The Watchman a Michael Anthony Horrigan Film

[Simon Höfer]

Hey Mike! Your entry was really great! i liked it from the beginning.

The overall production is very professional. The sound design is really good and the mood of your films really get you into the story.

Very well done! Looking forward to more films from you :)

[wesley]

this one grabbed me from the start. every shot chosen works very well and the pacing was perfect. love the hallway shot as well :D

good job and good luck in the fest

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Hey Mike! Your entry was really great! i liked it from the beginning.

The overall production is very professional. The sound design is really good and the mood of your films really get you into the story.

Very well done! Looking forward to more films from you :)Simon, thanks so much for taking the time to comment. I appreciate the professional comment very much. I'm still learning but I really love this hobby. Maybe one day I can turn it into something more, who knows?

Glad that you like the mood of my films, that also meant a lot.

Cheers!

Mike

[Mark Johnson]

Holy Crap! This film is close to flawless in my book. Sound track was incredible. The story was absolute perfection with great details. I was absolutely blown away with how you put this together Michael.

You handled the upstairs hallway scene totally pro. Could have been in any feature and not been any better.

In my opinion the strongest factor is the camera work. The POV shots from inside his car are to die for and the framing of the garbage truck etc. left me speechless. I don't rave about camera work very often, but will in this case. I hope others study this as I think it shows how much you can do with the right choices for handheld and focus. Stuff like the upstairs window shot with her being out of focus really made it for me.

About the only critique I can offer is that I found some of the barrel distortion on your super wides pulled me out of it and there were a couple shots with some chromatic aberration that made me think of the lens instead of the film. However, the editing and grading were terrific and both principal actors were marvelous.

Definitely a work to be proud of and an accomplishment. This is a seriously well crafted film.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

this one grabbed me from the start. every shot chosen works very well and the pacing was perfect. love the hallway shot as well :D

good job and good luck in the festThanks! That hallway scene is a favourite of mine. :evil:

[Ben Sliker]

In the past few days, DVXusers Ben Sliker and Justin Kuhn sat down and chatted over AIM while simultaneously watching the same TIMEFEST films. We call them, "The AIM sessions". Here's their thoughts on "THE WATCHMAN"

happygobo (2:14:32 AM): the watchman?
spesliker (2:14:50 AM): let me find it
happygobo (2:14:52 AM): so you wanna...
happygobo (2:14:55 AM): watch it?
spesliker (2:15:02 AM): yeah
happygobo (2:15:04 AM): AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
spesliker (2:15:07 AM): wow ...
happygobo (2:15:22 AM): that's mad laughter in the text form see
spesliker (2:15:36 AM): i see that
happygobo (2:19:04 AM): got it
spesliker (2:19:07 AM): ok
spesliker (2:19:09 AM): 3
spesliker (2:19:10 AM): 2
spesliker (2:19:11 AM): 1
spesliker (2:19:12 AM): PLAY
spesliker (2:19:30 AM): ... more men in underwear ...
happygobo (2:19:40 AM): very wide there
happygobo (2:19:49 AM): in the doorway.
spesliker (2:20:11 AM): he's got some chops with the HV20
happygobo (2:20:25 AM): yeah it's not too shabby
spesliker (2:20:25 AM): same actor he always uses, he's good
happygobo (2:20:26 AM): lawls
happygobo (2:20:31 AM): oh yeah?
spesliker (2:20:34 AM): yeah
spesliker (2:20:56 AM): not that we can say anything ...
spesliker (2:21:02 AM): he sounds like milton ...
happygobo (2:21:05 AM): I was thinking that
happygobo (2:21:08 AM): yeah he does
spesliker (2:21:24 AM): lol
happygobo (2:21:26 AM): nice look
spesliker (2:21:33 AM): what a bitch ... ha
happygobo (2:21:37 AM): i think he was dancing to that weird noise
happygobo (2:22:04 AM): what's so great about the garbage?
spesliker (2:22:14 AM): he's like OCD i think ...
happygobo (2:22:54 AM): the WATCHman he wears a WATCH and he WATCHes...GET IT
spesliker (2:23:03 AM): it runs deep
happygobo (2:23:15 AM): ooh...
spesliker (2:23:15 AM): PUNCH HER, SHE'S A BITCH, yeah ... you in the mirror.
spesliker (2:23:36 AM): SCARY!!!!
spesliker (2:24:07 AM): we should post these transcripts.
spesliker (2:24:21 AM): HES BEHIND YOU BITCH!!
spesliker (2:24:40 AM): nice, bathroom shots, these need to be in slow mo ...
spesliker (2:25:20 AM): i don't think he was finished, he's got some work to do still.
happygobo (2:26:10 AM): you have logs right?
spesliker (2:26:17 AM): yeah
happygobo (2:26:29 AM): maybe you should post 'em.


Mike, liked the film man, make sure to keep us all up to date when you have a new cut. You push that little cam to it's limits, that's for sure.

Ben

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Mike, liked the film man, make sure to keep us all up to date when you have a new cut. You push that little cam to it's limits, that's for sure.

BenLOL! :grin:

Thanks. :laugh:
BTW, The shot of the hammer is sped up to about 300% until the drop of blood finally falls. Then I slowed it down to around 40% for just that part.

I can't imagine watching all these entries while chatting online.

Cheers,

Mike

[Ben Sliker]

LOL! :grin:
Thanks. :laugh:
I can't imagine watching all these entries while chatting online.


it was tough, yours was definitely one of the more extensive chats. but also pretty hilarious at times. as you can see, they went pretty late into the night, i'm surprised we could still type.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Responses in bold.


Holy Crap! This film is close to flawless in my book. Sound track was incredible. The story was absolute perfection with great details. I was absolutely blown away with how you put this together Michael.
Thanks so much! I really tried to focus on the story.


You handled the upstairs hallway scene totally pro. Could have been in any feature and not been any better.
Quite the compliment, thanks again.

In my opinion the strongest factor is the camera work. The POV shots from inside his car are to die for and the framing of the garbage truck etc. left me speechless. I don't rave about camera work very often, but will in this case. I hope others study this as I think it shows how much you can do with the right choices for handheld and focus. Stuff like the upstairs window shot with her being out of focus really made it for me.
One of my favourite shots as well. Glad you liked it.

About the only critique I can offer is that I found some of the barrel distortion on your super wides pulled me out of it and there were a couple shots with some chromatic aberration that made me think of the lens instead of the film.
Totally agree. I actually thought about blowing those shots up a bit since it is only really noticed on the edges. I decided to leave it though.

However, the editing and grading were terrific and both principal actors were marvelous.
Thanks again, I'll pass some of that on to them.

Definitely a work to be proud of and an accomplishment. This is a seriously well crafted film.
Again, I really appreciate that coming from you.

Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

it was tough, yours was definitely one of the more extensive chats. but also pretty hilarious at times. as you can see, they went pretty late into the night, i'm surprised we could still type.No problem.

I found this portion particularly amusing.

spesliker (2:20:25 AM): same actor he always uses, he's good
happygobo (2:20:26 AM): lawls
happygobo (2:20:31 AM): oh yeah?
spesliker (2:20:34 AM): yeah
spesliker (2:20:56 AM): not that we can say anything ...:grin:

[Mark Johnson]

LOL! :grin:

Thanks. :laugh:
BTW, The shot of the hammer is sped up to about 300% until the drop of blood finally falls. Then I slowed it down to around 40% for just that part.

I can't imagine watching all these entries while chatting online.

Cheers,

Mike

LOVE that insight on the hammer shot!!!!! !!!!!! !!! Great ramping.

Also LOVE the IM chat transcript Ben. Fabulous! I love you guys!

[ZazaCast]

THIS was an excellent film! I found myself drawn in and totally involved (7:40 to 7:42 - write film review). Great job all around...I can't find any negatives.

[Mobie540]

Great main character. I like your take on the time concept. I was hoping for more suspense in the house. I like the reveals at the end--neighborhood watch, leaves door unlocked. Great story, I was drawn in from the beginning.

[Mark Harris]

Well Michael, you remain one of the most solid and original storytellers in the DVXUser fests. For all of the trouble you had in production, this was extremely well put together, and I'm really glad you got it in on time.

You have a really, really good eye for/skill in composition, something I was working on in my own entry.

