Nikon's big announcement.

[f64manray]

Nikon's big announcement in Feb 09. Anyone care to speculate what the hell it might be? A cine video camera that beats Red One for $5,000 might be big.

http://www.wppionline.com/tradeshow/show2009/images/BigNight.jpg

[min lee]

medium format?

[The Sarlacc]

D3x or some name there of...most likely the long rumored high mpx full pro camera from Nikon.

[rawfa]

SOB! Not february!

[andoguru]

Foveon chips?
Foveon still and video camera?

[murcott]

i read somewhere that it could be 50mp... rumor though. Project called "Otoji"

[ando]

no one knows, just rumors

what's interesing is that in 1959 nikon released their F series slr which is now a classic.
so 50 years in 2009 could bring either an anniversary party, a collector's edition camera (http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/htmls/models/htmls/S3y2k_SPLE.htm) or something else "big"

2008 is the 75th anniversary for the nikkor line of lenses and the 90th for nikon. 2008 is also a good chance for something other than d60, d90 and d700.

we'll just have to wait.

[ando]

Foveon chips?
Foveon still and video camera?

not exactly foveon
they've patented a new type of sensor in 2006 (in US). that technology is a possibility.
http://www.nikonwatch.com/2007/08/10/new-patent-for-sensor-old-news/
http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/07/28/non-bayer-dichroic-sensor-in-the-works-again/ ~21.6mp ;)

[brian leahy]

bposted over on dvinfo:
"Nikon "little RED" flash based Camcorder in 2009?
Just been to IBC. Bumbled in a person that I know with tight Nikon connections. He mentioned that Nikon has plans to do a flashbased videocamera in Red One-style with mount for Nikon lenses.

Price point <4.000 USD. The front end - optics and sensor will be Nikon, but the rest of the electronics will be designed by a well known japanese videomanufacturer.

Announcement NAB 09 - delivery late 09.

The idea is to erase Canons Pro video division.

DISCLAIMER: I have no idea about the validity of this. The source is usually reliable, but he is a still photographer."

imagine!!

Edit: Below image is a photoshop mockup

[Matthew Bennett]

I like! Just a bit shorter in the back though would be nice

[Kholi]

posted over on dvinfo:
"Nikon "little RED" flash based Camcorder in 2009?
Just been to IBC. Bumbled in a person that I know with tight Nikon connections. He mentioned that Nikon has plans to do a flashbased videocamera in Red One-style with mount for Nikon lenses.

Price point <4.000 USD. The front end - optics and sensor will be Nikon, but the rest of the electronics will be designed by a well known japanese videomanufacturer.

Announcement NAB 09 - delivery late 09.

The idea is to erase Canons Pro video division.

DISCLAIMER: I have no idea about the validity of this. The source is usually reliable, but he is a still photographer."

imagine!!

I don't believe this for a second. HOWEVER... that would be way too sweet. LoL

[f64manray]

I don't believe this for a second. HOWEVER... that would be way too sweet. LoL

I don't know. It makes sense. A little preview with the D90 (with crippled features) and then a full fledged video camcorder a year later.

I think this solidifies my decision to go with the 5D MKII. I'm a photographer first and the MKII will give me a professional level DSLR with the video capability to do the web based video product I need right now, and I won't be regretting the MKII purchase when and if this or any other progressive products arrive in 09. It looks like 09 is going to be a major stepping stone for indies to step up next to the big boys in production capability. It's an exciting time to be an image maker.

[Bebel]

Hectic people! Love your imagination brian!

D3x with 1080P 24fps maybe?

[TimurCivan]

i'd be happy with an AVCHD 1080p24p dedicated camera. that would rock.... and a 72060p slomo option....

[ESTEBEVERDE]

A Nikon Video body capable of 1080 24p - 120p+ would be ideal.

Same lens compatibility as the D3 with a large capacity battery option and a more video friendly form factor.

$ < $4k USD

That would be the one.

[Bebel]

A Nikon Video body capable of 1080 24p - 120p+ would be ideal.

Same lens compatibility as the D3 with a large capacity battery option and a more video friendly form factor.

$ < $4k USD

That would be the one.

Sounds sweet :beer: So get on your marks Nikon! Sombody has to do the work..

[Thebes]

It makes a little sense. You know how rumors are, I remember how the D90 was rumored to have 4k or so video.... I knew that wouldn't happen. But it makes a little sense.

It would be an excellent tool for photo journalists. Newpapers are increasingly wanting video, and if the camera takes both good stills and good video, it would be a sort of "force multiplier" for newspapers. Even before the D90 rumors I had read a couple stories about the future merger of still and motion photography. If Nikon feels that's likely they might decide to jump on it. They have no video line to cannibalize, as has been pointed out about 100 times by others.

