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ESTEBEVERDE
09-23-2008, 10:01 AM
With the new crop of 35mm DSLRs that can shoot video undoubtedly the "NEW" 35mm Adapter has to be gyro stabilizers (http://www.ken-lab.com/) that kill the jellocam! :-)

What do you think?

joe 1008
09-23-2008, 02:50 PM
With weekly rental prices from 250$ to 300$ it seems at least available.

ESTEBEVERDE
09-23-2008, 03:39 PM
Ah to be sure. To be sure joe!

I don't know why but ever since I met and saw ROBERT CAMERON's (http://abovebooks.com/presidio07.html) work.

I wanted one of my very own! :-)

ryan brown
09-23-2008, 03:39 PM
Why does that site (the first one) look like it was built in the fifties!? A website update could do them some good, but I'd still like to see these in action:thumbsup:

hdimages.ca
09-23-2008, 03:51 PM
i have the ks-8 and i love it . will even work better with my new lighter hpx170. i shoot with 5d as well but never needed to mount on my 5d will try it monday . up in the heli to shoot some seaplane footage. will try with a 300 2.8 is. lens. i don,t know what the res on the old 5d video is but will find out. crap compared to the new 5d mark2.

ESTEBEVERDE
09-23-2008, 04:26 PM
i have the ks-8 and i love it . will even work better with my new lighter hpx170. i shoot with 5d as well but never needed to mount on my 5d will try it monday . up in the heli to shoot some seaplane footage. will try with a 300 2.8 is. lens. i don,t know what the res on the old 5d video is but will find out. crap compared to the new 5d mark2.


Be sure to post some sample here! :beer:

timmytimetravel
09-26-2008, 02:30 PM
Jetaddiction,

We are now all waiting with baited breath! The first canon non-professional footage has surface today, and it is full of jellovision like the d90. See the 2nd video here -
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=148196
There is talk about what the pro's have done to hide it in the example marketing footage. Did they just not pan, or was it the use of gyros?!

So if you could please please if you can try and get a fast pan past a vertical line with the gyros on, it might put it to bed! :)


cheers

ESTEBEVERDE
09-26-2008, 08:03 PM
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Rental List May 2008
(when available) - Click on Kit to access our store (http://www.ken-lab.com/html/rentals.html)



Week

Month

KS-8

$300.00

$750.00

KS-6

$250.00

$600.00

KS-4

$200.00

450.00

ESTEBEVERDE
09-26-2008, 08:04 PM
PRICE LIST REVISED March 20th, 2008
Click on the blue part # to access our new E-commerce Store (http://www.ken-lab.com/html/pricing.html)

GYRO KITS (click on item # to see pictures)

KS-12

GYRO with Inverter

$10,000

KS-8

GYRO KIT

$4,000

KS-6

GYRO KIT

$2,800

KS-4

GYRO KIT

$2,000

KS-2

GYRO KIT

$1,600

All kits are complete with KBC 115V Charger,
Inverter, Battery pack, CIG Adapter Cord in a iM2200 Storm Case.

MODEL

GYROS LISTED SEPARATELY

LIST PRICE

KS-12A

THE CHIEF

$8,800

KS-8

ADMIRAL GYRO

$3,500

KS-6

COMMANDER GYRO

$2,200

KS-4

UNIVERSAL GYRO

$1,600

KS-4A

UNIVERSAL GYRO with attached inverter

$1,800

KS-2

EXPLORER GYRO

$1,300

KS-2A

EXPLORER GYRO with attached inverter

$1,500

SINGLE OUTPUT INVERTERS

SSV153-24

KS-12 INVERTER 24-32VDC

$1,200

KI-28-6

KS-6/8 INVERTER 28VDC

$350

KI-12-6

KS-6/8 INVERTER 12VDC

$350

KI-28-4

KS-4/2 INVERTER 28VDC

$325

KI-12-4

KS-4/2 INVERTER 12VDC

$325

KATT

12 Volt Attached Inverter for KS-2 or KS-4

$200

DUAL OUTPUT INVERTERS

KI-28-D

KS-2/8 INVERTER 28VDC

$400

KI-12-D

KS-2/8 INVERTER 12VDC

$400

4 OUTPUT INVERTERS

KI-28-Q

KS-2/8 INVERTER 28VDC

$600

KI-12-Q

KS-2/8 INVERTER 12VDC

$600

BATTERY PACKS AND BATTERIES

KPB

BATTERY PACK (BELT)