But your shot choices, like when he's in the house and you choose to keep it off kilter and LOCKED. Love that. I love good use of a static camera. When there is interesting stuff going on in the frame, you really don't need to move the camera around. It's still kind of a sad crutch almost all of TV and movies uses now, moving the camera for the sake of moving it.

Anyway, I feel like you have a grasp on so many elements. As I said, composition, but also building tension, something simple like using the binocular POV so that our field of vision is limited in that part. And that is an OLD film device for building tension and suspense.

Also good use of the guy's hand. I know we know who is going into the house, but that little hand twitch just seemed like a really nice short-hand detail for us.

You should definitely look for some peeps to work with.

Is there more of this? A longer version to come?

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

THIS was an excellent film! I found myself drawn in and totally involved (7:40 to 7:42 - write film review). Great job all around...I can't find any negatives.
Thanks! Love the time stamp. :D

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Great main character. I like your take on the time concept. I was hoping for more suspense in the house. I like the reveals at the end--neighborhood watch, leaves door unlocked. Great story, I was drawn in from the beginning.
Glad it drew you in. Cheers!

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Responses in bold below...


Well Michael, you remain one of the most solid and original storytellers in the DVXUser fests.
That's quite the compliment. I think you may hold that crown though.

For all of the trouble you had in production, this was extremely well put together, and I'm really glad you got it in on time.
Thanks! It was extremely tough. The support I received from you and the others really helped push me along. Thanks for that.

You have a really, really good eye for/skill in composition, something I was working on in my own entry.
You nailed it in your entry. Flawless really.

But your shot choices, like when he's in the house and you choose to keep it off kilter and LOCKED. Love that. I love good use of a static camera. When there is interesting stuff going on in the frame, you really don't need to move the camera around. It's still kind of a sad crutch almost all of TV and movies uses now, moving the camera for the sake of moving it.
I really tried to learn from past mistakes and try new things. I still have a lot to learn.

Anyway, I feel like you have a grasp on so many elements. As I said, composition, but also building tension, something simple like using the binocular POV so that our field of vision is limited in that part. And that is an OLD film device for building tension and suspense.
Very old, I agree. I could have went overboard with it considering the subject manner but I didn't want to be accused of doing a Rear Window remake. :D

Also good use of the guy's hand. I know we know who is going into the house, but that little hand twitch just seemed like a really nice short-hand detail for us.
Thanks!

You should definitely look for some peeps to work with.
I know! It is really hard out here though. They all move off to Toronto. I bet I'm the only guy from Ottawa here, yet there are plenty from the Toronto area. :(

Is there more of this? A longer version to come?
Yes. About a minute and a half of extra footage, mainly from one scene I had to cut. I also want to add one scene that looks deeper into his psychosis. I just want to wait until I hear back from everyone.

Thanks again, Mark!

Good luck with your awesome entry.

Mike

[alex whitmer]

Oh man, what's not to like about this film? Great job!

Seems I heard whispers of this back when I was writing the DVX article. (?)

I guess if I had to nit-pik it would be the actress' second costume was not very flattering. Her first fit her to a tee. I got that she could kick some serious butt if provoked. Sorta had that Laura croft thing going on. Feminine, and deadly.

All your camera shots were right on the money. I was expecting a CU of the Watchman hiding up the hall, and was so pleased you went for the long shot.

It was all the more menacing.

The watchman did a great job. Had his compulsive disorder well in hand.

You certainly know how to match pace with genre.

Alex

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Responses in bold below...


Oh man, what's not to like about this film? Great job!
Thanks!

Seems I heard whispers of this back when I was writing the DVX article. (?)
Yes. When you asked me to write an article for it back in May this was the idea I was taking about. I came up with it while walking my dog one night. :)

I guess if I had to nit-pik it would be the actress' second costume was not very flattering. Her first fit her to a tee. I got that she could kick some serious butt if provoked. Sorta had that Laura croft thing going on. Feminine, and deadly.
Thanks. I went for realism and asked her to bring two outfits that she wears to bed. The daytime outfit was chosen by me, I asked for something dressy and sleek, but dark. She gave me a few options.

All your camera shots were right on the money. I was expecting a CU of the Watchman hiding up the hall, and was so pleased you went for the long shot.
It was all the more menacing.
Glad you liked the choice!

The watchman did a great job. Had his compulsive disorder well in hand.
Ian is an excellent actor.

You certainly know how to match pace with genre.
Thanks for that comment especially.

Alex

Cheers!

Mike

[Matt Sconce]

This was creepy! I thought it was a well done short film and a creepy and very intelligent evil genius in your actor. I think all of them did great and I enjoyed the film a lot.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

This was creepy! I thought it was a well done short film and a creepy and very intelligent evil genius in your actor. I think all of them did great and I enjoyed the film a lot.Thanks a bunch! :laugh:

[mik]

I really don't know what to say... A very well done job, man!

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

For those who might be interested...
The cast was convinced that the world was against us on this shoot, aside from the weather and computer problems. Here's a great example!

We set up a shoot for the daytime garbage day confrontation between Ian and Jenn. The weather had forced us to reschedule countless times.
Finally the weather was cooperating! Lucky for us since this would be Jenn's last available day to shoot before the fest deadline.

We talk on the phone, the weather is good, we give it the green light.

Just before they show up I hear this obnoxiously loud noise coming from outside, it sounds like a giant vacuum cleaner!
I look out the window and see a truck with large hoses running from it and leading into the house next door. They are getting their air ducts cleaned.

The cast shows up and they are shaking their heads as they approach the door. They know as well as I do that this is just par for the course.

We discuss things and just figure... "Hell, this can't take that long!??"

After close to an hour I head outside to see if this will ever end. The driver informs me that after this house he's doing two more.
The one on the other side of my house and the one next to that. I kid you not!! I was defeated. :(

I walk back into the house to deliver the bad news. I was against ADR'ing this scene! It never comes out right for me and I lose the live dynamic.

We're close to calling it and giving up as far as a Fest entry goes when Jenn says... "Let me talk to him."

After a few moments she's back in the house and says... "Let's go! We have at most half an hour!"

Turned out that it takes them close to half an hour before they are done setting up for the next house and the real noise begins all over again.
Closer to 20 minutes actually.

We ran out and shot the entire confrontation scene over the garbage can during that time. 20 minutes at most.
All the while trying our best to keep things (and noises) around us out of the scene.

Mike

[mik]

Well... now that you mention ADR i only noticed in one line from the watchman (when he get caught). The rest was perfect.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Well... now that you mention ADR i only noticed in one line from the watchman (when he get caught). The rest was perfect.Do you mean her first line? Maybe it got shifted out of synch on the timeline. I'll have to check it.

We recorded ADR for that scene but I never used it. The same intensity just wasn't there.

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Here are some grabs from a scene that's in the Director's Cut.
I had to cut this scene due to time.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1214248937.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1214248967.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1214249008.jpg



Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

In case someone wonders if I broke any rules... :)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1214254361.jpg

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I really don't know what to say... A very well done job, man!Missed this. I must have been typing that long post around the time you posted this.

Thanks for the compliment! :thumbsup:

[Mike Insane]

great story, great feel to the film. Really well done. The only constructive critism is that for the confrontation scene, the mics seemed a little bit far away. Believe me that this is a nit-picky thing! It was still good audio... so it may be a personal preference. Man I loved this film! Good job.

[Duff]

Nothing bad to say about this film. Really solid work, all around. Seriously chilling characterization. This is definitely among the best entries I've seen so far.

[AmyO]

Great work Michael. Amazing photography, and your lead actor was just about perfect. He didn't push the neurotic angle too hard, which was nice. The score was subtle and added a nice level to the mood. I liked the framing of the hallway scene. Cramped and all off to one side lending a feeling of being off-balance. Nice touch. All around a great film. :)

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

great story, great feel to the film. Really well done. The only constructive critism is that for the confrontation scene, the mics seemed a little bit far away. Believe me that this is a nit-picky thing! It was still good audio... so it may be a personal preference. Man I loved this film! Good job.At the beginning of their meet and greet the mic was a bit of a distance away from her. I kind of liked the sound so I didn't try to boost it.

Nice catch! As they got close to one another it was pretty even. Glad you still thought it was good audio.