Also, the word BIG, over and over?? Its not going to be just another full frame sensor D-SLR. A rangefinder? If so, how is that "BIG". Medium formant... maybe, anything is possible, but I really don't see that unless they'd secretly bought up a failing MF company (Contax from Kyocera?)

I think a video camera taking F mount lenses would be really BIG. And it would then make sense why they put video into the D90 and left it rather crippled... Its not catering to soccer moms, its whetting our appetites.

[Luis Caffesse]

As cool as the idea of a Nikon video camera might be (and I'm not saying it's not going to happen)
I seriously doubt that's what this announcement is referring to.

Just ask yourself - if Nikon were to unveil a video camera in hopes of truly competing in the video market -
why on earth would they make the announcement at a Wedding & Portrait Photographers International event?

It makes no sense.
They would unveil something like that at NAB or IBC... or some other video related event.

My guess is this is going to be the 'official' announcement of the rumored D3X, which should be a 24 MP camera
(hence the 'BIG' references)

[John Caballero]

It has been happening for a while now. Rumors begin, then sneak shots of the products start showing up with a disclaimer then rumors become a reality. The only one that shows prototypes and publish specs way in advance is RED.
As for showing a professional camera at a wedding & portrait photographers huge event it wouldn't surprise me. These are top notch image makers who comprise a multi million dollar industry first of all. Second, a lot of event videographers are moving to HD video cameras as their clients move to HDTV sets as well as BlueRay players. Third, Nikon would make news way in advance than its competitors at NAB would. By the time NAB came around the guys that don't go to the wedding event would be already looking to check ouy the new Nikon camera at NAB.
About the camera picture, that is exactly the way I envisioned the first Nikon video camera to look like. Amazing if it is. And you know this guys are going to throw all their weight to make it competitive.

[ando]

posted over on dvinfo:
"Nikon "little RED" flash based Camcorder in 2009?
Just been to IBC. Bumbled in a person that I know with tight Nikon connections. He mentioned that Nikon has plans to do a flashbased videocamera in Red One-style with mount for Nikon lenses.


that image looks soo fake
:beer:

as for the weddings event i don't remember nikon ever releasing something at that party.
it's small compared to nab or photokina. the location is strange so that makes me curious

the most recent rumors say that photokina 2008 will bring new prime lenses. they will be announced tomorrow. so check the news, we'll see if it's true or not.

the 14-24 and the new PC lenses they all are way above D3's resolution. some older are better than D3's too.
so all this would make room for a great 20+ mp camera.

[John Caballero]

When the first D90 photographs started appearing they also "looked so fake". People kept saying that the camera wasn't happenning. No video on a DSLR. They were very disapointed when the photos indeed were real. Thats how the human brain works many times.

[ando]

yeah but this one really looks fake
the nikon logo is on every possible side with different fonts and the lens is with the markings on the side, not on the top like the F mount is. it's just a photo of a lens with nano coating found on the web. the guy didn't know the distance reading is on the top.

[John Caballero]

I remember reading the Nikon rumors forums and looking at possible D90 early pics and those were the exact same words people were saying. Practically word for word. And we all know what happened next.

[ando]

do you have a nikon at home? try to mount the lens on the side
it'll be cool to use too. you can't see the focus distance and the focus/vr switches will be hard to reach. other than that pretty cool picture.

[lisa hayse]

Sorry to burst your dream bubble guys but this is faker than the fakest.

It's somehow photoshoped.
Here where the design came from:

http://www.arri.de/entry/products/D-21.htm
http://www.arri.de/entry/products/D-21.htm

I'm sure Nikon has something up their sleeve in terms of video but they are still in the
experimental process.. They are not ready to take on the world just yet. Maybe
in 2 years or so when the can finish some serious R&D and know more about their
competition.

I'm Sad Too........

[brian leahy]

Yes it's fake, i photoshoped it my self just to give an idea of what could be on the way,
sorry about the confusion, i presumed it was an obvious mock up.

[lisa hayse]

No Problem Brian,
Everybody dreams BIG....

I am sure Nikon is focused on Improvements right now
But would I love to be Shocked by some radical ProVideo Cam to shake up the competitors.

D90 is an awsome Stepping Stone.
I have already planned on having three D90 cams to shoot a movie.

[Bebel]

:crybaby:

anyhow i'm sure we won't have to wait another 2 years hey!

[sean90291]

I thought it all looked fake too. Like a pale rip-off of a Red announcemnt. It's almost like a parody of one of Jim Jannard's press releases: "It's so big we can't tell you what it is!"

And the photo of the rig looked fake to me too.

