DVXuser.com Feature movie??

[David W. Richardson]

Just being different isn't enough. Is it better?

[ConspiracyPenguin]

Let me simplify this. What we need = different and better. Problem solved, stop bickering. :grin:

[David W. Richardson]

That only states the problem, it doesn't solve it.

As I said before, I'm game to go with whichever group the majority prefers. So what's it going to be, folks?

[phypon]

I've read some of this thread. I think it's a great idea as well. I think the story needs to be unique. I think the story is the driving force and the cohesive jell at the same time. It's the common thread to hold everything together. With that being said, I think there is also a way to keep it unique in terms of having 4 segments (maybe 1 or 2 more) of the film created by different groups. The different groups each have their own unique style that they bring to the project. This is great from a marketability standpoint.

I think people need to relate to the story. Maybe something where it takes them a while to "get" it, giving them that "Oh!" feeling.


This is just a quick thought. Here is a pitch idea:
The background - People, in general, have different sides, different personality traits. Different pieces of their personalities that make them "them". Humans are also very clicky by nature. We make friends with people that we relate to on some level of our personalities. People usually have several different groups that they interact with, however, these other groups never intermingle. It's as if each group we hang out with represents a personality trait within ourselves. Inadvertently (or through a degree of separation), these groups are connected.

It would be a “passing of the torch” idea. You start with the main character of segment 1 briefly interacting with one specific type of group (or humanistic personality). Character 1 then spends more time with a different group or person (it doesn’t need to be in group settings, just a different type of humanistic quality, since that quality is the point). We’ve now seen two personality traits of character 1.

Character 1 leaves his second “personality encounter” and interacts with a 3rd person. This third person with be passed the torch. The 3rd person (or second main character) interacts with a different type of “personality encounter”. This character passes the torch to someone he has interacted with here, ushering in a 3rd main character. Perhaps do this one more time, making 4 main characters that hold the “torch”.

The point of the whole thing is a look inside human interaction and personalities. We all posses different sides, it’s just a matter of which one is dominate. The dominate personality is most likely the one that shows more often. We probably spend more time with one core group due to the commonality of this dominate personality while we need or require the satellite groups in order for us to function.

The key would be to narrow down the different type of personalities (hopefully not in a stereotypical type of way) and focus on those personalities. These personalities need to be conveyed perfectly. The task would involve the extra special. It would involve explaining that “Je ne sais quoi”. (of which I’m having a hard time doing right now as I try to explain this idea, please forgive me)

Another thing I think would be good, as one poster mentioned (sorry, I forge who), would be to use the technologies we have and NOT let the passing of the torch occur with the actors at the same location. Again, it would add marketability. Also, if we made it obvious to the audience that this is indeed the case, say by the 3 exchange of the torch, they will have another “oh!” moment of figuring something out. Maybe the torch is passed during a phone conversation each time, but the way that the first two times are shot it seems as if the characters are actually in the same room. (just ideas)

I don’t know, maybe it’s not unique or good enough. Maybe it’s been done too many times? The concept obviously still needs a lot of work. It’s just an idea.

I’m going to stop now because I’m getting a little self-conscious.

[spa_edwards]

Well, that candle blew out pretty quick. If no one can make a choice then someone needs to take charge.

[ConspiracyPenguin]

Well, that candle blew out pretty quick. If no one can make a choice then someone needs to take charge.

I have said this a million times. I guess what it comes down to is this, is it going to be:

1) Part of an elaborate fest hosted by the site, or
2) A bunch of us collaborating through the site

From what I can tell the consensus is pretty much 1, that's what Barry is going for I think, and if that's the case then the person who needs to take charge will need to be a Mod who will give us details that this project/fest is in the works, etc...

If it is going to be 2 then I'll go back to what I've said in numerous posts, we just need a talented committed individual to take charge. Either way the ball is out of my court!

[David W. Richardson]

I suspect most folks are leaning towards #1, in which case you're right -- a mod needs to lay out the ground rules and get the ball rolling.

But if #2 is the way people want to go, then the ball's in EVERYBODY'S court -- because a producer needs to be CHOSEN. He/she needs to be someone the others have confidence in and will follow.

So first let's decide -- #1 or #2?

Stop talking about it and VOTE.

I vote for #2.

[sfoster]

Or we could do two films.