Cheers!

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Nothing bad to say about this film. Really solid work, all around. Seriously chilling characterization. This is definitely among the best entries I've seen so far.Thanks! To be grouped among the best in this fest is quite the compliment. I had a real tough time making this one, glad you thought it was worth the effort. Next time I'm going to get a crew if it kills me though!

:dankk2:

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Great work Michael. Amazing photography, and your lead actor was just about perfect. He didn't push the neurotic angle too hard, which was nice. The score was subtle and added a nice level to the mood. I liked the framing of the hallway scene. Cramped and all off to one side lending a feeling of being off-balance. Nice touch. All around a great film. :)Thanks!
I tried to focus on my framing this time around. I usually rush it since I'm also setting up the lighting, mic, etc...
This time around I took my time with it. Except for a couple of scenes that we had to rush due to time constraints. I usually have a lot of moments in my films where I go... "man, I really should have shot that differently."

This is the first one that I am personally satisfied with. For the most part anyway. :D

I'm happy that someone mentioned the score again! I used Justin's music at key moments and it really seemed to fit the mood. He's an amazing talent.
I believe some of the actors are now watching this thread so they'll be happy to read the nice compliment as well.

Cheers!

Mike

[Marlon Ladd]

We ran out and shot the entire confrontation scene over the garbage can during that time. 20 minutes at most.
All the while trying our best to keep things (and noises) around us out of the scene.

Mike


Mike, are you kidding?!! That's nuts! LOL. The things indie filmmakers have to endure. I can't believe you shot that dialogue scene so fast. It turned out really good and convincing. I think that scene really set up everything with the movie. Even though it was a short dialogue scene, you got from the conversation that there was a tension that already existed between the two of them. Excellent work. The shots from the deleted scenes look good too. When are you gonna' put that in??

Anyway, yours is no question one of the top ones. You done good.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Mike, are you kidding?!! That's nuts! LOL. The things indie filmmakers have to endure. I can't believe you shot that dialogue scene so fast. It turned out really good and convincing. I think that scene really set up everything with the movie. Even though it was a short dialogue scene, you got from the conversation that there was a tension that already existed between the two of them. Excellent work. The shots from the deleted scenes look good too. When are you gonna' put that in??

Anyway, yours is no question one of the top ones. You done good.Thanks! Yah, shooting that scene was especially hectic. I think we got about three takes done.

I should have the Director's Cut finished before the end of the Festival for sure.

:thumbsup:

[Marlon Ladd]

Cool, Mike. Sent you a PM.

[Gary Sconce]

Absolutely chilling... I finished watching it and immediately started it again. I wish you had included the side view of the compulsive killer waiting for the husband to take the dog out instead of just his torso and arm. I missed him the first time seeing it because of the lack of humaness in the coat and lack of motion. Some slight focus issues in the hallway, but that kind of added to the effect of us wondering where he was.

As a 'time' compulsive, I found him a bit too clean in his appearance. But this was inconsistant. His hair was very nice and he had a neatly groomed beard, yet he did not tuck in his shirt. Many OCD individuals I have known have other parts of their lives that they neglect. I would have liked to see some of that in your main character.

I really liked this film. It is one of the best in the fest. A hearty well done!

[Slimothy]

Hey Michael, I agree w/ the others that this is top of the fest. I feel like it's a step up as well for you which is the goal. To get better each time. This was one of the few that I watched more then 2 times. I think the actors did a great job and there was some cool suspense here.

Nice :thumbsup:

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Absolutely chilling... I finished watching it and immediately started it again. I wish you had included the side view of the compulsive killer waiting for the husband to take the dog out instead of just his torso and arm. I missed him the first time seeing it because of the lack of humaness in the coat and lack of motion. Some slight focus issues in the hallway, but that kind of added to the effect of us wondering where he was.

As a 'time' compulsive, I found him a bit too clean in his appearance. But this was inconsistant. His hair was very nice and he had a neatly groomed beard, yet he did not tuck in his shirt. Many OCD individuals I have known have other parts of their lives that they neglect. I would have liked to see some of that in your main character.

I really liked this film. It is one of the best in the fest. A hearty well done!

Thanks! Glad you liked it enough to watch it twice!
Thanks for the "one of the best" comment as well. :)

I thought that the hand shot before he came out was enough of a heads up. I actually also like that he is almost off frame.
It was a personal choice. You do have to look for him as he's hiding.

The focus in the hallway was locked. It never changed and that was deliberate.
We may flesh out his quirks in the Director's Cut just a tad.

Glad that you found it all interesting enough to make some well constructed comments!

Cheers!

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Hey Michael, I agree w/ the others that this is top of the fest. I feel like it's a step up as well for you which is the goal. To get better each time. This was one of the few that I watched more then 2 times. I think the actors did a great job and there was some cool suspense here.

Nice :thumbsup:
Thanks, man. :thumbsup:

I appreciate it.

Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Bring it on! :)

I've had quite a few positive reviews this fest (which is very new to me) and I really appreciate all of them.

Now, for those who are willing... I would like to see a little more constructive criticism. Especially from those who have already posted comments.
If you haven't commented yet... please go with your initial gut reaction. You can pick it apart later.

Now, constructive criticism is always welcome. Baseless bashing is not. :D
It will help myself and my cast improve so I'm all for it.

Have at it.

Cheers,

Mike

[Simon Höfer]

Your film sucked!


















:D

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I can always count on Simon.

:D

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

Nice! my wife and I enjoyed this, nice and entertaining.

Technically I enjoyed the hitchcock'esque shooting style, though your opening frame was pretty bad lighting.

Good acting by your actors too! Especially the twitchy guy.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Nice! my wife and I enjoyed this, nice and entertaining.

Technically I enjoyed the hitchcock'esque shooting style, though your opening frame was pretty bad lighting.

Good acting by your actors too! Especially the twitchy guy.Thanks, Shawn. Everything was lit with natural lighting and/or household lamps, including the opening scene.
I'm actually quite proud of that considering the camera.
I'm glad that you both enjoyed it.

Cheers!

Mike

[STYLZ]

Yeah, one of my favorites as well. Nice take on the time theme too. Can't believe this was shot on hv20 with no adapter. That little camera shines here.

Your character reminds me of a character I created in a script I posted here a long time ago, and your actor played him wonderfully. Good job.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Yeah, one of my favorites as well. Nice take on the time theme too. Can't believe this was shot on hv20 with no adapter. That little camera shines here.

Your character reminds me of a character I created in a script I posted here a long time ago, and your actor played him wonderfully. Good job.Yup, naked HV20, no adapters, just the wide angle for a few shots. I've shot a few short movies with it now so I'm getting to know how it works.

The theme is always an important part of these festivals for me.

In SpyFest (my first fest) I went with a script that John LaBonney wrote about a bumbling spy.

In Hallows Fest the theme was "DARKNESS". I wrote & shot a short about what happens when the sun is longer shining. Loosely based on a prophecy of sorts, JOEL: 315.

For LoveFest I wrote & shot a dramatic story about a little girl who sees a possible future unfold before her through her Music Box.

This time I wanted to do something different since I knew there would be plenty of futuristic time traveling entries. The idea of having someone watching a house came to me one night as I took my dog for his regular walk. Then I thought... what would this person be like? That's when I was able to tie in his obsession with time. It actually goes much deeper than that but we only had six minutes. :)

BTW, I would love to see your script! PM me.

Thanks again for the compliments!

Cheers,

Mike

[jasonthewho]

I watched this a few days back at work, so not the best viewing environment. I really really liked it. Some initial impressions were that the audio was spiking out during the dialogue (might have just been the speakers), that the girl looking in the mirror shot was too long, and that I didn't quite get the ending. I LOVED the shot of her coming down the hallway.

I'm going to give this another view today and then I'll give you some more in-depth commentary.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Looking forward to your in-depth comments! Please use headphones for the full effect. Justin's score rocks. Try not to be distracted either.


Some initial impressions were that the audio was spiking out during the dialogue (might have just been the speakers)
It was probably your speakers. Sounds good to me on decent speakers and you are the first to mention it.

Cheers!

Mike

[Erez Henya]

Such an overwhelming acting by Ian Quick (pun intended by god?). He is a terrific asset to the movie and I'm dying to see him acting again. I see a great career for him.

