Casting for topless role?

[ot444]

I have done casting before and know how it is done. Well, this time casting for a topless role and not too sure how to handle it. Obviously at some point the top picks need to show "the goods". What a chest looks like with a shirt on sometimes looks nothing like you would image when it is exposed.

We will have females assisting with casting. What should be said in emails prior to prepare them to do this? How should it be handled when actually there auditioning? Thanks for any help/advice.

[moonlitnite]

Aside from the actual audition, you'll want to pre-screen candidates to ensure they meet your minimum criteria. Factors may include:

- physical size/measurements
- shape
- proportion
- markings (tatoos)
- firmness
- attributes (augmentation, etc)
- actress comfort performing a topless role, prior topless assignments
- any exclusions/restrictions to perform topless

Having female assistants are a great idea. And be certain you don't have needless crew gawking candidates - you may also want to post someone outside the door during auditions to avoid inappropriate intrusions. And absolutely no one should take pictures or film candidates unless they give written permission. And even then, you gotta be extremely careful to secure the media and derivatives.

And don't forget the obvious - validate the candidates meet the minimum age restriction in your jurisdiction.

Bottom line, you want to do as much pre-screening as possible so that the candidates aren't removing their top unless they've passed your entrance criterial.

[ot444]

Thanks for replying.

All that are attending are aware that the role is topless and they have all gotten back to me stating that they do not have a problem with it.

We will be requiring proof of age. (the role is for 20's to 30's)

The main thing I do not know how to handle is the actual topless part of the audition.

"Wow that was a great read, you take direction really well... we need you to take your top off now so that we are sure you don't have some sort of breast deformity..."

What is the proper etiquette during the audition to bring up that it is now time to take your top off? After the top is off should they continue to be directed as to see how well they take direction with top off? (horror film, screaming, look of terror, etc..)

[grinner]

To just tell em it's a topless role and to remove their top. Don't over think it. If you look at em as boobies it'll be creepy and awkward for all. Audition what ya need to see and leave it at that.

[DogDay]

Ice cubes...Don`t forget the ice cubes.

[SilverWolf]

You could actually go through the initial auditions and then take note of the people that you like. If you like them you can call them back for a second audition in which you will have them take there top off or wait until the end of the first casting and do it then. By doing this the people auditioning won't think that you are just asking everyone to take their top off but only ask those who actually have a chance at the part

[Ted Spencer]

Agreed - vet the actresses past the acting audition phase first (assuming we're not talking about a background role). Only ask for nudity on callbacks of actresses who are otherwise qualified for the role. If it's low or non-paying, you'll almost certainly get lots of candidates with dismal acting ability. There's no reason to put everyone through the embarrassment in those cases. Auditions are humiliating enough for actors even without any nudity...

[Capt Quirk]

Or perhaps, do that backward if you are looking more for aesthetics, call back the pairs you like and see if they can act too.

[ZazaCast]

I'd go with the best actress...then visit my local strip club for a body double...this would be the easiest way to keep everyone at ease & get the best final product.

The actress isn't stressed-out by the nagging thought of having to bare all...and the stripper...well, that's her job! Everyone's happy.

[moonlitnite]

Thanks for replying.
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"Wow that was a great read, you take direction really well... we need you to take your top off now so that we are sure you don't have some sort of breast deformity..."

What is the proper etiquette during the audition to bring up that it is now time to take your top off? After the top is off should they continue to be directed as to see how well they take direction with top off? (horror film, screaming, look of terror, etc..)

Err, we're unsure of the main qualification of the role. So we'd probably give you different answers depending of whether the part is for a topless dancer versus an b acress needing to bare her top for a certain scene. Since you suggested a horror/terror film, let's assume that the topless attributes are secondary. Then as previously mentioned, you can ask the candidates to complete a pre-screening form to validate or quality your initial criteria (perhaps a side camera angle might hide a limitation). And for those who pass and meet your other pre-casting criteria, you would ask them to provide an "in costume" rehersal. If the actress is only doing a topless part, then get right to it. If their role requires them to remove clothing, then provide appropriate direction as well. If so, instruct them on what the actress should be feeling when they remove their top. You certainly want to see how well they take directions and show artistic creativity, etc.

While this is only loosely related, here's an example. Remember Sigourney Weaver when she thought she found safety in the small ship, safely away from the Alien? Knowing she was safe, she removed her clothes and exposed the vulnerability of being a woman (http://www.starman-imaging.com/feb03/alien345r.jpg). Anyway, the point is that if removing her top is part of the role, that's how you present it during casting.

OTOH, if all you're looking for is "the goods," then be sure they are aware of their principle purpose in the film. In that case, direct them accordingly obviously being sensitive to removing their clothing. But IMHO, it would be less than ethical to audition women and demonstrate their acting ability, then ask them to remove their top when you know their only role would be show show physical attribute of their endowments.

Incidentally, we should always be mindful of risks to cast and crew, ensuring we've taken appropriate steps to mitigate all possible risks. Obviously, whenever someone is not wearing their clothing, everyone can be influenced. An actress moving from location to location could sustain an injury. Other people on the set could become distracted and present a safety hazard to themselves and others. I once had an employee hop off a high chair and sustain a leg joint injury. The employee's doctor attributed the inflamation of the bursitis due to jumping off the chair, so it became an "on the job accident!" Which brings up the point of workmans compensation - but that's another thread...

