HEEELP peaaaz

[cricrak]

Hello,

I wanna purshase a good cam but I'm not quite sure wich... From what I understand there is the Canon EOS Rebel from a side and then there's Nikon. I got an offer of a Canon EOS rebel XTi at 500$ with an extra lenth (2nd hand but never used) but Then I don't want to hurry in my choice.

If I go for a Nikon... there is 40 D - 80D. What's main difference? I intend to take courses as well... And should I consider buying any other type of cam?

I wanna consider later to buy filters and extra accessories... so I need a hint about that too for the choice of my cam.

Thanks to all

[alveraz]

If I'm not mistaken there are quite a few threads covering this subject and even your specific questions regarding these cameras. just do a little searching.

Good luck!

[tmnt]

The D80 rocks! But of course more expensive than the others. That said it will last you a lot longer I think.

As alveraz said, there's a few threads on this already for you to browse.

[cricrak]

Thanks guys I'll check it out =)

[Moojangles]

don't discount buying used!

You can usually find good deals from people who love to upgrade. I bought a D200 used, if you look around you can probably grab one for $800 or so now. Great camera!

[tmnt]

I got my D80 used for a good price, shutter count was about 100 shots!

[pest22o]

I love my D80 that's all I'll say.

[<pt>]

Don´t spend too much on the camera, save it for better lenses.

[cricrak]

Thanks guys... I feel I will go for the Nikon D80 I've read lot of good about it.. Somehow D60 has a noise reductor that might be usefull for me as I'm starting in this...

Or should I still buy the Canon EOS (350D) at 500$ ? I feel it's a good price (second hand but never have been used) I shall make my choice before tom. Cuz I'll have to meet him then.

ahahaa.. I'm still lost :'(

[Dan Clark]

I use a Nikon D70. Four years ago when I bought it, Nikons felt good in my hands and Canons did not. OTOH, Canon had better noise control. Now...

Nikon's noise control is on a par with Canon and the Canon ergonomics have improved (IMO). I.e. they are neck and neck. Both make great cameras and you'd pretty much have to get down to nits to find differences. That is, with one exception - the flash system.

IMO, Nikon makes a better, more integrated flash system. If I remotely rationalize it, I wouldn't mind replacing my D70 with a new camera (maybe an D300). But I can't imagine a better flash than my SB800. Even after four years, it's that good.

Which brings me to the key question - what do you shoot? Inside? Outside? Clubs? Portraits? Family stuff? Scenics?

If you shoot where you would need a flash, then definitely get Nikon. If not, then I'd say it's more of a tossup.

One other test - how does it feel in your hands? My D70 feels great in my hands. But not necessarily in others. Try several cameras out. Which one feels better? If most of the other parameters are pretty equal, go with the one that feels good to you.

Regards,

Dan.

p.s., about a month ago, I went into a camera store to look at the Nikon D3. It is an AWESOME camera. Probably the best noise control out there. Nice pics at ISO 6400 and usable pics at ISO 25000. So I expected to LOVE it when I wrapped my sweaty palms around it...

Well, not really. It didn't feel right to me. I really can't afford one, but even if I could, it's feel in my hands made me pause.

Then the camera store guy went into the back and got his PERSONAL D300 (with hand grip). Oooooohhh... It felt NICE!!!

You never can tell.

[alwayslearning]

You may also want to consider the Sony Alpha series. http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/

I have the A700 and love it so far. A good review of it:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2007_reviews/sony_alpha_700.html

I bought this flash for it:

HVL-F56AM

There are very good reviews around the net.

I'd be happy with any Nikon, Canon or Olympus as well as the Sony. I bought the Sony though (glad I did) because it is compatible with all the Minolta stuff I have.

Larry

[puredrifting]

Keep in mind that the cheaper new Nikons d40/d40x/d60 only manually focus with non AF-S Nikon lenses. The D80 autofocuses with almost all AF Nikons ever made.

