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Tom Marshall
07-25-2008, 08:09 PM
I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in an acting forum here. I know there are a few actors beside myself and I, for one, would love to have it.

The directing forum has a few acting related threads, but I think it would be cool to have a forum just for acting.

What do you guys think?

Nathyn
07-25-2008, 08:17 PM
Makes sense to me.

-Nate

Anhar Miah
07-25-2008, 08:33 PM
I put down yes,

And you know what the funny thing is? we have a camera/lights/script sections, but no acting section, d'oh!

excellent idea!

GageFX
07-25-2008, 08:40 PM
If it will get you out of the non-acting forums, then I vote yes.

ryan brown
07-25-2008, 08:45 PM
Hmmm... I usually always vote no for these things, but this one just makes sense.

I don't act, but I'd love to have a place to go when I have questions for actors (i.e. which would you personally find more helpful? direction A... or direction B)

I vote yes.

Jason Ramsey
07-25-2008, 08:45 PM
I would love to have one myself... not sure the demand will be great enough though... We shall see.

Later,
Jason

Rakesh Jacob
07-25-2008, 08:46 PM
Because it's you asking... DEFINITELY!

ConspiracyPenguin
07-25-2008, 09:10 PM
Tommy, this is funny because it wasn't too long ago that I, myself, was thinking "You know what we need here...an acting forum." My thought process was there is a forum here for everyone, I can go into the screenplay forum to satisfy the writing part of my film making job choices, but there is no where for me to go as an actor. We have everything else related to film making, why not acting?

So, in conclusion, I obviously voted no.

(Since this is a public poll I assume there is no need for a :grin: to indicate that I am joking about voting no. Because I was. I voted yes. Wow, that was a lot more work than just putting down the damn smiley in the first place.)

GageFX
07-25-2008, 09:42 PM
I think that acting should just go in the EFFECTS forum since you guys will be replaced soon anyway.


(And everything else is grouped in there.)

Tom Marshall
07-25-2008, 09:42 PM
That ain't right... :cheesy:


Anyway, the thing that gets me when I'm searching new threads or something is "OK, cameras... don't need to know anything, can't offer any advice... Hmm... audio... same... editing... same... etc."

I'll post in the Photoshop thread every now and then because I know a little bit about Photoshop.

If there was an acting forum, I might actually be able to offer some advice to people regarding something I know.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-25-2008, 11:52 PM
I think that acting should just go in the EFFECTS forum since you guys will be replaced soon anyway.


(And everything else is grouped in there.)

Kiss my arse!

On a serious note, Tommy, I agree. I look around and I think "Well, I can't help with technical stuff...audio...etc..." Luckily I write so I can post in there and I keep up with the fests and the Café, an acting forum would give me one more reason for me to be here. Not that I need reasons to be here, but to show the mods that I actually have something worthwhile to say which might keep me around for a bit longer.

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 12:49 AM
Yeah, Nick, you have the writing forum. I'm not a writer so I can't even visit that forum to offer advice or anything. I'm pretty much stuck in the cafe and the festival forums (and Photoshop)

triplej96
07-26-2008, 12:56 AM
Seems like a good idea I'm no actor my self but it makes sense a film forum would have a acting forum. I guess it all comes down to how many actors we have here other wise it will may end up being the Tom Marshall forum + acting :)

In all seriousness though I think a acting forum would be good!

Norm Sanders
07-26-2008, 01:18 AM
You freakin' actors, always having to have something else for you & your little diva attitudes!

KIDDING!

Yes, I think it'd be a swell idea as it would just help to further round out what DVXuser has become ... a filmmakers resource for learning AND networking!

Having good talent be a part of your project is extremely important, and I'm positive there would be value in such a forum.

Gord.T
07-26-2008, 01:18 AM
I'm no actor either but would like to get some insight as to what they discuss.

Jared Meyer
07-26-2008, 01:31 AM
I think acting threads fit pretty well in the Directing forum. Definitely a very small niche among the tech heads and production people on this site.

I've acted plenty, and love it, but it doesn't seem like there'd be that much to talk about... ?

And hey, if we can't even get a wedding/events videography sub-forum going...If that's not a video production topic, I don't know what is. :cheesy:

Jared Meyer
07-26-2008, 01:34 AM
I'm not going to vote No though. Looks like I'm the Debbie Downer in the group. :)

http://www.wrensnestonline.com/blog/wp-content/debbie_downer.jpg

Simon Höfer
07-26-2008, 04:03 AM
Definitely yes! Even though there are not so many actors around right now, such a subforum might attract more actors in the future. That's often a weak part in indie films, the lack of good actors.

Jeff Anderson
07-26-2008, 05:40 AM
I think its a great idea. Coming from the other side of the fence not knowing squat about acting I think it would be a great way to learn a little more.

seunosewa
07-26-2008, 06:10 AM
I support that.

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 11:02 AM
I think acting threads fit pretty well in the Directing forum.

Acting is completely different than directing. I have no interest in directing, but I'll pursue this acting thing till the day I die. True, if a director has done some acting, it might help him be a better director, but that's not always the case.

I think acting related posts in the director's forum are for directors who need help working with actors. That's it. What about us actors who have a question about acting and would like a forum just for that purpose? What about classes? What about auditioning advice? And I'm not talking about someone who's holding the casting session.

If these questions have a place to be addressed, it could very well bring in more people to the dvxuser who are primarily actors who also want to learn about the technical issues involved with filmmaking. Maybe they're an actor who wants to shoot something, but they know zilch about audio or cameras or what-have-you...