But I suppose the truth is, even if it's fake, it's probably gonna be real eventually. It's a direction that Nikon will start heading, probably, and there will be amazing high-res, pro quality, digital video cameras for the price of today's D90. Maybe it will take 5 years though?

[f64manray]

Progress is going to come fast and furious at this point. I doubt we are more than a coup[le of years away from a DSLR type camera dedicated to video. In many ways, DSLRS have just broke the sound barrier and put a crack in the glass ceiling that previously separated the big production companies form the indie. The playing field just started becoming a whole lot fairer in the last couple of weeks.

In the future, people will be able to recall where they were when Kennedy was assassinated, where they were when the trade towers fell, and where they were when the D90 was released. :-)

[utako.o]

I thought it all looked fake too. Like a pale rip-off of a Red announcemnt. It's almost like a parody of one of Jim Jannard's press releases: "It's so big we can't tell you what it is!"


the poster is for real.. just nobody knows what it will be.. although most speculation is about a medium format camera.

[sean90291]

It's real? Well that's interesting. I mean, their "this is big and we can't tell you what it is" will be the marketing slogan of 2008...and we'll be making fun of it next year. It just sounds so silly now after hearing it from Red over and over. But I have a short attention span, so maybe it still works for everyone else.

[ando]

the new primes rumor was real

just one announced but probably there will be some more

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08092201nikkor_50mm_1_4glens.asp

[Steve Castle]

Yes it's fake, i photoshoped it my self just to give an idea of what could be on the way,
sorry about the confusion, i presumed it was an obvious mock up.

I'm sorry my sarcasm meter is broken, this is suppose to have been originally published in an ad in Rangefinder magazine (page 148), and is now on the official WPPI website. The ad itself is real and has been floating around for awhile.

http://nikonrumors.com/2008/08/22/nikon-digital-rangefinder-rumor-still-alive.aspx

http://www.wppionline.com/index.taf?_function=bignight

Its probably the rumored MX-format Nikon; a live-view medium-format camera that is suppose to be similar to a Mamiya 7 (no reflex-mirrors, OVF, etc.); rumors suggest it uses a CMOS sensor instead of a CCD that every other medium-format camera uses. No suggestion it does video.

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/nikon-readying.html

Also, I'm sure we will see a Red One rival at a lower-price range sooner or later- if not from Nikon, maybe from Canon, Sony, or Panasonic. The technology is obviously here, but perhaps not in the packaging or form-factor.

[Bebel]

ad says "we really shouldn't say anymore, but we well. NEXT MONTH!"

check out yourself: http://nikonrumors.com/2008/08/22/nikon-digital-rangefinder-rumor-still-alive.aspx

NOW IT'S NEXT MONTH and i'm looking forward to hearing from nikon within days or weeks.

cannot wait 'till feb '09 to decide wheather to go with (24p?)5DMK2 or BIG nikon :thumbsup:

[USLatin]

I think the whole BIG thing is their 20+ MP camera and if they sold a camera for $4,000 it wouldn't look like an Arri... it would look more like an HVX...

Bologna

[stoiqa]

i think the whole big thing is their 20+ mp camera and if they sold a camera for $4,000 it wouldn't look like an arri... It would look more like an hvx...

Bologna

hd ?

[Car3o]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/mysterious-leaked-nikon-dslr-ads-hint-at-something-big/

check out the size of that sensor

[Thebes]

I think the sensor is FX sized and its a small body, like the D40, but without a mirror. It will only view via LiveView, which is already better on my D90 than the viewfinder. Note the lack of any motor screw, and the lack of the aperture opening lever. Plus a 50mm af-s was just released, makes sense with this config...

Wonder if it will do video. Actually I wonder if the video it will do will be any better than the D90... I think most any new Nikon or Canon will probably do video.

[roxics]

Ok, Nikon has never made a medium format camera in 50+ years they have been around. Why would they suddenly start now in the digital age? I don't know about most of you, but digital medium format images don't look any different to me then 35mm sized digital camera images.

This announcement has to be about something different. Personally I'm hoping for a video camera line like many of you. That would be a BIG announcement and would make the most sense considering Nikon released the D90 with video recently and has a history of making super 8 movie cameras decades ago.

[Thebes]

The MX medium format theory is based partly upon the larger image circles provided by the new PC lenses. I definitely DO see a substantial quality increase with tonality, micro contrast and dynamic range with MF digital cameras. But that was always the case with film too. There is a nice market for some of the new digital MF cameras, but its a small niche market with very expensive equipment that can use a wide variety of lenses if you don't need full automation.

I can't see Nikon doing a MF camera unless its compatable with other existing MF lenses. Even if they came out with 5 new lenses and their PC lenses worked too (in that small of a mount!), thats still far shy of what can mount onto a Mamiya or Blad... The glass just isn't there for it.