Lucky you!

[David Jimerson]

I thought this was well-done, in terms of shooting and acting. I'm not sure I understood it, though. I don't get the connection between the guy and the couple. Without that, the whole story seems a little bizarre. I get that he has a disorder, but at the very least, I need some reason why he singled them out. I don't think I saw one -- did I miss something?

[Herman Witkam]

Such an overwhelming acting by Ian Quick (pun intended by god?). He is a terrific asset to the movie and I'm dying to see him acting again. I see a great career for him.

Lucky you!

Hi Erez,

Good to see you here. When did you join up? :D

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Such an overwhelming acting by Ian Quick (pun intended by god?). He is a terrific asset to the movie and I'm dying to see him acting again. I see a great career for him.

Lucky you!I'll pass that on!

Thanks,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I thought this was well-done, in terms of shooting and acting. I'm not sure I understood it, though. I don't get the connection between the guy and the couple. Without that, the whole story seems a little bizarre. I get that he has a disorder, but at the very least, I need some reason why he singled them out. I don't think I saw one -- did I miss something?Well, you are the first to not get it so I'm not sure what to say?

Did you watch it from the beginning? Maybe it didn't download properly for you?

[David Jimerson]

I watched the whole, thing, sure. But I don't follow why he's keeping track of what they do. What's his motivation there? Why is he waiting to watch the trash cans?

[jasonthewho]

Really enjoyed my second viewing. This is a really great entry.

All right here are a few more specific comments.

The dolly shots in the beginning are just a tad crooked. Might have been on purpose, but to me it just looks accidental. Minor detail, but one that could probably be fixed in post.

The audio doesn't peak out or anything in the dialogue scene. That must have just been my speakers or my faulty memory. However, with a better listening environment I found the audio hollow and echoey in this sequence, specifically his lines. I actually watched it without headphones, then listened to the dialogue with headphones. "I couldn't hear "F'ing C*" at all without the headphones.

There is some line crossing in the dialogue sequence. Doesn't really hurt the scene for me, especially considering the off-kilter feel of it, I just wonder if that was intentional or not.

The shot of the watch when he sets the timer in her house looks fantastic.

Her line "honey" leaning over the balcony is hard to hear, especially without headphones.

The ending is confusing for me because its hard to tell where we switch back to the past. I also can't tell what he's doing with the ?laundry basket? and the trash can.

You're one of my favorite filmmakers on this site. Loved Joel and Music Box and this one as well. Keep up the great work.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I watched the whole, thing, sure. But I don't follow why he's keeping track of what they do. What's his motivation there? Why is he waiting to watch the trash cans?As said in the 911 call, he's part of the neighbourhood watch. The notepad also states that it is garbage day and has a +/- timeframe. She screws up the schedule and he snaps.

Cheers,

Mike

[David Jimerson]

If he's hanging out in the neighborhood in the middle of the morning because he's doing neighborhood watch, that probably needs to be established firmly. I didn't get that at all. Seemed to me that he made that up during his 911 call.

So, what I saw was a guy hanging out in his car, watching a particular driveway, knowing the trash was coming, and obsessed with the can getting out to the curb. Obviously he'd done it before, which seemed to me to indicate that he was already focused on those particular people, which begs the question -- why them?

She rebuked him; he plotted his revenge; that's all fine. But the setup, what got him into the car sitting outside their driveway, seems like it needs more explanation, IMO. "He's crazy" isn't enough for me.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Awesome critique! I'll comment below in bold.


Really enjoyed my second viewing. This is a really great entry.

All right here are a few more specific comments.

The dolly shots in the beginning are just a tad crooked. Might have been on purpose, but to me it just looks accidental. Minor detail, but one that could probably be fixed in post.

I leveled the tripod so it may be the room. If you look at the wall on the left it is pretty straight, the window does look off though. I think it's deceiving.

The audio doesn't peak out or anything in the dialogue scene. That must have just been my speakers or my faulty memory.

Glad to hear.

However, with a better listening environment I found the audio hollow and echoey in this sequence, specifically his lines. I actually watched it without headphones, then listened to the dialogue with headphones. "I couldn't hear "F'ing C*" at all without the headphones.

That last part was supposed to be said just under his breath. I can hear it clearly but I know what he's saying so I can understand. The one at the end is much clearer. I could boost it though, not sure if I will.

There is some line crossing in the dialogue sequence. Doesn't really hurt the scene for me, especially considering the off-kilter feel of it, I just wonder if that was intentional or not.

That was definitely intentional, and we were rushed. :)

The shot of the watch when he sets the timer in her house looks fantastic.

Thanks!

Her line "honey" leaning over the balcony is hard to hear, especially without headphones.

I agree that it could use a few more decibels. Good spot.

The ending is confusing for me because its hard to tell where we switch back to the past. I also can't tell what he's doing with the ?laundry basket? and the trash can.

We switch to the past when the scene changes to black and white.

In the present we see him stuffing the bloody raincoat into their laundry basket. In the black and white scene (the past) we see him finding the raincoat in their garbage can. Both scenes are longer in the Director's Cut.

You're one of my favorite filmmakers on this site. Loved Joel and Music Box and this one as well. Keep up the great work.

Considering the company on this forum I'll take that as quite the compliment.

Awesome critique! Thanks for paying extra attention.


Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

If he's hanging out in the neighborhood in the middle of the morning because he's doing neighborhood watch, that probably needs to be established firmly. I didn't get that at all. Seemed to me that he made that up during his 911 call.

So, what I saw was a guy hanging out in his car, watching a particular driveway, knowing the trash was coming, and obsessed with the can getting out to the curb. Obviously he'd done it before, which seemed to me to indicate that he was already focused on those particular people, which begs the question -- why them?

She rebuked him; he plotted his revenge; that's all fine. But the setup, what got him into the car sitting outside their driveway, seems like it needs more explanation, IMO. "He's crazy" isn't enough for me.
I thought it was plenty but no problem. I did what I could within the time frame. I thought it was enough.

Thanks for commenting!

Cheers,

Mike

[David Jimerson]

I thought it was plenty but no problem. I did what I could within the time frame. I thought it was enough.

But even crazy people have reasons why they make the choices they make, why they choose to focus on particular people, places, or things. A character needs motivation, even the crazy ones. :)

Just trying to give constructive feedback.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

But even crazy people have reasons why they make the choices they make, why they choose to focus on particular people, places, or things. A character needs motivation, even the crazy ones. :)

Just trying to give constructive feedback.No problem at all. I actually appreciate it. Even though you are the first to have a problem with this part I still think it's worth going over.

I think I summed up the following within the movie.

1. Character is obsessed with doing everything by a timed schedule. You see that when his schedule is altered so harshly that he snaps. His reaction in the car is not normal. That along with her taunting him is enough. Complete strangers have killed over less.

2. *If you look at the list VERY closely by his mirror you will see that he has an allotted time to watch the neighbours set aside. :)
I don't hit people in the face with this stuff, but it's there if you look for it. *Second shot of the list.

3. As per their heated conversation, they have had this problem before. She mentions that. He has addressed this issue with them before so much so that she even knows the time he wants the garbage out by!

I think that sets up why he's watching and it also shows a past relationship quite clearly. Again, that's just my opinion.

Cheers!

[STYLZ]

If I may. David-The lady eludes to the fact that this is her second time telling him to stay away from her trash. So he noticed before that she didn't put her trash out. Maybe the first time has caused him to keep a closer watch on her. Thats where the movie starts off , the second time.

[Will Clegg]

Hi Mike,

I really enjoyed this film. I thought was simple and elegant and filled the 6 minutes very well. Excellent pacing. I was particularly excited to read that you used only the HV20 - more proof that good performances and a solid story matter far more than using the best cameras and adapters. Well done.

[Geoff_R]

Nice work, Michael. I enjoyed your film and I think it was an improvement on your last piece of work. The cinematography and music worked well here. I thought the pacing was good and I understood your story. Thanks for sharing!

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

If I may. David-The lady eludes to the fact that this is her second time telling him to stay away from her trash. So he noticed before that she didn't put her trash out. Maybe the first time has caused him to keep a closer watch on her. Thats where the movie starts off , the second time.There is definitely a history between them, that's for sure.

Thanks.