Definitely a very small niche among the tech heads and production people on this site.And I think that's a problem. I think if dvxuser's expanded their views on acting, which some completely dismiss, then it will obviously make a better finished product. I realize quite a few people around here have zero interest in acting, but it quite obvious if the acting in a short or feature has no focus.


I've acted plenty, and love it, but it doesn't seem like there'd be that much to talk about... ?There'd be plenty to discuss. I've been a camera man before on a couple of different shoots and I don't think there's much to talk about. Why? It doesn't interest me running a camera. I don't care about different settings. Your acting experiences might be the same way. Sure, you might enjoy doing it, but for some of us, it's the most incredible experience you could possibly have. I think there's a definite need to discuss it.


And hey, if we can't even get a wedding/events videography sub-forum going...If that's not a video production topic, I don't know what is. :cheesy:Well, again, weddings are a technical issue of filmmaking with aspects that easily fit into well defined categories amongst the different forums already in place. Question about white balance at a wedding? Cameras. Question about audio? Audio... etc.

Anhar Miah
07-26-2008, 11:46 AM
What about virtual casting? this could be possible within an acting forum that could cater for it with the help of youtube et al. .

ugafan
07-26-2008, 11:49 AM
dvxuser.com -- the online community for filmmaking

actors are vital to filmmaking. i vote yes. :beer:

Ki-Ki
07-26-2008, 12:16 PM
100% Yes.

If anything it would provide usefull & new talent for the DVX - Fests, plus it'd brig more experiance and members to the forum.

Mattykins
07-26-2008, 12:34 PM
I say yes.

Since all of us tech and us creative people have nothing without actors.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 01:02 PM
...And hey, if we can't even get a wedding/events videography sub-forum going...If that's not a video production topic, I don't know what is. :cheesy:

Here is my theory on that. I agree with Tom that you can already discuss the elements of wedding videography in the current sub-forums. Further, if you are going to be specific for weddings, then you would have to open up sub forums for short film videography, feature film videography, school play videography, etc, etc...

It simply does not make sense to have an entire sub-forum dedicated to weddings. But acting is a different story. We have every aspect of film making except that one. I already have a few ideas for threads I would start but I am keeping those to myself until Jason caves in and opens the forum. Let's just hope i don't get yelled at for opening a bunch of threads.

Jared Meyer
07-26-2008, 01:32 PM
Further, if you are going to be specific for weddings, then you would have to open up sub forums for short film videography, feature film videography, school play videography, etc, etc...


Well the powers that be don't HAVE to do anything. To their infinite credit, the site runs very well without the creation of any of the new subforums that have been proposed over the last few months - Weddings/Events, Production/Art Design, and now Acting. None of these have been created and I doubt they will be. Which is fine. Totally the prerogative of Jarred and the admins here.

As to an acting section, I'm only curious about its place on this forum, which, like I said, has seemed always to be geared towards the content creators and not the talent. Nobody answered my question so I'm still not sure what kind of threads would populate it, or if there are that many actors that would come here to discuss acting technique. It's a far cry from the technical nature of the site. Is the site trying to get away from that? Should it be? I have no idea.

Anyway, it's moot, IMO, to say, well then you'd have to have x, y, and z....So if there's an acting forum does there have to be a Makeup/Hair/Costume forum? Craft services?

I was a proponent of a wedding/event subforum because, while it may not be as glamorous a topic as cinematography or screenwriting, it has ultimate practical application for many video folks here. Many if not all of the shooting, lighting, audio, editing, business elements of weddings and events are quite particular to weddings and events. That said, there's a pretty active W/E section at dvinfo. Not the end of the world if dvxuser doesn't add one.

I do think it would be nice if the creation of the W/E subforum and the Art Design forum, both of which were brought up long before this thread, was addressed first.

My 2 cents.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 01:39 PM
It's a far cry from the technical nature of the site.

I agree. There is absolutely nothing technical about acting. It's just a bunch whiny artsy fartsy types that are too self important to realize that the admins dont HAVE to do anything. They dont.

I'm content to not have actors in my films. Maybe you guys should get a real job.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 01:48 PM
I think your opinion that there doesnt need to be an acting subforum is duly noted. I dont think it necessary to campaign against one.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 02:30 PM
...I was a proponent of a wedding/event subforum because, while it may not be as glamorous a topic as cinematography or screenwriting, it has ultimate practical application for many video folks here. Many if not all of the shooting, lighting, audio, editing, business elements of weddings and events are quite particular to weddings and events. That said, there's a pretty active W/E section at dvinfo. Not the end of the world if dvxuser doesn't add one...

It doesn't matter how glamorous a topic is, my point is simply that anything you could possible say about wedding videography could be put into one of the current categories. That being said, I do not shoot weddings, I am an actor and I am a writer, so if there is something I don't know then, by all means, enlighten me. :)

Gage, just for that remark I will never act in anything for you...EVER.

Just kidding. :D You doing anything for the fest? I am available. Just cart me down there and throw lines at me.

Jared Meyer
07-26-2008, 02:38 PM
I think your opinion that there doesn't need to be an acting subforum is duly noted. I don't think it necessary to campaign against one.

I don't think I ever said there shouldn't be one. I did pose a few questions. Hardly constitutes a "campaign."

I also don't think you were around when we were talking about the other potential sub-forums some months ago, so much of my post probably didn't have any relevance for you. No worries.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 02:41 PM
I am terribly new here. Just a couple weeks.

