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conrad_johnson
05-23-2008, 04:06 PM
Nice, keep these coming!
But Joe, you have yet to explain why the last MXF file is a CU shot of your Mushroom-Tip. I mean, I know you love the HPX and all, but...
I needed a high-res still to show the doctor:Drogar-Shock(DBG):
Tom Marshall
05-23-2008, 07:04 PM
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/rave.jpg
Next installment of "how I lit this"
This is a moving shot, hence the slight softness of the image.
Alright, from camera right to camera left:
1 Arri fresnel 150 with full CTB coming in through window at the top (right window)
1 2bank diva with daylight tubes coming in the main part of the window (right window)
1 daylight curly-q behind piano (with diffusion)
1 Arri fresnel 650 with full CTB coming in through window (left window)
1 Daylight balanced 200 watt bulb with diffusion taped to ceiling in middle of room (on dimmer)
1 4bank diva as key off camera left (the actor it is keying is off camera now, but we land on him later in the shot.
We smoked up the room also. (obviously)
Again, all lamps are 5600k and I shot 3200k for blue effect.
One thing I would do differently next time when shooting blue like this is shift the image in camera to a little more green. Everything turns out a little pink when you shoot blue on these Panasonic cameras.
Can anyone identify the DVX user in this pic??????????:thumbsup:
That's all for now. More later.
-Joe
I'm going to guess the DVX user is Kyle Stebbins slamming the beer in the black wife beater?
conrad_johnson
05-29-2008, 11:17 AM
I'm going to guess the DVX user is Kyle Stebbins slamming the beer in the black wife beater?
Nope, guess again.:kiss:
conrad_johnson
05-29-2008, 11:37 AM
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/rave2.jpg
Installment 3 in my "how I lit this series".
Okay, from camera right to camera left:
1 2bank kino in bathroom (on right of image with girl doing coke)
Also, the bathroom lights are on. (2 60 watt?) I don't remember.
1 overhead light bulb (whatever was there, probably 60 watt?)
1 4bank kino blasting in from behind door in background. (you can see the hit on the floor)
1 overhead light illuminating foreground (another dvxuser, guess who.:evil:)
We fogged up the room and I blued the bitch up in post.
That's all for now.
-Joe
Mark Harris
05-29-2008, 12:08 PM
I like that blue. Is that how it looks? :)
Jack Daniel Stanley
05-29-2008, 12:09 PM
Easy:
http://frenchquarterfeatures.com/nikkiroof.jpg
Nikki AKA Lingothree (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=18419) watching the guy chug his beer.
:cheesy:
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/rave.jpg
Next installment of "how I lit this"
This is a moving shot, hence the slight softness of the image.
Alright, from camera right to camera left:
1 Arri fresnel 150 with full CTB coming in through window at the top (right window)
1 2bank diva with daylight tubes coming in the main part of the window (right window)
1 daylight curly-q behind piano (with diffusion)
1 Arri fresnel 650 with full CTB coming in through window (left window)
1 Daylight balanced 200 watt bulb with diffusion taped to ceiling in middle of room (on dimmer)
1 4bank diva as key off camera left (the actor it is keying is off camera now, but we land on him later in the shot.
We smoked up the room also. (obviously)
Again, all lamps are 5600k and I shot 3200k for blue effect.
One thing I would do differently next time when shooting blue like this is shift the image in camera to a little more green. Everything turns out a little pink when you shoot blue on these Panasonic cameras.
Can anyone identify the DVX user in this pic??????????:thumbsup:
That's all for now. More later.
-Joe
conrad_johnson
05-29-2008, 12:13 PM
Bingo Jack!
Yes mark, that's how it looks. but when I send it to you I'm gonna turn the brightness up and wash out all of the color. :)
Mark Harris
05-29-2008, 12:21 PM
Bingo Jack!
Yes mark, that's how it looks. but when I send it to you I'm gonna turn the brightness up and wash out all of the color. :)
Yay, just how I like it!
Mark Harris
05-29-2008, 12:21 PM
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/rave2.jpg
But who can identify the DVXUser in this shot? :)
krestofre
05-29-2008, 12:22 PM
Hey guys, I haven't had the time to be as active in the individual threads as I'd like, but I just wanted to say that the grabs through out this thread look great and this entry is one that I'm really looking forward to.
Jack Daniel Stanley
05-30-2008, 10:43 AM
But who can identify the DVXUser in this shot? :)
that's you in the foreground with your back to camera.
bosindy
05-30-2008, 10:59 AM
i thought it was hetch doing a rail at the craft service table.
Mark Johnson
05-30-2008, 11:02 AM
Man, this is friggin' gritty good stuff. Unbelievably cool frames and mood. I'm stoked.
conrad_johnson
05-30-2008, 05:13 PM
Hey guys, I haven't had the time to be as active in the individual threads as I'd like, but I just wanted to say that the grabs through out this thread look great and this entry is one that I'm really looking forward to.
Thanks for making it by. And thanks for the compliments. I hope we don't dissapoint.:Drogar-Mad(DBG):
conrad_johnson
05-30-2008, 05:15 PM
Man, this is friggin' gritty good stuff. Unbelievably cool frames and mood. I'm stoked.
Thanks Mark. When do we see some grabs from your epic adventure huh?:lipsrseal
conrad_johnson
05-30-2008, 05:51 PM
Some color corrected grabs for y'all.
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/grabs/bob.jpg
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/grabs/couch.jpg
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/grabs/eyes.jpg
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/grabs/mirror.jpg
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/grabs/thug.jpg
Lemme know what you all think.:thumbsup:
Blaine
05-30-2008, 05:55 PM
Lemme know what you all think.:thumbsup:It's always dangerous to answer that question based on random grabs from a movie without knowing the context. That said, for what they are, they look fine. :beer:
Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-30-2008, 10:05 PM
They look fantastic! Love the bathroom shot, the colour is superb. :thumbup:
I really need to learn how to do proper CC work.
Mark Harris
05-30-2008, 11:11 PM
easy, don't reveal too much with the Bob Dobbs!
But yeah, I am quite happy with the cc
M
Mark Harris
05-31-2008, 09:05 AM
Man, this is friggin' gritty good stuff. Unbelievably cool frames and mood. I'm stoked.
Dude, we got grit coming out the Wazzooo on this one.
Mark Johnson
05-31-2008, 09:54 AM
Thanks Mark. When do we see some grabs from your epic adventure huh?:lipsrseal
Tim is stuck in a closet somewhere with proxies, our student intern and a bunch of cocoa puffs. When he deigns to edit again its up to him what gets posted in that regard. God knows what this thing is going to look like once we get Raptor's frames integrated. I can tell you that working in 4K is a new and daunting experience. Earlier today I got a frame render report from the mad professor north of the border of 2 hrs 45 mins. for a single frame. We may be headed for a trip to the render farm before this is over VFX-wise, given that we're two weeks out. But at least the pictures are really purrty!
Ben Sliker
05-31-2008, 12:31 PM
Some color corrected grabs for y'all.
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/grabs/mirror.jpg
http://www.lingothree.com/timefest/grabs/thug.jpg
Lemme know what you all think.:thumbsup:
Love the simplified color pallate in these grabs, the red vs. green/yellow and blue vs. orange. It draws your attention in by limiting the colors!
totitefilms
05-31-2008, 12:52 PM
I just look over your thread and like the name of your movie ;-) Nice grabs also!
Mark Harris
06-01-2008, 12:59 PM
Joe just sent me about the final sound mix, and all I have to say is I am on the next plane to Minn, and he had better have his pants down when I get there and be ready for the sweetest lovin' he's ever had. You are a Rock God.
Jason Ramsey
06-02-2008, 06:09 PM
Wait, so are you actually going to be working on a film that is going to come in under 6 minutes, Mark???? A-freaking-mazing... Watch out world. Harris is back!
I wish I could have spent time in everyone's threads this time around, but unfortunately it was not that way. This fest is really shaping up to be a nice one in terms of participation.
p.s. that guy has a bit of a Philip Seymour Hoffman thing going on doesn't he?
Later,
Jason
Mark Harris
06-02-2008, 07:10 PM
Wait, so are you actually going to be working on a film that is going to come in under 6 minutes, Mark???? A-freaking-mazing... Watch out world. Harris is back!
Yeah, it was like cutting off a limb. but somehow I made it through...
Tom Marshall
06-02-2008, 10:57 PM
Dude, we got grit coming out the Wazzooo on this one.
That sounds painful...
conlanforever
06-04-2008, 10:47 AM
I really like the poster and those screengrabs look great, I really like what you did with the color.
Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
Mark Harris
06-07-2008, 11:46 AM
thanks colan!
Well, putting our titles in and tweaking the audio based on feedback from about ten people so far, and getting all of the permissions we needed for various trademarked things in the film, I think we are DONE.
Woot! :)
conrad_johnson
06-07-2008, 03:23 PM
Hey... I think we're done!
Kyle Stebbins
06-07-2008, 07:54 PM
I'm going to guess the DVX user is Kyle Stebbins slamming the beer in the black wife beater?
Haha! Just caught this, Tommy! -- Diggin the dude's hairstyle and drinking form!!
Mark Harris
06-10-2008, 07:11 PM
Nice, now we are really done, compressed and ready to upload! Onto the next project.
Blaine
06-10-2008, 07:13 PM
Congrats on finishing. We have many miles to go before we sleep...
Mark Harris
06-10-2008, 07:17 PM
Yeah, but compared to previous entries, you guys are WAY ahead. :)
TimurCivan
06-10-2008, 07:26 PM
SWEET cant wait to see RPDM fully done!
Zak Forsman
06-11-2008, 02:57 AM
This is my horse. RPDM to win!
joshreluctant
06-11-2008, 03:02 AM
second and third stills are total sales. haha.
Mark Harris
06-11-2008, 05:22 AM
This is my horse. RPDM to win!
Er...riiiight. Yeah. Um. Riiiiiight.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_jCR4_w1d8Tc/RzuCenjSF7I/AAAAAAAAAEc/-bF234v-IZk/s400/office+space.png
Zak Forsman
06-11-2008, 05:23 AM
can't sleep... dickin' around late at night...
http://www.isarapix.org/pix4/1213184069.jpg
Mark Harris
06-11-2008, 05:24 AM
second and third stills are total sales. haha.
Total sales?
Mark Harris
06-11-2008, 05:25 AM
can't sleep... dickin' around late at night...
http://www.isarapix.org/pix14/1213183363.jpg
Ha ha, nice dude. Can we keep it? :)
Zak Forsman
06-11-2008, 05:29 AM
i f*cked up the biling block. misspelled the title. hang on.