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Hi Mike,

I really enjoyed this film. I thought was simple and elegant and filled the 6 minutes very well. Excellent pacing. I was particularly excited to read that you used only the HV20 - more proof that good performances and a solid story matter far more than using the best cameras and adapters. Well done.Thanks so much!
It's hard to compete with the big guns around here so I do my best with what I have. :)

Someone give me a professional camera!
I'll give you a charity receipt. :D

Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Nice work, Michael. I enjoyed your film and I think it was an improvement on your last piece of work. The cinematography and music worked well here. I thought the pacing was good and I understood your story. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much for this.
You know I love your work big time! :thumbup:

I'm taking notes every fest and trying to improve. The funny thing is... this is the first time I've had no crew. I've always been mostly a one man show but I usually have a boom operator at the minimum. Yet I seem to be getting my best reviews this fest. Go figure!

I guess the "blood sweat and tears" pays off in the end. :D

Thanks again so much!

Mike

[Geoff_R]

I think your entry this time around is more disciplined, more intentional.. It's a better piece and worthy of better reviews. For the next fest, try to top yourself again. I think we learn best from watching our films days/weeks later and seeing all the little things we could do better. It's that ability which ultimately allows us to grow into full fledged filmmakers.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I think your entry this time around is more disciplined, more intentional.. It's a better piece and worthy of better reviews. For the next fest, try to top yourself again. I think we learn best from watching our films days/weeks later and seeing all the little things we could do better. It's that ability which ultimately allows us to grow into full fledged filmmakers.I agree.

Thanks again!

I personally have seen a lot growth from many of the filmmakers this Fest.
If this kind of growth continues some of these guys will be making features in no time.
Some are already in the works!

Cheers,

Mike

[Maximus]

I just wanted to concur with the general concensus that this was your best film to date. Even with all the problems you had, you turned out an accomplished work. Maybe pressure really does make diamonds!

One of my top picks.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I just wanted to concur with the general concensus that this was your best film to date. Even with all the problems you had, you turned out an accomplished work. Maybe pressure really does make diamonds!

One of my top picks.Thanks, man. That means a lot.

I think I learned a fair amount during LoveFest.
Without DVXFest I would probably still be at one short film completed.
Thankfully they continue to get me off my arse.

Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Such an overwhelming acting by Ian Quick (pun intended by god?). He is a terrific asset to the movie and I'm dying to see him acting again. I see a great career for him.

Lucky you!Thanks again.

BTW, I listened to some of your music, very good work! :thumbup:

Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I just wanted to thank everyone for their comments and PM's.
If you haven't commented yet, please do.

Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Another grab from the Director's Cut.
Coming soon! :thumbup:

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/ian_mirror.jpg

[Mark Harris]

Congrats again on getting through the weeds and getting this one done, Michael. Look forward to the director's cut and your next film!

[Tim Joy]

I was excited to see this one, eventhough it's not really my favorite genre, (the killing people genre) but while you have some great stuff in there that others have mentioned, overall this short didn't work for me.

I agree that his motivation wasn't totally established. I saw the schedule, but it's too quick to read, and all I saw was "brush teeth 7:XX". I think you could've set up the story better by adding something about how he got this way. Maybe he started doing the neighborhoor watch thing and began taking detailed notes about everyone's schedules, and the OCD thing kicked in really hard and he started getting pscho about it. If he had big lists of everyone's timing with their trash, and then this one woman's was circled from the week before in a big red pen that she missed the trash.... THEN we see how deep the obsession goes. I wanted pages and pages of notes. If anyone starts writing their neighbors schedule down, eventually they'll see weird patterns emerge. Anyone might get suspicious. Maybe she hasn't taken out the trash in 3, 4, 5, weeks. Maybe he is a neat-freak and triple-bags his trash. Just some thoughts.

When we first go outside and hear the lawn mower I was confused as to which guy he was, because there's no clear shot of him before the binoculars scene, and no shot of him getting into the car, and why is he in his car anyway? For a while, I didn't know if he was the guy mowing the lawn, or the one in the car. I thought he was a neighbor, so he could see from his house.?? Maybe if you added a scene where he takes out HIS trash and is eyeing HER trash, and the watch, and his list, then, instead of going back inside the house, he sits in his car to get a better view and quick access to her trash... ...I don't know, just throwing out ideas here again.

The confrontation scene, when he is caught in her driveway, I didn't feel was convincing. I don't know what was missing for me, and it depends a lot on their previous interactions. It also depends on the reason he wants the trash to be out.
I would've liked a tug-of-war with the trash can, ending in it being spilled out with some interesting contents. Stuff that might make you think she is a killer??? We already know why (or should sorta know) he wants the trash OUT, but why does she want the trash IN?

For the murder scene, if the lists of schedules were established, and the time that the husband usually spends walking the dogs averaged, then, he gets the 6 minute window from there, rather than pulling this number out of thin air.
I liked the lock-off shot and reveal of Mr. hammer psycho-killer. It surprised me because I thought he was gonna come out of the shadow on the left... but he didn't...oooo. Very creepy. Great job on the suspense.
The setup for the murder just didn't seem like enough though. If this one woman was responsible for messing up his WHOLE perfect schedule, and she wouldn't submit to the watchman's timing, THEN, maybe I would see that by killing her, he could get everything back together, and his OCD world would be right again. As it is, I don't really feel like I would want her dead just yet.


I see it a lot in these short films that too much attention is payed to the actions of a character, rather than the feelings the character has as a result of GOING through those actions. While a closeup of the hammer and blood dripping is nice, I would prefer to see his face at that moment. It's an opportunity to do a nice rack focus (can you do that with an hv20?) from the hammer to his face, looking at it. Same with the washing the hands thing. It's a cool insert shot, but I want to see him looking in the mirror. THAT'S when you get to know a character, when they are looking at themselves. It might seem obvious, but I have noticed that a LOT more acting, emotion, feeling, etc... comes through the eyes than any other part of the body, especially hands, feet, and other limbs. I'm wishing to see less hands and feet acting and more face and eye acting on many entries, including yours.

One other gripe, and I have to dissagree with some here- The music didn't work for me. I know Justin does some great work here on many different shorts, but this one seemed phoned-in. I wished for more of an arc to the score, and a theme that would help us understand that this guy is pretty crazed about keeping everyone on schedule, and once he takes action and feels that the "problem" has been solved, is again settled. The score seemed one-dimensional, only playing the erie suspense angle.

I could nit-pick about other things, but these are the big ones. I hope my comments help, or at least present some food-for-thought.

The base you have created is very solid. The directing and camera work is very good, especially since you did it alone. I only needed a little more to feel for his character and really want her dead, and perhaps this is a piece that is hindered my the 6 minute time limit; I didn't feel there was much that should be taken out, just more to add.
I haven't seen any of your other movies yet, to see your progression, but this is a very well-done piece that you should be proud of. Congrats!

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Congrats again on getting through the weeds and getting this one done, Michael. Look forward to the director's cut and your next film!
Thanks, Mark.
I can't wait to see what you do next as well.
A feature maybe?

Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Awesome review! I'll comment below in bold...


I was excited to see this one, eventhough it's not really my favorite genre, (the killing people genre) but while you have some great stuff in there that others have mentioned, overall this short didn't work for me.

Well, considering that you just stated that you don't like this type of movie... I'll take it with a grain of salt. :D

I agree that his motivation wasn't totally established. I saw the schedule, but it's too quick to read, and all I saw was "brush teeth 7:XX". I think you could've set up the story better by adding something about how he got this way. Maybe he started doing the neighborhoor watch thing and began taking detailed notes about everyone's schedules, and the OCD thing kicked in really hard and he started getting pscho about it. If he had big lists of everyone's timing with their trash, and then this one woman's was circled from the week before in a big red pen that she missed the trash.... THEN we see how deep the obsession goes. I wanted pages and pages of notes. If anyone starts writing their neighbors schedule down, eventually they'll see weird patterns emerge. Anyone might get suspicious. Maybe she hasn't taken out the trash in 3, 4, 5, weeks. Maybe he is a neat-freak and triple-bags his trash. Just some thoughts.

Cool thought! As you know, it just wasn't the list that substantiated his past with her, the conversation they had more than proved that they have a past of sorts. As for the other comments... I would love to put so many details in but alas... 6 minutes is a tough schedule.