Did I commit a faux pas?

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 02:54 PM
Umm... what's technical about writing? I realize your answer would be along the lines of, say, act structure, overall story arc, character arc, etc.

I think the technicalities in writing are similar to that types of technicalities with acting. Character development, character arc, etc.

We have a writing sub-forum, do we not?

I really don't think it's fair to compare acting to makeup/costumes/hair... I mean, come on...

Jared Meyer
07-26-2008, 02:59 PM
I wasn't diminishing acting by comparing it to hair/makeup. Maybe it was a poor analogy. I was pointing out the lack of logic in saying that if x subforum is created, y subforum must be created. Which is what Penguin said.


Further, if you are going to be specific for weddings, then you would have to open up sub forums for short film videography, feature film videography, school play videography, etc, etc...

Which makes no sense. So maybe it wasn't that bad of an analogy after all. :)

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 03:01 PM
I think acting is an intergral part of filmmaking... if you've got no budget, you go without makeup or hair... try going without actors (or bad actors) and see how it turns out.

I know where you're coming from, but I disagree. I think it's important to put much more emphasis on acting.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 03:04 PM
Makeup Artists and Hair Stylists are hacks.

So unnecessary.

I wish they would stop thinking that what they do is important.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 03:26 PM
I am terribly new here. Just a couple weeks.

Did I commit a faux pas?

:grin: Yes, because February of 2006 is VERY new...


I wasn't diminishing acting by comparing it to hair/makeup. Maybe it was a poor analogy. I was pointing out the lack of logic in saying that if x subforum is created, y subforum must be created. Which is what Penguin said.
...

Which makes no sense. So maybe it wasn't that bad of an analogy after all. :)

I still stand by my claim. Wedding videography is just a subset of videography as a whole, which we cover by way of audio, cinematography, directing, etc...

It would be like asking to add a nature videography sub forum and a foreign travel videography sub forum and a vacation videography sub forum and on and on and on...

Acting is an integral part of film making, just as much as screen writing, directing and everything else that we already have. It only makes sense to add acting because it is basically the "meat" of a film. I mean sure, the script is the foundation but without good actors what do you have? Shit. You see? You NEED actors, you don't NEED make up artists. I saw your point to an extent, but I still think I am right with this.

Anhar Miah
07-26-2008, 03:40 PM
....and

"Lights, Camera, Action!" doesn't work as well without actors..

we have a Lights forum, we have camera forum, now lets have a actor forum :)

GageFX
07-26-2008, 03:42 PM
I think since it's all filmmaking, there shouldnt be any sub forums. Just one "Filmmaking" forum. That will keep all these crazy, self-important people from asking for their own section.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 04:04 PM
I think since it's all filmmaking, there shouldnt be any sub forums. Just one "Filmmaking" forum. That will keep all these crazy, self-important people from asking for their own section.

Christ that would be insane. You know how hard it would be to find posts that are worthy of a witty Penguin response? Waaay hard. No can do.

Jeff Anderson
07-26-2008, 04:09 PM
Christ that would be insane. You know how hard it would be to find posts that are worthy of a witty Penguin response? Waaay hard. No can do.

so you're saying you wouldnt post as much if it was just one forum... hmmmm... All you mods need to be taking notes about that one. Could easily solve your "how do we get rid of Penguin" problem you all have been working on :)

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 05:22 PM
so you're saying you wouldnt post as much if it was just one forum... hmmmm... All you mods need to be taking notes about that one. Could easily solve your "how do we get rid of Penguin" problem you all have been working on :)

Dammit! I knew it! I knew it! Tommy was right, there ARE secret discussions about how to get rid of me...

And Jeff, I know you are kidding. Just like I did last time. :thumbsup:

Oh, and I didn't say I wouldn't post as much (did I? :huh:) I said it would be more difficult.

Jeff Anderson
07-26-2008, 05:26 PM
Dammit! I knew it! I knew it! Tommy was right, there ARE secret discussions about how to get rid of me...

And Jeff, I know you are kidding. Just like I did last time. :thumbsup:

Oh, and I didn't say I wouldn't post as much (did I? :huh:) I said it would be more difficult.

No there are no secret discussions. They're all held quite publicly at the bottom of posts in gray. You just need to go through and read all the posts made by the mods in past few months and you'll see what I'm talking about. Granted its probably only twenty posts or so that specifically talk about you, but it should only take you a few weeks of searching to find them. Perhaps this will keep him busy...

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 08:27 PM
I love the gray font trick. Those sneaky bastards putting it right in front of my eyes the whole time. I will find what they said right now...

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 08:54 PM
So does that make me the greatest person in the universe?

Jeff Anderson
07-26-2008, 09:00 PM
So does that make me the greatest person in the universe?

You'd definitely be up for nomination...

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 09:03 PM
Thanks, Jeff. :beer:

GageFX
07-26-2008, 09:09 PM
No. Because I was the first to respond to him.

Jeff Anderson
07-26-2008, 09:10 PM
Back to the thread - any mod input on if this could happen? I'm of the camp that has no clue what actors might talk about, but wants to know. Not discounting your craft Tom (or any other actors), I just no so little about acting that I wouldnt even know what the questions would be. Interested to learn more though.

You may get the win just for starting the thread that could begin the demise of Penguin's out of control posting habits. I just hope he is highlighting everything now and reads this. Bark like my dog if you read this Penguin.

Jeff Anderson
07-26-2008, 09:11 PM
No. Because I was the first to respond to him.