Good luck, Michael

[Chenopup]

My $.02 - if you're recording the casting session (and the goods) you want to be very clear on what the footage is being used for and that it won't get into the wrong hands either. Very sensitive but most casting we do ends up on dvd shortly after for additional review if needed.

[ot444]

Thanks for all of the replies.

This is the call back round. The only thing is, we had a small turn out for actresses willing to go topless. Now we have a few more that would like to audition. Since we are running short on time, this second round will now be the first for a few of the girls.

[Capt Quirk]

Just explain that to them, and that they will now have to show and read, because there isn't time to call them back.

[Ted Spencer]

It's all about responsibility. IMO, if you explain the situation honestly you should be fine. It's quite understandable under the circumstances that you might have a shortage of suitable candidates, and are seeing some for the first time in the second round. That happens often even for non-topless auditions.

However, I'd still tell the actresses that you plan to do the acting part of the audition first, and will not ask anyone to undress until you're reasonably convinced they're suitable for the role otherwise. It may make for a slightly awkward moment for those who are *not* asked to undress, but I think it's the lesser of the two 'evils'.

On the other hand, I can just see some actress with more nerve than talent brazenly stripping anyway after she's been told she didn't pass the acting part.

People do some pretty unbelievable things in auditions...

[moonlitnite]

Great advise - sounds like we're all of the same mind!

[J.R. Hudson]

Casting for topless role?

Here is a casting for breastesses

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00371/SNN1343B_371650a.jpg

[Capt Quirk]

I see you surf the Page 3 site :)

[Richard J. Johnson]

Casting for topless role?

Here is a casting for breastesses

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00371/SNN1343B_371650a.jpg

That's me on the right.

[Capt Quirk]

That's me on the right.The one with the blue goo all over their front???

[frisco]

I've done it before... Really no big deal.... Boobs are Boobs..... That's how you have to carry yourself... If your a nervous Nelly.... It shows and the vibe will be as such.

- I wouldn't roll video
- Shoot Polaroid's in the money poses for the scene (if you can't tell from that... you can't tell)
- Make sure talent see the Polaroid's and how many there are. Number them 1of7.... 2of7 ect.
- Put the boob casting pics in a separate envelope for each actress. This shows your pro and you care about the security of there pics.
- If your a male...... Make sure you are never alone with an unknown naked female.
- Keep the wise cracks to yourself. Just like joking with a TSA agent.
- Contact and arrange to have all Polaroid's returned. They have to pick up in person and sign for them.

If you do any less than that... Your an Amateur and you leave yourself open for unnecessary problems.

frisco

[RandomHero]

I can't say I've ever done a production with that as a need, but if I were, the key word would be "professionalism". Like you've said, they know the roll is topless. They know they have to act to. Roll right from one to the next as if there was no difference in your mind, because there can't be. I like the point from Frisco on returning them the polaroids (if they need to be taken in the first place, I would imagine a simple note on their audition sheet would suffice) And to avoid negative reactions (like a gag reflex to a less-than-perfect physique) have a signal prepared that anyone in the audition has to give before they remove clothing. If you can tell from outside the shirt that you won't like what's under, don't put them through that. Lots of great advice, just figured I'd toss in my two Lincolns.

[Michele Seidman]

if this is not too late of a reply....

frisco nailed it...and i would add to something another person mentioned, have a female casting assistant.

the last time i helped find topless talent, we had a female take them in to another room and take a quick snapshot when no one else was in the room. we did ask some of them back and told them they would have to take their tops off in front of everyone in the 2nd go round of casting. we wanted to make sure they would not freeze up when there were more people in the room.

plus...some who sent video auditions, we allowed to have a friend or boyfriend take a snap shot and snail mail it to us to avoid it being on the web.

[Sad Max]

Minor quibble - I think Ripley's semi-nudity is about exposing the vulnerability of being human. A mostly-naked man facing a super-horrible alien predator inside a tiny little spaceship wouldn't be in any better a position, than Ripley was.

/end threadjack

In my experience, on-set nudity is generally handled by placing emphasis upon trust, privacy, and everyone being at least minimally mature about it. On some shows I have seen actors pass up the robes and walk around stage in the altogether between takes (well, one show, and the particular actor was showing off how buffed he'd gotten). On others, I have seen the director and DP strip down themselves, with the goal of making the actors feel more natural and comfortable (something I sincerely hope to never see, again).

Anyway, I imagine that you might handle your audition-nudity in much the same way.

Or perhaps even offer your auditionees the option of bringing in photographs of their busts, to begin with, since ultimately it's how the breasts will appear in two dimensions on a screen that counts, more than how they appear in front of you at first-hand. That way they control whatever media contains images of them bare, at least, until you get into you later narrowing-down process.


edit: I posted that before reading what Michelle had posted. Yeah, what she said.

[Ted Spencer]

Having it wind up on the web seems to me a very tricky piece of business. Scanners are commonplace, so hard copies of topless pics are no insurance against it. What I'd be concerned about as a producer/director under the circumstances liability-wise is the one loose cannon in the bunch who, unbeknownst to all, puts the images on the web in a basically untraceable manner, using a free email account. The existence of that could place the producers in legal jeopardy regardless of how it was accomplished.