When we first go outside and hear the lawn mower I was confused as to which guy he was, because there's no clear shot of him before the binoculars scene, and no shot of him getting into the car, and why is he in his car anyway? For a while, I didn't know if he was the guy mowing the lawn, or the one in the car. I thought he was a neighbor, so he could see from his house.?? Maybe if you added a scene where he takes out HIS trash and is eyeing HER trash, and the watch, and his list, then, instead of going back inside the house, he sits in his car to get a better view and quick access to her trash... ...I don't know, just throwing out ideas here again.

I think showing him in the car with binoculars is enough. I really don't need to show him getting in the car. Again... time is an issue here.

The confrontation scene, when he is caught in her driveway, I didn't feel was convincing. I don't know what was missing for me, and it depends a lot on their previous interactions. It also depends on the reason he wants the trash to be out.
I would've liked a tug-of-war with the trash can, ending in it being spilled out with some interesting contents. Stuff that might make you think she is a killer??? We already know why (or should sorta know) he wants the trash OUT, but why does she want the trash IN?

That would be lying to the audience and pointing them in a completely wrong direction. Something I'm not a fan of. Maybe for another movie... sure. I really didn't want to have anyone thinking she was a killer though??

For the murder scene, if the lists of schedules were established, and the time that the husband usually spends walking the dogs averaged, then, he gets the 6 minute window from there, rather than pulling this number out of thin air.

The times are established at the end.
He is seen watching him, documenting times and making a note of the unlocked door. You can see the times listed. That scene will be longer and showing him making more notes and listing additional times in the Director's Cut. Once again, I only showed it briefly due to the time limit but it was there.

I liked the lock-off shot and reveal of Mr. hammer psycho-killer. It surprised me because I thought he was gonna come out of the shadow on the left... but he didn't...oooo. Very creepy. Great job on the suspense.

Thanks!

The setup for the murder just didn't seem like enough though. If this one woman was responsible for messing up his WHOLE perfect schedule, and she wouldn't submit to the watchman's timing, THEN, maybe I would see that by killing her, he could get everything back together, and his OCD world would be right again. As it is, I don't really feel like I would want her dead just yet.

He did. :)

One other gripe, and I have to dissagree with some here- The music didn't work for me. I know Justin does some great work here on many different shorts, but this one seemed phoned-in. I wished for more of an arc to the score, and a theme that would help us understand that this guy is pretty crazed about keeping everyone on schedule, and once he takes action and feels that the "problem" has been solved, is again settled. The score seemed one-dimensional, only playing the erie suspense angle.

I used Justin's pre-recorded music for this. He didn't officially score it. I thought it fit rather well considering. So did he. Still, he didn't score it so it wouldn't be his fault. It would be mine.

I could nit-pick about other things, but these are the big ones. I hope my comments help, or at least present some food-for-thought.

Absolutely! Great comments. I think a some of your issues will actually be resolved in the Director's Cut. Not all, but some. Some of your other directions are just not where I'm going creatively.

The base you have created is very solid. The directing and camera work is very good, especially since you did it alone. I only needed a little more to feel for his character and really want her dead, and perhaps this is a piece that is hindered my the 6 minute time limit; I didn't feel there was much that should be taken out, just more to add.

Thanks again! I felt that it was enough but you'll see her spouse adding fuel to the fire in the Director's Cut as well. :D

I haven't seen any of your other movies yet, to see your progression, but this is a very well-done piece that you should be proud of. Congrats!

Thanks again!!


I love reviews like this. Very well thought out and I appreciate your opinions even when some of them don't jive with mine. I also want to say thanks since you took the time to do this considering that you are not even fond of the genre.

Cheers,

Mike

[Mark Harris]

Thanks, Mark.
I can't wait to see what you do next as well.
A feature maybe?

Cheers,

Mike

Sure buddy. Just get your checkbook out and I'll make a feature like TOMORROW.

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

Sure buddy. Just get your checkbook out and I'll make a feature like TOMORROW.

Wimp! I think I'm going to knock out a feature this afternoon. How long can it take? An hour for prep, couple of hours of shooting, badabing, a feature.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Sure buddy. Just get your checkbook out and I'll make a feature like TOMORROW.
Have your people contact my people and we'll have lunch.
:bath:

[bmwergs]

Visually I thought you had some great style - it was claustrophobic and tense. I also found the main character very interesting - he could have been very cliche but you did a good job showing the character's idiosyncrasies without making it too blunt. I even had a moment where I was like "take out the !@#$ing trash, woman!" because I felt the watchman's anxiety.

I thought there was a lot of room for improvement with the female character, however. I don't know whether it was her acting or if maybe the lines were unrealistic, but her first conversation with the guy seemed a little off. Then when she was in the bathroom and heard a faint watch alarm, I didn't understand why she got as concerned as she did. If I were alone in my house and heard a beep, I wouldn't have given it much thought... there are so many electronics that make random noises. It was still a nice touch to have though, because the audience obviously knows exactly what the beeping is.

Overall, I enjoyed it especially for the intriguing main character and visual design. Thanks for making it :-).

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Visually I thought you had some great style - it was claustrophobic and tense. I also found the main character very interesting - he could have been very cliche but you did a good job showing the character's idiosyncrasies without making it too blunt. I even had a moment where I was like "take out the !@#$ing trash, woman!" because I felt the watchman's anxiety.

Thanks! Glad that came across.


Then when she was in the bathroom and heard a faint watch alarm, I didn't understand why she got as concerned as she did. If I were alone in my house and heard a beep, I wouldn't have given it much thought... there are so many electronics that make random noises. It was still a nice touch to have though, because the audience obviously knows exactly what the beeping is. Exactly! That was a little more for the audience, but... there is a creak in the floor that happens right as the beep sounds. This helps to explain her curiosity. :)
Maybe I'll increase its volume for the final cut.



Overall, I enjoyed it especially for the intriguing main character and visual design. Thanks for making it :-).I really appreciate that!
Thanks for watching.

Mike

[Danielleus]

Hey,

Just caught the flick. I really enjoyed it. The visuals were quite nice and I thought you nailed the mood and tone pretty well. The music, sound effects, use of the watch were all very good. I liked how integral "time" fit in to the story here. Nothing tacked on about it.

Overall I liked it. Good work. I can't wait to see more from you.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Hey,

Just caught the flick. I really enjoyed it. The visuals were quite nice and I thought you nailed the mood and tone pretty well. The music, sound effects, use of the watch were all very good. I liked how integral "time" fit in to the story here. Nothing tacked on about it.

Overall I liked it. Good work. I can't wait to see more from you.
Thanks! Glad that you liked the use of the theme as well.
Cheers!

Mike

[iSTy]

another good film, the acting was good, ie the panicking when the time schedule was wrong. Actually, it was all pretty good.

I'm sure there must be people out there that live by the second.

Nice short, wel done. thank you.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

another good film, the acting was good, ie the panicking when the time schedule was wrong. Actually, it was all pretty good.

I'm sure there must be people out there that live by the second.

Nice short, well done. thank you.You're welcome. :laugh:

Glad you liked it!
Nice to see the odd review still dropping in as well.
I'll pass on the acting compliments.

Cheers!

Mike

[jojopop]

I enjoyed this one quite a bit. I'm a huge John Carpenter fan and some of the stuff you pulled off inside the house was a little reminiscent of him. Build up was great, tension was high, and the micromanagement of timing was very cool. I feel like executing that kind of detail in a story can make or break it, and you definitely sold it here.

I also really dig the hallway attack... really reminded me of the Exorcist III.... if you've seen it, you know which shot I'm talking about. But that's still a helluva comparison.

Nice work!!

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I enjoyed this one quite a bit. I'm a huge John Carpenter fan and some of the stuff you pulled off inside the house was a little reminiscent of him. Build up was great, tension was high, and the micromanagement of timing was very cool. I feel like executing that kind of detail in a story can make or break it, and you definitely sold it here.

I also really dig the hallway attack... really reminded me of the Exorcist III.... if you've seen it, you know which shot I'm talking about. But that's still a helluva comparison.

Nice work!!Thanks so much! That's a huge compliment. :shocked:
I'm a big fan of Carpenter's older work.