Only a nomination. Guess we'll have to start a new thread. Who's cooler -GageFX vs Tom the actor that wants his own forum.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 09:12 PM
I think the topic is dead. Jared doesnt want one. Could you hear penguin bark?

GageFX
07-26-2008, 09:13 PM
Oh. no, no,no .... Tommy is way COOLER. That wasn't for debate.

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 09:16 PM
I don't think the topic is dead at all. I think there's a chance it might happen.

Jeff Anderson
07-26-2008, 09:18 PM
Oh. no, no,no .... Tommy is way COOLER. That wasn't for debate.
Oh good point. I mean he is an actor... thats instant cool points. I heard he used to have really cool hair too. he's practically a legend. who is GREATER then. Penguin can judge. Judge away penguin.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 09:22 PM
There is a "definitely" vote from the Greatest Forum Administrator in the Universe". That's a good sign.

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 09:24 PM
There is a "definitely" vote from the Greatest Forum Administrator in the Universe". That's a good sign.

Yep. And it's at 75% Definitely...

and the "Sure, why not?" is a yes... not as strong as definitely though...

GageFX
07-26-2008, 09:27 PM
I take the "sure, why not" as a non-vote.

And what is an "ehh..."?

GageFX
07-26-2008, 09:28 PM
It's possible that you could have had a 94.5% YES if you just did "Yes" and "No".

Jeff Anderson
07-26-2008, 09:28 PM
forgot to answer earlier question Gage - not yet. Must've hit bedtime or something.

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 09:34 PM
Sure, why not? is yes. That would be cool. I wouldn't necessarily visit, but I'm for it

Ehh is take it or leave it. I don't care one way or the other.


I don't think it's a yes or no question...

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 09:36 PM
...You may get the win just for starting the thread that could begin the demise of Penguin's out of control posting habits. I just hope he is highlighting everything now and reads this. Bark like my dog if you read this Penguin.

Bark! Bark! Wait...out of control? :huh:


So does that make me the greatest person in the universe?

No, but congrats on finding that. You are the second person. :thumbsup:


No. Because I was the first to respond to him.

Remind me to add "liar" to my increasingly larger list of negative personality traits of yours.

Oh, and don't think I didn't notice that hidden remark. I would add "bitch" to the list too, but that's been on there for a long time.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 10:17 PM
Sure, why not? is yes. That would be cool. I wouldn't necessarily visit, but I'm for it

Ehh is take it or leave it. I don't care one way or the other.

They both sound equally indifferent to me. Either you think there should be one, or you think there shouldn't. If you are indifferent, the vote doesnt really matter.



Remind me to add "liar" to my increasingly larger list of negative personality traits of yours.

No sir. I never said I PMed you, I immediately responded in my sig line.


Re: Mattykins. Matt, my friend, you need to get some better spirits because that generic Vodka is gooping up your circuits. That is one of the goofiest posts ever.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 10:26 PM
...No sir. I never said I PMed you, I immediately responded in my sig line...

Ah, my bad then. I noted your rude and disrespectful signature, but did not consider it a response until now. I understand and would like to respectfully withdraw my accusation that you are a liar. The bitch remark still stands, however.

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 10:28 PM
They both sound equally indifferent to me. Either you think there should be one, or you think there shouldn't. If you are indifferent, the vote doesnt really matter.

When you do your poll, you can have "yes" or "no". Mine has four. That's what I wanted, so that's why it has four.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 10:29 PM
...rude and disrespectful signature...

You, sir, dont know a compliment when you read one.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 10:32 PM
When you do your poll, you can have "yes" or "no". Mine has four. That's what I wanted, so that's why it has four.


That's fine, but you gave up possible votes to 2 other categories. You went from 50% odds down to 25%.

MY poll will certainly be better thought out. (I'm just gonna have ONE option - for whatever it is I want. Probably root beer.)

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 10:37 PM
I've been thinking about a poll for about a week now. It was planned out. I think it accurately depicts peoples ideas for a new forum.

I don't like "yes" or "no" polls. If I see one, I don't vote because it doesn't accurately depict a valid choice for a lot of the people who would possibly vote. What if something thinks it would be a cool idea? That would be choice 2, "Sure, why not". It's not a "yes" or "definitely". It's "Yeah, that would be cool." I want the poll to be as accurate as possible. :dankk2:

Jason Ramsey
07-26-2008, 10:40 PM
It would be very easy to talk me into this, given that I love acting... :)

But, I want to hear from everyone on this of course, since the site is for you guys.

What I would love about an acting forum:
Acting is very much tied to filmmaking.

There may not be much insight into actors, acting and their process from those who don't do it.

I could see a lot of the traffic initially being from directors. That's a good thing.

I could see some actors on the site coming out of the closet, maybe some more finding it down the road as a result.

I could see fest participants being more able to find actors that want to participate in their films, and hopefully up the quality of the films in the fest as a whole. The acting (on the whole) is one of the weaker aspects of the fest films... At least in my opinion.

What I don't want though.... What I'm not a big fan of, is creating a new sub-forum whenever someone wants one, or because it seems like a good idea, and then having it be virtually nothing but crickets.

I do see a home for some actor types to pontificate and such together in an acting forum... I would imagine though, that the majority of the traffic here on this site, would come in the form of directors asking questions about actors, acting, directing actors, etc... That's a good thing though, in my opinion. Theatre, Film, and TV are very collaborative processes.

