View Full Version : Movie master's dark fortune "it's to die for" the gate's are open!!!!!
MOVIE MASTER
09-18-2008, 10:37 PM
AND HERE WE GO BOYS AND GHOUL'S IT IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN THE GATES OF HELL RE OPEN TO UNLEASH ULTIMATE EVIL AHAHAHAHAH!..................HA? ANY HOOT LET THE EMBALMING FLUID RIP!
CAUSE IT'S SHOWTIME !!!!!!!!!
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/18202/1225128504.jpg
Michael Anthony Horrigan
09-18-2008, 10:40 PM
Movie Master in da house!! :D
Cool poster!
Michael Anthony Horrigan
09-18-2008, 10:42 PM
BTW, which Mod is really Movie Master? :evil:
MOVIE MASTER
09-18-2008, 10:45 PM
The one that reek's like sulfur!
Kyle Stebbins
09-18-2008, 11:25 PM
Asylem?
Luis Caffesse
09-18-2008, 11:43 PM
NOW it's a fest!
:thumbsup:
clarkage
09-18-2008, 11:49 PM
Sweet Poster! Look more to seeing more and welcome!
conrad_johnson
09-19-2008, 09:14 AM
I'm still not convinced this is a real person.
Luis Caffesse
09-19-2008, 10:54 AM
I'm still not convinced this is a real person.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4426/keysersozehs1.jpg
"The best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
:thumbsup:
pauly_the_hitman
09-19-2008, 11:13 AM
Kyser Sosa....
Welcome to the fest...
Pauly
Tom Marshall
09-19-2008, 02:02 PM
So Kevin Spacey is Moviemaster?
Michael Anthony Horrigan
09-19-2008, 02:48 PM
So Kevin Spacey is Moviemaster?No, Kyser Söse is Kevin Spacey!
Wrap your head around that!! :Drogar-Love(DBG):
Tom Marshall
09-19-2008, 03:13 PM
Mike, man... don't do that on a Friday... :cheesy:
MOVIE MASTER
09-19-2008, 04:55 PM
The sands of time our upon us!!!!!!!!this coming week in honor of this being the official 3rd year anniversary of moviemaster i shall reveal a huge announcement!!!!!!!! I will keep you posted remember evil never dies!!!!!!!!!!
clarkage
09-19-2008, 06:06 PM
How come I have never heard of you but everyone else has?? haha
Ted Arabian
09-19-2008, 06:10 PM
WOO HOO!!! MOVIE MASTER MAKES HIS RETURN!!!
Oh, the glory days!
damn, this will get me back online!
welcome back oh master of mayhem!
666
Simon Höfer
09-20-2008, 03:40 AM
..:666:..
MOVIE MASTER
09-20-2008, 05:59 PM
I just picked up some extra bodies! for my films uhhhhh how I love the putrid smell of decaying flesh in the evening!!!
TimurCivan
09-20-2008, 06:29 PM
The gates of twilight are open!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weston
09-20-2008, 06:51 PM
Movie Master is back!!!!
I can feel the hellfire already!
MOVIE MASTER
09-21-2008, 01:13 PM
Back with carnage!!!!!!!!!!
Simon Höfer
09-21-2008, 02:09 PM
Can't wait for that! http://www.greensmilies.com/smile/smiley_emoticons_xmas4_axt.gif :evil:
MOVIE MASTER
09-23-2008, 04:29 PM
WELL WAIT NO MORE FOR THE BIG SCOOP!
IN HONOR OF THIS BEING MY 3RD YEAR MOVIE MASTER WILL UNLEASH
DOUBLE MAYHEM THATS RIGHT A DOUBLE FEATURE FOR THIS FEST!!!!!!!!!
eVIL JUST GOT SCARRIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOON I SHALL POST MORE INFO!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHH ITS THE Formaldehyde TALKING! CHEERS
conrad_johnson
09-23-2008, 04:57 PM
Formaldehyde.
:)
Ted Arabian
09-23-2008, 06:18 PM
WELL WAIT NO MORE FOR THE BIG SCOOP!