I'd be tempted as producer to be the only person with access to such images. Unfinished feature films all too often "escape" onto the 'net through various means (usually reviewers' and composers' copies), as do unfinished pop songs from recording studios.

On the other hand, I wouldn't want to be too paranoid about it...

Like I said...tricky piece of business...

[frisco]

Tips for when shooting the nude scene.

- Minimum crew
- Have nude/semi nude talent male or female strip down to a loose robe for at least an hour before shooting. This assures no lines created from undies, bra , socks and such.
- Also there are make-artists that do body make-up also.

frisco

[Michele Seidman]

On others, I have seen the director and DP strip down themselves, with the goal of making the actors feel more natural and comfortable (something I sincerely hope to never see, again).

edit: I posted that before reading what Michelle had posted. Yeah, what she said.

omg Sad Max you just made me picture a few directors and DP's naked that I never wanted to imagine naked...lol and thank you for that...ha ha ha not! omg i have done nudity (back when i was young and nothing had dropped) and we were supposed to have a closed set and the director kept saying it was...until I pointed to the large group of extras who had gathered just out of his eye line! not to mention my own brother in law who was a gaffer...i found out he was hiding behind the set with a group of techs. no matter what some folks are going to peek!


What I'd be concerned about as a producer/director under the circumstances liability-wise is the one loose cannon in the bunch who, unbeknownst to all, puts the images on the web in a basically untraceable manner, using a free email account. The existence of that could place the producers in legal jeopardy regardless of how it was accomplished.

Ted...great points. I had not thought about how easy that would be when I made my post. I am so glad you added that in to the mix.

Michele

[Capt Quirk]

i have done nudity (back when i was young and nothing had dropped)That is funny, because I was thinking about a few celebs who wouldn't do nudity in their younger days, but now that they have aged a bit, they are willing to show the (former) goods.

[Michele Seidman]

That is funny, because I was thinking about a few celebs who wouldn't do nudity in their younger days, but now that they have aged a bit, they are willing to show the (former) goods.


see, that is funny to me. all i could think is "well, at least there will be record of when my ta ta's still looked good! and then they put me up front and my ta tas could be seen and not my head so it could have been a body double. so how do i prove they used to look good...dag nab it!

only way i am doing nudity again is in context of showing an old broad does not always look like the old lady in 'something about mary" ha ha ha. mine may have dropped but it did not turn to leather!

[Capt Quirk]

Hey, MILFs are in vogue these days :)

[PerroneFord]

Unfortunately, good acting is a niche market.


Hey, MILFs are in vogue these days :)

[Charlie06]

"Wow that was a great read, you take direction really well... we need you to take your top off now so that we are sure you don't have some sort of breast deformity..."

Hahahahahahahahahhahahah.
I busted out laughing in class when I read this.

I'll be dealing with nudity on set as well.
Appreciate all of the interesting pointers.
How about in actual production, how should this be handled?

[Capt Quirk]

I'll be dealing with nudity on set as well.
Appreciate all of the interesting pointers.
How about in actual production, how should this be handled?With warm hands?

[Charlie06]

hahahahahahahahahahah

[JonathanLB]

I've done it before... Really no big deal.... Boobs are Boobs..... That's how you have to carry yourself... If your a nervous Nelly.... It shows and the vibe will be as such.

- I wouldn't roll video
- Shoot Polaroid's in the money poses for the scene (if you can't tell from that... you can't tell)
- Make sure talent see the Polaroid's and how many there are. Number them 1of7.... 2of7 ect.
- Put the boob casting pics in a separate envelope for each actress. This shows your pro and you care about the security of there pics.
- If your a male...... Make sure you are never alone with an unknown naked female.
- Keep the wise cracks to yourself. Just like joking with a TSA agent.
- Contact and arrange to have all Polaroid's returned. They have to pick up in person and sign for them.

If you do any less than that... Your an Amateur and you leave yourself open for unnecessary problems.

frisco

I think for a long while I'd be way too nervous to have anything like that in my projects, but thanks for that post because it's very useful for how one would go about it professionally. Great post.

I'm not at the mature stage for a director yet with actors, I can tell that much about myself, because I'm not very comfortable asking actors to do things that I need them to be able to do for the role. I am sure I will get better, but I'm not totally over how weird acting is, i.e. what these people are willing to do for a role and how amazing their jobs are. I had a scene where I needed this guy and girl to be really friendly with one another, like they were just about to go out on a date, she was comfortable with him, him with her, we avoided having a kissing scene, but even just that was hard because to be honest the guy actor was borderline horrible. It was a student production, we had ONE WEEK of pre-production to come up with our idea, write the script, secure locations, and cast. As you can imagine when you're in school for 9-12 hours per day, that doesn't leave you much time to sleep, go to school, AND plan your film. So I more or less chose the only guy I could find on such short notice. What was interesting is he was stiff as a board at the start, and she was not very comfortable with the scene either, but we were just joking around, laughing about it a bit, and my producer suggested a few shots of Johnny Walker first. After about 2-3 shots, I'll be damned if that guy didn't give a pretty natural performance! It was a miracle.