I think we should use the fact that we are in multiple locations to our advantage. We can get footage from all over the world because DVXuser is global! Lets take advantage of that. Everyone knows what is awesome about their own back yard, they also know what all the tourists come to see in their city. That is our biggest advantage. We're global. Lets write something that involves the whole world. Honestly, this would make for a great documentary as well. The whole world comes together to make a movie! Hollywood couldn't do something like this without a lot of money!

[Mark Harris]

I dropped out of this because I am not really in tune with the general philosophy at work. So good luck guys!!!

[Mattykins]

Yeah, Mark I am with you.

I'm out guys, best of luck with this thing. Not a fan of the style this has gone.

I slated my own film to enter production this fall. So I'll be tied up with that.

Cheers!

[David W. Richardson]

Which 'general philosophy'???? I don't think one has been settled on yet. Did I miss something?

[David W. Richardson]

Or we could do two films.

I think we should use the fact that we are in multiple locations to our advantage. We can get footage from all over the world because DVXuser is global! Lets take advantage of that. Everyone knows what is awesome about their own back yard, they also know what all the tourists come to see in their city. That is our biggest advantage. We're global. Lets write something that involves the whole world. Honestly, this would make for a great documentary as well. The whole world comes together to make a movie! Hollywood couldn't do something like this without a lot of money!

BOTH films intend to use footage from all over in just the manner you describe.

My understanding of the difference between the two approaches is that one involves a central producer overseeing multiple production units, each of which works in its own little corner of the world shooting a segment of the story -- the other involves letting the multiple production units work completely autonomously, without any overseeing producer in control of the vision.

I've stated this more than once, and nobody has stepped up and corrected me to my knowledge, so I'm assuming this IS, in fact, the difference between the two 'group's (A & B). If that's correct, then the storyline isn't going to be different if one approach is chosen over another -- it will still be a set of four stories set in different parts of the world, interwoven into a single narrative.

Wasn't that the idea from the outset? If so, why are people walking away? What has changed?

[Barry_Green]

My understanding of the differentiation between the two groups was that one group wanted to raise money and have central financing and hire crews to shoot. The other group was of the mindset that that basically isn't gonna happen, and therefore wanted to leverage the existing energy of the DVXFests to see if we can't extend what people are already doing and turn it into something bigger and better than a simple DVXFest entry. But that would be primarily groups making their own films and, if selected for inclusion in the feature, perhaps some money could be extended to buy those film segments off of the groups who produced them.

[David W. Richardson]

My understanding of the differentiation between the two groups was that one group wanted to raise money and have central financing and hire crews to shoot. The other group was of the mindset that that basically isn't gonna happen, and therefore wanted to leverage the existing energy of the DVXFests to see if we can't extend what people are already doing and turn it into something bigger and better than a simple DVXFest entry. But that would be primarily groups making their own films and, if selected for inclusion in the feature, perhaps some money could be extended to buy those film segments off of the groups who produced them.

I see. Well if that's the only difference, then why not do BOTH?

Would the 2nd group object if an investor were found and cast and crew could be paid? Probably not. So why not try to line up an investor or two. Then, if that doesn't work, go to Plan B.

Wouldn't that satisfy both groups?

[David W. Richardson]

Actually, I seem to be the main person pushing for centralization and the hope of a decent budget. Which makes me the one gumming up the works. I admit, I haven't even attempted a Fest entry, so I probably shouldn't even be putting my 2 cents worth in on this.

The best course of action is for ME to bow out. Then hopefully the rest of you can come to a consensus and get the ball rolling on this thing. I think it has a lot of potential, and I'd hate to be the one who kept it from taking off.

So best wishes to everyone on this project. I'll be following its progress with great interest!

[Bayne]

Put me down on the list. HPX500 (Canon KJ13x6BKRS) and HD editing and compositing.

LA area

[karapetkov]

Anyone care for a Cloverfield parody? :)

That'll be cheap :), and the VFX can be crappy on purpose.

Lol.

[David W. Richardson]

Okay okay.....I'm out, I know..... But a parody is a GREAT idea!

[karapetkov]

Cause... even if the film sucks, it could be hilarious. :)

[Barry_Green]

Son Of Rambow, anyone? I haven't seen it but apparently it's getting great reviews...

