can totally see your point here, i think i did, i tried to get cute with the dialogue to set it up, but really, i got 6 minutes! move on! i should've left more time for the running around, i didn't want to cut any of that and i did. i think i may have cut the wrong things.


thanks for the comments!

ZazaCast
11-03-2008, 10:57 AM
Really good effort on a fellow 'two-filmer'. I don't read other comments...so if they repeat, you know it's something to work on. Audio needs work. I felt the story was weak...and why didn't you title the film after his full name? Some of the camera work was a little off (framing) for my taste. Congrats on getting two films done!

Susanne G.
11-03-2008, 11:24 AM
I enjoyed this one quite a lot. A very simple clever story with so many comical sides. I love the irony in it and I had a amused smile on my face at the end when the girl hummed the song! :thumbup: Why did you choose a german name? Are german people successful for you? :Drogar-Love(DBG)::Drogar-Love(DBG)::Drogar-Love(DBG):

Susanne

majikfraug
11-03-2008, 12:33 PM
:shocked: Thanks. I really needed that song in my head. All week. :dankk2:

Tech issues aside, great concept. Nice seeing other multi-film makers out there :)

hoz
11-03-2008, 04:28 PM
I enjoyed this one quite a lot. A very simple clever story with so many comical sides. I love the irony in it and I had a amused smile on my face at the end when the girl hummed the song! :thumbup: Why did you choose a german name? Are german people successful for you? :Drogar-Love(DBG)::Drogar-Love(DBG)::Drogar-Love(DBG):

Susanne


thanks for the words! real glad you liked it! and yes, in fact, i do know a successful German, my mom! :beer: Her maiden name is Reinel though, not Schmidt either.

Oh, Zazacast, i didnt want to name the movie with Jingleheimer in it because i didn't want it to be completely obvious, although i guess it already is, and because the guy's name is Jon Jacob Schmidt. no other reason.

hoz
11-03-2008, 04:33 PM
:shocked: Thanks. I really needed that song in my head. All week. :dankk2:

Tech issues aside, great concept. Nice seeing other multi-film makers out there :)


just think about editing this thing for as long as i did! i truly hate this song!

I can only thank Leandro Gardini enough for bringing in a score to work along side of it! i really loved how he created a score that seemed to hop along with Jon. I don't have a clue as to how he did that! will leave reviews for you too! thanks for commenting and congrats on submitting two films as well. :beer:

pauly_the_hitman
11-04-2008, 02:09 PM
Good job on getting two films made we know how stressful it can be. I laughed pretty hard at this one. I especially liked the choir as it started signing the song. My only concern is how many people will have that awful song stuck in their heads for weeks.
Pauly

leogardini
11-05-2008, 10:42 AM
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1457369#post1457369

:dankk2:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-05-2008, 10:54 AM
I remember when Leandro scored my first movie! Robin The Spy, for SpyFest.
He did an amazing job. It was very nice of him to help out a first timer and I've never forgotten it. Great score, very professional.

He did a great job here once again.

Cheers,

Mike

leogardini
11-05-2008, 01:50 PM
I remember when Leandro scored my first movie! Robin The Spy, for SpyFest.
He did an amazing job. It was very nice of him to help out a first timer and I've never forgotten it. Great score, very professional.

He did a great job here once again.

Cheers,

Mike
Hey Michael...it was a great learning experience working in Robin the Spy, really...I do my best always...I hope we can work together again!!!

hoz
11-05-2008, 02:39 PM
Good job on getting two films made we know how stressful it can be. I laughed pretty hard at this one. I especially liked the choir as it started signing the song. My only concern is how many people will have that awful song stuck in their heads for weeks.
Pauly


glad you liked it. it was fun working with the choir, they were so cool to work on this.

before we filmed that night, i sat back and watched Chuck ( the choir director, and the man who bumbled and stumbled towards Jon Jacob with the purple shirt on - damn i thought he really nailed that! ) practice with his people. I learned a lot from watching him direct. He had such confidence in where he wanted to take his crew. they worked for 3 hours without a single break or complaint. such dedication and respect for each other. i was real lucky to be able to work with them. that and if i was going to play this song over and over again, i figured i'd better try and get the best people to sing it! the better to entrench all of you with it, ha!

hoz
11-05-2008, 02:40 PM
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1457369#post1457369

:dankk2:

Thank you, Leo! you rule!

Dick Campbell
11-05-2008, 07:09 PM
thought the dialog was weak, and felt like I'd seen this somewhere before. Good photography and flow of the story.

jefflebowski
11-05-2008, 07:57 PM
I especially enjoyed the choir too. I feel the story dragged a bit in the beginning. Good effort; especially with two films.

Tim Joy
11-05-2008, 08:18 PM
I liked the concept. I followed the story without a problem and it was intriguing until the end.

Were you directing and acting? I don't see how anyone can do this.

The best shot IMO, was at the parking lot when we saw the 3-4 kids for the first time and you had that wide shot with the huge brown wall in the background. I liked the framing there. Otherwise, I thought most of the shots were a little bland, and/or had technical problems, like blown out windows and highlights.