But asking two actors to kiss, who haven't met before that day often times with small shoots, it's very awkward for me. I just feel nervous and guilty and bad about asking for that, even though there is going to come a shoot where I must have them do that. There will be no way around it and if I can't get that as a director out of my actors, I'm a horrible director. But I'm just still getting used to the idea that I'm the one who is freaked out about it, not my actors, haha. I talked to an actress about that and she says it doesn't bother her, it's part of the job, it's no big deal all things considered. But seeing an attractive actress's boobs, uhh, I'd find it hard not to be phased by that. Maybe if I saw more boobs in my personal life... haha, j/k. ;)

[jls4]

But asking two actors to kiss, who haven't met before that day often times with small shoots, it's very awkward for me. I just feel nervous and guilty and bad about asking for that, even though there is going to come a shoot where I must have them do that. There will be no way around it and if I can't get that as a director out of my actors, I'm a horrible director. But I'm just still getting used to the idea that I'm the one who is freaked out about it, not my actors, haha. I talked to an actress about that and she says it doesn't bother her, it's part of the job, it's no big deal all things considered. But seeing an attractive actress's boobs, uhh, I'd find it hard not to be phased by that. Maybe if I saw more boobs in my personal life... haha, j/k. ;)

I guess I'm just weird then. I've never had a problem with asking anybody to kiss. that's a no big deal for me. I've had lots of people kiss, even kiss on the neck, chest and stomach. I've never done a nude scene and I doubt I'll be doing a female version anytime soon. I never feel that "true" nudity adds anything to the piece - it usually takes away from the scene. I feel the same way about about $ex scenes. I'd alude to them, build up - but I don't see myself doing a "real one" anytime soon.

[egyptianboxer104]

The only time a sex/nudity contributes to the film, is if that deals directly to the theme of the film. I am shooting a short that has a makeout scene but it's important because you never see the girl kiss her boyfriend (he's pushing her away) yet she making out with her boyfriends best friend best friend. Some people watching the film may blame the boyfriend some may blame the girl...

[Jason Miller]

nudity may sometimes be required for a film as sometimes is sex scenes, however "the boob shot" never adds to a film, never adds to the story, it just adds to the number of horny guys 12 to 25 who want to pay their 10 bucks to see it. there are beautiful ways to shoot nudity and sex without the actress being nude, and without showing there chest. try it, the only reason any film in the history of man has shows a "boob shot", except the instructional videos for the mamogram machines, is to exploit the actress to get horny viewers.

[Capt Quirk]

nudity may sometimes be required for a film as sometimes is sex scenes, however "the boob shot" never adds to a film, never adds to the story, it just adds to the number of horny guys 12 to 25 who want to pay their 10 bucks to see it. Are you discriminating against those of us that are well past the "12 to 25" age range?

[Jason Miller]

HA you're right I guess we never stop being horny kids at times

[Capt Quirk]

I may be a Senior Member, but I can stick kick your butt, boyo ;)

[Michele Seidman]

Hey, MILFs are in vogue these days :)


woo hoo you mean there is still hope for an old broad? tee hee....problem is we are in vogue and if one more 22 year old tries to bed me down i will just scream. no offense to the young guys but no matter what you think you know...you don't...not yet.

besides..i have a rule i follow on that even if half of hollywood does not

"If it could of come out of me it can't get back in" Michele Seidman

[Capt Quirk]

What a coincidence, I have the same philosophy. But somehow I think it definitely has a different meaning :)

[gi-jones]

"If it could of come out of me it can't get back in" Michele Seidman

Haha, that's priceless :)

[Michele Seidman]

What a coincidence, I have the same philosophy. But somehow I think it definitely has a different meaning :)

omg i almost spit my drink out....uh oh...wait...spit out could have been taken two ways...snicker...guffaw and chortle....ha ha ha


Haha, that's priceless :)

why mr gi jones....thank you. now flash me your ID...lol

[Capt Quirk]

omg i almost spit my drink out....uh oh...wait...spit out could have been taken two ways...snicker...guffaw and chortle....ha ha ha
You keep that up, and there will be trouble ;)

[flnstudios]

"If it could of come out of me it can't get back in" Michele Seidman


Things that make you go hmm, hmm, hmm.:beer:

[Michele Seidman]

You keep that up, and there will be trouble ;)


Things that make you go hmm, hmm, hmm.:beer:

ahhhh...if only my love life was as good as the flirting in here!

sighhh...

[Mattykins]

Michele,

You are in good company. I think it is safe to assume most of our love lives here are severely lacking.

[ot444]

Wow, had not checked this thread for a few days. Thanks for all the replies. Casting is tomorrow and I have a sweet high rise board room where it is taking place. I will have two female casting assistants in the room with me during the auditions. I have emailed every interested actress about the whole topless thing and what to expect.

Suits and ties and professionalism as best we can. Now I just hope the turnout is good. Would hate to be stuck with the 1 girl who showed up the entire 8 hours.

I imagine after going through the first 1-2 girls it should become much easier. I'll report back how it all went.

[JonathanLB]

Michele,

You are in good company. I think it is safe to assume most of our love lives here are severely lacking.

HAHA, no kidding. That's about right. I am in love with filmmaking, and let me tell you she is one controlling, uptight, judgmental witch. I can't get out for one night without her making me pay for it ;)

The last page was priceless. lol, oh man....