[Beat Takeshi]

We tried this when the DVX first came out and had 9 teams from DVXuser get together from all over and try to create a script. The premise was if there were only 3 days left of earth what would we do. Our storyline was a mother and her daughter fighting on what had become important in those 3 days. They were native american and the mother never took the time to teach her daughter about her lineage and wanted to give her a crash course and the daughter just wanted to live in the moments they had left. It was really tough to keep it going but I think most of the crews shot there segments. Craig Kitchens headed the project and we had a secret area of the forum where we conversed. The trouble was trying to tie all the stories together to make it cohesive and trying in integrate a little from each story. One of the actors from LA I think was supposed to fly out here for a scene with our characters but it never happened.

[David W. Richardson]

Craig Kitchens headed the project and we had a secret area of the forum where we conversed.

Ooooo! A secret forum within the forum????? There's a movie right there! ;)


The trouble was trying to tie all the stories together to make it cohesive and trying in integrate a little from each story. One of the actors from LA I think was supposed to fly out here for a scene with our characters but it never happened.

That's why I lobbied for a central producer and writing team -- in an effort to ensure cohesiveness to the story and a uniform quality among the various production teams. It seems that would make the final product much better.

[jeremytuttle]

After reading around here is something I came up with. It's just an idea and obviously not solid:

I introduce… DVXUSER Feature Film Fest. A 72 minute long feature created by us the users. Now this is how it works. We will have twelve “segments” that are connected by a story outline written by no other than (to be decided), winner of the DVXUser Feature Film Outline ScriptFest. Your team will choose one of the SIX “segments” and make a twelve minute short that will then be submitted and judged by your peers. The winners of each of the six “segments” will be edited together to create one 72 minute long feature. Choose your plotline wisely judging by your resources and abilities. We will limit each plotline to have only up to ten teams working on it. Why? Well, we can’t have sixty people working on one “segment” and no one working on the other ones now can we. So contact (a mod to be decided) and reserve your plotline if the “segment” is filled up choose your second favorite option.

Each “segment” must be formatted in 16:9 widescreen format and shot at 24p to ensure cohesion between segments.

Ok… so that’s an idea (taking bits and pieces from what you guys have talked about). I would add that it would be great if each segment/plotline had natural breaks so you could edit it up in between each of the other segments. Like plan to have a “cliffhanger” every two to three minutes so you can cut to another plotline. Now the reason you have ten groups working on one plotline is to A) Gives a better chance for a plotline to be completed insuring the feature get’s made B) to have competition for bragging rights insuring higher quality segments that can be voted on, hopefully ending up with the best one. With this way of doing it one selected entity would have to edit, most likely color correcting it all, and then have one person score it all (Herman?) to once again insure cohesion.

Now it’s not to say that “chapters” wouldn’t work. Each of the six segments are simply chapters 1 through 6 and they would play one after another. Also this above idea would need an outline at least. I would go as far to say that a full script would take some fun out of it. I think I rather see people following plot points but doing it with their own dialogue and locations. So that would leave it up to someone to create a great outline that involves six separate segments. I think the outline could also be voted on by our peers in a ScriptFest. So this would be a long process in these following steps:

1. Have DVXUser Feature Film Outline ScriptFest to decide on what outline we use.

2. Have DVXUser Feature Film Fest to have us make six segments.

3. Winners of the six segments are cut together by some master editor.

4. Film is color corrected/Film is scored by Herman?

5. Film is sold to distributor, film makers, editors, Herman and DVXUser make millions and millions are at approiate percentages... whatever they are (I don't do business)

Now… you could stretch this out longer by not having people choose between the segments and have six fests that each one is to make one segment of the movie following that part of the outline.
Like I said, just a mash of ideas and can't wait to hear more and keep this going. I love the idea and their should be no problem in making it happen if we can all pitch in and make it work.
Jeremy

[Matt Sconce]

After reading around here is something I came up with. It's just an idea and obviously not solid:

I introduce… DVXUSER Feature Film Fest. A 72 minute long feature created by us the users. Now this is how it works. We will have twelve “segments” that are connected by a story outline written by no other than (to be decided), winner of the DVXUser Feature Film Outline ScriptFest. Your team will choose one of the SIX “segments” and make a twelve minute short that will then be submitted and judged by your peers. The winners of each of the six “segments” will be edited together to create one 72 minute long feature. Choose your plotline wisely judging by your resources and abilities. We will limit each plotline to have only up to ten teams working on it. Why? Well, we can’t have sixty people working on one “segment” and no one working on the other ones now can we. So contact (a mod to be decided) and reserve your plotline if the “segment” is filled up choose your second favorite option.