Anyways... keep the poll going.

later,
Jason

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 10:49 PM
Penguin and I have been working out what content we'd like to see in the acting forum. One thing that I think would be cool would to have people from other acting sites (there really aren't that many good ones from what I've found) join the site and have a place to hang out... even learn a few things about the technical issues involved.

I also think it would be a nice place for actors to showcase their talent. Have a reel? Great! Post it in the acting forum. Want to have headshots and a resume available? Start a sticky so people can post headshots and resume. Have you got the part in a play? Great, let people know in a thread.

I just think it's strange that there's a writing forum but no acting forum.

GageFX
07-26-2008, 10:54 PM
I want the poll to be as accurate as possible.

Third option: "ehh..."

If there is one thing you have covered here, it is accuracy or opinion.




I also think it's a great idea, Jason. I think it could also potentially be a draw for actors that are not on this site but are looking for a place to not only find quality shorts and other projects to act in, but then have a reason to stick around as well.




Tommy, if you could add an option to accurately record my position, which is "Yeah, I guess that might be an okay idea but I'm not really one for internet forum polls", then I would feel like my true thoughts can be counted. :dankk2:

Tom Marshall
07-26-2008, 10:56 PM
Tommy, if you could add an option to accurately record my position, which is "Yeah, I guess that might be an okay idea but I'm not really one for internet forum polls", then I would feel like my true thoughts can be counted. :dankk2:


I'll keep that in mind for the next poll... :dankk2:

Jason Adams
07-26-2008, 10:57 PM
I like this. I am not an actor but I have fired them on occasion and I think next time I fire an actor they should have a place to talk bad about me.

So yes I vote yes.


We just need to be careful, if penguin has one more place to post he may be lost for days in DVXUSER and forget to eat and could die of malnutrition.

So as long as we agree to keep penguin safe from post traumatic post disorder I am in.

Seriously, This would be awesome. If we could draw more actors this would be a one stop to find a team for fests and other projects.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-26-2008, 11:14 PM
...We just need to be careful, if penguin has one more place to post he may be lost for days in DVXUSER and forget to eat and could die of malnutrition.

So as long as we agree to keep penguin safe from post traumatic post disorder I am in.

It's nice to know people care. :) Tommy and I HAVE been talking about this. For me I come here and I participate in the fests and I hang in the café. Now, when I want to talk serious about my niche in this community I can go to the writing forum. That satisfies half of it, but I would really like to prop up Penguin the actor. I think an acting forum would be good for that. Like Tommy said, we have a few ideas of what could be posted there.

Let's do this...

tasialabastro
07-27-2008, 12:25 PM
I think it would fantastic. I think it would be a nice addition, however, it would also be useful to have a sub section in which locations are pointed out as I'm sure you'll have actors from all parts of the globe signed up. Just a thought. In addition, I found this site through some word of mouth and it's a great resource. I'd love to see an actor's sub forum added, I'd definitely recommend it to other actor friends of mine.

Looking forward to seeing something develop. And yes, I voted.

OldCorpse
07-27-2008, 02:18 PM
Yes, absolutely 100% YES.

Story + Actors = Movie. The better those two elements, the better the movie. I'd settle for a worse director, worse dp, worse set designer etc. for a bump up in the quality of the script or actors.

It would be awesome as a resource here on dvxuser. You can never have too much actor-centered activity. I go to plays, amateur productions etc. for one reason - not to find a 'talented' director or dp, but to find actors.

Actors are a paradox - seemingly here in LA everyone is an actor, you are drowning in actors... except when you have a production going - all of a sudden there are NO actors to be had (even having money is no guarantee you'll get the actors you need or want).

I have a couple of simple rules - I don't compromise on the quality of the script, and I try not to compromise on the quality of actors. It's a heck of a lot easier to not compromise on the script, but when it comes to the actor... man, that's hard - really, sometimes there's this actor or no actor, and you're faced with a horrific choice of not going forward with the production, or breaking your rule of not compromising on actors... so you compromise, and live to regret it. An actor who is a good fit for your movie, whom you can afford, who has good communication with you, and who has good working habits (not a flake) - man, you just found a miracle!

So yes, a forum - stat. Anything to increase the supply and quality of actors! And btw. this is why I'm so depressed about the recent SAG - Producers negotiations. We need to protect actors!

Blaine
07-27-2008, 02:28 PM
Looks like the current count is 38-3.

One of the biggest problems in the DVXUser fests, is poor acting. Anything that can remedy that can't be bad...:thumbsup:

ChrisHurn
07-27-2008, 08:39 PM
Hell yes! Why would people say no to this? If it's there, as a sub forum, then people can easily avoid it if they really want. What difference is it really going to have anyway? One more sub forum for people to talk about stuff, if anything it'll bring more actors to the forum. It's not like it;s a big job adding it or anything...Control Panel>new forum>done....

Anyone who calls themselves a filmmaker should be interested in acting...at the very least. Acting is usually one of the worst part of student/low budget films etc and usually the direction of the actors and the lack of understanding of the craft is one of the big reasons why. With bad acting/direction of actors the film will suck no matter what.

We should definitely have the forum. That will bring more actors here, it will give them a chance to talk about their craft, and all the things involved - I find it interesting that people would even think of saving "what would they talk about?"

I'm not really an actor but I know that if I want to be a good director and not fall into the trap that sadly way too many filmmakers do and be a technical wanker for the rest of my life, then I'm going to have to know a thing or two about acting. And an acting forum would help that - watching actors talk, filmmakers could ask actors questions, I guess it could coincide with the directing forum a bit more. And the idea is that having a seperate sub-forum for actors would bring actors here! And that's a good thing!