One thing that came to mind was, "If he wanted to be famous, and craved the attention, why was he so afraid of it?"

The way you built up to the climax, with all the people pounding on the windows and stuff was great. Good sense of an overall dynamic.

The end was a little cliche, but at least you had the "tag" of her singing that shoved in the twilighty-ness.

Nice work.

Bryce A
11-05-2008, 09:05 PM
Cute play on the song. I could see this oddity of a film being a creative vision candidate. The church scene was especially fun. It marked the turning point where it was suddenly a zombie film. Nice and creative. At first I wasn’t digging the music, but it ended up playing a nice contrast to the humor of the film.

I’m sure you’ve heard, but I was hearing a lot of background noise in the audio.

hoz
11-06-2008, 07:06 PM
thought the dialog was weak, and felt like I'd seen this somewhere before. Good photography and flow of the story.


thanks for you comments.



I especially enjoyed the choir too. I feel the story dragged a bit in the beginning. Good effort; especially with two films.


:thumbup:

hoz
11-06-2008, 07:26 PM
I liked the concept. I followed the story without a problem and it was intriguing until the end.

Were you directing and acting? I don't see how anyone can do this.

The best shot IMO, was at the parking lot when we saw the 3-4 kids for the first time and you had that wide shot with the huge brown wall in the background. I liked the framing there. Otherwise, I thought most of the shots were a little bland, and/or had technical problems, like blown out windows and highlights.

One thing that came to mind was, "If he wanted to be famous, and craved the attention, why was he so afraid of it?"

The way you built up to the climax, with all the people pounding on the windows and stuff was great. Good sense of an overall dynamic.

The end was a little cliche, but at least you had the "tag" of her singing that shoved in the twilighty-ness.

Nice work.


thanks for the great comment!

yeah one can act and direct and etc. etc. etc. its possible when when you work with the best people. i got a lot of help with this flick from a whole variety of people who were so gracious to offer their time and energy.

i've made so many cool new friends from doing this...

interesting comment on the framing of the giant store wall with the kids, this is the shot i wasn't all that pleased with, it looked a little too cold for my liking, i really wished to film this right in the middle of the nearby quaint village but due to sound impossibilities ( ha! i didn't get the best sound anyway!) and to the fear that there would be too many unknown people milling around ( hard enough to have kids act much less kids in front of many many strangers ) i used what you see.

i thought the other shots were good though, that is outside of certain tech problems - like blown out windows- i filmed quickly in spots because certain places i used during break hours or down time hours - i didnt have the requisite time to properly dress the places. so i figured, better to go with the story and show as many people and places as i can and sacrifice the perfect look. that said i am totally cool with your opinion and very much appreciate it:) gotta do better next time!

your question is such a good one too about jon wanting fame and then immediately running away from it, i ran out of time! 6 minutes killed me! i had to cut 4 minutes. but i can think about setting up act 2 a whole lot stronger by having the deli scene play out differently. problem is i didn't want to dwell there any longer than i had to. i got ideas though... a remake is a possibility here, i think i can make this a lot better.

glad you liked the ending! thanks so much!

hoz
11-06-2008, 07:32 PM
Cute play on the song. I could see this oddity of a film being a creative vision candidate. The church scene was especially fun. It marked the turning point where it was suddenly a zombie film. Nice and creative. At first I wasn’t digging the music, but it ended up playing a nice contrast to the humor of the film.

I’m sure you’ve heard, but I was hearing a lot of background noise in the audio.


thank you much for the kind words! we worked hard to bring out as many zany looks as we could to "haunt" jon jacob. the church scene originally was supposed to be the end of film where jon gets married to the one girl who doesn't sing his song when she sees him. obviously 6 minutes doesnt even begin to cover this story arc. cut that out! completely! although that did lead to me doing "the devil inside" . Stacey Kiel was to play Jon's bride. the scene was to show jon walking down the aisle to her where many people would be singing the song while he did.
anyways- Stacey's role was cut out. so i wanted to come up with a story for her and her wedding dress... and so we filmed devil inside. if you have the time please comment on that film too!

thanks again!

stinkpot
11-06-2008, 09:02 PM
I agree with the above posts that your story really picked up toward the end. It was quite funny and well played. The cinematography and lighting didn't do too much for me but you cut your footage well and kept me watching. With that said, there were some shots that worked well... the wide of kids by brick wall (as mentioned in post above) and the secretaries at the docs office (camera felt well placed). Good job!

:beer:

hoz
11-08-2008, 09:59 AM
I agree with the above posts that your story really picked up toward the end. It was quite funny and well played. The cinematography and lighting didn't do too much for me but you cut your footage well and kept me watching. With that said, there were some shots that worked well... the wide of kids by brick wall (as mentioned in post above) and the secretaries at the docs office (camera felt well placed). Good job!

:beer:

thanks for the comments! glad you liked the story. as i left on your thread, i enjoyed your movie as well...

heccky
11-08-2008, 10:01 AM
looks cool :Drogar-Dum(DBG)::thumbup:

Danielleus
11-10-2008, 07:11 PM
Hey,

Just caught the flick. I liked what you were doing with and I really though the idea was a fun one. I thought the acting worked and was amazed at the number of locations as extras you managed to pull together for this. Very nice work in selling th e world of your story.