$ 125

KPB0

BATTERY ONLY

$ 60

CHARGERS

KBC

6 HOUR 115V/230V auto sensing charger

$ 130

KQC

3 HOUR 115V/230V

$175

EXTRA EQUIPMENT

KGC

GYRO CORD 2' COIL

$ 75

KGC-12

GYRO CORD 12' CABLE

$ 110

KCA

CIG ADAPTER CORD COIL

$ 75

KBA

BINOCULAR ADAPTER

$ 75

KSC

STANDARD CARRYING CASE

$160

KLC

LARGE CARRYING CASE

$180

ESTEBEVERDE
09-26-2008, 08:05 PM
Expensive!
Expensive!
Expensive!
Expensive!

timmytimetravel
09-26-2008, 08:20 PM
Heh. There is always shooting wider and using "Smoothcam" in FCP. I've used it occasionally to good result...

Those gyros aren't too pricey compared to some, and if the ks4/6 kit $2k-$2k8 will work on every camera I've got, and every still camera, and steadicam, and d90? Hmmm... might be worthwhile... Especially if you can take a cheap steadicam like a merlin or something, whack this on it and save yourself $7k on a flyer or above... :) I mean the steadicams are rated by weight, but i find the smaller ones just too flighty, but gyro might make the difference. Wild if it turns a featherlight dslr into something that improves "handheld" style footage into something usable. Imagine shooting a club scene in low light handheld, with just the d90 and a little gyro underneath it!? You wouldn't see some of the gait type issues anyway with the rest of the movement in the shot...

ESTEBEVERDE
09-26-2008, 10:01 PM
On Vincent 's blog he said:

"ESTBE - I used the Gyro for all of the helicopter shots - and the one shot of the actor running to grab the flowers… that’s it." (http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/26/original-raw-clips-from-reverie-now-available-for-download/#comment-2532)


That's actually Damn Good news!

Park Edwards
09-26-2008, 10:09 PM
how the hell do these things even work?

ESTEBEVERDE
09-26-2008, 11:48 PM
What?

Gyroscopes?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope)


Clip... including 1980s Cheeeese for a sound track. (http://www.ken-lab.com/html/video_clip.html)

beckspace
09-27-2008, 12:03 AM
Reading about it I've found out that

1) they are noisy (how much? anyone knows?)
2) takes two, at right angles, for full stabilization
3) you cannot pan or tilt the camera rapidly
4) they take about 5 to 10 minutes to harm up (to come up to full speed)

but

5) they work

anyone here had any experience to shoot video (with sound) with those?

ESTEBEVERDE
09-27-2008, 12:26 AM
Reading about it I've found out that

1) they are noisy (how much? anyone knows?)
2) takes two, at right angles, for full stabilization
3) you cannot pan or tilt the camera rapidly
4) they take about 5 to 10 minutes to harm up (to come up to full speed)

but

5) they work

anyone here had any experience to shoot video (with sound) with those?


Yes.


Best way is for you to go to your local rental house and check some out.

beckspace
09-27-2008, 12:53 AM
Yes.


Best way is for you to go to your local rental house and check some out.


That would be the way if I lived in US, in Brazil is kind of difficult

portable gyros are more of a photographic gear for aerial shots, too specialized to rent over here

I also read that after the gyro got to full speed of 20000 RPM (!!) you can detach the power cord for a silent operation of some minutes, is that true?

ESTEBEVERDE
09-27-2008, 01:01 AM
That would be the way if I lived in US, in Brazil is kind of difficult

portable gyros are more of a photographic gear for aerial shots, too specialized to rent over here

I also read that after the gyro got to full speed of 20000 RPM (!!) you can detach the power cord for a silent operation of some minutes, is that true?


Depends on the ball bearings used, the construction of gyro, etc...

Perhaps some can post some videos here.

Chris_TC
09-27-2008, 04:01 AM
1) they are noisy (how much? anyone knows?)
2) takes two, at right angles, for full stabilization
3) you cannot pan or tilt the camera rapidly
4) they take about 5 to 10 minutes to harm up (to come up to full speed)
I think they also take ~20 minutes to "cool down" / stop running.

Toenis
09-27-2008, 06:36 AM
Even with two of the cheap gyros you would be at the price level of an EX1 with Letus Ultimate with lens included and you could save few thousands by not bringing a lightning kit ;)...

ESTEBEVERDE
09-27-2008, 11:56 AM
Like I said.

The gyro is might very well become the next "35mm adapter"!

ESTEBEVERDE
09-27-2008, 01:22 PM
P.S. The Gyro only keeps the camera from making quick erratic movements.

It will go a long long way in eliminating Jello! But NOT SKEW.


Skew is the result of the subject moving across the sensor faster than the sensor is read.