Couple of Issues with Photoshop

[givemefood]

Friends.

I've been using Photoshop CS3 the past few months. Not an expert at it but i do use some of the layers for my home pictures.

Anyway, off-late i noticed that when i take a picture (RAW/JPEG) and add adjustment layers over it, and when i "Save As" the new image as JPEG, the new JPEG image does not reflect a lot of the changes i have made in Photoshop.

Do you know what i might be missing?

All the layers that i have added are made visible in the Layers window.

Any sugggestions?

Thank you

[egproductions]

try flatening the image first before you save the JPEG.

[givemefood]

Thanks.

How do i do that?

[egproductions]

right click on one of the layers and hit flatten image...or you can highlight all the layers and merge layers. Almost the same thing.

[alwayslearning]

Be sure to save the merged layers file with a new name if you want to still have the layers. Once merged, always merged once you close photoshop.

Larry

[Matt Grunau]

It is a color profile issue. Your color profile in Photoshop does not match that or is not similar enough to S-RGB to have the image look the same in something like a web browser.

[givemefood]

Thanks all. My color profile in Photoshop is set to Adobe RGB, similar to what i have in my D70.

I believe it might be the flattening issue. However, in the past i never flattened the layers and the images came out well corrected.

[Matt Grunau]

It is not a flattening issue. It is a color profile issue. Trust me on this one, especially if you are using a flat panel monitor.

Go to your color setup and change it from Adobe RGB 1998 to something like sRGB IEC61966-2.1 which is in the drop down menu and watch what happens. If it doesn't work, you can always change it back.

[givemefood]

I thought the whole idea to use layers was so we can retain the original image if we choose to remove one or all layers in the future.

If i flatten the image... the layers get embedded. So that doesn't seem like the right way to do it.

Any other suggestions guys?

[alwayslearning]

I thought the whole idea to use layers was so we can retain the original image if we choose to remove one or all layers in the future.
I'm wondering if you missed my post here? You can merge the layers, click on "save as" instead of "save" and give your image a new name. That way you still have the layers image for any possible future work.

In your original post, you mentioned doing some work to a RAW file and when saved as a jpg, some of the work is missing. Could you mention an example?

Having just gotten my first camera that can do RAW/JPEG images, I don't know a lot about it. It will shoot in jpg, raw and raw/jpg. When I shoot in raw/jpg, it creates two separate images; a raw file and a jpg file. But also in your first post, you mention ... when i take a picture (RAW/JPEG) and add adjustment layers over it, ... . By "it", I am assuming you mean raw?

I just took a raw image from last week and added a text layer and saved it as a "photoshop raw" file (CS3). A dialogue box came up that says,

"The Photoshop RAW format does not fully encode the image mode and size, among other things. The image may not be fully restored when you re-open the file."

(I hope this post helps you some. It is helping me as I am learning as I go here concerning raw files. :) )

I click "ok" and get another dialogue box that says,

"Some image data (for example, printer settings) cannot be saved with this file format. Save anyway?" (I said yes)

Also, I duplicated the background layer and turned off the locked background layer back at the start.

Then I saved it as a jpg. Then I closed the original image but told it not to save as I wanted to maintain the original.

Ok, now I try to open the raw image with text that I made. It opens a dialogue box that is defaulted to 8 bit. I click to open. What a horrid looking image! It is grayscale, extremely blocky and sorta kinda duplicated .... the image is like split in the middle and starts over .... someting like that. So I close it. Open. This time I set it to 16 bit. and IBM PC. I get a message saying that the image is larger than the file. I'm like ... what? I thought the file was the image? Boy oh boy do I have a lot to learn.

Ok ... I just opened the jpg version. It looks identical to my raw image .... back when I had it open. :)

Here is the jpg version:

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/1216/1208615859.jpg

Well, I'm off to Cleveland for the day ... At least with this post I learned that I have to learn about messin' with raw files.

Well, I just did a post preview before submitting. It's "ok". The colors are not nearly as good as the original, uncropped image. I cropped this one to 600 X 400 @ 72 pixels per inch.

Larry

[SilverWolf]

Givemefood ,

Please walk us through the steps you take from when you first open you original file to when you save. That way we can figure out were you might be going wrong.

[Matt Grunau]

Any other suggestions guys?



Ummm, yeah. Try reading what I wrote, and look into color profile possibilities. This is, and let me say it again, this is NOT a flattening issue. Sometimes flattening an image will make things like drop shadows and other layer effects get a bit off, but it will not, and let me say it again, it will not change your color.

So, I will write it for a third time:

This is a color profile issue.

It is especially true if you are using a flat screen monitor, which usually can not display as many colors, or as accurate colors as a comparable CRT. It is even more a possibility that you monitor may need to be recognized by your OS down to the make and manufacturer. My dell 19" Ultrasharps came with a disc which was basically almost like drivers to let Windows know exactly what colors are what, which gave in Photoshop the monitor's own color profile.

[Matt Grunau]

Boy oh boy do I have a lot to learn.



Not really Larry. You have all the info and material you need, you are just using it a little off. Don't think of a RAW file as an image file. Think of it more as a frame of 35mm film negative.

You wouldn't write on a film negative or try to save a picture as a film negative would you (not counting film making where they scan the negatives, put it into a digital format, add effects and whatnot, and put them back into celluloid for viewing purposes through a projector at your local theater)?

Once you have you RAW dialogue up and have made the changes you want, committed it to Photoshop to work on, save it as anything BUT a RAW file. You can always go back to the original RAW and simply replace the background image in your Photoshop document.

But we are talking apples and oranges to the issue at hand. This is not a RAW problem, not a flattening problem, nor is it a mode problem. It is a profile problem.