As for nudity in films, I have a slightly different opinion on sex and violence. I got my opinion largely from my college film teacher, who made a good point. His argument is there is no such thing as "gratuitous" sex and violence because film is a visual medium, and people like to see both, so you can't have too much of it. By definition it's impossible, in his mind. I'm not that extreme, but I think it's a good argument in the sense that it's not just about storytelling, it's about storytelling with visuals. I want to see hot actresses' boobs, who doesn't?! So if you show me, I'm probably going to be more likely to see your movie. I can guarantee if Jessica Alba had a movie come out where I got to see boobs, I'm going to go see it, even though I think she's a shoddy actress most of the time. Actually she was pretty good in Dark Angel, she's pretty bad in quite a bit else.

Just because you're 35, 45, 55, or whatever, if you're a guy you're not above wanting to see hot girls. My dad is single, he's 66, he loves hot, young girls. Doesn't matter if he's 66, he likes the same type of hot girls he liked when he was 40 years younger. I don't blame him, I'd be the same way. I can only hope I'm still a player when I'm 66, though, haha.

Did seeing Halle Berry's boobs in Swordfish enhance the story? No, but it was eye candy, and there's nothing wrong with that in movies. These aren't novels. They're movies. Much of what I do in a music video is just eye candy, and there's no reason you wouldn't have plenty of that in any form of visual medium. So yeah, seeing a girl's boobs is great, and will sell tickets, and will sell DVDs. It's only natural.

I bought that movie The Dreamers with Eva Green because of her role in Bond and I knew she was totally nude in that film. I saw it, I think it's one messed up, lame film, but still Eva Green is totally nude in it and she's hot. So that was good enough for me.

[Capt Quirk]

ahhhh...if only my love life was as good as the flirting in here!

sighhh...
Hmmm... maybe you just need to have a good reel, like when you are a film maker, editor, or actor. References are everything, ya know?

[Michele Seidman]

Michele,

You are in good company. I think it is safe to assume most of our love lives here are severely lacking.

Hence us being here together all the time...lol


I imagine after going through the first 1-2 girls it should become much easier. I'll report back how it all went.

Keep us posted. We will be waiting for the funny behind the scenes reactions (no names to protect the innocent or topless)


HAHA, no kidding. That's about right. I am in love with filmmaking, and let me tell you she is one controlling, uptight, judgmental witch. I can't get out for one night without her making me pay for it ;)
.

A cruel mistress she is!


Hmmm... maybe you just need to have a good reel, like when you are a film maker, editor, or actor. References are everything, ya know?

Are you offering to shoot one or should I just get all the ex's who call and tell me they miss 'it' to put it on tape and edit it to under 2 minutes? not sure if i can get all the testimonials down short enough for that....

tee hee

[flnstudios]

ahhhh...if only my love life was as good as the flirting in here!

sighhh...

We're in love with our craft and our art... or at least that's what I tell myself in order to justify the time spent behind my camera and in front of my PC.

Thanks for brightening up the forum Michele.

I enjoyed the Michele and the Midnight Blues footage on Youtube.

[ot444]

Ok casting all done. MUCH smaller turnout than expected. Even after many confirmations and interest, only a handful showed up.

Even had one girl show up saying she knew nothing about it being topless. This being her second audition for me where I have her on the first tape saying "no problem to toplessness" Not to mention I had a detailed section on what the nudity included with the emails I sent out. Oh well, strange.

As for the others, most of them were fairly new to acting and either had very few or never auditioned before at all. I was thinking that now these new girls will think this is how all auditions go. It will be easier for the next guy they audition for. Hah.

So they would come in and read, we would try a few things. I had them scream a few times (horror movie). I had two female assistants and my producer who was running a camera during the auditions. At the end one of the girls simply said "Can you please remove your top for us." Simple as that. Most simply said sure and did it. Others that had a question or two were explained that it was important to make sure that they were comfortable being topless around a small crew.

I guess overall we just need a bigger budget to get more women out that are willing to be topless. Even the strip clubs only produced one girl for us.

Anyways it was fun and maybe this info is helpful to others in my situation.

[JonathanLB]

haha, that's still awesome though. I need to hold some auditions like this, lord knows I might not see another topless girl any other way for a while. ;)

[Capt Quirk]

haha, that's still awesome though. I need to hold some auditions like this, lord knows I might not see another topless girl any other way for a while. ;)
What's next? Shooting phony shorts, just so that you can cast yourself in the love scenes?

[flnstudios]

Even had one girl show up saying she knew nothing about it being topless. This being her second audition for me where I have her on the first tape saying "no problem to toplessness" Not to mention I had a detailed section on what the nudity included with the emails I sent out. Oh well, strange.




It just goes to show that most people don't read emails.

It's amazing to me how often people claim to have no knowledge of clearly outlined requirements even though they had been given explicit instructions.

Did email girl remove her top?

[Capt Quirk]

Are you offering to shoot one or should I just get all the ex's who call and tell me they miss 'it' to put it on tape and edit it to under 2 minutes? not sure if i can get all the testimonials down short enough for that....

tee hee
Honestly I wasn't offering anything... but, "Have Camera, Will Travel" is my motto. Well, that and "Anything, anywhere, anytime, just as long as it doesn't include kids or animals" :)

[ot444]

Did email girl remove her top?