On a seperate note I'm reading this book called Directing Actors, and it's really good!

Chris

ConspiracyPenguin
07-28-2008, 12:27 AM
So, I made a banner for my signature to promote this idea and hopefully wrangle up some more votes (Texas accent not included).

Does it seem too harsh to you? Someone said it might be and maybe I should take out the part of a film being nothing without good acting. Maybe I should change it to "WITHOUT ACTORS YOUR FILM IS NOTHING" or something like that. Give me some feedback and I will rearrange it tomorrow.

Let's see if we can get this approved!

Isaac_Brody
07-28-2008, 12:29 AM
This sounds like a great idea.

GageFX
07-28-2008, 12:40 AM
I'm behind you penguin. I stole your sig. I'll update when/if you change it.

Hans Moleman
07-28-2008, 12:55 AM
My only reservation (as a trained actor with a degree) would be the limit to how helpful the forum would be for actors.

With cameras, technical details can be important. I've based thousands of dollars in rentals off what I've read here.

A commonly accepted pitfall of this forum is that people spend more time lurking than shooting. The reaon people lurk is that they can find out a lot by only reading, even if they aren't necessarily becoming better cameramen.

Acting, on the other hand, HAS to be hands on, and no where near the amount of growth can be achieved by reading alone. It could be potentially misleading to younger actors lurking the forums if they have a resource that they view as more beneficial than it is.

Also, having the acting forum as a place that would be used primarily by the other members to peruse for talent for their fest films puts the actors in a position to be used, while not allowing them to take away from the site as much as a different user would be able to. In addition, the forum would provide fewer and lower grade opporunities as dedicated sites and publications do (mandy, performink, etc).


By all means, go for it, but I'm afraid actors alone wouldn't be able to take advantage of the site as much as people involved in the camera dept., and could end up being taken advantage of.

seunosewa
07-28-2008, 06:02 AM
Of all the filmmaking forums on the Internets, DVXuser is the only one that can successfully launch an acting forum.

Jeff Anderson
07-28-2008, 07:58 AM
Penguin, Tom! Wake up! You're in your acting forum! Looking forward to this...

Ted Spencer
07-28-2008, 09:54 AM
Great news! I just caught onto this, voted "definitely" and am going to start a thread right now. I think this is a super idea...

Tom Marshall
07-28-2008, 10:02 AM
Penguin, Tom! Wake up! You're in your acting forum! Looking forward to this...

Yes! :D

I woke up this morning to check and see how the poll was going and didn't see the thread in the Cafe so I thought someone actually deleted it. Then I went to my "User CP" and saw it was still there.

I'm stoked! :beer:

Simon Höfer
07-28-2008, 10:07 AM
Woohooo, maybe I should look into here more often to actually learn how to act :D

pauly_the_hitman
07-28-2008, 11:21 AM
Well I started out in front of the camera and switched to loving being behind it. But I still love acting also so I think this would be a cool idea.
Pauly

GageFX
07-28-2008, 02:34 PM
Congrats guys. Now you guys have a place to gossip before going out to serve drinks and wait tables.

Neal Buconjic
07-28-2008, 07:18 PM
Lol!

GageFX
07-28-2008, 10:34 PM
I like how the only person not present in the thread is the kid campaigning for it.

Silly kids.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-28-2008, 11:31 PM
I will have you know, Gage, that I was out of the house all day. You will be surprised to know I got up at 9:30 and went to town and I just got back an hour ago with a new puppy and a bunch of other stuff to deal with. I am here now, buster!

Oh, by the way, we win!!! :) Whoo!

pauly_the_hitman
07-29-2008, 12:09 AM
Holy bat crap batman it is here the Actors Forum.. Yeah!!!!

capitalP
07-29-2008, 06:43 AM
I'm a little late in voting, but glad to see it's up... Excellent.

ConspiracyPenguin
07-29-2008, 12:36 PM
This is fantastic. I took my signature banner offline last night since we got the forum and I finally edited it a bit today to try and bring people in. What do you guys think? Feel free to steal it if you would like! :)

GageFX
07-29-2008, 12:39 PM
How do I change my vote to "Ehh..."?

I've decided I want to be wishy-washy on the negative side.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
07-29-2008, 06:36 PM
Congratulations on getting an acting forum. Well deserved! :beer:

Cheers,

Mike

Rodney V. Smith
07-29-2008, 08:03 PM
Way to go dude. Actors now have a home here on DVXUSer. Now get all your buddies to tell their buddies to haul their asses over here and get their headshots up for Twilight Fest.

triplej96
07-29-2008, 09:46 PM
Wow you got it Tom :) nice job!

Tom Marshall
07-29-2008, 09:52 PM
Thanks guys! :beer:

I think it will be a good addition to dvxuser...

USLatin
07-29-2008, 10:00 PM
I remember when I joined it felt awquard that there wasn't such a section. Good going Tom. I should have asked too.

Tom Marshall
07-29-2008, 10:03 PM
Thanks man. :)

I love this place, but I also wanted to join an acting forum or two, but couldn't find anything nearly as good as this forum...

I figured the best thing to do would be to start a poll... and look where it ended up... yay! lol

Blaine
07-29-2008, 10:06 PM
You need to post your reel, Tommy. :beer:

Tom Marshall
07-29-2008, 10:08 PM
I know. I need to put one together. I've got a decent resume now though. :beer:

GageFX
07-29-2008, 10:27 PM
Do that one where you are twins.

triplej96
07-30-2008, 01:16 AM
I know. I need to put one together. I've got a decent resume now though. :beer:

Yes, i would love to see a reel too.

