SINAMON PRODUCTIONS present "NO AIR"

[Simon Höfer]

Good or Bad?

On which side are you?


http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/26393/1204385553.jpg

Tease:
Breathe in as long as you can! The waiting game begins... Limited space and air will unleash your darkest desires! Can you resist?

[Simon Höfer]

Cast / Crew / Production notes...

Cast:
Hugo and Simon as Man #1 and Man #2
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/26393/1210506659.jpg



Crew:

Director and DP - Simon Höfer
Sound and Edit - Sinan Kurtulus
Camera Op: Ben Fehre
Assistants - Kerstin and Melli
Production notes:
After we succesfully failed at finishing our entry for All Hallows fest, here we are again :D

This time it is a much simpler project, so it should be possible to pull off our first Fest entry.

It will be shot on the HVX200.

Good luck everybody!

[Simon Höfer]

Update 19/03/08:
Finished the first draft of the script.

Location is locked as well. Now I have to build the set. Well, it is not alot of work, but it has to be done.

Update 11/03/08:
Bought the first prop today. I paid 5Euros and with this amazing high exchange rate, that makes an astronomical budget of 7.67$ already :D

Update 19/04/08:
Whoa, bought two curtain holders today. That adds 15.81$ to the budget.

Update 11/05/08:
Oh yeah! Wrapped this thing yesterday at 10pm :)

That was a long day, but it was alot of fun! Had to compromise quite a few things, but such is life. Now its time for post production.

I still have to take a few pickup shots and later I have to make lots of audio recording.

Crew:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/26393/1210506501.jpg


Budget breakdown so far:

Prop #1: Book - 7.67$
Prop #2: Curtain Holder - 15.81$
Pen: 5.42$
Cigarettes:6.20$
Gasoline: 40$
Food: 60$


Total: 135.10$

[Matthew R. Rodwell]

lol sorry Simon :(

[Simon Höfer]

No problem, thanks alot for stopping by! Will have a look at your thread soon :)

- Cast pictures added.

[Ted Arabian]

Welcome to the fest!

I love the title and that is a very cool poster. Did you shoot a picture of that smoke? Very interesting.

LOL at the cast and crew! You are gonna be a busy guy! :grin: (btw, my first film was a solo project... a one man show!)

Best of luck to you,

Ted

[Simon Höfer]

Thanks alot Ted!

We have to thank google for the smoke. Did not shoot it ourselves.

Yeah, will be a little bit busy... especially acting and DPing :D But it should be doable!

[Simon Höfer]

Added a little tease to the first post:

Tease:
Breathe in as long as you can! The waiting game begins... Limited space and air will unleash your darkest desires! Can you resist?

[Ted Arabian]

... especially acting and DPing :D But it should be doable!
Well, I am looking forward to your film.

I just love the "do-what-you-gotta-do" style of filmmaking. Not often as glamorous as large crew filmmaking but usually filled with heart and soul.

Best to you,

Ted

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Nice! Like the tease as well...

[Tom Marshall]

Simon! Good luck with this one, man. Sounds interesting... and sounds like you're literally doing everything... :)

[Simon Höfer]

Thanks alot guys!

We had a small meeting at the SINAMON PRODUCTIONS headquarter tonight. Mr. Tripod, Mic Stand and Mr. Steadi just dropped by for a couple of beers.

We are pleased to announce that Mr. Tripod will be our Camera assistant and Mic Stand will be our boom operator. Mr. Steadi would love to be involved in our project too, but right now there seems to be no position that fits. :cheesy:

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/26393/1204394585.jpg

Simon! Good luck with this one, man. Sounds interesting... and sounds like you're literally doing everything... :)

Well, not to forget Sinan Kurtulus. Without him I would be lost.

[Tom Marshall]

Hey, at least you have a China ball. :D

[Simon Höfer]

Yeah, he doesn't talk that much, but where he comes from there are alot more :D Maybe that adds to our production value...

[Cryogenic Filmworks]

Poster looks great. You really should find a couple hot Fräuleins in your picture. Even if they just stand around holding their breath. :evil:

[Simon Höfer]

Bwahaha, I think about that :D Would definately be good for the flow of this thread...

Well, actually this is more of an abstract film. Going into the art direction. Sadly it is not possible to integrate some nice girls storywise.