IN HONOR OF THIS BEING MY 3RD YEAR MOVIE MASTER WILL UNLEASH
DOUBLE MAYHEM THATS RIGHT A DOUBLE FEATURE FOR THIS FEST!!!!!!!!!
eVIL JUST GOT SCARRIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOON I SHALL POST MORE INFO!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHH ITS THE Formaldehyde TALKING! CHEERS
TWICE THE ACTION!!!
TWICE THE THRILLS!!!
TWICE THE FUN!!!
Woo-Hoo, MM... taken it to da house!
MOVIE MASTER
09-23-2008, 06:35 PM
HERE IS THE BIG NEWS!!!!!!!!!
mY SECOND FILM IS NONE OTHER THEN THE NOW FINISHED NEVER BEFORE SEEN
FROM THE DEPTHS OF DESPAIR!!!!!!!!
UNHOLY
THE FILM THAT WAS NOT REALESED THREE YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!
HAS NOW BEEN RE-SHOT RE-EDITED AND HAS MORE GORE MORE MAYHEM MORE
MOVIE MASTER!!!!!!!!!
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/18202/1199767755.jpg
IT HAS A WHOLE NEW TWIST, NAME, PLOTT, THE GATES OF DOOM WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOVIE MASTER
09-25-2008, 09:33 PM
JUST GETTING DONE TYING UP SOME LOOSE ENDS OF MY FILM!
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/18202/1222399949.jpg
Dustin R. Rogan
09-25-2008, 11:06 PM
I should prolly pee before I watch this...or else I'll have wet pants by the end of it....
Yipes! Just Yipes!
Rogan
(runs and looks for his mommy)
MOVIE MASTER
09-29-2008, 07:11 PM
shooting a double feature is hard stuff I got a lot of help from all the ghouls and ghoblins I could find! http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
hope every one is finished soon!!!
I cant wait for the time to unleash our creation!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOVIE MASTER
09-29-2008, 09:47 PM
It is almost here i am giddy with terror
ZazaCast
09-29-2008, 09:59 PM
It is almost here i am giddy with terror
Me too... :zombie_smiley: Go get'em MM!
I wonder how many of us are creating 2 entries?
Mike Manning
09-29-2008, 11:46 PM
Dude... you posted on like everyone's thread but mine! Am I not special too??
miamivideo
09-30-2008, 05:50 AM
I like your movie title. Any screen grab yet?
MOVIE MASTER
10-02-2008, 05:28 PM
They are coming and evil will be unleashed
Mike Manning
10-02-2008, 05:30 PM
Bring it onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
MOVIE MASTER
10-06-2008, 06:56 PM
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gifhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2272/2434449185_122f716b92.jpg?v=1208924058
POSSIBLE LOCATIONhttp://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
MOVIE MASTER
10-06-2008, 07:59 PM
i BETTER GET CRACKING i DONT WANT TO GEY LEFT OUT IN THE COLD!!
Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-06-2008, 09:01 PM
Good luck, MM. :thumbup:
Simon Höfer
10-07-2008, 02:59 AM
Yeah, we wanna see something!
miamivideo
10-09-2008, 12:29 PM
I just noticed that you are involved in two shorts, I hope you finish both in time. Where are the screen grabs? good luck!
MOVIE MASTER
10-18-2008, 05:53 PM
HELL HAS NO TIME!!!!
THE o.g 666
MOVIE MASTER
10-18-2008, 05:57 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/13owser_/Freaky.jpg
Jack Daniel Stanley
10-21-2008, 09:34 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/13owser_/DSKSigbyWombat.jpg
MOVIE MASTER
10-22-2008, 08:11 PM
viva la hvx!!!!!!!!!!!
still editing kind of like the little demon that could
MOVIE MASTER
10-26-2008, 12:26 AM
I think i can i think i can anyone else editing?
Drew Ott
10-26-2008, 12:27 AM
Just started editing.
MOVIE MASTER
10-26-2008, 12:35 AM
Nah getting it done almost their
TimurCivan
10-26-2008, 02:03 AM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/13owser_/Freaky.jpg
i literally will never sleep again......