I've been inspired by a lot of these comments. So much so that I'm thinking of going completely Horror for the next fest, regardless of theme. I think I can make it work. :thumbup:

Thanks again, glad you enjoyed it.

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Did some work on the Director's Cut last night. It's clocking in at around 7:40
Now I just need to do some foley work and edit a bit here and there. Should have it done in a few days.

Cheers,

Mike

[Horncastle]

Hi Mike,

I thought this was a great piece of work and, as a fan of "The Music Box", I think you are creating a style that is recognizably your own. Script, cinematography and acting all came together well - I have nothing major to say, but I'll try to do a little nitpicking.

Near the beginning, when the watchman is in the bathroom, you show him running his finger down his time schedule (twice). I know you needed to do this to setup the character and your story, but I think he would have known his schedule so well he wouldn't have needed to refer to the type-written sheet.

Not sure why you drew our attention to the guy starting up his lawnmower. It seemed a bit of a red herring to me.

I thought the sound of the trash bin being dragged down the asphalt started too early. The watchman was still some way from reaching it and I wondered what the noise was.

The interaction/dialogue between him and his victim was very good. It was entirely convincing and I liked the fact that it left us feeling more empathy for him than for her.

The sound of his watch alarm going off when she is in the bathroom was excellent. Just the little touch that good suspense is made of.

Once again, a great film. Thanks.
Jason

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Thanks for the awesome review! I'll comment below in bold...


Hi Mike,

I thought this was a great piece of work and, as a fan of "The Music Box", I think you are creating a style that is recognizably your own. Script, cinematography and acting all came together well - I have nothing major to say, but I'll try to do a little nitpicking.

A fan!? Sweet! :D Go ahead and pick away. :)

Near the beginning, when the watchman is in the bathroom, you show him running his finger down his time schedule (twice). I know you needed to do this to setup the character and your story, but I think he would have known his schedule so well he wouldn't have needed to refer to the type-written sheet.

He's obsessive about it, so he's always checking it and ensuring that he is on time. That and the second shot is more for the audience who may be paying attention. It lists the time that he will be watching the neighbours. :)

Not sure why you drew our attention to the guy starting up his lawnmower. It seemed a bit of a red herring to me.

Well, The Director's Cut shows him watching a few of the neighbours, I had to cut them for the six minute edit. I just wanted to show that he's watching people.

I thought the sound of the trash bin being dragged down the asphalt started too early. The watchman was still some way from reaching it and I wondered what the noise was.

I started it early. I think that it helps transition the next scene, just a personal choice I guess. I figured that it was too harsh an edit without it.

The interaction/dialogue between him and his victim was very good. It was entirely convincing and I liked the fact that it left us feeling more empathy for him than for her.

Thanks! I'm glad that it made you feel that way.

The sound of his watch alarm going off when she is in the bathroom was excellent. Just the little touch that good suspense is made of.

Thanks again. I wanted to activate her concern. I figured the beep and a small floor creak was the way to go.

Once again, a great film. Thanks.
Jason

Thanks for watching and commenting! So glad that you liked it.

Cheers,

Mike

[ConspiracyPenguin]

Mike, you've done it again! Wondeful piece, just wonderful! The score was great, just what I would expect from Justin. The way you designed the shots was lovely as well, and at points put me in such supense that I wanted to just move the camera myself to see what was around the corner. Great story, one of the most unique takes on this theme I have seen. Best of luck!

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Mike, you've done it again! Wondeful piece, just wonderful! The score was great, just what I would expect from Justin. The way you designed the shots was lovely as well, and at points put me in such supense that I wanted to just move the camera myself to see what was around the corner. Great story, one of the most unique takes on this theme I have seen. Best of luck!

Thanks CP! I appreciate that.
I especially liked the comment about you wanting to move the camera. I was hoping someone would feel that way during the hallway scene. :D

I have to say that I really enjoyed the theme this fest.

Cheers!

Mike

[ConspiracyPenguin]

Thanks CP! I appreciate that.
I especially liked the comment about you wanting to move the camera. I was hoping someone would feel that way during the hallway scene. :D

I have to say that I really enjoyed the theme this fest.

Cheers!

Mike

That was the damn scene I was talking about! I was trying so hard to get the camera to move, but it just wouldn't. :grin: That was a brilliant trick.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

That was the damn scene I was talking about! I was trying so hard to get the camera to move, but it just wouldn't. :grin: That was a brilliant trick.Thanks!

On the eve of the vote I just wanted to once again thank everyone for their reviews and compliments.
I was really overwhelmed this fest by all the support I have received.
Here and via PM. I appreciate them all.

Looking forward to the next fest!

Cheers, :beer:

Mike

[Norm Sanders]

Dude, NICELY DONE! Very impressed. Didn't you make "Joel" as well? I remember the actor from that one I think.

I thought the lead did a FANTASTIC job. Extremely believable, and fun role for him. This film was really extremely simple in some aspects, but just laid everything out so well, with good pacing, wonderful music (I wondered if it was Justin I heard at the beginning, and was glad to see it WAS him that scored it), sound, editing, FX, etc. All very well done.

Great job. Gave it a 10 rating, in my book. It just worked for me that well. :)

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Dude, NICELY DONE! Very impressed. Didn't you make "Joel" as well? I remember the actor from that one I think.

I thought the lead did a FANTASTIC job. Extremely believable, and fun role for him. This film was really extremely simple in some aspects, but just laid everything out so well, with good pacing, wonderful music (I wondered if it was Justin I heard at the beginning, and was glad to see it WAS him that scored it), sound, editing, FX, etc. All very well done.

Great job. Gave it a 10 rating, in my book. It just worked for me that well. :)Friggin fantastic!! I need every vote that I can get. :dankk2:

I'm glad that you found the time to watch it and vote for it.
I really appreciate that.

Ian had a great time with this. First time playing a bad guy.
Yah, same guy from Joel 3:15

Thanks so much, Norm.
Means quite a bit. :beer:


Mike

[ConspiracyPenguin]

I, yoo*, gave it a ten.





*Spelling mistake was way too cool to change.

[Postmaster]

You made it!
Congratulations.

Frank

[Danielleus]

Hey man, congrats. Good work on the piece. Now, round two!!!!!!!!!!

[Zim]

Great job and done a HV20. That is awesome.

[Susanne G.]

Congratulations to the Watchman crew. Best wishes for the 11. July.

Susanne & Jason

[Simon Höfer]

Yeah, congrats man! You can be so proud of yourself :)

[Firemonkey]

Hah, What can I say, other then its really early, I liked it and congratulations, wish I could make it to the Showing unfortunately we will be down one man here at the station with Rogan going, so have a good time, good job

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Congratulations to the Watchman crew.
That would be me! :D


Thanks to everyone who voted and watched!
I can't believe the company that I'm in. That second round list has some really excellent films. I'm honoured to be part of such a list.

Blown away actually.

:dankk2:

I really don't know what to say.

Cheers! :beer:

Mike

[Dustin R. Rogan]

There is a reason why I liked this one, and everything you do Mike! I have the nack for picking winners and you had me at hello...i mean your All Hallows Eve Film Joel 3:16 (thats when I came across the site) But Gratz I'm rooting for you!!

Rogan

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

There is a reason why I liked this one, and everything you do Mike! I have the nack for picking winners and you had me at hello...i mean your All Hallows Eve Film Joel 3:16 (thats when I came across the site) But Gratz I'm rooting for you!!

RoganMeans a lot, dude.

Thanks again!

[Mark Johnson]

Congrats Mike! I loved your film and am so pleased to see that everyone else does too!!!

[Mark Harris]

Noice!!!

[conrad_johnson]

This was one of my favorites.
Now just wait around and do that tappy hand thing until they announce the winners.

[Horncastle]

One man with an HV20 in his pocket!! Congratulations on making it to the last 8, you really deserve it. Best of luck on the 11th.

Jason

[Blaine]

Congratulations, Mike. I didn't realize this was an HV20. :thumbup:

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Thanks so much to everyone! I'm in with some amazing company. I still can't quite believe it. :shocked:




Congratulations, Mike. I didn't realize this was an HV20. :thumbup:
Yah, Blaine. Just my little Canon HV20. :thumbup:
One day I'll get a pro camera but it will have to do for now.