Each “segment” must be formatted in 16:9 widescreen format and shot at 24p to ensure cohesion between segments.

Ok… so that’s an idea (taking bits and pieces from what you guys have talked about). I would add that it would be great if each segment/plotline had natural breaks so you could edit it up in between each of the other segments. Like plan to have a “cliffhanger” every two to three minutes so you can cut to another plotline. Now the reason you have ten groups working on one plotline is to A) Gives a better chance for a plotline to be completed insuring the feature get’s made B) to have competition for bragging rights insuring higher quality segments that can be voted on, hopefully ending up with the best one. With this way of doing it one selected entity would have to edit, most likely color correcting it all, and then have one person score it all (Herman?) to once again insure cohesion.

Now it’s not to say that “chapters” wouldn’t work. Each of the six segments are simply chapters 1 through 6 and they would play one after another. Also this above idea would need an outline at least. I would go as far to say that a full script would take some fun out of it. I think I rather see people following plot points but doing it with their own dialogue and locations. So that would leave it up to someone to create a great outline that involves six separate segments. I think the outline could also be voted on by our peers in a ScriptFest. So this would be a long process in these following steps:

1. Have DVXUser Feature Film Outline ScriptFest to decide on what outline we use.

2. Have DVXUser Feature Film Fest to have us make six segments.

3. Winners of the six segments are cut together by some master editor.

4. Film is color corrected/Film is scored by Herman?

5. Film is sold to distributor, film makers, editors, Herman and DVXUser make millions and millions are at approiate percentages... whatever they are (I don't do business)

Now… you could stretch this out longer by not having people choose between the segments and have six fests that each one is to make one segment of the movie following that part of the outline.
Like I said, just a mash of ideas and can't wait to hear more and keep this going. I love the idea and their should be no problem in making it happen if we can all pitch in and make it work.
Jeremy





Love it! This sounds like a great way to do this!:engel017:

[David W. Richardson]

6 segments, each 12 minutes long. Is that long enough to let the audience get deeply emotionally connected to and invested in the characters? Particularly if they're only seeing each set of characters for a couple of minutes here, a couple of minutes there.

Just asking.

[jeremytuttle]

There has been plenty of six minute shorts that I care for the characters but it depends on the actor, dialogue, directing etc. I think 12 minutes is plenty, if not too long, especially if done in a "Fest" situation.

EDIT: But honestly, it really comes down to what ever you guys want to do. If everyone votes for twenty minutes segments fine. Or maybe it depends on how the outline is written if the part/segment with the underground bunker is only 15 minutes long (roughly) and the part in the abandoned mine is thirty minutes, maybe that will also help the users decide which segment they want to work on. Maybe they want to do the shorter one because they don't have the budget to do the longer one.

On a side note: Making a feature is a tough thing to do. But what I like about this idea is you have a large group of people helping make the feature. But not everyone that says they will help will finish (not excluding myself in the equation, you never know what can happen, family emergency, debt, what ever). Making this a Fest with multiple people working on the same "segment" insures that the feature will be made and the other film makers haven't wasted their time. Unless, ten of the groups making one segment all fail, but I doubt it. Now yes, I agree there is a problem with this idea... some people will make a movie for the Fest that won't be voted to continue on into the feature film (except hopefully in some great special features on the DVD) and with the great talent on here I wouldn't doubt my short would probably be voted out too. But, wow, just imagine if your segment did get voted in and you became a part of the first ever DVXUser feature film... that is worth the effort, at least for me. If it's not for you, then don't do it. And then imagine it got picked up and everyone is making a fair share (which should be figured out before the fest even begins, and if you enter you agree to the terms if you don't like the terms don't enter kind of thing.) on the profits that would be even sweetier.

[pia12254]

What Jeremy has outlined is pretty much exactly how I pictured this thing taking place when the idea was first proposed. I think having multiple groups "competing" to get their segment accepted as part of the feature is the only way to ensure it actually happens.

Having redundant crews (for lack of a better term) is the only way to prevent the inevitable dropouts from waylaying the whole film. And I think having segments that vary slightly in length is a good idea...it gives the potential crews a little flexibility to match their budget/time/locations etc.

Good thoughts Jeremy!

Daniel

[jeremytuttle]

Thanks Daniel but to give credit, a lot of these ideas have all ready been discussed I just added to it and listed it out.