GageFX
07-30-2008, 02:58 AM
Do the twins, do the twins.

Simon Höfer
07-30-2008, 03:33 AM
Reel Reel!

Anhar Miah
07-30-2008, 06:29 AM
Congrats to everyone!

just realised the acting Forum has been created. Found out from CPs Banner!

Carry on..

capitalP
07-30-2008, 08:15 AM
This is fantastic. I took my signature banner offline last night since we got the forum and I finally edited it a bit today to try and bring people in. What do you guys think? Feel free to steal it if you would like! :)


This is a great idea about the Banner. I tried to use it but it won't let me, it's saying it's too large or something... oh well.

Tom Marshall
07-30-2008, 01:51 PM
You can try my banner... :)

GageFX
07-30-2008, 02:11 PM
Twins!

ConspiracyPenguin
07-30-2008, 02:44 PM
This is a great idea about the Banner. I tried to use it but it won't let me, it's saying it's too large or something... oh well.

Don't use Tommy's banner! :) If you want mine try copying the picture and then pasting it into your signature box. That should work, if not send me a PM and I will see if I can help any more.

Tom Marshall
07-30-2008, 02:59 PM
Twins!


http://www.silentstormmedia.com/media/inextremis/inextremis001.jpg

:thumbsup:

SISUMAN
07-30-2008, 03:09 PM
The DVXuser.com forum has expanded to encompass a greater subject than the DVX100. This is a natural addition to it. We've got just about every other
subject concerning filmmaking, why not acting, and maybe a call sheet forum where indie producers can look for indie actors. Outside the box, outside of Hollywood, is real indie production. It just takes a spark to light a fire.

Tom Marshall
07-30-2008, 03:11 PM
The DVXuser.com forum has expanded to encompass a greater subject than the DVX100. This is a natural addition to it. We've got just about every other
subject concerning filmmaking, why not acting, and maybe a call sheet forum where indie producers can look for indie actors. Outside the box, outside of Hollywood, is real indie production. It just takes a spark to light a fire.

SISUMAN, you've posted this in the acting forum... it started off in the cafe, but has moved to the new forum... it's happened. :beer:

GageFX
07-30-2008, 03:23 PM
Twins!!!!

Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy
Tommy!!!!!

ConspiracyPenguin
07-30-2008, 03:33 PM
Guys, Does this color make me look like a girl? :embarasse

GageFX
07-30-2008, 03:37 PM
No more so than before.

Tom Marshall
07-30-2008, 03:38 PM
Twins!!!!

Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy
Tommy!!!!!


:thumbsup:


Guys, Does this color make me look like a girl? :embarasse

:thumbsup:

Simon Höfer
07-30-2008, 03:47 PM
Guys, Does this color make me look like a girl? :embarasse

You are a boy? :evil:

ConspiracyPenguin
07-30-2008, 03:52 PM
You are a boy? :evil:

I hate you guys. :(

Tom Marshall
07-30-2008, 03:53 PM
Aww... poor Penguin...

GageFX
07-30-2008, 04:12 PM
Here's a new avatar for you:

http://logo.cafepress.com/1/2574929.1675331.jpg

ConspiracyPenguin
07-30-2008, 04:28 PM
No, no, no. Don't pitty me. I am fine. I can deal with all your crap.

Jeff Anderson
07-30-2008, 07:53 PM
holy crap. I cant even think what I should say. Sooo many funny things are coming to my head I think I may just let it slide with a - HAHA!

Tom Marshall
07-30-2008, 07:55 PM
http://www.penskinz.com.my/images/product/penskinz/penguin_nano04.jpg

http://markheggie.com/images/1pinkringerpenguin.jpg

ConspiracyPenguin
07-30-2008, 08:09 PM
Wow. I guess a situation like this really shows you who your friends are.

Temporary new avatar coming soon...

Tom Marshall
07-30-2008, 08:10 PM
Aww... Pengiun... cheer up, dude. I'm your friend. :thumbsup:

ConspiracyPenguin
07-30-2008, 08:30 PM
Aww... Pengiun... cheer up, dude. I'm your friend. :thumbsup:

No, you're the yellow guy in the background of my new avatar. :(

I know you're my friend, don't worry. Just remember that when you make your own film, there is an actor up North looking for a job! Crap, this is a very quotable post, but if someone does quote it, my secret message will be revealed.

SISUMAN
07-30-2008, 09:12 PM
SISUMAN, you've posted this in the acting forum... it started off in the cafe, but has moved to the new forum... it's happened. :beer:
I posted in response to the poll that started this thread. And your english...
"it is happened". Get it right if your going to try and point out a mistake.:huh:

ConspiracyPenguin
07-30-2008, 09:15 PM
I posted in response to the poll that started this thread. And your english...
"it is happened". Get it right if your going to try and point out a mistake.:huh:

"It's" isn't always a conjunction for "It is" it can alternatively be used to represent "It has." Get it right if you are going to try and point out a mistake. :grin:

SISUMAN
07-30-2008, 09:23 PM
"It's" isn't always a conjunction for "It is" it can alternatively be used to represent "It has." Get it right if you are going to try and point out a mistake. :grin:

Not true. Check with an english teacher, about the fifth grade, and you'll understand. I had it right.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
07-30-2008, 09:41 PM
I'm no expert but it used to be that in the english written language "It's" was not used for "It has".

