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Ed Kishel
09-29-2008, 05:33 PM
As a prospective HMC150 buyer (soon I hope) I have been ravenously searching out new clips from this camera, and am grateful to all of those who have posted their clips for us to see and evaluate. :)

One clip I have not found yet, was that old standard of low light challenges for video: candlelight.

Not just for me mind you, but I think for so many others who are considering this camera over other sub $4k cams (like the Canon XH-A1, JVC GY-HD110U, and Sony HVR-V1U).

Candlelight, with its soft fall-off and warm color, is something that puts a cams propensity to noise to the test. And although I know that this would not define the 150's overall image performance, it would still be great to see how it tackles it. I am sure there is a more clinical way to test noise, but in this case we can see it in terms of how we might actually light a romantic scene.

So, to those owners who might be interested, would you consider shooting a few seconds of a person's face or some other still life- lit by one or two candles (with and without gain)?

The 150 is very promising in terms of its low light ability. Is the 150 a high def progressive version of the Sony PD-150- with the color rendition of a DVX?? This seems like it.

http://gracemagazine.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/candlelight430.jpg

http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/candle-light-photography.jpg

If possible could you post the PRIVATE folder from the card or post the .mts file? Thanks folks!

Edit: if the mods want to move this to the reg forums until it has any clips, please do :)

ecking
09-30-2008, 02:21 PM
What are those two grabs from?

Thomas Lew
09-30-2008, 02:26 PM
Yeah I would do this but I don't have any candles and I think I'll get in some serious trouble cause I live on campus at a college. When I go home this weekend I'll give it a try.

Ed Kishel
09-30-2008, 03:44 PM
If you right click on the grab and choose properties (win) you can see where I got them. Probably from SLR, but used it to show what might be a good repro for the 150.

What are those two grabs from?

Justyn
09-30-2008, 04:21 PM
hehe. the bottom pic does not have flattering shadows. Looks like chicken something or other...

kurtmo
09-30-2008, 05:21 PM
Uploading candle footage now.

CandleFootageNoGain (http://jewellhome.net/hmc/00031.zip)

The footage with gain is longer. I'll upload that to vimeo. Both clips are 720p24

kurtmo
09-30-2008, 08:01 PM
Candlelight footage on Vimeo. ClipWithGain (http://vimeo.com/1854379)

matt s.
09-30-2008, 08:32 PM
wow thats clean gain!

thanks for that clip.

Mike Harvey
09-30-2008, 09:25 PM
Kurtmo, that gain stuff is really clean... I'm impressed.

Daygola814
09-30-2008, 10:23 PM
Is an .MTS file the files that the HMC150 produces?

matt s.
09-30-2008, 10:26 PM
Is an .MTS file the files that the HMC150 produces?

Yes.

ullanta
09-30-2008, 11:03 PM
Can someone do a candlelight test and compare the DRS levels?

Ed Kishel
10-01-2008, 11:24 AM
very clean blacks, :love4:

is it true the DRS only works on 60i like the 170? Thats a major bummer

EDIT:

confirmed DRS is not avail in 24p or 30p- it is such a cool idea: certain under and overexposed pixels adjusting gamma and knee independently in realtime to give better rolloff to darks and light areas. Ships passing in the night.....

PaPa
02-13-2009, 07:42 AM
very impressed with 12db gain

PaPa
02-13-2009, 07:45 AM
now what are things to avoid with intraframe ?

Retrospective
02-13-2009, 11:49 AM
Those are great images! Its actually beautiful to make low light shots now :)