What's going to make or break this is a good outline/treatment. Something that connects all the segments but keeps them separate at the same time. Now maybe making the Outline Fest a DVXUser Feature Film Script Fest would be a good thing for one reason: You could have phone calls, or e-mails that match across the segments and could "connect" the stories. Or perhaps the treatment details the dialogue only in the connected scenes. I do think it would be a lot more fun to be able to come up with your own dialogue and give people the ability to put their personal touch on each of the segments. Also, at some point there should be something that happens to all the segments at one time. Maybe something half way through the movie should come up on the news or something. And what's great about that, is each place would have different local news casters so the actors wouldn't have to match.

Anyway, just ideas.

[Barry_Green]

I'm thinking Jeremy's on to something...

[David W. Richardson]

There has been plenty of six minute shorts that I care for the characters but it depends on the actor, dialogue, directing etc. I think 12 minutes is plenty, if not too long, especially if done in a "Fest" situation.


Yes, but that's when you got to spend six minutes straight with those characters. Can you get equally engaged when it's two minutes with these, then two minutes with those, then two minutes with the next group, then the next, then the next, then the next -- THEN back to another two minutes with the first group? Because unless you're going to do the stories as an anthology -- one story told at a time -- then that's what you're looking at.

It can be done, but it'll be a challenge. Good luck, though. Love to see how it turns out!

[David W. Richardson]

There ought to be a movie in THIS.....

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[pia12254]

I agree that the script/outline should definitely have, at the bare minimum, transitional scenes scripted so that the stories can interact/interweave with each other seamlessly.

Personally, I prefer the idea of having an actual script just because if the writing is consistent it would really provide a lot of cohesion despite the fact that multiple crews are producing the different scenes. Also, having people in multiple locations each writing their own scripts would significantly increase the "SUCK PROBABILITY" rating... :D

If you have one central script that has been reviewed/modified/vetted/revised and it does not get sent out until it is tight, cohesive and bangin' then I think it gives the project overall a significant leg up before production even begins.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! ;)

[jeremytuttle]

I'd buy that Daniel. So we could have a ScriptFest for the Feature Film and the notes we give to script that wins could be help revise and polish it, so when shooting begins on the segments it's a great script. But then again a full fledge feature lenght script is not an easy thing to write, some take years.

I do think that if we did it as a treatment though and people wrote their scripts on that... well our voting on those segments would also include how their dialogue shapes up, right? So maybe it wouldn't be that bad... maybe, hopefully.

[jeremytuttle]

Yes, but that's when you got to spend six minutes straight with those characters. Can you get equally engaged when it's two minutes with these, then two minutes with those, then two minutes with the next group, then the next, then the next, then the next -- THEN back to another two minutes with the first group? Because unless you're going to do the stories as an anthology -- one story told at a time -- then that's what you're looking at.

It can be done, but it'll be a challenge. Good luck, though. Love to see how it turns out!

I understand your reservations and they are valid points but I think for this movie to work it needs to be made by a bunch of groups and we can't kill those groups by making them make 30 minutes segments. Six minutes is tough for a lot people and we would want this Fest to be open for everyone not just the people with the money to shoot for two weeks straight. Now it's not to say that the treatment can't be written as an anthology. If that's what the users vote for then that would give the viewer 12 to 20 minutes with those characters. I do think movies like that may be a bit harder to sell. There was a horror movie recently that had three parts directed by three different people... but I think three makes sense (three acts), six or more, I'm not so sure about... all though that could be the movies claim to fame. "This summer a six chapter epic will blow your mind, it's like nothing you've ever seen before..."

Thoughts?

[David W. Richardson]

I understand your reservations and they are valid points but I think for this movie to work it needs to be made by a bunch of groups and we can't kill those groups by making them make 30 minutes segments. Six minutes is tough for a lot people and we would want this Fest to be open for everyone not just the people with the money to shoot for two weeks straight. Now it's not to say that the treatment can't be written as an anthology. If that's what the users vote for then that would give the viewer 12 to 20 minutes with those characters. I do think movies like that may be a bit harder to sell. There was a horror movie recently that had three parts directed by three different people... but I think three makes sense (three acts), six or more, I'm not so sure about... all though that could be the movies claim to fame. "This summer a six chapter epic will blow your mind, it's like nothing you've ever seen before..."