Since things have become more informal with email it has become generally accepted.

I think we're nitpicking here though....

And I hate grammar police on the Internet.
No offense to anyone. I'm not always checking my spelling, nor do I really give a shi* on a message board.

:)

ConspiracyPenguin
07-30-2008, 10:14 PM
Well technically you are not supposed to use "it's" for "it has" but so many people do that it has become widely accepted in informal atmospheres. My post was basically a joke because I thought it was funny for you to pick at his grammar. :)

SISUMAN
07-30-2008, 11:01 PM
To know the truth of anything you must first be truthful with yourself...
Unknown author.

Jason Ramsey
07-30-2008, 11:09 PM
You guys are already acting like a bunch of actors :)

late,r
Jason

Michael Anthony Horrigan
07-30-2008, 11:11 PM
You guys are already acting like a bunch of actors :)

late,r
Jason:grin:

I was going to say the same thing! It's better coming from an actor like yourself.
:beer:

Blaine
07-30-2008, 11:24 PM
You guys are already acting like a bunch of actors :)

late,r
JasonWell, at least we can keep them all corralled in the same forum now...:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

GageFX
07-31-2008, 12:29 AM
Kids, look it up.

Main Entry: it's
Pronunciation: \ˈits, əts\
Date: circa 1555
: it is : it has


1555. Well before email and text messages.

Tom Marshall
07-31-2008, 12:31 AM
I posted in response to the poll that started this thread. And your english...
"it is happened". Get it right if your going to try and point out a mistake.:huh:

WTF??? I'm saying that the poll worked and there's now an acting forum. Why would I be pointing out a mistake??? :huh:


Not true. Check with an english teacher, about the fifth grade, and you'll understand. I had it right.

I'm not an English major, so who gives a shit? :)

ConspiracyPenguin
07-31-2008, 12:39 AM
You guys are already acting like a bunch of actors :)

late,r
Jason

We don't have to ACT like a bunch of ACTors. Although we could. :)

Oh, and by the way, YOU are acting like a third grader! :grin:

PaPa
07-31-2008, 04:13 AM
finally, a forum for US!!!!!!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
07-31-2008, 07:15 AM
Kids, look it up.

Main Entry: it's
Pronunciation: \ˈits, əts\
Date: circa 1555
: it is : it has


1555. Well before email and text messages.It was widely accepted as slang in the spoken English language, not written though. It has (see what I did there :) ) only recently crawled into the written language as "it's" due to the Internet and general laziness.

I know what I was taught in school and I don't need the Internet to tell me otherwise. Of course, I'm probably much older than you and things change. I have no idea what they are teaching in school today. :thumbup:



I'm not an English major, so who gives a shi*? :)Neither am I and I couldn't agree more!:beer:

GageFX
07-31-2008, 08:08 AM
When the Horrigan Dictionary (http://www.horrigandictionary.com/) has been the standard reference for the English language for almost 200 years, then I will defer to it. Until then, I will get the info from the experts (http://www.merriam-webster.com/).




I'm not an English major, so who gives a shi*?Neither am I and I couldn't agree more!

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
07-31-2008, 08:21 AM
When the Horrigan Dictionary (http://www.horrigandictionary.com/) has been the standard reference for the English language for almost 200 years, then I will defer to it. Until then, I will get the info from the experts (http://www.merriam-webster.com/).




I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.Why are you being an ass? I'm telling you what I was taught. In Canada and Great Britain things are a little different. Like the word colour for instance.

Everyone I know (my age) was taught that way.

I'll move on though since you really seem to have a great streak of trying to piss people off lately. Better run before the Mod steps in to tell you to stop again. :thumbsup:

You can go play games with someone else.

Cheers!

Mike

GageFX
07-31-2008, 08:56 AM
I wasn't told to stop, the other guy was.:thumbsup:



I'm telling you what I was taught. In Canada...

Ah... there you go. Aren't there laws in Canada against people learning English? I'm not surprised that they teach you incorrectly.

(I'm joking. Now leave me alone so I can work. http://www.buddy-icons.info/content/smileys/yahoo_kiss.gif )

Michael Anthony Horrigan
07-31-2008, 09:00 AM
I wasn't told to stop, the other guy was.:thumbsup:




Ah... there you go. Aren't there laws in Canada against people learning English? I'm not surprised that they teach you incorrectly.

(I'm joking. Now leave me alone so I can work. http://www.buddy-icons.info/content/smileys/yahoo_kiss.gif )LOL! :grin:

I thought it was just Tommy harassing me about Canadian/British Engish! :)

Let's get back on topic. We've screwed up this thread enough already. :huh:

Luis Caffesse
07-31-2008, 09:06 AM
How about everyone stops and you get back on topic?
Just a thought.

GageFX
07-31-2008, 09:09 AM
No more joking everyone. Back on topic. Now. http://www.buddy-icons.info/content/smileys/yahoo_shame.gif

GageFX
07-31-2008, 09:10 AM
What's the topic? Oh yeah...


We need an "acting" forum around here. Huh? We have one? Oh. Carry on.

Luis Caffesse
07-31-2008, 09:10 AM
Actually - given that the topic is whether or not we should have an acting forum....

...kinda seems like that was settled, doesn't it?

Jason Ramsey
07-31-2008, 05:49 PM
I wasn't told to stop, the other guy was.:thumbsup:

Don't push it...