I have had a D-80 for two years. LOVE it, best camera I have ever owned. Had a D-70 and liked it but the D-80 is all anyone needs unless they are a pro. I am lusting for a D-300 but since I am not a pro, cannopt justify the cost.

Glass over cameras too. Buy great lenses.

Dan

[DivotDan]

What Dan says. Buy good glass. Honestly, with good glass it almost doesn't matter which of these bodies you pick. It might be slightly more annoying to pick some settings on the lower of the consumer line bodies, as the high level cameras have more on camera buttons for different options, but it's good glass and your ability to work the camera that will make awesome pictures.

[cricrak]

Thanks Dan for ur usefull advises...

I met the guy this morning & didn't buy the cam... I'll be pushasing the D80 somewhere before the end of the week... or of this month!

thank yall for takin time and posting this!

[cricrak]

Sorry guys I saw ur posts after I posted this!! Well if someone can give me advises for great lenses for start up... I've seen 200 Mm with image stabiliser, same as the one they selling with D60 . Or should I go for something else?

BTW Always learning, I've seen sony products 2 days ago, they seem nice. I'll have a second look at this again... But it seems less popular & I don't have a minolta

[puredrifting]

Sorry guys I saw ur posts after I posted this!! Well if someone can give me advises for great lenses for start up... I've seen 200 Mm with image stabiliser, same as the one they selling with D60 . Or should I go for something else?

BTW Always learning, I've seen sony products 2 days ago, they seem nice. I'll have a second look at this again... But it seems less popular & I don't have a minolta

Give us a budget for glass. It is no use sugesting the 70-200 VR if you don't have that kind of money to spend. I totally agree with above though, I would rather buy the cheapest recondtioned D40 and good glass than a D80 and mediocre glass. The Nikon lens line is pretty logical and is very well known by most of us, so tell us your budget, what you mostly want to shoot and we can make some logical suggestions.

Do you mostly want to shoot portraits, sports, macro, hummingbirds, landscapes, architecture....?

Dan

[cricrak]

well I was thinking to get somewhere at max 1500 for cam and lens the D80 kit comes with a lens though... I am a lot interested in portraits and landscapes But I wanna explore macro photography as well. i am planning to take courses too although I am learning a lot from the net...

[tmnt]

The 18-135 kit lense isn't bad at all, I mean you'll be able to get some great shots if you're on a budget. I've got some great pics with it.

When you get some more money, get an excellent quality 80-200mm 2.8 nikkor and the 17-35mm - you will not be dissapointed. They cost a bit but like the others have said, good glass will last you forever. I can't see myself ever selling these two lenses.

[puredrifting]

The 18-135 kit lense isn't bad at all, I mean you'll be able to get some great shots if you're on a budget. I've got some great pics with it.

When you get some more money, get an excellent quality 80-200mm 2.8 nikkor and the 17-35mm - you will not be dissapointed. They cost a bit but like the others have said, good glass will last you forever. I can't see myself ever selling these two lenses.

KEH has a decent quality 80-200 2.8 on their site used for $546.00. Just beware that the 80-200 on the D80 is pretty slow focusing so not good for sports/action. But for nature or travel, a great lens value.

If you need longer than the kit lens, the 55-200 VR is a great cheap lens value, since you have a kit lens that goes down to 18mm, you would be covered from 18 to 200 without spending $700.00 for the 18-200 VR.

If you shoot a lot of available light, the cheapo 50mm 1.8 D is another must have, great for indoor available light and not a terrible portrait lens as well.

Nikon has some good options for cheap glass that is decent. When they came out with the 55-200 VR, I kicked myself for paying the $700.00 for the 18-200 VR when I could have bought the 55-200 for about 1/3 of the cost. The 18-200 is a superb travel lens though, it really does it all.

Dan

Dan

[cricrak]

Thanks Dan & King. Got a great help out there. I'll be checking the lenses u guys told me about & their cost.

See ya next time with pics! My bday is soon... gonna gift myself this time!