Thoughts?

Oh no, I TOTALLY agree it needs to be done by multiple groups. I'm just saying that SIX separate storylines is too much -- I would limit it to 3 or 4 at the most. That's all I'm saying.

[David W. Richardson]

I agree that the script/outline should definitely have, at the bare minimum, transitional scenes scripted so that the stories can interact/interweave with each other seamlessly.

Personally, I prefer the idea of having an actual script just because if the writing is consistent it would really provide a lot of cohesion despite the fact that multiple crews are producing the different scenes. Also, having people in multiple locations each writing their own scripts would significantly increase the "SUCK PROBABILITY" rating... :D

If you have one central script that has been reviewed/modified/vetted/revised and it does not get sent out until it is tight, cohesive and bangin' then I think it gives the project overall a significant leg up before production even begins.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! ;)

I agree. Well said!

[Kyle Stebbins]

I know Mr. Kyle Stebbins is in Neb. all the locations that are written will vary to the response we get to people, maybe we should have an official in list or something. anyone wanna do that?

Definitely in.

[spa_edwards]

Has this thread been moved or has it run dry already?

[ConspiracyPenguin]

I'm thinking it ran dry. Everyone was done throwing out ideas and there was still no one to take them and make it happen. Hopefully sometime. Maybe the mods are talking about it in their secret yellow name forum/club. *sigh*

[jeremytuttle]

Hopefully it won't run to dry for long. I'm up for doing what ever I can to help out with the project in what ever form it ends up in. I think it's a great idea but I think it will take a little help from the mods to get people aboard. It's one thing for us to motivate people but if DVXUser is behind it and makes it an actual Fest or similar then a lot more people will want to be a part of it.

[kimko]

who wants to do a reality show of me driving my motorcycle across country and back going to motorcycle events and meeting different people from all walks of life and staying with them if they are interesting enough and then moving on to the next adventure: stopping in Nevada to the bunny ranch...watching a local MMA fights....having dinner with farmers....rolling in the hay with the daughter....being chased out by the father....with a shotgun....being pulled over by a cop....seeing the stupid sh it they pull and it's on film for everyone to watch!!! HEY how about a show called "STUPID COPS" now we could have every DVXuser in each city and state to set up a scenerio to be filmed at a certain time i'd be there............................................. .................................................. ........

[Mattykins]

I think it was a good idea on paper, but not in practicality. Akin to communism. It works well on paper, fails epically in real life.

I think everyone grabbed it with such fervor and then it just burned out as everyone started bickering. I think a lot of people would love to help. Just aren't into the general crap that comes with it. Myself included.

[kimko]

yes, team work only works when people are starving and nothing to lose. but then there are a few who break the mold.......but alas, we're all comfortly numb.... hello...hello....is there anyone out there.........awe just sitting around talking...and getting moldy....

[ConspiracyPenguin]

Just nod if you can hear me...is there anyone home?

[jasonthewho]

HEY how about a show called "STUPID COPS"

Now, that's a project I could get behind!

[Edgen]

Now, that's a project I could get behind!

Stupid Cops? Isn't that RENO 911?

[kimko]

no even stupider....? uh...... real cops doing the things they do day in and day out....but leaving the camera rolling and not cutting every time they screw up...which is every minute that they are on the job.

[David W. Richardson]

yes, team work only works when people are starving and nothing to lose. but then there are a few who break the mold.......but alas, we're all comfortly numb.... hello...hello....is there anyone out there.........awe just sitting around talking...and getting moldy....

Think about the way most of us make a movie.

We find, or write, a good script. We dig up the funds. Then we find a director, a DP, a lighting guy, a sound guy, actors, etc. That approach usually works pretty well.

What we don't do is put out a call and say, "Hey -- who wants to help me make a movie?", and then ask everybody for story ideas. When we do that we might get 5 directors, 7 DP's, no sound guys, etc. And we get a dozen different ideas about what 'our' movie should be.

That's why making movies by committee rarely works out well. The organization is all wrong from the start. Most of us learned a long time ago that the concept of a bunch of buddies in the back yard with a camcorder doesn't usually translate into a quality production -- even though secretly we probably all think it would be great fun!

[Jim Montgomery]

I think I heard that before!