Mark Harris
06-11-2008, 05:30 AM
LOL, you must be tired. It's 4 letters! :)
Zak Forsman
06-11-2008, 05:34 AM
http://www.isarapix.org/pix4/1213184069.jpg
Zak Forsman
06-11-2008, 05:35 AM
fixed. good night. i can send you the photoshop file if you want it.
Mark Harris
06-11-2008, 05:37 AM
sure. Thanks!!!!
M
Zak Forsman
06-11-2008, 05:48 AM
coming via email. i hereby grant you full license to alter, manipulate, revise, blah-blah, blah-blah, blah-blah... as you see fit.
Mark Harris
06-11-2008, 06:15 AM
thanks bro!
Mark Johnson
06-11-2008, 07:54 AM
Jeez - that is sweet! Zak you rule!
conrad_johnson
06-13-2008, 06:14 PM
Shiny new poster. Thanks Zak!!!!
You're good at this shiz.
Zak Forsman
06-13-2008, 08:07 PM
i know you guys aren't asking for them, but your framegrabs are so compelling i can't help myself.... this one brings the sexy.....
http://www.isarapix.org/pix11/1213445736.jpg
Drew Ott
06-13-2008, 08:34 PM
Zak those posters are awesome man.
Mark Harris
06-14-2008, 01:13 AM
wow, I think we got a new one, Zak. Thanks!
conrad_johnson
06-15-2008, 08:47 AM
New new Shiny poster. Zak is da man!
Mark Johnson
06-15-2008, 09:35 AM
Zak fooking rules. Suddenly after seeing Zak's poster I want to see this film!
(just kidding.... I'm in BIG TIME for anything that Harris directs. That sucker is twisted and you know its gonna be a noir sex/guns/drugs killer flick)
TimurCivan
06-15-2008, 11:47 AM
I wish i could have been on set, i would have shot a few images for a poster....
TimurCivan
06-15-2008, 11:50 AM
im working on one for constance...... :)
Mark Harris
06-15-2008, 12:04 PM
NOICE!!!!!!!! Dude.
Herman Witkam
06-15-2008, 01:09 PM
Nice one, Zak!
im working on one for constance...... :)
yess!!! :)
Mark Harris
06-16-2008, 09:04 AM
Approved, babies!!! :)
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-17-2008, 11:29 AM
Awesome! Look for an early review from yours truly.
BTW, nice work on the poster, Zak! :thumbup:
Mark Harris
06-17-2008, 12:15 PM
Thanks, I hope it pleases...:)
Dustin R. Rogan
06-17-2008, 12:23 PM
another acronym titled movie. You sir will kick arse!
conrad_johnson
06-17-2008, 12:24 PM
T.D.R.P.D.M
we should combine forces.
Dustin R. Rogan
06-17-2008, 12:27 PM
T.D.R.P.D.M
we should combine forces.
lol you might change your mind once you see my movie...lol
jk
I do require a nude appearance in all my movies btw
Rogan
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-17-2008, 12:31 PM
R.P.D.M.
I always think of Carpe diem when I see it.
Mark Harris
06-17-2008, 01:09 PM
R.P.D.M.
I always think of Carpe diem when I see it.
As well you should...
Matt Sconce
06-18-2008, 01:41 PM
How's it going guys? On pins and needles for people too see your movie? I know I am.
Mark Harris
06-18-2008, 02:01 PM
Well I think joe has already moved on and made another film, and I have been working and writing. I am working on feature ideas now and forcing myself to write write write.
But yeah, pretty excited for this fest to start. Even though I will be upstate at a wedding this weekend so will likely miss the kick-off...
Matt Sconce
06-18-2008, 02:12 PM
Well I think joe has already moved on and made another film, and I have been working and writing. I am working on feature ideas now and forcing myself to write write write.
But yeah, pretty excited for this fest to start. Even though I will be upstate at a wedding this weekend so will likely miss the kick-off...
Sweet! Write Write Write! I know how difficult that process can be. The feature script for Stricken is at Action on Film this year, and I am working on another now. Have fun and I look forward to your movie!:Drogar-Happy(DBG):
conrad_johnson
06-18-2008, 02:14 PM
I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really want some feedback so I can make better movies/images.
And I can't wait to see the other entries!
-joey
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-19-2008, 01:23 PM
This was really F'ing good!
I'll comment more later. I can't really think of anything that really bothered me while watching this one. Excellent work! You guys should be extremely proud.
Cheers!
Mike
bosindy
06-19-2008, 02:42 PM
That was totally amazing. What a brave performance by your actress. she was on the money throughout and hit the beats perfectly in the VO.
the opening was as good as I've seen in these fests. The use of camera speeds was so creative and the cinematography was hot.
Great work!
One plot point that escaped me was the the RP makes soldiers experiences move faster, yet it makes the recreational users experience seem longer. Was it the reverse engineering that caused this? wasn't sure.
Really strong entry though. I absolutely loved the ending. I have a feeling this one is going to do really well.
Jim
Kholi
06-19-2008, 02:48 PM
You is riskay.
Beat Takeshi
06-19-2008, 02:55 PM
I love this film. I usually do not like voice overs but this one jerked me off. I loved the look of this, I loved the suggestion of the head being blown off instead of some cheesy effect. The incorporation of the slo mo shots fit perfectly. I can relate to his downfall being a boob man and all.
bosindy
06-19-2008, 03:18 PM
I can relate to his downfall being a boob man and all.
good to see your convalescence has gone well Aram. LOL
hazelwould
06-19-2008, 03:24 PM
Great flick!
Mark Harris
06-19-2008, 03:37 PM
You is riskay.
See the Easter Egg I planted just for you?
Mark Harris
06-19-2008, 03:40 PM
One plot point that escaped me was the the RP makes soldiers experiences move faster, yet it makes the recreational users experience seem longer. Was it the reverse engineering that caused this? wasn't sure.
Yeah, that's what that line is meant to communicate. Someone got hold of it and altered it to reverse the effect for recreational use. thanks for checking us out!
Beat Takeshi
06-19-2008, 03:40 PM
See the Easter Egg I planted just for you?
yeah it was in his mouth.
Kholi
06-19-2008, 03:42 PM
Cthulhu stamp? I LOL'd.
Mark Harris
06-19-2008, 03:42 PM
"Why Choose the Lesser Evil?" :)
jasonthewho
06-19-2008, 05:38 PM
Awesome. Loved it. Great sound, cinematography, wonderful editing, great performances. Like how nothing is explained too much.
My one complaint is the same as Jim's. I was confused on first viewing why things went slower for the druggies when they went faster for the military. I think just one more line of VO would solve this.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-19-2008, 05:39 PM
Cthulhu stamp? I LOL'd.
Tentacle tentacle squish squish.
:thumbsup:
ZFarms Productions
06-19-2008, 05:57 PM
great short. voice over worked. (not a big fan of it used a lot, but worked for this)
acting was great. the make up and effects of the dead guy was AWESOME! loved the lighting, camera work (the speed up, slow down was really cool). well written and directed as well.
Ben Sliker
06-19-2008, 07:44 PM
This movie is the sh*t.
And I have to say, the best use of the theme of time i've seen so far. Great work guys.
Drew Ott
06-19-2008, 08:26 PM
Loved it. So much style. Color was great and it just looked fantastic.
Story was awesome as well. Ending was perfect.
Normally I would have said that there should have been more back story about who people were, but it wasn't about that.
Great short film. Can't wait to see what's next for you guys.
justin ewart
06-19-2008, 08:51 PM
Great Concept! Very original. And I don't think it was confusing at all, because there was that line about how someone at Berkley reverse engineered the drug... Otherwise the production values were really strong, good acting, lighting, strong sound. The only thing I wasn't crazy about was your titles. With such a slick interesting concept I would consider employing some after effects for titles. Otherwise, really great short!
conrad_johnson
06-19-2008, 08:55 PM
Hey, I made those in AE. I'm just not any good at it. :)
Jason Ramsey
06-19-2008, 09:14 PM
Ok. Great job all around guys. Execution was really nice.
How did you like working with the HPX500 on this?
I liked the use of varied frame rates.
V.O. was nice and worked well for me.
Mark: Kudos for getting something in the fest that's actually a competing entry :)
My one and only technical beef. The ramp towards the end when he throws her off the couch... The 60fps comes through very strong visually and kinda throws me for a second out of things. Then the ramp comes through and it's all nice, though not as effective as it might have been had you started it during one of the falls or something. One, it would mask the 60fps early on before the ramp comes in. Two, the ramp might come across stronger visually if it were actually in the middle of a big movement, rather than the relatively static frame while he is on his knees. I'd love to see the moment he starts to get up to have it hit him, and watch him take a lonnngg fall to the floor.
Only reason I say it is b/c aesthetically the real time there looks like it was shot on home video before the ramp kicks in, if that makes sense :)
Maybe the best way to accomplish it would have been to have shot him throwing her down in 24p from one angle, and then cut to another angle as he begins his plunge from the couch and ramp it to the slomo right as he starts to make his exit.
Long way to describe such a little thing :)
Anyways, I'm glad you guys shared this.
Actress was real solid and her subtleties in the v.o. really helped the piece on the whole.
Actor was solid (phillip seymour hoffman looking one:) ). Had a great look, but not as strong dialog wise as the actress.
Only other thing I would say is that the audio at the 3:40 area looked a little weak.
Sorry if I'm nitpicking, but take it as a compliment.
I enjoyed this piece overall. It was well-thought, and well-executed. Felt slightly rushed which is counter to the overall vibe I feel we should be getting in context of the story with everything being slowed down... I might have preferred really taking your time exploring really minute details in more depth... Little things in the norm, but hugely detailed in this state of mind...
I'll shut up now
Thanks.
p.s... Mark, if the stars ever align, I'd love to act for you in one of your short films.
Later,
Jason
conrad_johnson
06-19-2008, 09:20 PM
Good point Jason, I thought that looked a little weird, but couldn't put my finger on it.
You are 'da man.
You need to be there next time I shoot something.
-Joe
justin ewart
06-19-2008, 09:20 PM
Hey, I made those in AE. I'm just not any good at it. :)
haha, well maybe worth bringing someone else in then ;) i think some slick titles would give it that final polish!
Mattykins
06-19-2008, 09:21 PM
As I say: Rolling and Reviewing:
Intro sounds like a commercial for it. SHot so well so far. Haven't even hit one minute. The voice over was crazy. I loved the voice. And it's always the reverse engineering thing that messes things up. An orgasm for a day and a half is one of the many reasons I am jealous of girls. Seems like they have so much more fun...
And quite the insane concept. The body was done so well. Wow Mark, you are blowing me away so far. I am impressed. And just hit 4 minutes. Woah: that is certainly a way to kill someone...haha. Insane stuff.
Mark my man, I am mixing a drink for this one. Cheers from an upstater to a downstater! Amazing. I have nothing negative to say. I have nothing but positives.
-Matt
Mark Harris
06-19-2008, 09:24 PM
Ok. Great job all around guys. Execution was really nice.
How did you like working with the HPX500 on this?
I liked the use of varied frame rates.
V.O. was nice and worked well for me.
Mark: Kudos for getting something in the fest that's actually a competing entry :)
My one and only technical beef. The ramp towards the end when he throws her off the couch... The 60fps comes through very strong visually and kinda throws me for a second out of things. Then the ramp comes through and it's all nice, though not as effective as it might have been had you started it during one of the falls or something. One, it would mask the 60fps early on before the ramp comes in. Two, the ramp might come across stronger visually if it were actually in the middle of a big movement, rather than the relatively static frame while he is on his knees. I'd love to see the moment he starts to get up to have it hit him, and watch him take a lonnngg fall to the floor.
Only reason I say it is b/c aesthetically the real time there looks like it was shot on home video before the ramp kicks in, if that makes sense :)
Maybe the best way to accomplish it would have been to have shot him throwing her down in 24p from one angle, and then cut to another angle as he begins his plunge from the couch and ramp it to the slomo right as he starts to make his exit.
Long way to describe such a little thing :)
Anyways, I'm glad you guys shared this.
Actress was real solid and her subtleties in the v.o. really helped the piece on the whole.
Actor was solid (phillip seymour hoffman looking one:) ). Had a great look, but not as strong dialog wise as the actress.
Only other thing I would say is that the audio at the 3:40 area looked a little weak.
Sorry if I'm nitpicking, but take it as a compliment.
I enjoyed this piece overall. It was well-thought, and well-executed. Felt slightly rushed which is counter to the overall vibe I feel we should be getting in context of the story with everything being slowed down... I might have preferred really taking your time exploring really minute details in more depth... Little things in the norm, but hugely detailed in this state of mind...
I'll shut up now
Thanks.
p.s... Mark, if the stars ever align, I'd love to act for you in one of your short films.
Later,
Jason
Thanks for all of this Jason.
And I think the two shots you suggest might be the only way to accomplish it. The thing I learned about time-remapping is that the shot has to be completely clean to pull it off. No motion blur. I had originally planned on stopping him mid air as he comes down, but there was too much blur to make it work.
Ideally next time I would like to get my hands on a high-speed camera. :)
thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment so thoroughly.
And all you got to do is say the word. I can write something for you...:)
The really great thing about this short was collaborating with joe. We got to the point where we played well off one another. Like the song choice was his. And it fit the 60's tone I wanted so well, I could not have picked a better one myself. We got on the same wavelength. But also we have very different interests, so the boundaries of who is responsible for what were clear and easy to maintain.
but we gave each other a lot of feedback in the back and forth, the edit I did, the CC he did, etc. and we never once strangled one another. :)
Troy Ruff
06-19-2008, 09:39 PM
I really loved this film, It kinda reminded me of my old days.... ahahah minus the killing of course. But really well done. Music was great.
:)
Rodney V. Smith
06-19-2008, 09:45 PM
whoa. f**king whoa. I f**ucking LOVE this film!
Rodney V. Smith
06-19-2008, 09:46 PM
i'm going to go watch it again now.
Existentialist
06-19-2008, 10:04 PM
The first thing about RPDM is without a shadow of a doubt this:
very, very well shot. The scenes and closeups are astounding. I was going "wow".
Concept is great. I just really liked this one. Excellent job.
TimurCivan
06-19-2008, 10:05 PM
I must admit.... MArk told me how this story came about. all i have to say is Hooray for inspiration. great work man.
Mark Harris
06-19-2008, 10:17 PM
timur IN DA HOUSE! Beer number 7 comin' up!
totitefilms
06-20-2008, 01:28 AM
I love your movie! The love scenes are excellent. Keep them coming ;-) Your movie is one of the best movies in this fest.
Justin Kuhn
06-20-2008, 02:06 AM
This movie punched me in the face and took my lunch money to go buy a rock 'n' roll guitar.
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 06:42 AM
This movie punched me in the face and took my lunch money to go buy a rock 'n' roll guitar.
Well if our movie punched you in the face, then your movie shived me with a sharpened spoon and took my genitals to eat.:laugh:
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 06:43 AM
haha, well maybe worth bringing someone else in then ;) i think some slick titles would give it that final polish!
Do you do titles?
I don't know anyone who does.
-Joe
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 06:45 AM
Thanks for all the comments guys. Keep 'em coming!
Postmaster
06-20-2008, 07:07 AM
Excelent! I got 5 favourites - RPDM is one of them.
Great Work.
Frank
Justin Kuhn
06-20-2008, 08:13 AM
Well if our movie punched you in the face, then your movie shived me with a sharpened spoon and took my genitals to eat.:laugh:
Yeah? Our movie is nasty like that, it's true. Well...your movie spit in my food and told me to eat it with a smile. Believe me when I say--I did. :grin:
Moojangles
06-20-2008, 08:30 AM
Definitely in my top 5!
I really enjoyed the style and presentation of this movie. It started great with some nice backstory to connect you to the characters and fill you in and then WHAM right into it.
The ending is fantastic and the overall script was great. Some of the best writing in this fest, no question.
I'd love to see more.
Jeff Anderson
06-20-2008, 09:32 AM
Totally amazing guys. Waiting to let everything sink in and get a good technical watching in before I make any real reviews but this is just fantastic. Amazing job of capturing that raw grit that is life. Very nice work.
Mark Johnson
06-20-2008, 09:35 AM
Muthah!!!! I'm blown away guys. OMG this is a tight dark piece that completely rocks. Harris, this story was amazing and is the best use of 6 minutes I've seen so far. Are your slo-mo sequences twixtorized or warped? Really nicely done and very nicely acted by your total bitchin' lead actress. I'm gonna go back and search your thread regarding the sound track which is INCREDIBLE. Do you discuss getting the rights to the song anywhere? Damn that was Tarentinoesque in terms of the way "Spell on You" completely was magic in the context of the film. Harris, you are the man. Jayzus! Props all around for this one, which will definitely be contending for the top spot of the fest.
Mark Harris
06-20-2008, 09:39 AM
Hey Mark, I am on the way out the door to a wedding, so will not be able to comment more till sunday night.
But Joe will post about getting song rights. It was much easier than we thought it would be and really opened my eyes to more popular music possibilities in the future.
Thanks all. Back on sunday night to hit all the threads I haven't gotten to yet!
Kholi
06-20-2008, 09:40 AM
This is why you should get an iPhone.
Mark Harris
06-20-2008, 09:50 AM
This is why you should get an iPhone.
I would, but I am straight. Besides, this weekend is for lovin my baby(not Jack Stanley) at a bed and breakfast upstate.
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 10:00 AM
Muthah!!!! I'm blown away guys. OMG this is a tight dark piece that completely rocks. Harris, this story was amazing and is the best use of 6 minutes I've seen so far. Are your slo-mo sequences twixtorized or warped? Really nicely done and very nicely acted by your total bitchin' lead actress. I'm gonna go back and search your thread regarding the sound track which is INCREDIBLE. Do you discuss getting the rights to the song anywhere? Damn that was Tarentinoesque in terms of the way "Spell on You" completely was magic in the context of the film. Harris, you are the man. Jayzus! Props all around for this one, which will definitely be contending for the top spot of the fest.
Getting the rights is easy.
All you do is contact (for EMI artists anyway) miscellaneoussyncrequests@emi.com and they ask you some questions (name of production, what artist, how long it appears in the film, stuff like that). You whisk them the money ($350 in this case) then they whisk you a contract, you sign, they countersign. Done!
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 10:02 AM
Granted this took 8hrs of internet research to figure out (I initially thought you had to go through a lawyer, not true, although the lawyers would have you believing differently).
Mark Harris
06-20-2008, 10:02 AM
Getting the rights is easy.
All you do is contact (for EMI artists anyway) miscellaneoussyncrequests@emi.com and they ask you some questions (name of production, what artist, how long it appears in the film, stuff like that). You whisk them the money ($350 in this case) then they whisk you a contract, you sign, they countersign. Done!
But the thing is, it was that cheap because it was a less popular version of the song. I think that is the key thing for indie filmmakers to know. You can get some cool songs cheaper than you think if it's a cover, a not-so-famous version of the song.
See, technically, this short takes place in the future. About 50 yrs. NYC has been nuked and the gov has declared martial law. So soldiers have been forced to put down riots in their home towns. And it freaked them out to have to shoot their family and friends and people they grew up with. So the drug was invented so they would not have to feel it.
But I wanted to imagine in this future, there is also a huge counter-culture ala the 60s, so I wanted the music to have a 60s feel. So when Joe found that song, I was awestruck just how perfectly it fit and gave the feel I wanted.
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 10:05 AM
Yeah, then all you need is the sync rights for the writing.
If we wanted the Jay Hawkins version, We would have had to also pay for the performance rights.
Mark Harris
06-20-2008, 10:07 AM
But I think the bigger point is, Joe Johnson is a fucking stud-muffin.
hazelwould
06-20-2008, 10:09 AM
Hey what lenses did you guys use on for the film?
Simon Höfer
06-20-2008, 10:11 AM
Sick! (in a good way :D more about that later)
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 10:11 AM
Hey what lenses did you guys use on for the film?
Whatever came with the HPX 500 rental. I think it was a fujinon 17-something mm.
It's not as nice a lens as you can get, but it looks good to me.:thumbup:
Mark Harris
06-20-2008, 10:12 AM
Hey what lenses did you guys use on for the film?
Er...Joe knows. I think it was whatever comes with the HPX...
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 10:13 AM
Ha, beat you slowbee.
Mark Johnson
06-20-2008, 10:14 AM
Dude, the Hammond B3 on that version of the song absolutely makes the soundtrack. Great choice and, in fact, I have to say that this is my favorite version of the song ever.
Chris Messineo
06-20-2008, 10:52 AM
Great film. I loved the story. IMHO, slo-mo is so overused in indie film and it was wonderful to see it motivated and used to great effect. Very well done. An early favorite for me.
wesley
06-20-2008, 12:23 PM
wow this one is intense, a real kicker. good work!
Slimothy
06-20-2008, 12:59 PM
Nice! This will be in the top 3 for sure. Harris I think you've outdone yourself. Joe, you did an excellent job w/ the lighting dude. You've got some serious chops, yo. Loved the Slo-Mo effect.
As I said before...Nice!
Imaginate
06-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Wow! The premise is very novel and engrossing. Very dark and authentic. So many people try to pull off crime drama but it can come off very weak. You really handled this material well.
I loved your casting choices and your actors should be applauded for their work. Amazing.
Your use of narration, sound and slow motion totally sold the story. The attention to detail - the terminator comic, the work the dead boyfriend. The plot , the ending... ya this is a masterpiece and you should be very proud of it.
You have a really unique voice. This piece has very strong emotional impact. I watched about 20 films last night and woke up this morning and still felt disturbed by this. Time to take it to the next level. Its feature time. I'd love to have a look at the feature length script that goes along with this story.
Dustin R. Rogan
06-20-2008, 02:05 PM
I have no complaints on your film guys! 10/10! I honestly had no idea what this movie was going to be about. I loved the hell outta it!
Rogan
Blaine
06-20-2008, 02:36 PM
Nice fllm guys. I think this is the most fully realized story you've done yet, Mark. You did a great job using speed changes to tell the story and maintain the pacing. I was glad to see you use the method you did for his drug delivery...worked perfectly with the feel of the story for me. :beer:
Oh, yeah, the use of I Put A Spell On You was inspired. I've got several versions of the song and that sounded like Alan Price's version.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-20-2008, 02:45 PM
I was glad to see you use the method you did for his drug delivery...worked perfectly with the feel of the story for me. :beer:
I think I felt something as well! :happy:
I seriously loved everything about this movie. I'll post an in depth review soon.
Mike
conrad_johnson
06-20-2008, 03:32 PM
Nice fllm guys. I think this is the most fully realized story you've done yet, Mark. You did a great job using speed changes to tell the story and maintain the pacing. I was glad to see you use the method you did for his drug delivery...worked perfectly with the feel of the story for me. :beer:
Oh, yeah, the use of I Put A Spell On You was inspired. I've got several versions of the song and that sounded like Alan Price's version.
It's a band by the name of CA Quintet. They were pretty popular in the late '60s early '70s.
I know Doug Reynolds, the bass player in that band. Conveniently, they own the rights to their music and let us use it for free.:thumbsup:
Blaine
06-20-2008, 03:43 PM
It's a band by the name of CA Quintet. They were pretty popular in the late '60s early '70s.
I know Doug Reynolds, the bass player in that band. Conveniently, they own the rights to their music and let us use it for free.:thumbsup:I'll have to try to find it...:thumbsup:
EDIT: found it on iTunes, it's now in my queue...
Mobie540
06-20-2008, 03:46 PM
Great makeup effects, although the blood splatter isn't consistent with the direction of the shotgun blast. I liked the pacing of this film so much. The speed up, slow down ride and how it connected with the effects of R.P. Great film!
krestofre
06-20-2008, 04:36 PM
As everyone else has said, the speed ramping effects were very well done, and really brough the effects of R.P. home to the viewer. Very smooth transitions as well.
Your sound design was also top notch and really added to the effect and tone of the film.
Nice job!
Maximus
06-20-2008, 08:17 PM
Mark, you put the GRRRR in Gritty! After watching your movies I always feel like I need a shower! LOL. I mean that as a compliment. Your films are so intense, visceral and ballsy! You really make great Film Noir. Not a parody of what was daring and original in the 40s and 50s, but daring and original today. True Film Noir. Great work! One of my favourites.:beer:
alex whitmer
06-20-2008, 08:51 PM
I usually have a lot to say (yeah, we know). This time around, however, about all I can muster is ... awesome.
alex
Mickey Munday
06-20-2008, 09:53 PM
this was well done man. good job. looked great too. beginning, middle and an end. believeable characters, not a second wasted. boom.
MattinSTL
06-20-2008, 10:20 PM
Hmm... nice job. I hope I get to meet you one day Mark... and I hope when that day comes... that you're as cool as you seem... because you seem pretty cool man.
I was looking for this film... and I was sure it would surface... and well... there it is.
Very nice.
STYLZ
06-21-2008, 12:00 AM
I would give this 10 stars but I doubt whether or not it was made for timefest as I do many films I've seen so far, but it is definitely one of the best shorts I have seen on DVXuser and ever, so mannnnnn congrats, you got serious talent my friend.
Beat Takeshi
06-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Hmm... nice job. I hope I get to meet you one day Mark... and I hope when that day comes... that you're as cool as you seem... because you seem pretty cool man.
I was looking for this film... and I was sure it would surface... and well... there it is.
Very nice.
Yeah, he is as cool as he seems... and I'm finicky with who I think is cool.
ZazaCast
06-21-2008, 12:08 AM
This is just an awesome film! I found myself watching it again & again (4 times) and loving it more each time. There's nothing I can mention that hasn't been brought up already.
WOW...you sir, are a true talent. Thank YOU!
Zak Forsman
06-21-2008, 12:50 AM
I would give this 10 stars but I doubt whether or not it was made for timefest as I do many films I've seen so far,
what the f*ck are you talking about, STYLZ? that's pretty presumptuous on your part (and a lot of p-words on my part). you're taking points away because you suspect the filmmakers cheated? you're going to have to back that sh*t up with some motherf*cking evidence.
*sorry for all the swearing, i've been drinking.
bosindy
06-21-2008, 12:53 AM
I would give this 10 stars but I doubt whether or not it was made for timefest as I do many films I've seen so far, .
yeah that is a complete bullsh@t accusation. I love people like this.
Jack Daniel Stanley
06-21-2008, 01:25 AM
What ballz. :shocked:
Listen. Mark's a friend of mine who's been talking about making this film for this fest since the theme was announced. I've been around to personally experience it.
But if you have more than one brain cell you don't have to be know him personally to know that. It's documented in this thread. Unless you think people were just pretending to talk about flying back and forth to work with each other and wrapping shooting etc.
I know for a fact it was made for this fest and furthermore, Mark and Joe (Conrad) are regular fest participant either as non competition or as proper entrants. A fair percentage of ALL the films Mark has made, ever, have been for User fests.
I can't imagine what would motivate such a baseless back handed comment from you??????? It clearly fits the theme! So come on man. Explain yourself.
People work too hard on these things for hit and run stupid comments like that.
Jack Daniel Stanley
06-21-2008, 01:36 AM
what the f*ck are you talking about, STYLZ? that's pretty presumptuous on your part (and a lot of p-words on my part). you're taking points away because you suspect the filmmakers cheated? you're going to have to back that sh*t up with some motherf*cking evidence.
*sorry for all the swearing, i've been drinking.
I've always liked you Zak. :)
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-21-2008, 06:45 AM
I would give this 10 stars but I doubt whether or not it was made for timefest as I do many films I've seen so far, but it is definitely one of the best shorts I have seen on DVXuser and ever, so mannnnnn congrats, you got serious talent my friend.Maybe he's just not convinced that the theme comes through strongly enough in Mark's movie??
i.e. He thinks that Mark had this in the back of his head for a while and just adjusted it to fit the theme.
Maybe that's what he meant?
Still wrong in my opinion but better than what everyone else is assuming.
He should really explain himself. That's a harsh statement to make and dash.
As far as I'm concerned R.P.D.M. nails the theme better than most. :thumbup:
Mike
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-21-2008, 07:14 AM
what the f*ck are you talking about, STYLZ? that's pretty presumptuous on your part (and a lot of p-words on my part). you're taking points away because you suspect the filmmakers cheated? you're going to have to back that sh*t up with some motherf*cking evidence.
*sorry for all the swearing, i've been drinking.That was awesome. :D
Simon Höfer
06-21-2008, 07:14 AM
As far as I'm concerned R.P.D.M. nails the theme better than most. :thumbup:
Mike
Absolutely true! I think it is one of the most original and creative ways to tackle the time theme. I am really impressed by this entry. Technical wise and especially story wise!
You get 10 Stars from me guys!
conrad_johnson
06-21-2008, 07:46 AM
This entry was in no way pre-conceived or produced for anything but Timefest in the time frame for such. This is the third script idea Mark had for this contest and we decided on this one to produce. I watched Mark hammer out the script, then he flew here and we made this movie together.
Maybe I should be flattered that you think it's so good we had to have it sitting on a shelf somewhere and find the right time to release it.
Wow, thanks for all the support guys, this place is incredible.
Rock on.:dankk2::beer::beer:
Mark Johnson
06-21-2008, 07:52 AM
It really is a compliment in some ways that he had those suspicions. This really is a complete package that has it all. Mark is among the very best at crafting stories and you guys hit it out of the park with this one.
Mark Harris
06-21-2008, 12:44 PM
ha ha now I know how jack feels.
pauly_the_hitman
06-21-2008, 01:43 PM
Wow great story. Great shots and amazing sfx. I also enjoyed the main character she was awesome. Nice job...
STYLZ
06-21-2008, 01:57 PM
Yeah a little overreacting on everyones parts. I don't spend all my time on here so I don't follow every thread. Guess I'm entitled to my opinion but not entitled to voice them here, but I am convinced it was made for it now. 10 now.
Matty_g
06-21-2008, 01:59 PM
I think you're more than welcome to speak your opinion but when you question someone's filmmaking ethics be prepared for them to defend themselves.
Rodney V. Smith
06-21-2008, 02:10 PM
Yeah a little overreacting on everyones parts. I don't spend all my time on here so I don't follow every thread. Guess I'm entitled to my opinion but not entitled to voice them here, but I am convinced it was made for it now. 10 now.
You're definitely entitled to voice your opinion but accusing someone of cheating is just one step from accusing them of stealing. This is the one film I've seen in the fest that completely nailed the whole theme of time all the way through. it was phenomenal and simple in the story and execution and probably made more than one of us say : "gee, why didn't I think of THAT?" Maybe that was what triggered that response from you and it was most likely kneejerk, but these are some seriously talented guys who are honing their craft in ways that a lot of us wish we could and only aspire to meet their production values.
Voice your opinion, but let it be an informed one and maybe then you can not have all of us jumping on you in their (or anyone elses for that matter) defense.
Rodney V. Smith
06-21-2008, 02:12 PM
you know that annoyed me so much I'm going to go watch it AGAIN!
Dustin R. Rogan
06-21-2008, 02:17 PM
In my top 10 great job guys!
Rogan
STYLZ
06-21-2008, 02:30 PM
You're definitely entitled to voice your opinion but accusing someone of cheating is just one step from accusing them of stealing. This is the one film I've seen in the fest that completely nailed the whole theme of time all the way through. it was phenomenal and simple in the story and execution and probably made more than one of us say : "gee, why didn't I think of THAT?" Maybe that was what triggered that response from you and it was most likely kneejerk, but these are some seriously talented guys who are honing their craft in ways that a lot of us wish we could and only aspire to meet their production values.
Voice your opinion, but let it be an informed one and maybe then you can not have all of us jumping on you in their (or anyone elses for that matter) defense.
Let's get some things straight, A.) I never accused anyone of cheating. I said "I" wasn't convinced. That is an opinion. B.) Let's not twist my words trying to make it seem like I said they weren't good at what they do, did I not say it is one of the best shorts I have ever seen? The whole Time theme was lost on me, guess because I'm not as intelligent as the rest of you. I'll watch it again, maybe I missed something.
Rodney V. Smith
06-21-2008, 02:34 PM
Let's get some things straight, A.) I never accused anyone of cheating. I said "I" wasn't convinced. That is an opinion. B.) Let's not twist my words trying to make it seem like I said they weren't good at what they do, did I not say it is one of the best shorts I have ever seen? The whole Time theme was lost on me, guess because I'm not as intelligent as the rest of you. I'll watch it again, maybe I missed something.
Maybe you were expecting "time travel" as opposed to time as the central theme?
Postmaster
06-21-2008, 02:41 PM
The whole Time theme was lost on me, ....
What? RPDM is one of my five 10Star films and not only because it is excelent made, but because it nailed time as a central aspect down like no other.
Frank
STYLZ
06-21-2008, 02:43 PM
Maybe you were expecting "time travel" as opposed to time as the central theme?
Yeah I think that is it. I mean time is a central part of every aspect of our lives, hence the cliche of showing a clock in most films. The most common insert or cut away is probably a clock/watch. No matter the theme of a movie time is always a factor. Thats life. So maybe I was expecting something a little less basic and general.
Matty_g
06-21-2008, 02:45 PM
you don't see how a movie about a drug that effects someone's sense of time as using time as a central theme?
Dustin R. Rogan
06-21-2008, 02:51 PM
What? RPDM is one of my five 10Star films and not only because it is excelent made, but because it nailed time as a central aspect down like no other.
Frank
i know TDRP is one of your 10/10 right...lol jk
I loved this one!
Damn women always druggin the tit...knowing damn well that guys love em! lol i said out loud 'you bitch' when you had the cut scene when she put it on there...cuz i knew what was gonna happen...but he deserved it!
Rogan
Rodney V. Smith
06-21-2008, 02:57 PM
you don't see how a movie about a drug that effects someone's sense of time as using time as a central theme?
plus the fact that they were showing the effects of the differences in time perception all the way through the movie... characters' choices and reactions were all based on their perception of time as well as other characters' relationship wth them. Instead of taking the concept of timetravel that a lot of us chose to portray, they came up with a truly original and at the same time, personal story.
i really, really wish i had written this one.
Susanne G.
06-21-2008, 04:16 PM
This was not only a perfect production. There were a lot of detail work I loved so much. Your main actress has a exceptional charisma. I like the detail of the signature picture of Mark Harris for the drug. And the cat, I love the cat. All the close ups - fantastic and the rythm of the whole film. This is an other film where I thought: What do you doing still in dvxuser?! Fantastic - I enjoyed it so much.
Susanne
Jack Daniel Stanley
06-21-2008, 05:18 PM
Yeah a little overreacting on everyones parts. I don't spend all my time on here so I don't follow every thread. Guess I'm entitled to my opinion but not entitled to voice them here, but I am convinced it was made for it now. 10 now.
When you off-handedly accuse or IMPLY senior respected members and regular fest participants are cheating, you can bet we'll circle the wagons.
You are entitled to your opinion and you may freely express it here. We're also entitled to our opinion which we expressed, namely that your accusation was way off base and that you should be accountable for it.
Let's get some things straight, A.) I never accused anyone of cheating. I said "I" wasn't convinced. That is an opinion.
You insinuated. In a way that's worse than accusation because you don't have any facts to back it up.
If you say "That guy's probably the escaped child molestor the police have been looking for, something about him seems off", that's enough to make soccer moms take their kids off the swing set and go home when "that guy" shows up at the playground.
Stakes are somewhat high in these fests for a number of reasons, among them:
People work hard on their films, they resent it and it lessens their experience when attention is taken away from their films and placed on political type things which may color the way people perceive their film in some way. "Yeah Nike's are rad but they're made by 10 year olds in India strapped to sewing machines" "Yeah your film is rad, but you're probably conning the system and doing something underhanded by entering it here."
Winning. It's very competitive and people want to win the trial by fire, test their mettle. The don't want an effect as described in #1 to hinder that subconsciously, or directly by people thinking that they are in violation of the rules. It's the desire to be the best.
Perhaps least important in terms of what I think actually motivates DVXusers (that do well) but most important on paper - prizes. When there are prizes in place you're messing with people's livelihood. That's gear they may need to make there art, sell to pay their rent, expand their film or videography business, etc.So people's level of investment in terms of their heart, time, and sometimes pocket book is high.
Little statements like yours can
A) be forgotten
B) be aggressively dismissed as bullshi* by people that know
C) have a subconscious effect on people as they rate the films, now seeing this one in somewhat negative light
D) (worst case scenario) spiral into a witch hunt with us getting tons of PM's demanding for the filmmaker's heads, i.e., disqualification. A request we usually find meritless, but none the less the film does not do as well because an underground faction is now convinced that the filmmakers did something wrong but that we won't listen and now the filmmakers are getting away with murder, thus having a direct effect on the films rating as that group of people now attempt to boycott the film out of the running by rating or ranking it into oblivion.
"D" may seem extreme but ... it has happened. Luckily we've been able to stomp on "D" in most instances, or more often than not, as things like this seem to only be said about really good films, the film's following was so strong that said following in conjunction with Barry_S's watchful eye on the way members are voting, have rendered such sabotage attempts nil.
B.) Let's not twist my words trying to make it seem like I said they weren't good at what they do, did I not say it is one of the best shorts I have ever seen? The whole Time theme was lost on me, guess because I'm not as intelligent as the rest of you. I'll watch it again, maybe I missed something.
Being good at what they do or not was never part of the equation. You cast aspersions against their ethics.
If you really just had a question about the theme, why not ask a question about the theme. Rather than imply that the filmmakers are cheating.
"Can someone tell me how this fits the theme? I don't get it." That's a question.
Not:
"I doubt it was made for this fest"
Which is a rule that you have just accused them of breaking. See how one is a question and one is - if not a direct accusation, at least casting aspersions on their character.
Again it's like saying to someone's secretary "I heard your boss was fired for grabbing his secretary's ass at his last job. Don't know if it's true or not for sure, but from a few things he says I don't doubt it at all."
Also your offhanded comment insults the mods who run the contest. We set the rules, we defined the theme. We SCREEN the movies for inclusion. Of course you are free to discuss the movies and which you thought better fit the theme or not, but to say people might not have made the film for the fest is our job to determine and reject for or not. If you REALLY think some films were not made for the fest then please come to us and we will investigate it before you publicly cast a film in a negative light.
As an example of how seriously we take screening out films that were not made for the festival or who don't adhere to the theme, there have been films that were intended to be shown as non competes - exhibition ONLY, not even in competition, and we've run people through the wringer making them justify and explain their film's theme to us before we would even let them screen in EXHIBITION alongside competition films.
Yeah I think that is it. I mean time is a central part of every aspect of our lives, hence the cliche of showing a clock in most films. The most common insert or cut away is probably a clock/watch.
This is an element required by the festival rules so that, guess what .... we can be certain the films were actually made for this fest :) Another part of the rules. I think you can enjoy the fest without carefully reading the rules, but if you are going to imply that people are breaking them you should probably read over them first, which as this statement reveals, you haven't.
No matter the theme of a movie time is always a factor. Thats life. So maybe I was expecting something a little less basic and general.
It's not basic and general at all.
Come on dude. What would be the frickin' point of curating a festival around a theme if we were going to allow such loose interpretations that any film made ever fit said theme.
Let me explain what you missed about this film I guess. Also if you didn't get it I will say that's Mark and Joe's fault, not yours. Maybe you did get it and you just didn't think it fits. I suspect that's the case because the theme and plot are so intertwined that the theme basically is the plot.
**SPOILERS:
--- Girl's boyfriend is killed while on drugs that ELONGATE time. As such the effect is even more gruesome and traumatizing than it would have been.
-- To enact her revenge, merely killing the man responsible would not be enough, he must be killed under the same circumstances, under drugs that will elongate his dying experience and make it even more hellish - this is the way the BF died.
-- For further resonance, and probably the principle idea of the story, since she was subjected to something so awful in literal slow motion, she will exact her revenge under the same drug to extend the satisfaction and pleasure of taking her revenge. Every tug on the rope around his neck, every gagging gurgle he makes will be long sustained sounds, music to her ears.
so ... BF killed before her in slow time, plots to take revenge in altered time as well.
** End spoilers.
Blatant, explicit adherence to theme, not "general" or "basic" or like all of life in any way.
If you want to question something, i.e., adherence to theme, by all means question it. But please don't put such negative assertions out there in such a blasé manner.
STYLZ I'll give you the last word if you'd like (promise), but after that, let's all move on from this topic.
:beer:
bosindy
06-21-2008, 05:57 PM
Yeah a little overreacting on everyones parts. I don't spend all my time on here so I don't follow every thread.
well after people kill themselves to make a film for the fest and document the experience in the thread, its always nice to have someone cavalierly make off hand comments that question their ethics because it would make their head hurt to earn their opinion.
Let's get some things straight, A.) I never accused anyone of cheating. I said "I" wasn't convinced. That is an opinion.
In what universe are opinions and accusations defined as being mutually exclusive?
B.) Let's not twist my words trying to make it seem like I said they weren't good at what they do, did I not say it is one of the best shorts I have ever seen?
Thoroughly irrelevant
The whole Time theme was lost on me, guess because I'm not as intelligent as the rest of you. I'll watch it again, maybe I missed something.
I honor of Aetas I'll try a little Latin, Res ipsa loquitur.
hence the cliche of showing a clock in most films. The most common insert or cut away is probably a clock/watch.
Well having a clock in the film was kinda a requirement for the fest.
Jack Daniel Stanley
06-21-2008, 06:20 PM
Lol, Jim were you typing while I was posting mine? The posts are basically identical point for point, but you say what I do in about 1/4 the words. :D
I think the majority opinion is clear, so let's all avoid a dogpile effect if we can in order to not have the thread totally and utterly derailed with this conversation.
Basically I'd like to end the "for the fest not / accusation or not" discussion so we can stay on topic, but we need to give Skylz the last word if he wants it.
Rodney V. Smith
06-21-2008, 06:26 PM
I only just caught the images of the stamps. Priceless! (the Cthulu i got, just the other one looked so familiar....)
bosindy
06-21-2008, 06:39 PM
Lol, Jim were you typing while I was posting mine? The posts are basically identical point for point, but you say what I do in about 1/4 the words. :D
I think the majority opinion is clear, so let's all avoid a dogpile effect if we can in order to not have the thread totally and utterly derailed with this conversation.
Basically I'd like to end the "for the fest not / accusation or not" discussion so we can stay on topic, but we need to give Skylz the last word if he wants it.
Yeah Jack, you made an excellent argument, I'm just a little "tired" after my first night out since I arrived back on the east coast; and a day full of editing.
Agreed about not derailing the thread. This film has , "wish I could have made it" status with me. Really well done and stylistic. Don't mean to add to the distraction.
Rodney V. Smith
06-21-2008, 06:45 PM
Agreed about not derailing the thread. This film has , "wish I could have made it" status with me.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I LOVE those kinds of films. It's the kind of film that got most of us into making movies in the first place.
TimurCivan
06-21-2008, 08:28 PM
Ahh now its a Mark harris thread.....
STYLZ
06-21-2008, 08:33 PM
OK I just rewatched this and there are two things that I some how didn't catch onto the first time. The reference to a soldier "speeding" through an hour of killing and it seeming like seconds and the part at the end where she says she will have a year to kill him in seconds. That is time manipulation, all other references to time seemed like they weren't being manipulated i.e. "imagine having an orgasm for a day". When I first watched it the dominating theme seemed to be drugs, maybe that threw me off a bit. So I somehow missed those two vital pieces that would of definitely convinced me this was done for timefest. I blame no one for that but myself...and miller lite. I can't think of another time I have been more wrong. I apologize to Mike Harris and anyone else who has been associated with the hard work put into this awesome short.
My intention was not to accuse anyone of cheating, I just had my doubts. Lapse in communication judgment. Zak..could of done without all the cussing though.
Oh and I did read the rules, long time ago, I was aware of the clock or watch being required.
Now on with the praise of this short. Just forget I was ever here. :)
Mark Johnson
06-21-2008, 08:38 PM
I appreciated your apology and explanation STYLZ. No biggie. Now, let's go over to Rogan's thread and laugh at his bare white ass.
Zoidoid
06-21-2008, 08:45 PM
What can I say? This is simply one of the coolest films in the fest and I truly enjoyed it. In fact I've thoroughly enjoyed it each time I decide to watch it (yet again). This is a perfect example of the awesome work that DVXFests can pull out of filmmakers.
I love that this film has an honest-to-goodness bad guy. And though he doesn't have a lot of screen time, he still provides us viewers with a satisfying conclusion to the story. The payoff in this film is tremendous!
Clever, stylish, sexy, and sufficiently violent.
Friggin' awesome short!
ugafan
06-21-2008, 09:21 PM
11, because you delivered boobs.
Mickey Munday
06-21-2008, 10:58 PM
I would give this 10 stars but I doubt whether or not it was made for timefest as I do many films I've seen so far
people had plenty of time to make these films, it's just this guy obvisouly didnt wait until the last minute and slap something together that's all plus he had a talented crew and was not a one man band. i'm willing to bet if you gave him the same time frame and made up a different set of rules he'd be able to do it again if not even better.
it's funny how if something looks "too good" people start assuming people took the easy way out. i'd take that as a compliment if you made that statement about me. that's means my sh^% is tight :)
Ethan Schaefer
06-21-2008, 11:23 PM
I was thoroughly impressed by this.
Great job.
MattinSTL
06-21-2008, 11:44 PM
Stakes are somewhat high in these fests for a number of reasons, among them:
Winning. It's very competitive and people want to win the trial by fire, test their mettle. It's the desire to be the best. So people's level of investment in terms of their heart, time, and sometimes pocket book is high.
I realize that I have number 2 as number 1... but you try and quote only number 2 in the format of your numbered list! It doesn't work!
I can tell you... ALL of you... that as an ordinary guy... there is basically one formula for happiness, and this is it:
For me to be happy, all I really desire is the respect of honorable men... and the love of beautiful women (or maybe just one).
DVXuser has evolved in an incredible way... with remarkable people rising to the top. It's like the $1 bet between the rich guys in Trading Places... the bragging rights to win in a contest of brilliant competitors is more valuable then physical prizes. I'm sure that the filmmakers on the top level of DVXuser are not driven by anything more then the satisfaction of breaking the tape as the leader in a pack of leaders.
*end Chariots of Fire theme here*
11, because you delivered boobs.
I want to thank Mark on behalf of myself and 14 year olds all over the country because in Mark's thread (back in November) "Wonder what the next fest will be..."
...I replied "Breast Fest"... and BAM! Mark delivers! :beer:
disjecta
06-21-2008, 11:58 PM
I haven't read any posts in this thread, nor do I care to but I wanted to say that this was an extraordinary film. I have watched about 15 of the entries so far and this, in my opinion, is the most original. Executing such a complex story in the visual way you did was a great achievement.
Excellent acting, excellent editing, excellent cinematography and a perfect soundtrack.
Every movie has its flaws but with this one, I didn't even care or want to find them because, if they were there, I didn't see them.
Really nice work.
joshreluctant
06-22-2008, 07:47 AM
boooooobs.
opening lines reminded me of spun, that's not necessarily a bad thing. I like being reminded of spun.
Definitely a good flick.
Tim Joy
06-22-2008, 03:38 PM
I especially liked the color change combined with a ramp to slowmo when the bad guys first walked in, and the way you did the gun shot too. Everthing in those moments; sound design, lighting, camera, was all perfect.
This one is one is definitely in my top 3.
Can RPDM help me finish my movie on time next time?
Gary Sconce
06-22-2008, 03:49 PM
This film is so intricate that I felt like it was a long film and not a short. I was very involved with the characters and they seemed so round that I was invested in them. Wonderful job by the writer of the screenplay, great directing ,and great acting! :D What a solid film. :Drogar-Happy(DBG):
Jack Daniel Stanley
06-22-2008, 05:05 PM
Nobody tell Mark and Joe's lead that Mr. Sconce just called her round.
Girls don't like that. :)
Zak Forsman
06-22-2008, 05:12 PM
Nobody tell Mark and Joe's lead that Mr. Sconce just called her round.
Girls don't like that. :)
...unless you're sir-mix-alot.
homer
06-22-2008, 05:21 PM
best film i've seen so far in the competition i still have a few more to see, but by far the best.
and god bless you for putting boobage. god bless you all.
Jack Daniel Stanley
06-22-2008, 05:23 PM
...unless you're sir-mix-alot.
tush-é
:cheesy:
jpsheets
06-22-2008, 06:14 PM
Great job Mark! I have to watch this one again just to learn. Love the varied frame rates. Just simply looks great. Congratulations.
JP
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 06:17 PM
I like the detail of the signature picture of Mark Harris for the drug.
Susanne
http://www.subgenius.com/Graffix/dobbs.jpg
That is actually J.R. "Bob" Dobbs from the Church of the Subgenius (www.subgenius.com), a counter-culture regular from the 80s. I had always loved Subgenius, and when I put Bob in the film, and asked permission, they LOVED it and wanted to be a part.
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 06:20 PM
This entry was in no way pre-conceived or produced for anything but Timefest in the time frame for such. This is the third script idea Mark had for this contest and we decided on this one to produce. I watched Mark hammer out the script, then he flew here and we made this movie together.
Maybe I should be flattered that you think it's so good we had to have it sitting on a shelf somewhere and find the right time to release it.
Wow, thanks for all the support guys, this place is incredible.
Rock on.:dankk2::beer::beer:
Just a little backstory. I first had the idea of a movie based on thiks kind of drug last year when I heard about drugs being developed that enhanced memory. They might be used in the treatment of Alzheimers. And that was an idea I almost did for love fest. Good thing I didn't because Jason Ramsey stepped up and made a movie on the same topic I could have no way competed with.
So when timefest came around, I adapted the drug idea to one that slows down time and the side-effect is that it enhances emotion.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-22-2008, 07:46 PM
This was really F'ing good!
I'll comment more later. I can't really think of anything that really bothered me while watching this one. Excellent work! You guys should be extremely proud.
Cheers!
Mike
I figured that I should back this up... :D
The opening VO drug explanation works very well accompanied by some awesome visuals. I love the green tinge that's added as the bad guys walk in. I also love the colours that follow, very bright and vibrant.
Who did the effects work on the corpse? Outstanding! Really great work. Especially the flash at 3:09. WOW!
Soon after... "Cthulhu for President"... I was sold. :)
The framing that followed was perfect and the story blew me away.
I love watching a movie a second time and finding more hidden gems.
Outstanding work!
Congratulations.
Cheers,
Mike
alex whitmer
06-22-2008, 08:12 PM
Here's a disturbing thought ...
Lets get your Linnea Mohn together with John Abbot Mitchell's Davis Osborne. Now that's a movie begging to be made.
SPOILERS
What a great performance! Love this piece, and so much of its success belongs to her acting skills. Yes the others were good as well, no doubt, but Linnea's performance carried the film.
I didn't get that the VO liked using the F word. Wasn't her cup of tea. Other than that, her voice made for a nice, smooth delivery. Kept it from becoming expositional. Good job.
Excellent cinematic eye candy all around.
Alex
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 08:15 PM
Here's a disturbing thought ...
Lets get your Linnea Mohn together with John Abbot Mitchell's Davis Osborne. Now that's a movie begging to be made.
SPOILERS
What a great performance! Love this piece, and so much of its success belongs to her acting skills. Yes the others were good as well, no doubt, but Linnea's performance carried the film.
I didn't get that the VO liked using the F word. Wasn't her cup of tea. Other than that, her voice made for a nice, smooth delivery.
Excellent cinematic eye candy all around.
Alex
yeah, when we were casting this out of Minn, I told Joe a really great actress would be crucial to making it work. And he sent me some reel from her.
But also I spent most of my time on set with her, directing-wise, pushing her pretty hard to sink into the moments and really try to live them. But the really good thing about her, as much as her skills and talent, is from moment one, she completely put herself in my hands and trusted me. I loved working with her.
TimurCivan
06-22-2008, 08:24 PM
Bee-ubage.....
Ben Sliker
06-22-2008, 08:25 PM
Here's a disturbing thought ...
Lets get your Linnea Mohn together with John Abbot Mitchell's Davis Osborne. Now that's a movie begging to be made.
I can't even imagine the disturbia that would ensue. Oh wait ... yes i can. Mark, I'll travel, let's do this. :)
Seriously, Mark and Joe, this was really just phenomenal, I have to go back and re-watch it again (for like the 4th time), cause it's my favorite of the fest.
alex whitmer
06-22-2008, 08:26 PM
I certainly didn't mean there wasn't a great director and crew behind the performance. It's obvious there was. The chemistry was essential.
That chemistry is also very hard to come by.
Hope you have a celebration planned.
alex
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 08:49 PM
yeah, I get it, Alex. Without an actress like her we would have been sunk, no two ways about it.
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 08:51 PM
edited
TimurCivan
06-22-2008, 09:20 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/stills/southpark_jezebel.flv.jpg
Why wasnt she in your movie?
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-22-2008, 09:21 PM
Heavy Metal meets South Park!
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 09:30 PM
Why wasnt she in your movie?
SAG bullshit.
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 09:57 PM
Heavy Metal meets South Park!
If you haven't, do yourself the favor and go to www.southparkzone.com and watch the episode called: "Major Boobage."
mentatDUKE
06-22-2008, 10:00 PM
Mark, this was an AMAZING film. I really feel it's your best work yet. Looking forward to a feature from you guys. It's really cool to see the regulars cut their teeth on the fests, then graduate to features. The growth is amazing to observe as one watches all their quarterly fest entries back to back.
Congrats to you and your team on crafting such a compelling work. I have so many questions. I'll PM you later.
Great job guys!
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 10:03 PM
Thanks Mentat. You can put questions here in the thread. So that way, Joe can answer DP questions, cc questions, etc. I'll answer the ones I know. :)
Blaine
06-22-2008, 10:11 PM
I'll answer the ones I know. :)Which would be: What's the best kind of beer to serve on set? :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
Mark Harris
06-22-2008, 10:15 PM
Who did the effects work on the corpse?
A guy in Minn named Crist: http://www.myspace.com/metamorphosismakeup
A truly amazing artist and all around Mensch. Joe put together the crew in Minn, and knows Crist. I think Crist had done the make-up on Dear Jane too.
Outstanding! Really great work. Especially the flash at 3:09. WOW!
Yeah, I knew people wouldn't be able to handle a lot of that full on, so I just put those in there. :)
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-22-2008, 10:16 PM
If you haven't, do yourself the favor and go to www.southparkzone.com (http://www.southparkzone.com) and watch the episode called: "Major Boobage."
Almost forgot how much I love that soundtrack!
WOOHOOHOO! Freaking hilarious. :grin:
Thanks for the link.
This one blew me away. I've got a thing for gritty surreal movies like this anyway, and I loved this one. A great example of how voice over should be used if it is used at all. I didn't feel like the monologue was ever redundant, and there was enough breathing room that it wasn't overwhelming. And the speed ramps were perfectly executed. Gotta get my hands on a variable frame rate camera one day . . .
Great work, guys. :)
Matt Sconce
06-23-2008, 12:06 AM
WOW WOW WOW! The production value here is amazing. Your female lead is great and the concept is awesome. The male evil dude, I didn't buy completely. He did have a "Shoot-em up" bad guy feel though. The end worked well and I thought it was a great piece. This is in my top 5 favs guys!
Mark Harris
06-23-2008, 07:03 AM
WOW WOW WOW! The production value here is amazing. Your female lead is great and the concept is awesome. The male evil dude, I didn't buy completely. He did have a "Shoot-em up" bad guy feel though. The end worked well and I thought it was a great piece. This is in my top 5 favs guys!
What, you don't buy a comic-book reading Phillip Seymor Hoffman bad guy? :) Yeah, I admit he is a little iffy. But we decided to try a comic-book angle on this film, where such a bad guy might exist.
Thanks for checking us out!
krestofre
06-23-2008, 07:49 AM
Just for a different take, I thought the Bad guy was totally believeable. The first time I saw him I thought "That guy is psycho." He's got that serial killer "always the quiet ones" look about him which is perfect for the type of film that R.P.D.M. is.
Mark Harris
06-23-2008, 09:29 AM
Just for a different take, I thought the Bad guy was totally believeable. The first time I saw him I thought "That guy is psycho." He's got that serial killer "always the quiet ones" look about him which is perfect for the type of film that R.P.D.M. is.
Well yeah, we thought we could get away with it in this kind of comic-booky movie.
I will get over to your thread tonight. I am way behind due to a wedding that took me out of town this weekend, but catching up as fast as I can!
conrad_johnson
06-23-2008, 09:33 AM
This one blew me away. I've got a thing for gritty surreal movies like this anyway, and I loved this one. A great example of how voice over should be used if it is used at all. I didn't feel like the monologue was ever redundant, and there was enough breathing room that it wasn't overwhelming. And the speed ramps were perfectly executed. Gotta get my hands on a variable frame rate camera one day . . .
Great work, guys. :)
Thank you so much. Mark and I had a lot of fun working together and were already in talks to do another.
Speed ramps were all Mark, he had the idea from the get-go and his exicution was flawless.
Didn't you use the hvx for Four? or am I on crack. If you shot that thing on a DVX im gonna quit the biz.:costumed-smiley-047
Edit: you did shoot that on a dvx!!!! sheesh, im not making anymore films.
ZazaCast
06-23-2008, 09:47 AM
http://www.subgenius.com/Graffix/dobbs.jpg
That is actually J.R. "Bob" Dobbs from the Church of the Subgenius (http://www.subgenius.com), a counter-culture regular from the 80s. I had always loved Subgenius, and when I put Bob in the film, and asked permission, they LOVED it and wanted to be a part.
You inspire me!
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/35446/1214235964.jpg
krestofre
06-23-2008, 09:50 AM
I will get over to your thread tonight. I am way behind due to a wedding that took me out of town this weekend, but catching up as fast as I can!
No worries. I knew the risks picking a title that began with "U". :)
Mark Harris
06-23-2008, 12:00 PM
Are your slo-mo sequences twixtorized or warped?
Just saw this again.
I used time-remapping. Exported high res AVI from Vegas, and then remapped in AE CS3. I found for what I needed, simple remapping did the trick.
Next time though I am moving to FCP. If for no other reason than Joe works with it and exchange will be easier, and automatic duck makes transfer to AE much easier.
chstick
06-23-2008, 12:07 PM
Excellent!
The time-ramping sold it for sure.....the whole 'on drugs' feel/POV.
solid.
TimurCivan
06-23-2008, 12:29 PM
SAG bullshi*.
LMAO!
Mark Harris
06-23-2008, 10:25 PM
I just wanted to throw up another word about just how amazing our make-up guy was. Not only did he do a great job on Linnea, but he also did the "corpse" for us. It makes a very brief appearance in the film, as I had storyboarded it.
But Crist went ahead and built it so that we could shoot it from any angle if we wanted.
WARNING: REALLY REALLY GROSS!!!! NO, SERIUOSLY, REALLY REALLY GROSS. CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK
P.S. - NOT A RICKROLL
Grab: CLICK HERE (http://www.desperatecomfort.com/media/media/rpdm/rpdmgrab10.jpg)
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-23-2008, 10:29 PM
I just wanted to throw up another word about just how amazing our make-up guy was. Not only did he do a great job on Linnea, but he also did the "corpse" for us. It makes a very brief appearance in the film, as I had storyboarded it.
But Crist went ahead and built it so that we could shoot it from any angle if we wanted.
WARNING: REALLY REALLY GROSS!!!! NO, SERIUOSLY, REALLY REALLY GROSS. CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK
P.S. - NOT A RICKROLL
Grab: CLICK HERE (http://www.desperatecomfort.com/media/media/rpdm/rpdmgrab10.jpg)I was able to freeze the flashes in the movie. Showed my wife as well! :D
BTW, I love that he takes the comic out of a protective sleeve. Nice touch!
Mike
Gord.T
06-23-2008, 10:53 PM
Yeah Mark. I have to agree with the sentiments around here. By far my fav from the ol Markster. The story was clean as a whistle. Your best writing yet IMO.
I loved the bad guy too. Good on him and the girls revenge.
If I can speak openly for a sec, that was pretty fkn good.
Shawn Philip Nelson
06-24-2008, 01:16 AM
Woohoo!!! Boobs!!! :-)
Okay, now that thats out of the way, very good movie. I couldn't really tell what was going on untill the end, but it was a fun f1cking ride. Very nice style, thick and vaporizing all at once. The fx, the acting, it was all smooth and enjoyable.
Gord.T
06-24-2008, 02:16 AM
Woohoo!!! Boobs!!! :-)
Okay, now that thats out of the way, very good movie. I couldn't really tell what was going on untill ....
Well, apparently youve never...uhhh, hold on... nah, fk it.
Shawn Philip Nelson
06-24-2008, 02:18 AM
Well, apparently youve never...uhhh, hold on... nah, fk it.
Lol, I don't get it, explain it to me. How the hell do I have one kiddo and another on the way? It makes no sense!!
Gord.T
06-24-2008, 02:29 AM
I don't know Shawn. Maybe the guys can cough something up. I respect you dearly my friend, and am just having fun. I got it totally but, hey man, its the movies I guess.
Zak Forsman
06-24-2008, 03:53 AM
Lol, I don't get it, explain it to me. How the hell do I have one kiddo and another on the way? It makes no sense!!
ask the UPS guy.
Gord.T
06-24-2008, 05:15 AM
ask the UPS guy.
...and maybe the milkman...and the postman...and ... well... hope that helps. :engel017:
//Oh yeah, the Pizza guy. Can't forget the Pizza Guy.
Mark Harris
06-24-2008, 05:53 AM
I am confused by his confusion. But nonetheless, thanks for checking it out, guys.
Why'd you shoot me?
artofsuntzu
06-24-2008, 04:18 PM
Totally dug it!
Noel Evans
06-24-2008, 06:24 PM
Mark, this was fantastic. I really enjoyed the overall look and feel. It flowed very nicely from start to finish. I thought the score was excellent. To find fault anywhere youd really have to nitpick so I gave it my best shot :P
The start of the voiceover sounded a tad like a sales pitch.
At 0.34 the out of focus shot then runs to them in focus, was great and a great editing choice, then the shot looks a tad flat - conversely to the cat in the next shot which is great, and a great cutaway.
At 1.10 theres a window as they are going for it, but the window doesnt seem to motivate the light quite correctly. Then at 1.18 the window seems to have swapped sides. Or you have crossed the line. Beautiful slo mo and lighting there btw. Then at 1.27 your back at original positions and the line is crossed again. Personally I would just flip the shot in the edit and all is well.
This is just an opinion on the set design in that room, junkies are pretty messy beasts. Seemed a bit clean. As I said just an opinion. Then theres this amazing corpse and blood. I dunno the rubbish on the floor to me would, when shes talking about love etc when they are in the throws of passion, have made a good contrast to her perceived reality and the true reality.
At 3.36 the dialogue is a bit quiet.
At 3.57 you create essentially a 2p set up which would put the line parallel to her facing herself, but the prior shot was on a different line. Again not enough recognisable in the shot so a flip in edit would work again.