I assume you meant this girl that said "she didn't know". No she did not. She was about to read and I told her if she was not comfortable with the topless thing then there really was no reason for her to read for me once again.

[Capt Quirk]

I assume you meant this girl that said "she didn't know". No she did not. She was about to read and I told her if she was not comfortable with the topless thing then there really was no reason for her to read for me once again.
Nicely handled. It is amazing how many will try to sell you on something other than what you want.

[Michele Seidman]

We're in love with our craft and our art... or at least that's what I tell myself in order to justify the time spent behind my camera and in front of my PC.

Thanks for brightening up the forum Michele.

I enjoyed the Michele and the Midnight Blues footage on Youtube.

At least our crafts make us happy! and how cool you went and looked at the band footage! thank you for doing that and the sweet comment!


Ok casting all done. MUCH smaller turnout than expected. Even after many confirmations and interest, only a handful showed up.

That is a problem with indie projects and not just for talent willing to do partial nudity. If there is no real budget the actor/actress has to weigh in their head...is it worth possibly losing my waitress/mechanic/what ever gig just to go read for a project that can't pay me enough to pay rent.

It is a constant problem which is why I always try to find something to pay them and seldom cast projects where there is not pay involved.


What's next? Shooting phony shorts, just so that you can cast yourself in the love scenes?

Quirk

To this day I have serious questions on a 'supposed' music video casting call. The guy paid me good money to do the casting sessions for him. He gave me what I needed to rent the location and pay for the camera guy and all of the above....like anyone should.

But to this day I can't help but wonder if he paid to make his own 'wank' footage for home and just happened to have the money to throw around. No nudity in the auditions but he did have some peculiar requests on how we shot the footage that just makes me go hmmmmm and still wonder 10 years later.

Does not help that I never saw a video that included his concept!



Honestly I wasn't offering anything... but, "Have Camera, Will Travel" is my motto. Well, that and "Anything, anywhere, anytime, just as long as it doesn't include kids or animals" :)

lol leaving that alone now!

[Capt Quirk]

To this day I have serious questions on a 'supposed' music video casting call. The guy paid me good money to do the casting sessions for him. He gave me what I needed to rent the location and pay for the camera guy and all of the above....like anyone should.

But to this day I can't help but wonder if he paid to make his own 'wank' footage for home and just happened to have the money to throw around. No nudity in the auditions but he did have some peculiar requests on how we shot the footage that just makes me go hmmmmm and still wonder 10 years later.

Does not help that I never saw a video that included his concept! What difference does it make? A job is a job if it pays, and as long as you don't feel you crossed any moral, ethical, or legal lines. God knows I have done things I wasn't overly proud of, but I never crossed those lines and made some money.



lol leaving that alone now! Coward ;)

[flnstudios]

But to this day I can't help but wonder if he paid to make his own 'wank' footage for home and just happened to have the money to throw around. No nudity in the auditions but he did have some peculiar requests on how we shot the footage that just makes me go hmmmmm and still wonder 10 years later.

Does not help that I never saw a video that included his concept!


It wouldn't surprise me if it was his own 'wank' footage.

Living in NY, more and more I'm convinced that there really is an *ss for every seat.

[Michele Seidman]

What difference does it make? A job is a job if it pays, and as long as you don't feel you crossed any moral, ethical, or legal lines. God knows I have done things I wasn't overly proud of, but I never crossed those lines and made some money.

Coward ;)

I only felt worry because of all the women who were on the audition tape if it ever got in the wrong hands or was used for some underground video company. Imagine that I found out he was selling the tapes...then all those actresses would never come to any audition I held if they thought that could happen again.

So, in my book...if it was for home wank..I deal...but if he sold it to anyone else he put my reputation on the line for future work. That alone is why it concerned me. So far it has not popped up anywhere..

and Coward..lol...no...last person you ever want to say that about but felt I was hijacking too much of the thread off topic too far! Coward never...fair woman...always!

[Capt Quirk]

I only felt worry because of all the women who were on the audition tape if it ever got in the wrong hands or was used for some underground video company.

So, in my book...if it was for home wank..I deal...but if he sold it to anyone else he put my reputation on the line for future work. That alone is why it concerned me. So far it has not popped up anywhere..Fair enough, I hadn't considered the actresses. But you also said their wasn't any nudity, so how bad could it have been?


and Coward..lol...no...last person you ever want to say that about but felt I was hijacking too much of the thread off topic too far! Coward never...fair woman...always!Then start another thread :thumbsup:

[JonathanLB]

To this day I have serious questions on a 'supposed' music video casting call. The guy paid me good money to do the casting sessions for him. He gave me what I needed to rent the location and pay for the camera guy and all of the above....like anyone should.

But to this day I can't help but wonder if he paid to make his own 'wank' footage for home and just happened to have the money to throw around. No nudity in the auditions but he did have some peculiar requests on how we shot the footage that just makes me go hmmmmm and still wonder 10 years later.

Haha, now I'm curious, first of all I can't imagine anyone actually doing that, but I guess you never know. But what do you mean peculiar requests? Like BDSM type of stuff?! haha, j/k

On indie casting, I find the actors and actresses so far to be the most flaky of people involved in production, I hate to say that, but anyone who has flaked on me as far as crew had really legitimate reasons (blizzard, stuck in Chicago airport, can't get a ticket tonight but will try to get in before shooting tomorrow, just wanted to let you know, etc.), whereas the actors and actresses just haven't shown up. When I upped the pay, like on my training video shoot, it wasn't much but it was like $525 for 2 days, everyone showed up to the auditions. Nobody skipped. That isn't great pay but it's better than the $100/day to free range. ;)

On the short I just finished a first draft for, I have my first kissing scene and it's not just a kissing scene it's kind of a mad makeout session. It needs to be there, in my opinion, because it's hilarious in the context. I also figured, eh, I'll have to deal with this crap eventually may as well put it in my short so I can get some experience. But considering the actors and actresses I know, I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be a bad idea (just because these two characters have only a few lines each) if they were actually boyfriend-girlfriend. I'm taking the easy way out of I do that, but it's going to be so funny otherwise, what a strange job acting is. I haven't dated a girl in a year, so I haven't even kissed a girl in a year, and yet an actor could show up and it's like, "Hey, yeah, here's your makeout scene, oh by the way this is the actress, Amy, who you'll be kissing. Act like it's great." Haha, what a profession.

[Michele Seidman]

Fair enough, I hadn't considered the actresses. But you also said their wasn't any nudity, so how bad could it have been?
Then start another thread :thumbsup:

No nudity but there were balloons....too long a story and as for another thread...is there a area on dvx for 'not on topic, not on film not related at all'? lol


Haha, now I'm curious, first of all I can't imagine anyone actually doing that, but I guess you never know. But what do you mean peculiar requests? Like BDSM type of stuff?! haha, j/k

On indie casting, I find the actors and actresses so far to be the most flaky of people involved in production, I hate to say that, but anyone who has flaked on me as far as crew had really legitimate reasons (blizzard, stuck in Chicago airport, can't get a ticket tonight but will try to get in before shooting tomorrow, just wanted to let you know, etc.), whereas the actors and actresses just haven't shown up.

As mentioned above...long story but balloons involved.

As for flaky...since I am an actress I hate to admit so many of them are flakes but it is partly why most of my real friends are outside the business.

But please make note...production can be just as flaky!

I once had an audition in Charlotte (3 1/2 hours away) that I went to on a Wednesday. They said if they needed me back it would be in a week. So, I went to NYC on Thursday because I thought they would not try to get up with me for a week. On Friday my agent called me at 9pm and said they wanted to see me on Saturday. They had changed their minds on call back dates last minute.

I drove from NYC back to Wilmington over night (10-11 hours), changed clothing, got in the car and drove another 3 and a half hours and went to the call back on Saturday...on time!

Then they decided to go a totally different direction with the casting. Altered the role from my age, white female to 10 years younger, black female.

Who flaked on that one? Not the talent! I was there and on time even after they changed things with no regard to what they told all the talent. My agent even told them I had gone to NYC, so they knew I turned around and drove some 15 hours to get back on time only for them to make a last minute alteration on the character.

Flakes sit on both sides of the table darling! It IS after all, the creative world we live in!

:)

Michele

[Capt Quirk]

Balloon fetishes are out there next to smoking and feet.

[Michele Seidman]

Balloon fetishes are out there next to smoking and feet.


See! I did have reason for concern!

lol..just glad to know my worry was with reason!

[Capt Quirk]

Any stepping on them, or popping them?

[Michele Seidman]

Any stepping on them, or popping them?


lmao

can't answer this for fear of sending someone somewhere off for a wank...lol...chortle and guffaw!

[Capt Quirk]

lmao

...lol...chortle and guffaw!
No snort?

[Michele Seidman]

No snort?

nope...but i'll give ya a snicker!

:):grin:

[Capt Quirk]

Mmmm... Snickers :)

[ZazaCast]

Get a room!

...and what was this post about...topless balloon wanking?:)

[gi-jones]

Balloons???? WHAT?

It's a big world out there.

[Michele Seidman]

Balloons???? WHAT?

It's a big world out there.

lol yes it is! ha ha ha. i can just imagine the look on your face when you typed that! tee hee....

[flnstudios]

nope...but i'll give ya a snicker!

:):grin:


Isn't there a rumor about Mick Jagger, Marianne Faithful and a Snickers?

[Ted Spencer]

In a Monty Python episode, this is about the point where Graham Chapman would step in, in a police uniform, and 'arrest' the actors saying "that'll be all now...move along...this is much too silly".

As you were...

[Capt Quirk]

I have a feeling this is only the tip of the Silly Iceberg...

[Michele Seidman]

Get a room!

...and what was this post about...topless balloon wanking?:)

ZazaCast...ha ha ha. lmao. roflmao. how did i miss this...chortling still!


Isn't there a rumor about Mick Jagger, Marianne Faithful and a Snickers?

Why, I think you are right flnstudios. The dark places people explore...ewww.


In a Monty Python episode, this is about the point where Graham Chapman would step in, in a police uniform, and 'arrest' the actors saying "that'll be all now...move along...this is much too silly".

As you were...