[kimko]

hmmm i think i was talking about a Reality show not a feature. sorry i don't have all the knowledge you have from school..... but i can't wait to see your feature! sooo that being said maybe some of you with a camera and some lighting in different cities could we possibly put something together for a pitch and yes it could very well be in your back yard. oh and a story.... well we could just let that unfold and leave it up to me since i have learned a lot from guys like mr. feature man.

[ConspiracyPenguin]

hmmm i think i was talking about a Reality show not a feature. sorry i don't have all the knowledge you have from school..... but i can't wait to see your feature! sooo that being said maybe some of you with a camera and some lighting in different cities could we possibly put something together for a pitch and yes it could very well be in your back yard. oh and a story.... well we could just let that unfold and leave it up to me since i have learned a lot from guys like mr. feature man.

I know what you're saying, but if I am not mistaken David was refering to the way this whole thread unfolded. We all just started throwing out ideas and, at the end of the day, nothing happened because that doesn't really work.

EDIT: I guess he did quote your post in his reply. Hmm...I don't really know.

[David W. Richardson]

Yeah, sorry about that. The post I quoted from Kimko sounded like it was referring to the ongoing convo about making a DVXUser feature film (as per the subject line of this thread) and the resulting issues. So that's what I was talking about. Sorry for the confusion.

[jeremytuttle]

That's why making movies by committee rarely works out well. The organization is all wrong from the start. Most of us learned a long time ago that the concept of a bunch of buddies in the back yard with a camcorder doesn't usually translate into a quality production -- even though secretly we probably all think it would be great fun!

This is why DVXUser it self needs to step in and organize this. Assuming they would even want to touch this with a ten foot pole.

I really think the only way to do this is if DVXUser hosted a fest about it and to prevent too many cooks in the kitchen in "ideas", you should (imho) hold a script fest for it. That way everyone and their mother can write a script for it and if you wanted, you could have six people get together and co write a script (this would be up to the users, just like a DVXUser Fest) then all those scripts are voted by us and that would then cascade down to the feature film fest. Having a script fest prevents people from fighting over the story (I like aliens... well I like robots). Simply the script that everyone liked the most and voted on would win.

Now I, or anyone, could start and unofficial DVXUser Script Fest but I fear not as many people would want to jump on the band wagon when it's just a normal Joe like me trying to organize it.

[Barry_Green]

Like I said before, I'd be interested in exploring trying to get something like this off the ground. But not right now. Now is insane-busy time. Next year, perhaps.

[jeremytuttle]

Like I said before, I'd be interested in exploring trying to get something like this off the ground. But not right now. Now is insane-busy time. Next year, perhaps.


Ohhhh, nice! Then there is hope at least. Let me know if I can help in anyway Barry.

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Coming soon, the first ever DVXUser Feature Film in the Summer (or Fall) of 2009:happy:

[kimko]

Yeah, sorry about that. The post I quoted from Kimko sounded like it was referring to the ongoing convo about making a DVXUser feature film (as per the subject line of this thread) and the resulting issues. So that's what I was talking about. Sorry for the confusion.sorry about that chief! i was putting up my dukes:furious3: too many brain cells missing and i can't get them back!!!! i'm going to talk to the producer i worked with on that reality thing i did in Feb. to see if he'd be interested to do what i want to do and maybe i can get some DVXUSERS in each town or city i go to, tape a segment. if anybody would be interested in that ....e-mail me

[Robertson6]

It seems like someone had a cool concept that went no where. I think you should take your production teams and let them write there own script based off of a central theme. Lets say like Cloverfield for example, make your story about a national or world wide event, the overall story line must follow along the basic script. But each production team writes there own script for there area and how that part of the country or world would react to the event. Maybe a stupid concept, just my 2 cents worth.

[JHM]

I'm new but I would totally help ! I'm in Canada though.

[Rodney V. Smith]

Why do all of the Canadian DVXUsers have to be so spread out? That's it: I'm moving to LA....

on a serious note: A country or worldwide event that shows personal stories but folds into he whole would be a great project for this. That's a lot of careful planning and production. So many variables to tie together. Might as well hold a DVXUSer camp in one location and whoever shows up, pair them off into teams and send them out to shoot different parts of a script... otherwise the expense would be quite something to deal with. I would hate to be the UPM on a project like that...

[Erez Henya]

I sense ambition, and I love that.

What's our status?

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I'm new but I would totally help ! I'm in Canada though.
WHOA!! A fellow Ottawa filmmaker!??
I'm PM'ing you! :laugh: