View Full Version : Wrong Time. Wrong Place. a Bob Zimmerman film
Ok just in the early planning stages for this film. But the working title is:
"Wrong Place at the Wrong Time"
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/zimvg/DSC_2376.jpg
Dustin R. Rogan
03-04-2008, 11:04 AM
liking this one, even if there isn't much to look at yet. I know its prolly nothing...but is there something to do with the watches being 9 seconds off?...lol Good Luck
Gohanto
03-04-2008, 11:33 AM
liking this one, even if there isn't much to look at yet. I know its prolly nothing...but is there something to do with the watches being 9 seconds off?...lol Good Luck
Or for that matter, the dates being different.
Good luck with this.
Sorry I missed the date on the clock! Forgot about that one. Yes the date would matter. A few seconds wouldn't matter, but I fixed it anyway.
Well the film is starting to fall into place. The actors are lined up and I hope that doesn't change now. The locations are picked out. I thought of a flaw in my script so I have to change a couple of things but no big deal.
Hopefully we can shoot it around the first of May.
Ok I got my actors lined up for May 4th. I might shoot a few parts before that but most should be done that day. The locations are set.
Only bad news so far is I've lost one of those watches!! It is here someplace. But I can fake it I guess..
one of my main actors is missing? I haven't heard from in about 8 days. No replies on myspace, text messages or emails. I might try and call later today. We are shooting on sunday. I hope he didn't bail out on me. So I'm getting another guy ready just in case. He was going to operate the camera.
Maybe the guy is just really busy.
jasonthewho
05-02-2008, 04:07 AM
Yikes. I hope you find him fast! My actors and crew don't reply to emails, so I feel ya.
He finally sent me a text. He was having phone problems on a trip.
So we are doing the film tomorrow morning at 10am. The weather looks good. It will all be shot outdoors at two different locations. There is one scene in a car. Now if everyone just shows up.
It is done!! I just have to add some music at the end if I decide too. Maybe some minor stuff.
I will also change the name of the film to Wrong Place. Wrong Time.
sfoster
05-12-2008, 11:43 AM
Cool, you have to post some grabs! I've been looking forward to seeing something and your teasing us!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/zimvg/RZ1_0972.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/zimvg/RZ1_0965.jpg
The film is done. Waiting to upload.
Existentialist
06-20-2008, 09:57 AM
Just got done watching your film. Good job!
I really liked how you used the title of the film in with the DJ's voice, that was really goodl.
The line "take a good look at her face because after the bomb goes off...she won't have a face anymore" was a bit much but still made me laugh. We all have a sick sense of humor, I guess.
The only constructive criticism is that there was a bit of overexposure from the sun, looks like you shot close to noon and it was kinda strong. But the story kept me at the edge of my seat, wanting to know what was going to happen next.
Also looks like you used a real Dutch man eh? LOL good job.
Thanks Tony. Yes you had the time of day right. Ludo moved here from Neatherlands and this was his first time acting.
pauly_the_hitman
06-21-2008, 03:53 PM
I liked it but hey I am a sicko so anyway good job. I dug the guy from the Netherlands that was funny. Good job.
ZazaCast
06-22-2008, 07:11 PM
Good job... I didn't really understand what you were going for with the edit & the acting was stiff.
Enjoyed the flick!
Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-22-2008, 09:25 PM
The editing was different, not sure why you used a lot of fades instead of cuts back and forth. I also found the acting a little wooden.
The plus side was that the story was interesting and the ending setup was very cool.
Hope to see you in the next fest.
Mike
Matt Sconce
06-22-2008, 10:42 PM
The editing was different, not sure why you used a lot of fades instead of cuts back and forth. I also found the acting a little wooden.
The plus side was that the story was interesting and the ending setup was very cool.
Hope to see you in the next fest.
Mike
I also was confused by the fades. I did not really believe the acting but I did love the way it ended. They deserved it... Mwahahah!:evil: Congrats on the entry and good luck in the future!
Rodney V. Smith
06-22-2008, 10:53 PM
the fades really threw me out of this from the get go and i never caught my balance after that. It seemed as if the angles just didn't cut together well and you were trying to get around that by fading. A good closeup or a wide shot is always a better cut than using a fade, so maybe try to plan for that next time. Or step up the pace of the editing. One thing I did notice with the editing that stayed with me the entire film was the fact that whenever someone was talking, the shot remained with them. There was hardly any crossover, and then the character would just repeat what the other guy just said. Try to do a cut where instead of trying to preserve dialog and everyone's lines, you cut some of those repititions out, adn when one character is talking, cut to a reaction shot on the other dude, just before he starts to talk. It will give it a much more natural flow.
Your actors were a little wodden, but they gave it a good try. I liked the general tone of the film and the fact that they got what they had coming, but the reactions of the characters took away from the delivery. If I had a bomb that was even going to potentially go off in a minute, i'd be pulling the car over instead of talking about it. either that or chucking that puppy out the window. One way to fix would make that happen a little sooner, and that whole interaction at the end be a little more chaotic...
thanks for the entertainment and I wanna see what you guys come up with next. Good show.
Susanne G.
06-23-2008, 03:09 PM
I like the idea of the story. Unfortunatly I can't say why, but the film didn't take my attention - and have to admit that the film didn't convinced me. Sorry! No matter - I will looking forward to seeing your next film. All my best wishes.
One technical question: Which camera did you use with 15 frames/sec.?
Susanne
I used the DVX100b. Not sure about 15 frames a sec?
Susanne G.
06-23-2008, 04:25 PM
I used the DVX100b. Not sure about 15 frames a sec?
I saw your film with Quick Time Player. If you open window/show filminformation/film fps: here you can find the frames/sec. And your film has exactly 14.98 frames/sec.
First I thought that you used a cellphone or something like this, because I saw your film more in frames as with a movement. So I was a little bit irritated.
I don't know really why your film has only this 14.98 frames/sec. I think you must look what you did with the file which you sent to the TimeFest.
Susanne
This could really benefit from some blocking. Before you even consider the camera angles, figure out where the characters are standing, where they move, where they're looking, etc. In the scene where they meet by the train station, it doesn't make logical sense -- the trains that are coming up behind each of them should have collided since they meet in the middle, unless those shots weren't supposed to be continuous.
The fades instead of cross-cuts didn't flow right for me. Other cross-cuts seemed discontinuous -- i.e. the Dutch guy's sunglasses kept changing. All in all my biggest advice would be to take the camera out of the equation, figure out how the scene plays out, then figure out which angles you want the action to be captured from.
Cheers and good luck on future films.
Those two trains came into the station about 10 minutes apart from different directions. They are normally an hour apart but track repairs changed all that.
It was just one of the many things that went wrong trying to make a movie in 4 hours.
I'm going to have to plan a longer shooting schedule. I saw all this problems and hopefully I learn from them...
Thanks Duff
Blaine
06-25-2008, 10:38 AM
This one had some technical problems that have already been mentioned, the acting was not particularly good, and some of the editing choices were a bit strange but I really liked the concept of your story, even if it wasn't executed perfectly.
As I said the concept was really good, I wished you had taken more time to fully develop the story before shooting it.
I wish I would have had more time ,,,but,,,,,
Blaine I got the idea from a true story. Some terrorist over in Israel made a bomb and set the time wrong. They got blown up instead of the people on the bus. So I just changed it alittle.
I really had fours hours to make this movie. Things go wrong and not many ways to fix them. One of my goals is to plan for more time to shoot.
totitefilms
06-26-2008, 12:31 AM
You got a cool idea. The acting is nice. I just don't like the ending. Maybe you can let them meet each other first then find out right before the bomb goes off that the time has been changed. You did good job putting everything together though. Congrats!
hehe, I liked this, although I thought the acting was a bit unrealistic at times, my phone doesn't change time automatically :shocked: :(
Matt Sconce
06-26-2008, 12:12 PM
hehe, I liked this, although I thought the acting was a bit unrealistic at times, my phone doesn't change time automatically :shocked: :(http://www.allemoticons.com/Sad/Sad_935.gif
Mine does...Mwah ha ha! I still think the ending was awesome.
SPOILER SPOILER
I love that he pulled up to the bomb maker...:violent5:
I think most of them do,,,at least in the USA.
The bomb maker was in the wrong place at the wrong time!! We were going to have the bomb maker as the guy having the affair with the other guys girlfriend. But we didn't have time to work that out.
Thanks
Blaine
06-26-2008, 01:33 PM
I really had fours hours to make this movie. Things go wrong and not many ways to fix them. One of my goals is to plan for more time to shoot.That explains a lot. Hopefully, you'll get a good jump on the next one and we'll get a chance to see what you can really do...:thumbsup:
Edgen
06-28-2008, 01:11 AM
This film had some potential. It felt like there was a never ending amounts of trains arriving and leaving the station.
The blonde actor was absolutely horrible. It felt like a little andre the giant with a funky accent. And why was the dude in a red dress?
Good luck on the next fest and anxious to see some improvements in your script, story, and execution.
Congrats on entering the fest.
The trains scenes were all done in about 30 min. There was train track work going on so the south bound and the north bound train came in right after each other on the same track. I could have done a better editing job.
I didn't like the red shirt (not dress) either. I guess I better take more of a role as the costume person.
Ludo wasn't that bad!! I kind of liked him. I needed a person to play the part of the bombmaker and he volunteered. He do think he was kind of nervous.
Shawn Philip Nelson
06-28-2008, 10:48 AM
Lol, those rascally Dutch people, showing up and offering to make powerful explosives with no questions asked :-).
You shouldn't fade to black in between cuts in a conversation, it's distracting.
jasonthewho
06-30-2008, 06:46 AM
I think all the major technical issues here have been addressed.
I thought this was an improvement over your Lovefest entry. Your storytelling was much better here.
There was so much opportunity for tension at the end of your film. I think even with what you shot, you could edit it faster with some intense music and create a really awesome ending.
Oh, great job getting the sweet train station location.
I know someone who owns that exact same black and red jacket.
Thanks Jason. I learned a great deal making this one. So much I can apply towards my next film.
The train station was a pretty big deal. Amtrak just doesn't let you walk out on the train platform and start filming. You have to talk to this person, then that person. You have to get security to be with you at all times. I had to get five scenes done when both the north and southbound trains are at the station. All in about a 30 minute period. So going through all that and dealing with other people to get my film made was valuable experience.
Danielleus
07-01-2008, 09:21 PM
Hey,
Just caught the film. I liked the idea for this one. I thought the use of someone having to rely on time and then getting it wrong works really well.
I think this could have been imporved with some better sound FX and some tighter editing.
As for the story, I think this could benefit from knowing a bit more about the main character (why the girl did this to him, does he deserve it, etc.) I only say that because I think, as it is, the story relies too heavily on him messing up the time thing. Structurally it seems unmotivated and I was left trying to figure out if this was suppossed to be funny and if so, it would help if I didn't like him. On another note, it could possibly be a good discussion on the nature of revenge if we understood that she didn't deserve it. As it is, it kinda didn't work for me. Partly because I didn't care about him either way, partly because the tension felt like it should have been greater (which could be fixed with fewer words and tighter editing, methinks).
A valiant effort nonetheless with a story/idea that could have gone much farther. I look forward to whatever else you're doing. Hope to see you in the next fest.