MOVIE MASTER
10-26-2008, 06:05 PM
Okay 48 hrs and no sleep that is when you know you are a film junkie
MOVIE MASTER
10-27-2008, 11:32 AM
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/18202/1225128504.jpg
Simon Höfer
10-27-2008, 11:41 AM
Haha, nice poster! 666
MOVIE MASTER
10-27-2008, 12:29 PM
thanks my brain feels numbed from lack of sleep.
Tom Marshall
10-27-2008, 08:09 PM
good luck MM
MOVIE MASTER
10-28-2008, 05:25 PM
i AM GLAD I WAS ABLE TO UPLOAD!
GOODLUCK YOU GUYS AND GHOULS
Tim Joy
10-28-2008, 05:44 PM
I can't wait to see it.
... but I faint at the sight of blood. So... do you think I should still watch it?
Tom Marshall
10-28-2008, 08:27 PM
Oh yeah... 666
MOVIE MASTER
10-29-2008, 04:59 PM
tHE GATES WILL SOON oPEN!..
MOVIE MASTER
10-30-2008, 11:09 PM
Evil shall be unleashed! Cheers
Mark Harris
10-30-2008, 11:32 PM
I for one am really excited about some "double-open" gate action.
Mike Insane
10-31-2008, 12:12 AM
I have to say I am excited about this... My brother (my DoP) just walked into my edit bay and shreiked at the dog lady picture! Needless to say we are both sold!
Brian Parker
10-31-2008, 01:04 AM
I don't know if I should try to hang with two scoops of terror but I'll be there anyway Movie Master. Looking forward to it. :grin:
Mark Harris
10-31-2008, 11:33 AM
NAILED IT.
I have to say, I am gaining a real appreciation for MM's work. I think we honest-to-God have a B-Movie-Master in training here.
MM, you GOTTA do some sound work in post. Everything will look 100 times better with good sound.
Now, there's a plot hole in there. But I'll let the rest of you find it for yourself. But it's a fun flick.
And his movies are always some of the first I watch...
Mike Manning
10-31-2008, 02:00 PM
You're f*cking out there man! Haha... I really dug your films! Some pretty evil, twisted sh*t! Congrats and great work!
This is the type of film that you have to make with absolutely no reservations, and you, my friend, had no reservations. Just went for it with everything you had. It was fun. I agree with Mark about the plot hole (and I'm pretty sure we're thinking of the same one), but again, plot holes abound in this genre, so not a big detractor.
Gotta go watch the other one . . .
ZazaCast
10-31-2008, 02:45 PM
Excellent effort. I'm with the other as far as the plot goes...but then again, your evil rules!
Seemed a little dark and some of the edits looked funky to me.
I'd call this one "Evil Funky Spooky Film"! Great job. Now I must watch the other....
Kholi
10-31-2008, 03:04 PM
LOL Freakin' Awesome.
Mile Bozicevic
10-31-2008, 03:38 PM
:D
Too dark at some parts (hardly to see anything), and yes, improving your sound would make this much better (and by 'much greater', I really mean it.)
Story got me a little counfused, but I enyoyed it.
Hope to see more of some spooky thing on the next fest. Keep up!
Zak Forsman
10-31-2008, 04:02 PM
i'm not denying the awesomeness, but why is it titled Dark Fortune?
Weston
10-31-2008, 09:11 PM
Movie Master!...you went all Gordon Willis on us! I'm seriously digging some of your dark cinematography here.
Overall I liked the movie quite a bit. I think its an improvement over your previous work.
I havnt seen your other fest entry yet but I'm looking forward to it.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-31-2008, 10:59 PM
You ARE the master!
Nice work, very disturbing. Different for what's out there nowadays.
Cheers,
Mike
darkrequiem1134
11-01-2008, 04:04 AM
rediculous
MOVIE MASTER
11-01-2008, 06:58 PM
rediculous
and your point is?
So where is your film hummm?
I tried on to make the best with what i had! On my film. Oh wait i mean films!
Maybe nextime you could show me how it is done!
TimurCivan
11-01-2008, 07:05 PM
ROCKS HARD as usual....................