When he ingests the drug, and I understand why you did it the way you did with time constraint, seemed to quick to hit. Drug goes to stomach then bloodstream as opposed to injected straight into the blood stream.
As I said I loved this short and all of the above is just picking and inane in reality.
Great, great story to watch.
conrad_johnson
06-24-2008, 08:12 PM
Then at 1.18 the window seems to have swapped sides. Or you have crossed the line. Beautiful slo mo and lighting there btw.
Yeah, I noticed the lighting change, but just shot it that way to intensify the action (orgasm shota), but you're totally right.
Damn you for noticing.:cry::cry::cry::2vrolijk_08::2vrolijk_08: :2vrolijk_08:
Mark Harris
06-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Mark, this was fantastic. I really enjoyed the overall look and feel. It flowed very nicely from start to finish. I thought the score was excellent. To find fault anywhere youd really have to nitpick so I gave it my best shot :P
The start of the voiceover sounded a tad like a sales pitch.
At 0.34 the out of focus shot then runs to them in focus, was great and a great editing choice, then the shot looks a tad flat - conversely to the cat in the next shot which is great, and a great cutaway.
At 1.10 theres a window as they are going for it, but the window doesnt seem to motivate the light quite correctly. Then at 1.18 the window seems to have swapped sides. Or you have crossed the line. Beautiful slo mo and lighting there btw. Then at 1.27 your back at original positions and the line is crossed again. Personally I would just flip the shot in the edit and all is well.
This is just an opinion on the set design in that room, junkies are pretty messy beasts. Seemed a bit clean. As I said just an opinion. Then theres this amazing corpse and blood. I dunno the rubbish on the floor to me would, when shes talking about love etc when they are in the throws of passion, have made a good contrast to her perceived reality and the true reality.
yeah, I guess I wasn't being completely clear here. I didn't want them to come off as junkies, so much as young kids in love. So the room is intentionally bare to try to indicate that they jsut don't care about material stuff. I remembered being that young and idealistic once, living in seattle, completely unburdened by junk. Its also why I wanted the bed on the floor without a frame.
But good eye on that stuff.
At 3.57 you create essentially a 2p set up which would put the line parallel to her facing herself, but the prior shot was on a different line. Again not enough recognisable in the shot so a flip in edit would work again.
Wait, are you saying when she's in the bathroom, going from spitting on the tab to standing?
When he ingests the drug, and I understand why you did it the way you did with time constraint, seemed to quick to hit. Drug goes to stomach then bloodstream as opposed to injected straight into the blood stream.
Others have said the same. My girlfriend said, if it hits him that fast, it should be working on her through her skin as well. Which might have been interesting, but yeah, it's done for time.
One thing that got cut was in the scene where she finds him at the party, we have him interacting with another girl, and trying to impress her with his comic books. then she disses him. We were hoping to give the idea that though he is some kind of weird drug lord, he can't get laid, so was soooo willing to go with this coked up black widow.
As I said I loved this short and all of the above is just picking and inane in reality.
Great, great story to watch.
Noel, thanks sooooo much. this is the kind of detailed critique I love to see, very specific and right on point. Again, thanks soooooo much.
You can blame that unmotivated light on Joe. I'll take the hit for the rest :)
Glad you came to check it out.
Horncastle
06-24-2008, 08:48 PM
Mark and Joe,
This was incredible. A really good script based on a brilliant idea, played by utterly convincing actors. But what really got me was the cinematography and the editing, how they fuse together, how you really need to watch closely to see where one ends and the other starts. And then how you have fulfilled the theme of time so well, not just in the storyline but in the craft of film making - ramped speeds, slow motion, fast motion that I don't know whether really to call jump cuts or dropped frames, cut aways that flash across the frame... This is a film to study and learn from, frame by frame.
Jason
Mark Harris
06-24-2008, 08:50 PM
thanks Jason.
joe shot it, I cut it and then he did the CC.
One thing I really wanted to work hard on in this was representing the time element visually, thus hopefully viscerally.
I thought some of the time-remapping came out a hair wonky. We were shooting pretty fast and if you get any motion blur in the footage, that remapping is dead. Doing this again, I would try to get my hands on a high-speed camera, or at least a RED that does 120.
Wow. Just, f'ing wow. This completely blew me away. As soon as I finished it, I pushed 'play' again. Utterly amazing.
I would seriously love to see this expanded. I love how you paced it and narrated it within the six minutes, but I think it has a lot of potential for a longer work. The slow-mo shots to show time dilation were just awesome. Especially when he gets shot -- extremely well-done. The song at the end was perfect.
My single gripe is that I didn't understand until the end that the time frames she was referring to were her perceptions, not literal time. I'm sitting there thinking, "Holy shit, two months? Did they eat?" I don't know if I'm the only one who thought that since I haven't read this whole thread, but one extra line of voice-over could have remedied that. It wasn't a huge deal, because in the final scene when she said he had a year to die before they came in, all was made clear.
Amazing stuff.
Mark Harris
06-24-2008, 09:25 PM
Wow. Just, f'ing wow. This completely blew me away. As soon as I finished it, I pushed 'play' again. Utterly amazing.
I would seriously love to see this expanded. I love how you paced it and narrated it within the six minutes, but I think it has a lot of potential for a longer work. The slow-mo shots to show time dilation were just awesome. Especially when he gets shot -- extremely well-done. The song at the end was perfect.
My single gripe is that I didn't understand until the end that the time frames she was referring to were her perceptions, not literal time. I'm sitting there thinking, "Holy shi*, two months? Did they eat?" I don't know if I'm the only one who thought that since I haven't read this whole thread, but one extra line of voice-over could have remedied that. It wasn't a huge deal, because in the final scene when she said he had a year to die before they came it, all was made clear.
Amazing stuff.
What you never had sex for two months? :)
Good, thanks for the comment about the time thing. So far, you are the first to mention it, but I will defintely keep eyes open on it. I often try to under-write things, in the hopes of staying away from the obvious. But that often gets me into trouble by not being clear enough.
I am mapping out a feature version of this right now. There is a lot more I would like to do with the idea, for sure.
Mike Insane
06-24-2008, 09:36 PM
Killer! Great! One of 2 9's I rated in the festival!
miamivideo
06-24-2008, 10:24 PM
Great short, I really liked the lighting and the acting was great.
Arrik
06-25-2008, 12:18 AM
Wow, I didnt look once at the timer during your flick. Enjoyed it start to finish. No real problems with the story from me. The intro took me right in. Im big on good intro's and you really have a good one. The time element written in coupled with the time remapping works well. Congrats on another kickass film.
Joe, you da man. HPX500 bare? Love the color choice on lighting and CC.
You guys are a great team. Definitely, one of the best this fest.
JackStudios
06-25-2008, 01:38 AM
This is my favorite film in of the fest so far! Good job!!
Mark Harris
06-25-2008, 04:09 AM
Joe, you da man. HPX500 bare? Love the color choice on lighting and CC. .
Yea, Joe liked the DOF that comes out of the box on the HPX. So we rolled with whatever it came with.
really great job guys! definitely my favorite of the festival. A really stellar lead performance, tight story, and I just loved the camera, lighting, and CC work. Awesome.
Jack Daniel Stanley
06-25-2008, 01:30 PM
Damn dude.
I don't really have any large criticisms. My favorite film of yours so far and really great in it's own light. The film works and works well because you are committed to putting honest performances in front of the lens and committed to / realize the importance of capturing in shooting and revealing in editing those moments which allow for connection and empathy.
It's not that I particularly liked this character and felt FOR her (sympathy) but I could feel what she was feeling at times (empathy), the horror of the tragedy, the satisfaction of her act at the end.
The Military line sticks out just a bit to me and I had trouble hearing the "reverse engineered" line which is pretty crucial.
Maybe a little confused about which side of her face the blood is on once we see where the body is etc.
Don't like those flat open white walls in the bedroom scene. A post vignette could do wonders.
Hate the art direction on that white shiny rope. Don't think a rope like that would be practical either, too slippery. Hate it when I see that same rope in any short used for mischief, never seen it in a feature, but it pops up in shorts all the time and always pushes me out a bit. A piano wire would have been oh so elegant. If not, then at least a dingier, not so super white rope.
So that's really all I can find to comment negatively and clearly I had to pick nits to do so.
Got a chill at the end when she is all mad and shit in slow mo doing that thing to him which I am being vague about to not post a spoiler.
Really strong and compelling with a unique voice that was there in your previous works but asserts itself with great confidence, clarity and polish in RPDM.
Mark Harris
06-25-2008, 02:20 PM
thanks for the detailed thoughts, Jack.
MrKilloran
06-25-2008, 03:21 PM
Really cool idea and great lighting,
I liked the drug aspect being used to give the effect of time being slowed down to incredible lengths and that its used for pleasure, pain, and a satisfactory revenge at the end, you definitely used a full spectrum of emotions.
Kholi
06-25-2008, 05:57 PM
By the way, you dudes... before I actually get into a real review tonight I want to say that I saw more than boobies. Well, actually I didn't see boobies because I covered my eyes.
ANYWAY.
I'm glad that you invested the time in creating the science to go with the fiction. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you spent quite a lot of time developing the mechanics of RP and probably spent more time there than actually writing. I may be wrong, just feels like a lot of energy went into the Science, and it's GREATLY appreciated.
I'll be back.
Mark Harris
06-25-2008, 06:02 PM
Well if that isn't a back-handed compliment if i ever heard one....
:)
Yeah, I did a ton of research about this. It started, as I said a few pages back, with research into drugs that are actually in development for enhancing memory. Then that led into study of dopamine in the brain, internal clocks, people experimenting with slowing their own time through dopamine maipulation, reports of people "losing time" through stokes and the like.
And I actually did read about one man's acid trip where he lived two months in the space of four hours. He clearly remembered going to work, eating, drinking, sleeping, walking his dog, 60 days and d60 nights, in that trip. So that is where the idea came from.
Looking forward to hearing more from you later.
Yep, I enjoyed this short too, well done!
Kholi
06-25-2008, 06:32 PM
Well if that isn't a back-handed compliment if i ever heard one....
:)
Yeah, I did a ton of research about this. It started, as I said a few pages back, with research into drugs that are actually in development for enhancing memory. Then that led into study of dopamine in the brain, internal clocks, people experimenting with slowing their own time through dopamine maipulation, reports of people "losing time" through stokes and the like.
And I actually did read about one man's acid trip where he lived two months in the space of four hours. He clearly remembered going to work, eating, drinking, sleeping, walking his dog, 60 days and d60 nights, in that trip. So that is where the idea came from.
Looking forward to hearing more from you later.
Nah, not backhanded. Just meant that it probably took you longer to research than to actually write it. Sure plenty of writing time went into it, I know how it is. MANY drafts deep.