I thought the pacing was a bit slow for a comedy and that there just weren't as many laughable moments as I would have liked. This joke tends to get old kind of quick and it seems that most of what happens is he goes somewhere and gets confronted with the joke. So for me, that aspect of it grew stale relatively quickly.

Some different shots in the bedroom would have been nice and maybe some CC to sharpen the image. The audio was weak and sounded like it needed a boost. Otherwise, it seemed fine to me.

So I liked the idea here, I just wish there was more ways to spice it up than what you showed. Can't really think of something now, but it would have helped. Keep it up and thanks so much for showing.

gabrielflorit
11-11-2008, 05:04 PM
Hmmm hmm hmm hmm hmh hm hm hmmmmm... great little song!

Oh wow! You wrote directed and acted in this! Really well done. This kept me interested all the way through. And congrats on using all those locations, really well done, it added quite a bit to the short.

hoz
11-11-2008, 08:14 PM
Hey,

Just caught the flick. I liked what you were doing with and I really though the idea was a fun one. I thought the acting worked and was amazed at the number of locations as extras you managed to pull together for this. Very nice work in selling th e world of your story.

I thought the pacing was a bit slow for a comedy and that there just weren't as many laughable moments as I would have liked. This joke tends to get old kind of quick and it seems that most of what happens is he goes somewhere and gets confronted with the joke. So for me, that aspect of it grew stale relatively quickly.

Some different shots in the bedroom would have been nice and maybe some CC to sharpen the image. The audio was weak and sounded like it needed a boost. Otherwise, it seemed fine to me.

So I liked the idea here, I just wish there was more ways to spice it up than what you showed. Can't really think of something now, but it would have helped. Keep it up and thanks so much for showing.


thanks for the in depth comments! i think i know how to improve some of the story, don't know if i will, but i would like to. i actually wrote out a history which would explain why jon jacob schmidt became a song in the first place, but scrapped it due to script constraints.

hoz
11-11-2008, 08:25 PM
Hmmm hmm hmm hmm hmh hm hm hmmmmm... great little song!

Oh wow! You wrote directed and acted in this! Really well done. This kept me interested all the way through. And congrats on using all those locations, really well done, it added quite a bit to the short.


thanks for comments! really glad you liked it. this short had to have as many locations as possible. besides it was fun to go out and hunt for new places to shoot. i had three other places in mind too. i wanted hundreds of people if possible. i may yet try, anything is possible, this short showed me that much...

for instance, i didn't have any actors lined up to shoot the deli. i did have the gracious consent of the owner but that was it. i had a couple of actors, but they canceled. with the deadline approaching, i winged it. i went to the deli with a tripod and hoped that there would be a couple of strangers there who'd be willing to participate. the guy who i used didn't even know anything about jon jacob schmidt... its not easy to explain to an adult what that song is about, really, its like WTF... well, it did make it easy for him to act like he did though. he was a great sport. so was the woman, she went on and on about the days when she was a PA in manhattan. some cool stories. never know who you going to meet.

Brian Parker
11-12-2008, 01:47 AM
Hey Hoz...You got a lot accomplished with this flick. Lots of extras and locations...put in a lot of work. There defeinately was a Twilight Zone spirit to this as I seem to recall many episodes that dealt with vanity and hubris. It felt very familiar in that sense.

The acting came across well and outside of the audio being a little quiet in some spots, everything came together well. I liked you main actress performance. Fun flick. Good job man!

SparkyZa
11-14-2008, 02:39 PM
Ha! That was good. Fun little movie.

Horncastle
11-18-2008, 04:14 PM
Watched and voted, now for late comments:
I liked the story and compliments on all the locations and different people you managed to rope in on this. I know that changing location frequently and dealing with a lot of actors/extras makes it much more difficult to keep the quality up, but you did have some problems here. A lot of the photography was burnt out in the highlights or rather flat: a bit more attention to lighting (especially some fill) would have helped. A lot of the framing was also rather uninteresting. Some monologue was unnecessary (e.g. at 4:10: "What am I going to do" etc. - we already understand that he's thinking that). Fun story though, it kept me interested and it had me smiling.
Jason

hoz
11-18-2008, 09:52 PM
Watched and voted, now for late comments:
I liked the story and compliments on all the locations and different people you managed to rope in on this. I know that changing location frequently and dealing with a lot of actors/extras makes it much more difficult to keep the quality up, but you did have some problems here. A lot of the photography was burnt out in the highlights or rather flat: a bit more attention to lighting (especially some fill) would have helped. A lot of the framing was also rather uninteresting. Some monologue was unnecessary (e.g. at 4:10: "What am I going to do" etc. - we already understand that he's thinking that). Fun story though, it kept me interested and it had me smiling.
Jason


thanks for the comments, especially for pointing out what i need to work on, most helpful !:thumbup:

also a big thanks to Champloo and SparkyZa :beer:glad you liked it.