MOVIE MASTER
11-01-2008, 07:15 PM
Thanks timur yu Da man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU ALL THINK IT DOES REALLY HELP TO MAKE ME A BETTER FILMMAKER!
SO THAT SAID, LET HER RIP!
bosindy
11-01-2008, 07:27 PM
hmmm. the plot hole is rather large. but the ending does explain why the killer seemed to need a cup of coffee. very entertaining film. congrats on getting one, neh two done.
Mile Bozicevic
11-02-2008, 02:01 AM
and your point is?
So where is your film hummm?
I tried on to make the best with what i had! On my film. Oh wait i mean films!
Maybe nextime you could show me how it is done!
Agreed 100%. :beer:
As someone/s stated here already:
filmmaker=/=excuse maker
Hmm since you love the horror thing, how about experimenting with some blood one next project? You have some nice actors there, I guess there's no problem for them to get a 'little' bloody 'n stuff. :zombie_smiley:
Bryce A
11-02-2008, 09:29 PM
Well, it was indeed a dark fortune that was met. My main question is: why was the daughter so frightened in the house with the killer when they were cahoots the whole time? But good job on getting a youngin to act. It’s the best I’ve seen from a youth in the fest so far (best that required any real acting.... anyone can throw a ball in the air). The biggest issue I see for you to work on is lighting. Keep it in mind …next fest!! Keep it up, you evil person you.
p.s.
and your point is?
So where is your film hummm?
I tried on to make the best with what i had! On my film. Oh wait i mean films!
Maybe nextime you could show me how it is done!
Arrogant maybe, but quite HILARIOUS.
TimurCivan
11-03-2008, 03:27 AM
Thanks timur yu Da man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU ALL THINK IT DOES REALLY HELP TO MAKE ME A BETTER FILMMAKER!
SO THAT SAID, LET HER RIP!
I like your camera movement. Try experimenting with dynamic camera moves. Shifts of perspective that reveal things. you started doing this, and i must say i like it. Try it more... experiment with how you can tell the story with the camera, by creating more "meaningful" shots as opposed to, coverage. know what i mean? you've come along way MM......
I want MORE.....
gabrielflorit
11-03-2008, 05:58 AM
I enjoyed this. Things I liked: the girl looked really afraid when she was tied up. I've seen other shorts this fest where victims don't behave afraid. She did. I really liked the moment when she runs out, and your camera is in the car, it really works. The way she spills out of the house, and the mom runs up to her, that was a great moment, made me think of what I'd do if I was a parent and came home to my child running out like that.
Things I didn't like: why was the girl so afraid of the killer when they were working together? That made no sense and ruined the film for me. You should white balance, all the shots are very red, although this might be something you wanted. The driving shots are way too dark, we can't see the drivers, an eye light would have been helpful. Also, why oh why do helpless women walk in houses when there's a danger element in there? Such a cliche, I hate when that happens.
But nonetheless I enjoyed this. It created tension, which is hard to do. Congrats! :thumbsup:
Steve Strickland
11-03-2008, 07:36 AM
Cool flick, MovieMaster!
It's got some genuinely creepy moments. I love the killer's methodical pacing. Kind of a Michael Myers style lunatic. Love it!
There are a few technical issues that maybe need work, ie. lighting, cutting, sound, but they've been covered and are really issues that are easy to improve upon. Every film is a learning process, and you seem to be getting better with each film. Keep it up!
Really cool, gritty vibe. Scary villian. Nice twist. Thumbs up.:thumbup:
Robbie Comeau
11-03-2008, 07:57 AM
Hey,
I felt it was a pretty weak story.
I liked the scene where the mom comes in, and the shot is through the windshield at the mom trying to calm the daughter. That felt VERY real.
Creepy guy in the mask, this the strangers 2? :)
Ya man, horror is hard to make without it being cheesy. Try doing more "dark" films like Mike Horrigan. I guess you could say there "horror" films, but there more on the dark side, with less cliché storylines.
Keep at it,
Robbie
Jack Daniel Stanley
11-03-2008, 08:05 AM
...
Arrogant maybe, but quite HILARIOUS.
Such is Movie Master. But his arrogance is earned via the hordes of souls (and embalming fluid) he's swallowed.
Do you call the lion arrogant for roaring? The rooster so for crowing? No. They are simply being a lion and a rooster. MM is simply the best filmmaking demon of his realm.
Hey,
I felt it was a pretty weak story.
I liked the scene where the mom comes in, and the shot is through the windshield at the mom trying to calm the daughter. That felt VERY real.
Creepy guy in the mask, this the strangers 2? :)
Ya man, horror is hard to make without it being cheesy. Try doing more "dark" films like Mike Horrigan. I guess you could say there "horror" films, but there more on the dark side, with less cliché storylines.
Keep at it,
Robbie
No no. As fine a filmmaker as M.A.H. is, don't make movies like anyone but yourself. We all strive to make better movies. But you're Movie Master - nuff said.
Here's a quote for your poster or sig should if you like:
"This film was a like dog that licked itself somewhere private then licked me directly on the face." Definitely an experience, perhaps unexplainable at its core, but one I can't help but admit liking somewhere deep down.
Great job as always.
:beer:
Robbie Comeau
11-03-2008, 08:08 AM
I was just recommending him Jack, to try something else, less horror, more dark. A dark drama would've beaten this for sure, by Movie Master to.
Was that quote for me or him? hahaha.
Robbie
Jack Daniel Stanley
11-03-2008, 08:11 AM
I know you were recommending him, and I think it's bad advice to try to "be like" any other filmmaker rather than to learn the vocabulary of film and become more and more adept at it in order to better express your own voice.
The quote was for MM. Haven't seen your movie yet, but from what I've heard the quote would readily apply to you as well. No idea what that means but whatever it means, I'm just kidding. :)
Darkline
11-03-2008, 08:22 AM
There is something primal about MM's work that I like. Super entertaining.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-03-2008, 08:34 AM
No no. As fine a filmmaker as M.A.H. is, don't make movies like anyone but yourself. We all strive to make better movies. But you're Movie Master - nuff said.
:beer:Agreed.
MM.... you are the king of B style horror movies, don't change. Just learn and master your craft. Wait? You're already the Movie Master?? :)
I feel like I just stepped in a time machine every time that I watch one of your movies. That in itself is a great feat!
Robbie, I really appreciate the compliment and understand what you were trying to say.
Thanks. :thumbup:
pauly_the_hitman
11-03-2008, 08:37 AM
Well I dug the story and it was pretty dark. I think we should all make movies that make us happy as individuals and not worry what everyone else thinks. OF course when submitting to festivals and competitions be prepared to hear the gambit of comments.
MOVIE MASTER
11-03-2008, 09:37 AM
THANKS GUYS
tO ALL THOSE THAT ASK WHY? WHY WAS THE DAUGHTER AFRAID WHEN HER AND THE DAD HAD A PLAN, WELL EVIDENCE BABY! WHEN THE COPS SHOW UP THEY WOULD FIND A BODY A VICTIMIZED GIRL WITH ROPE MARKS SEE THE CHAIR THE PRINTS THE ROPE AND REALIZE SOMEONE BROKE IN AND NEVER BLAME THE DAUGHTER!
Bryce A
11-03-2008, 12:22 PM
THANKS GUYS
tO ALL THOSE THAT ASK WHY? WHY WAS THE DAUGHTER AFRAID WHEN HER AND THE DAD HAD A PLAN, WELL EVIDENCE BABY! WHEN THE COPS SHOW UP THEY WOULD FIND A BODY A VICTIMIZED GIRL WITH ROPE MARKS SEE THE CHAIR THE PRINTS THE ROPE AND REALIZE SOMEONE BROKE IN AND NEVER BLAME THE DAUGHTER!
ingenious. Slipped right past me. I knew there was a reason you were the movie master.... besides that whole eating souls and such.
Maximus
11-03-2008, 06:13 PM
So cool that Mr. I made a cameo in your movie!
Your work is always entertaining. Look forward to your next creation. :beer:
MOVIE MASTER
11-03-2008, 06:21 PM
mm is simply the best filmmaking demon of his realm
thank you sir coming from you it means alot jds is the king!
