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IndieFilmer
07-17-2008, 09:31 PM
Would an altered perception of reality due to drug abuse fall under the category of twilight?

Kyle Stebbins
07-17-2008, 10:01 PM
I vote yes.

Mark Harris
07-17-2008, 10:03 PM
Sounds a little like Timefest...

clarkage
07-17-2008, 11:31 PM
Just make sure you dont call it R.D.P.M. haha

ConspiracyPenguin
07-18-2008, 12:10 AM
Why not? I have never seen a film titled that. :evil:

Blaine
07-18-2008, 12:15 AM
Or R.M.P.D. :evil:

Jason Adams
07-18-2008, 01:30 AM
I think it is a perfect entry for DrugFest but it fits this one also.

Thats my vote.

IndieFilmer
07-18-2008, 08:01 AM
I think it is a perfect entry for DrugFest but it fits this one also.

Thats my vote.

Haha

David Jimerson
07-18-2008, 08:06 AM
I don't think so. The concept is not that it should be a perception, but be an actual otherworldly experience of some kind. Something that doesn't happen in the "real" world. Simple drug abuse wouldn't get you into the Zone.

Zoidoid
07-18-2008, 09:30 AM
I don't think so. The concept is not that it should be a perception, but be an actual otherworldly experience of some kind. Something that doesn't happen in the "real" world. Simple drug abuse wouldn't get you into the Zone.

Respectfully disagreed! A great deal of the Twilight Zone stories have to do with the way people perceive the world, especially under unusual circumstances. Many episodes deal with how our brains manage to cope. The very first episode, for instance, deals with how a guy's brain is affected by remaining in an isolation chamber for several weeks. The story revolves around the nightmarish fantasy world that his mind has cooked up as a result.

Jack Daniel Stanley
07-18-2008, 11:02 AM
Respectfully disagreed! A great deal of the Twilight Zone stories have to do with the way people perceive the world, especially under unusual circumstances. Many episodes deal with how our brains manage to cope. The very first episode, for instance, deals with how a guy's brain is affected by remaining in an isolation chamber for several weeks. The story revolves around the nightmarish fantasy world that his mind has cooked up as a result.
You are correct ... but only for this one episode, as far as I know, which is called "Where is Everybody"....

It was also the first episode ...

It is also the only one not narrated by Serling ...

Serling also did not like the episode and later rewrote it to include the austronaut finding a movie ticket in his pocket from his supposed hallucination as he is wheeled off at the end.

So for the fest we'll stick with the intent of the series creator on the whole. Also remember we're not just asking you to make twilight zone knockoffs like you were submitting them to that series for production consideration. We're asking you to be inspired by that type of show, which is why we list other similar series as well.

So for now, for our fest, reality must at least be brought into question. As it was with all other twilight zone episodes, if I'm not mistaken. So it can be someone on drugs hallucinating, or a guy in a deprivation chamber hallucinating, but the validity of the hallucinations need to be brought into question. In some of the best writing / thriller writing, the validity of the alternate reality is brought into question not only at the end with a tieback gimmick, but it its constantly questioned throughout, virtually beat by beat ... is or protag mad? or is he right? is she mad? or is she the only one that can really see what's going on ... etc.

Find ANOTHER couple of Zone episodes other than this one odd man out, which Serling later rewrote when published as a short story to include a fantastical element, and we might reconsider ... until then we need an alternate reality that is questionably real, not just expressly, only , explicitly imagined.


youtube link to end of episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ7slqSfRys)
"This episode features no fantastical, science fiction, or supernatural elements. Serling was purportedly dissatisfied with this and when he wrote up the story for one of the TZ anthologies, he added a bit at the end where Ferris finds a movie ticket in his pocket from his "hallucination.""

Tom Marshall
07-18-2008, 11:06 AM
Serling also did not like the episode and later rewrote it to include the austronaut finding a movie ticket in his pocket from his supposed hallucination as he is wheeled off at the end.

Sounds like a good way to tie in the ball prop... :thumbsup:

Barry_Green
07-18-2008, 11:57 AM
The "Twilight Zone" was a place, another dimension, an alternate reality. There should be some magical or fantasy or sci-fi or otherworldly element to it. A world of imagination. It was a place where ventriloquist dummies came alive, and where Billy Mumy could teleport you out to the cornfield. The point was, this stuff was really happening. It was a magical world in some way or other. A world where the rules of time and space were somehow different.

Drug abuse takes place in this world. To comply with the theme your films should somehow embrace the concept of rules that CANNOT apply in this world alone.

Jack Daniel Stanley
07-18-2008, 12:00 PM
yeah something would have to happen in the "trip" that couldn't 100% be rationally explained

Austinv
08-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Would someone with 2 personalitys be considered twilight???