One would only have one recourse with the 'Bobby' and it would be, "Is there ever too much silly really?"...chuckle


I have a feeling this is only the tip of the Silly Iceberg...

Only the 'tip' of the silly...lol tip...even I caught that on a 'topless thread'.

Ha ha ha so glad I checked in. Thank you all so very much for the giggles and laughter.:laugh::Drogar-BigGrin(DBG):2vrolijk_08::happy::grin:

[Capt Quirk]

I'm just bouncing back the punchlines... you know, tit for tat?

[Michele Seidman]

I'm just bouncing back the punchlines... you know, tit for tat?


setting me up? dag nab it....

me:engel017:<walking away while i can...lol

[Capt Quirk]

setting me up? dag nab it....

Me? Never... but while we are at it, you wanna see my tats?

[Michele Seidman]

Me? Never... but while we are at it, you wanna see my tats?

see...lol...snicker..you just aint fair!

[Capt Quirk]

How can you accuse me of not being fair? Did you want to go first?:tongue:

[Michele Seidman]

How can you accuse me of not being fair? Did you want to go first?:tongue:

If the woman is happy, everyone is happy...so of course I want to 'go' first....ha ha ha

[Capt Quirk]

"How dare you fart before me?"
"Sorry Baby, I didn't know it was your turn."

[Michele Seidman]

"How dare you fart before me?"
"Sorry Baby, I didn't know it was your turn."

well, if you would only pony up for a good meal instead of fast food....lol

[Capt Quirk]

How can you call the Whopper fast food? :)

[Michele Seidman]

How can you call the Whopper fast food? :)

oh yeah, you say 'whopper' in front of all your friends when you know it was a kids meal!

snicker

[Capt Quirk]

Kids meal? You like the toys, don't you?

[Michele Seidman]

Kids meal? You like the toys, don't you?

dang...how do you know me so well?

[Capt Quirk]

Coincidence I'm sure ;)

[Michele Seidman]

lol sure sure...you been reading my diary again!

[Capt Quirk]

I would never do anything like that... just the juicy parts with pictures ;)

[Tom Marshall]

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[Michele Seidman]

I would never do anything like that... just the juicy parts with pictures ;)

ha ha ha...that is why those photos felt sticky....ewwwwww


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lol....yes it is...but blame Quirk, he started it. That, or you have to come protect me!

[ZazaCast]

Somebody... quick... write a part for this fine actress! She needs something better to do with her time.

(If only you were East Coast...I'd keep you busy)

[Michele Seidman]

Somebody... quick... write a part for this fine actress! She needs something better to do with her time.

(If only you were East Coast...I'd keep you busy)

lol....i AM East Coast...keep me busy. My shoulder surgery has kept me home bound for too long and therapy is half way over. I am even out of my sling now...

use me...lol...dag nab it ya can't say a think like that and not follow up...ha ha ha problem is...with the tone of the thread once Quirk got started I have minor fear about what you meant by 'keep you busy'

ha ha ha

[Tom Marshall]

ha ha ha...that is why those photos felt sticky....ewwwwww



lol....yes it is...but blame Quirk, he started it. That, or you have to come protect me!

Yeah, he might have started it, but you're keeping it going... photos felt sticky? Good heavens... :laugh:

But I will take him out if I have to. I am the "Accidental Hitman" after all. :thumbsup:

[Michele Seidman]

Yeah, he might have started it, but you're keeping it going... photos felt sticky? Good heavens... :laugh:

But I will take him out if I have to. I am the "Accidental Hitman" after all. :thumbsup:

ha ha ha too cute. ok...i may have helped but he baited me too well...i mean when you throw tuna on the line instead of minhaden i get hungry....snicker chortle and guffaw!

Michele <now hiding behind Tom....lol

[Capt Quirk]

But I will take him out if I have to.
Um... Thanks, but it could never lead anywhere. I'm not that kind of guy ;)

And you have a lot of nerve blaming all of this on me Michelle! You started it, not me... I just never pass up a good line ;)

[ZazaCast]

lol....i AM East Coast...keep me busy. My shoulder surgery has kept me home bound for too long and therapy is half way over. I am even out of my sling now...

use me...lol...dag nab it ya can't say a think like that and not follow up...ha ha ha problem is...with the tone of the thread once Quirk got started I have minor fear about what you meant by 'keep you busy'

ha ha ha

Oh I see... my eye was drawn to the 'Hollywood' in your profile location. This is very good to know.

...as far as keep you busy... I meant acting. :)
(not all of us have our minds completely in the gutter)

[Capt Quirk]

...as far as keep you busy... I meant acting. :)
(not all of us have our minds completely in the gutter)
And what exactly do you mean by "acting"?:huh:

[Michele Seidman]

And you have a lot of nerve blaming all of this on me Michelle! You started it, not me... I just never pass up a good line ;)

Un huh...sure sure...now you turn it on me. lol...


Oh I see... my eye was drawn to the 'Hollywood' in your profile location. This is very good to know. ...as far as keep you busy... I meant acting. :) (not all of us have our minds completely in the gutter)

ha ha ha dag nab that gutter. actually the profile says 'Where the Carolina Moon meets the Hollywood Stars!'....aka Wilmywood...it is a play on words because we shoot so many projects here year round. i am smack dab in the middle of the east coast. short hope to NY or Florida from here!