Mark Johnson
11-04-2008, 09:56 AM
Loved it. I totally get it that the daughter got "into" the role in order to protect herself. When she gets interrogated by the police she'll need to have a story that is believable and consistent. How better than to act out the incident so that she can respond convincingly and consistently to questioning?
A really nice job MM. Your stuff keeps getting better and better.
MOVIE MASTER
11-04-2008, 06:43 PM
i totally get it that the daughter got "into" the role in order to protect herself.
yep yep but i do agree to much story not enough time!
Dick Campbell
11-05-2008, 07:16 PM
I found the handheld shaky and distracting. Also thought there was a missed edit near the end, continuity didn't seem right. Car shots were just too dark.
MOVIE MASTER
11-06-2008, 04:32 PM
i AM GLAD YOU ALL ENJOYED IT
alex whitmer
11-06-2008, 08:34 PM
Lived up to it's name. Dark. I really had to strain to see detail.
Little 'Blair Witch' with the hand held but liked the shadow effects and the menacing character POV up the stairs.
No surprises, but enjoyed the suspense. Nice job on the bad dude.
Overall it felt 'inspired by' B-movie teen slasher flicks, and I never really saw the twilight hook.
Some nice painterly effects with light.
alex
Danielleus
11-07-2008, 11:53 AM
Hey,
Just caught the flick. I liked what you tried to do in this. The camera work was fine and while there was a bit too much screaming/moaning in fear, I thought the panic of the piece came off well.
Unfortunately it didn't entirely sell me. There just seemed to be too many holes in this one for me really get into it. The ending was shocking not because of the twist but because the girl comes of as just plain mean because I didn't think her (mother?) deserved what she got. At all. Which might have been what you were going for? I'm not sure, but it seemed harsh.
And I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of the girl being THAT panicstriken about someone she knows it not going to kill her. It just strikes be as incredibly odd.
The killer's mask is very creepy but alas, a little overdone, I think (I kept thinking of all the other bag-headed killer movies I'd seen.)
But a good effort and thanks for sharing. Hope my comments help. Can't wait to see your other one.
Keep them coming.
thetvirus513
11-09-2008, 01:24 AM
I definitely liked it, I gotta say the screaming got a little annoying (too much) but definitely added to the story, When the girl ran up the stairs though in order to keep the viewer convinced that it was real I would have had her bust outta the door or at least run out....it seemed like she got to the top and then walked out?
stinkpot
11-09-2008, 08:33 PM
Slasher slasher in the night
Hiding from the blinding light
Black and red and red and red
Good night slasher now they're dead.
Great flick. I would like to see the warm colors cooled way down and desaturated a bit. This would really give it a creepier feel. Maybe even black and white.
Movie Master, you definitely have the knack. Keep up the good work!
:beer:
MOVIE MASTER
11-10-2008, 05:23 PM
i would like to see the warm colors cooled way down and desaturated a bit.
dude you read my mind! Thanks for the feedback
movie master!
good movie!!!!
liked the use of chloroform, movies just don't use it anymore. good villain too. is that you under there?!
loved the shot through the car's windshield, that really looked cool. as for the story, well, i see what you're getting at, but the 180 change in the girl is crazy insane!
keep filming!
Brian Parker
11-12-2008, 12:41 PM
Hey MM. Crazy movie but I think I liked Restless better. I think I get what you were going for but It just didn't grab me. I did like the shot through the windshield though when the girl came running out of the house. You definately know your genre and how to create the imagery for it. And two movies in one fest? Nice job.
SparkyZa
11-13-2008, 08:39 PM
Greatest filck!
MOVIE MASTER
11-17-2008, 08:43 PM
we actually won something wooooo!
you really like me!
you really really like me!
well i cant wait 365 days to come up with a new flick, congrats to all the winners!
see you next year!
Jack Daniel Stanley
11-17-2008, 11:57 PM
Can't believe you didn't place man.
You got jacked :)
Darkline
11-18-2008, 04:03 AM
next year? What about Lossfest MM? Maybe someone loses their life...
TimurCivan
11-18-2008, 02:15 PM
or an arm.....