[Herman Witkam]

Mic Stand? No real boom operator? I guess you're using static shots only :P

[Simon Höfer]

Yep, most of the time :D But like said above, this is not your normal type of entry.

[Simon Höfer]

Well, now that I will write my thesis half a year later (read here (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1217418&postcount=8)), I should have plenty of time to work on my entry :)

Update:
Bought the first prop today. I paid 5Euros and with this amazing high exchange rate, that makes an astronomical budget of 7.67$ already :D

[Simon Höfer]

Update:
Finished the first draft of the script.

Location is locked as well. Now I have to build the set. Well, it is not alot of work, but it has to be done.

[Ted Arabian]

Hey Simon, I was checking out DIY steadicams and I saw your contraption. Pretty Cool!

How did that ever turn out? Do you still use it?

.............

UPDATE....

Well, LMAO! I just looked up through this page of posts and I SEE YOU STEADICAM!!!

I guess you DO still use it.

That looked like a pretty intense DIY project. How well does it work? What changes would you make to it (if any)?

[Simon Höfer]

Hey Ted,
I haven't used it latetly. Actually due to the fact, that I didn't film at all lately. I try to get my ass up with this entry. Even though it doesn't involve the steadicam.

Yeah, it was quite an intense project. Took me much longer to build than expected.

I would say it works quite well, but it definately has some flaws.

1. Main problem is the shell arround the big bearing. The up and down axis is not totally centered. And probably the big bearing is not perfectly aligned horizontally on the main post. That means, I can balance my Stabilizer, but when I pan the camera to the left or right it slightly swings to one direction and is not complete straight anymore.

2. I would build the gimbal connection for the up and down axis different. It was a compromise in the first place, because I was not able to drill big holes into the metal sheets. I used 4 bearings in a way they are not suposed to be used. It works, but is not perfect.

3. Build it as light as possible! It is quite heavy. If possible, try to use aluminum only. I didn't and I see what I've got.

I wanted to improve #1, but didn't follow up. Will probably do that some day.

Thanks for stopping by. So how is your project going along?

Edit: For those who don't know what we are talking about. Here is the thread about the Steadicam I built:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=110415

[Ted Arabian]

Good info there, Simon. Thanks! As much as I want a steadicam, I just don't feel like building on. Seems like they are quite easy to build but the weight issue and the placement of critical parts scare me off!

May attempt one... but I continue to look for a great deal on a used one.

My project? It is on standby as I am working on other things. I'll be getting on my project soon.

Best!

Ted

[Simon Höfer]

Update:
Whoa, bought two curtain holders today. That adds 15.81$ to the budget. makes a total of 23.48$ :D

[ZazaCast]

This is sounding quite interesting, looking forward to it! I know the feeling of the 'one-man show'... I'm with you there. This is going to be fun.

...oh & watch that budget!!! LOL

[Simon Höfer]

Yeah, it will be fun for sure. Will finish the Set quite soon hopefully.

And the budget :D Actually I think it is not going up much more. I've nearly got everything I need. My concept is very simple.

[Beat Takeshi]

Thanks alot guys!

We had a small meeting at the SINAMON PRODUCTIONS headquarter tonight. Mr. Tripod, Mic Stand and Mr. Steadi just dropped by for a couple of beers.

We are pleased to announce that Mr. Tripod will be our Camera assistant and Mic Stand will be our boom operator. Mr. Steadi would love to be involved in our project too, but right now there seems to be no position that fits. :cheesy:

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/26393/1204394585.jpg



Well, not to forget Sinan Kurtulus. Without him I would be lost.

I like that chair in the background there.
Those guys look drunk, I wouldn't work with them.

[Simon Höfer]

I like that chair in the background there.

Yeah, that's the throne of the king...... it's MINE :D

I like it too :) I've got another one and also a suitable couch. Will hopefully use them in one of my future projects.

Update on my entry:
Will probably shoot this thing next Sunday. Still have to setup the set and also prepare one prop.

[scoemlek]

Good luck Simon and Sinan!

[Beat Takeshi]

Get to it! Erase that probably word in there. Thats evil.

[Simon Höfer]

Damn it. Houston, we've got a problem....

My partner Sinan Kurtulus broke his kneecap. Again! Man that sucks, for him and for this project. I feel so sorry for him. It is such a damn struggle to recover from this. It takes ages.

Looking for an alternative actor now. I am still trying to pull it off.