One man with an HV20 in his pocket!! Congratulations on making it to the last 8, you really deserve it. Best of luck on the 11th.

JasonI really didn't think I could pull this off by my lonesome. Almost didn't thanks to some computer problems near the end. CS3 still crashes on me constantly.

I received some great support from the gang here and they pushed me to get her done. :thumbsup:

Really great community here.

Cheers,

Mike

[Zoidoid]

CS3 still crashes on me constantly.

Oh man! You too? I set Premiere's auto-save to every five minutes eventually after looking work twice. It's a shame because I quite like some of the tools that Premiere has. I think I'll have to start looking for a different solution, unfortunately.

Anyway. I cam here to say Congrats! So. Congrats!

[majikfraug]

I didn't know 'til just now that it was a one man deal. I've tried that a few times and was never satisfied with the results. Great job!
Congrats!

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Oh man! You too? I set Premiere's auto-save to every five minutes eventually after looking work twice. It's a shame because I quite like some of the tools that Premiere has. I think I'll have to start looking for a different solution, unfortunately.

Anyway. I cam here to say Congrats! So. Congrats!Thanks!
Do you have the Mac version?

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I didn't know 'til just now that it was a one man deal. I've tried that a few times and was never satisfied with the results. Great job!
Congrats!Thanks! It wasn't easy but it paid off in the end. :beer:

Can't wait to see what you guys come up with next!

Mike

[Slimothy]

Great job dude! I had no doubt this one would make it.


Tim.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Great job dude! I had no doubt this one would make it.


Tim.:dankk2:

I had a few myself... :D

[Edgen]

Hey mike! Congrats maing.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Thanks, Justin!

Thanks again for letting me use your music in a pinch! Great as always.
:beer:

[pauly_the_hitman]

I am so glad you made it in the top 8. You film was one of my favorite in the fest.
-Pauly

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

Congrats! Definitely well deserved to be heading to the final round!

[Marlon Ladd]

Great job, Mike! Sent you a PM.

[Beat Takeshi]

Finally got to watch this one and I love it. It definitely deserves top 10. Great job on the shots and the use of hand held and static at the same time. Nice pacing.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I am so glad you made it in the top 8. You film was one of my favorite in the fest.
-PaulyThanks, man. I appreciate that.


Congrats! Definitely well deserved to be heading to the final round!Thanks! A lot of great entries this round.


Great job, Mike! Sent you a PM.Got it! Replying shortly. Thanks!


Finally got to watch this one and I love it. It definitely deserves top 10. Great job on the shots and the use of hand held and static at the same time. Nice pacing.Thanks so much. Appreciate the compliments.

Thanks, guys!

Looking forward to the big finale.

Cheers!


Mike

[conlanforever]

I really enjoyed this. You did a great job of building the suspense and I loved the confrontation between the watchman and woman over the garbage can. Good acting and the whole thing looked and sounded great.
Very good script. Congratz on making the top 8.

I really enjoyed this film a lot.

[Tom Marshall]

Hey Mike, congrats! I think you did a terrific job with that hv20! I was shocked to read that's what you used. You got some good looking stuff from that.

I thought the story was well-crafted. The only think that I had an issue with is the acting.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I really enjoyed this. You did a great job of building the suspense and I loved the confrontation between the watchman and woman over the garbage can. Good acting and the whole thing looked and sounded great.
Very good script. Congratz on making the top 8.

I really enjoyed this film a lot.
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it... :thumbup:

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Hey Mike, congrats! I think you did a terrific job with that hv20! I was shocked to read that's what you used. You got some good looking stuff from that.

I thought the story was well-crafted. The only think that I had an issue with is the acting.Thanks or checking it out.

I know you're an actor so give me the skinny. What acting bothered you and where? I thought Ian's performance was especially outstanding.

Thanks again, man. I appreciate you taking the time and welcome the critique.

Cheers,

Mike

[tmnt]

Go Mike! Congrats on the top 8. I'm gonna check out your (and the other TF flicks) movie tomorrow, finally have some time...

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Go Mike! Congrats on the top 8. I'm gonna check out your (and the other TF flicks) movie tomorrow, finally have some time...Thanks, man. Hope you enjoy it!

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Sweet! I see some people knocked down my star rating. Now I really feel like one of the in crowd! :D

Cheers, :beer:

Mike

[Mark Harris]

Five stars is soooo last fest.

[acoelho1]

Great Job... I liked your movie the best out of the final 8 and it again illustrates that its the operator and not the equipment thats important in making a quality production.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Great Job... I liked your movie the best out of the final 8 and it again illustrates that its the operator and not the equipment thats important in making a quality production.
Quite the compliment! Glad you enjoyed it.

Cheers!

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Herman Witkam has taken the time to do a new score for The Watchman. It will be aired for the first time during the L.A. premiere.
Hope everyone likes it!

He definitely brought some new life to the hallway scene! :eek:
Once this is all over he has graciously agreed to score the longer Director's Cut.
Very nice of him.

Cheers,

Mike

[Cedric Akins]

Dude got a serious case o OCD.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

LOL! Thanks for watching.

[Marlon Ladd]

Herman Witkam has taken the time to do a new score for The Watchman. It will be aired for the first time during the L.A. premiere.
Hope everyone likes it!

He definitely brought some new life to the hallway scene! :eek:
Once this is all over he has graciously agreed to score the longer Director's Cut.
Very nice of him.

Cheers,

Mike
That's outstanding. We filmmakers all need a great composer to really pull of the art we're trying to display. Can't wait to check it out again.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Thanks, man! Hope you like it.

[Tom Shortridge]

You were robbed.

EDIT - not to say the winners weren't deserving.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

You were robbed.

EDIT - not to say the winners weren't deserving.

The winners are deserving but thanks for the kudos!
Cheers,

Mike

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

For those who might be interested...

I just posted the 8 minute Director's Cut of The Watchman HERE (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1356444#post1356444).

Thanks again to everyone who watched and voted! Hope you like the new cut.

Cheers,

Mike

[John LaBonney]

For those who might be interested...

I just posted the 8 minute Director's Cut of The Watchman HERE (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1356444#post1356444).

Thanks again to everyone who watched and voted! Hope you like the new cut.

Cheers,

Mike

Mike:

Nice work on the director's cut. I liked Herman's score very much. I think you cut exactly the right scene from the movie to make the festival time limit. I actually think that the festival version is a little tighter and that the added scene doesn't add a whole lot. But that's just me.

Again, congratulations on finishing in the final group! Can't wait to see your Twilight film.

John

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Mike:

Nice work on the director's cut. I liked Herman's score very much. I think you cut exactly the right scene from the movie to make the festival time limit. I actually think that the festival version is a little tighter and that the added scene doesn't add a whole lot. But that's just me.

Again, congratulations on finishing in the final group! Can't wait to see your Twilight film.

JohnThanks, man! Well, I think it's helps his motivation. He doesn't simply jump from the garbage can incident to the murder. It also introduces the third character and establishes that Sam has been planning this for quite some time. Watching him every night for at least a week.

Their argument also helps push Sam further over the edge.

These were some problems that some people had. They are now addressed and were part of the original script/shoot.
:)

Herman's score does truly rock!

Cheers,

Mike

[John LaBonney]

Well, I think it's helps his motivation....Their argument also helps push Sam further over the edge.


True, but it's repetitive. The confrontation he has with the woman earlier is almost a repeat of the one he has with the man later. While it accomplishes these goals, the extra scene comes at a price of wearing on the viewer.

I think the festival cut is a bit tighter, but the score in the director's cut is more chilling.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

True, but it's repetitive. The confrontation he has with the woman earlier is almost a repeat of the one he has with the man later. While it accomplishes these goals, the extra scene comes at a price of wearing on the viewer.

I think the festival cut is a bit tighter, but the score in the director's cut is more chilling.Thanks. I think it's too important. He needed more... I always felt that is was too jarring. Pissed at her for screwing up his schedule, then killing here.

It also establishes how he got the idea for the murder and introduces us to the character that he sets up.
Both are needed IMHO.

If a <8 minute film is wearing on the audience it's probably because they are used to the 6 minute cut and have seen it a few times. Kind of like remakes, the original is usually better in the eyes of those who have seen it. Not so in those who haven't. :)

Cheers!

Mike