[Simon Höfer]

Good luck Simon and Sinan!

Thanks alot!

Get to it! Erase that probably word in there. Thats evil.

Erased :) Will be shooting tomorrow! Whoohooo :D

[Simon Höfer]

Oh yeah! Wrapped this thing yesterday at 10pm :)

That was a long day, but it was alot of fun! Had to compromise quite a few things, but such is life. Now its time for post production.

I still have to take a few pickup shots and later I have to make lots of audio recording.

My budget went up yesterday :D Most for food and drinks of course and gasoline.

Had to buy a Black Pen (5.42$), and a pack of cigarettes (6.20$). Food and drinks was probably about 60$. Gasoline probably another 40$. Driving around adds up fast at those gas prizes.

That makes 111.62$

And a total budget of:

135.10$

Complete crew:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/26393/1210506501.jpg


Hugo and Me (actors):
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/26393/1210506659.jpg

[Simon Höfer]

Today I did two pickup shots and also recorded some sound.

I also finished the first cut and did some color correction :) Needs alot of finetuning of course.

And then comes the big part, where we have to do the complete sound.

[Simon Höfer]

Sound recording is nearly finished. Now Sinan Kurtulus needs to make the score.

Until now I am quite pleased with the outcome of this project. Even though it has a lot of flaws. Thats what you get when you act, direct, operate the camera, move lights and do tons of other stuff. But it was alot of fun!! We'll see what the next movie brings :)

Looking forward to all the films :)

[ZFarms Productions]

awesome poster! can't wait to see the film

[Simon Höfer]

Thanks! The poster actually really represents the film. It shows after watching the movie :) Also looking forward to you entry. Glad that your actor showed up again!

[Tom Marshall]

Simon, congrats on having it almost complete. It looks like you guys had a lot of fun making it and that's what really counts. :beer:

[Simon Höfer]

Thanks alot for stopping by Tom and thanks for your kind words! We definately had alot of fun :)

I hoped that you could also finish your entry this time around. How about next fest? :D Anyway, hopefully your other plans work out! I am following your thread.

[Tom Marshall]

Mine pretty much fell apart... so my Timefest thread is now about my guitar playing... :) Expect to hear news in that thread regarding whatever band I choose to join...

[Simon Höfer]

Removed grabs... :D

[Tom Marshall]

You should have made the guy in white bleach his hair. :laugh:

[Simon Höfer]

Little Update:
Sound design is nearly complete. Only the soundtrack needs to be finished. And I still have to finetune the color correction.

Export settings are also figured out, so I should be save on this one :D

[Tom Marshall]

That's great news, man. Can't wait to see what you've done. :beer:

[Simon Höfer]

That's great news, man. Can't wait to see what you've done. :beer:

Thanks alot Tom! I am also pretty stoked about what people think about it :)

[Existentialist]

Your poster is probably the coolest I've seen so far.

[Simon Höfer]

Your poster is probably the coolest I've seen so far.

Somehow I missed your comment. Thanks alot man!

Update:
My entry is nearly finished. I only have to tweak the audio a little bit more. To be safe, I already uploaded my current version. It's really only minor tweaks that need to be done. 99.9% finished I would say :D

[Simon Höfer]

Finished final version and uploaded it already :)

[Tom Marshall]

That's awesome man! Congrats. Can't wait to watch it in a few days...

[Raptor365]

Hey Simon. Uploaded already? I see a few people are on the ball this time.
Don't know anything about it myself, ha.
Congrats man on getting er done. Wouldn't miss it for the world.

[Horncastle]

Hi Simon

See you got in there with time to spare. Well done. We are looking forward to seeing what you've done.

Jason and Susanne

[Postmaster]

Finished final version and uploaded it already :)


Congratulations!

Zusamen mit deinem und dem Film von Jason und Susanne sind wir jetzt also die "German Troika" hehehe.

Ich wünsche euch allen viel Glück.

Frank

[Simon Höfer]

Danke Frank! Euch auch allen viel Glück!

Three very different german movies. One is in english, one has no dialog and one is in german.

[wesley]

cool poster, viel glück with your entry

[Simon Höfer]

Thanks alot! Also good luck with yours :)

[Susanne G.]

Hello Simon,

ours is in german, I think "Unzeit" is in english - is yours the german film without dialog? A very interesting experiment! I am waiting to see your film.

Good luck

Susanne

[Simon Höfer]

Yep, it's mine. I hope it is quite interesting :) Anxious to know what people think about it...

Also looking forward to your film and all the others. This fest is great! So much fun :)

[Herman Witkam]

cool poster, viel glück with your entry

Isn't that vielen glück? :D

[Matt Sconce]

I have always loved your poster. I look forward to seeing the film.

[Simon Höfer]

Isn't that vielen glück? :D
No, it is "viel glück" :D

I have always loved your poster. I look forward to seeing the film.
Thanks alot! I hope my entry holds up to the expectations :D

Also looking forward to see Push :) See some RED in action!

[Tom Marshall]

No dialog?? That sounds cool!

[Simon Höfer]

Yep, no dialog :)

Finally it got approved :D Man, what a long ride!

[Susanne G.]

Hello Simon,

I saw your 1000th post video. Very sympatic. I like your eyeglasses - they make you pretty serious! Are this blue slippers made of felt? It's not to hot now - we are in Berlin and have summer here!!!!

Susanne

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Yep, no dialog :)

Finally it got approved :D Man, what a long ride!Very cool!

This should be really interesting. Good luck!

Mike

[Heather]

Some shorts are great with no dialogue. This sounds like it will be one of them!

[Mark Johnson]

Some shorts are great with no dialogue. This sounds like it will be one of them!

And some dialogue is great with no shorts. Ask Rogan.

[Raptor365]

Hi Simon. The only thing that matters is if you like your film.

The crits are cool and important. Man, as long as you enjoy what your doing and learning, it's all cool. Besides, 'one' of the best filmakers I have ever met here, is a Dutch, then 16, now 17 or 18 yr old kid. IMO.

I'm making one soon just to trash my name yet again, haha. So , just make good stories. That's ALL I care about. Well, good cam work, directing , writing, editing , compositing, sound, ect. But you will not get that in ours. :)

Nice to meet you on vid too. You have more guts than I have. :)

//Oh, the kid is not as good as Mac & Jack yet, but he's on his way.

[Tom Marshall]

I still hear Buscemi's voice... :cheesy:

[Simon Höfer]

Some shorts are great with no dialogue. This sounds like it will be one of them!

Thanks, I hope you like it :)

Hi Simon. The only thing that matters is if you like your film.

The crits are cool and important. Man, as long as you enjoy what your doing and learning, it's all cool. Besides, 'one' of the best filmakers I have ever met here, is a Dutch, then 16, now 17 or 18 yr old kid. IMO.

I'm making one soon just to trash my name yet again, haha. So , just make good stories. That's ALL I care about. Well, good cam work, directing , writing, editing , compositing, sound, ect. But you will not get that in ours. :)

Nice to meet you on vid too. You have more guts than I have. :)

//Oh, the kid is not as good as Mac & Jack yet, but he's on his way.

Haha, yeah I learned alot. Made many mistakes, but I still like my movie. I am looking forward to the critics and what people think about it. Thats what the fest is all about. Learning and having fun :)

Looking forward to your future entry :D

Man, it's sad that I don't know Buscemis voice. Damn german translations...

[Dustin R. Rogan]

And some dialogue is great with no shorts. Ask Rogan.
This is true! abit drafty though. Who really pays attention to dialogue when there's a naked man on screen, honestly...

:love4:

[Drew Ott]

Hey Simon,

Very cool short. I loved the opening and how it became part of the film.

I must say I was let down with it by the end. At about 2 minutes in, I was expecting it to be a really great short... but then not much happened.

It looked great though and I loved the stylistic black/white thing you had going.

Ich liebe Deutsch, so fuer deine naechste Film, du sollst in Deutsch sprechen.

^this is all so incorrect. I've taken 2 years of German in high school. Also, I don't know how to use umlauts, so I had to use the 'e' which looks worse.

[Mattykins]

Simon, you are my first film review of the late evening. Took a dinner break and relaxing break and right back at it. I have high expectations :)

Alright, the words you love to hear...rolling and reviewing.

Interesting graphic in the begining. I really love the contrast. The sound is working relly well together. The blank book is creept. Actually, in general the entire thing is creepy.

SOund design is great so far. Though you can see an electronic plug on the white wall. Once I noticed it, it sticks out. And I'm glad you weren't smoking. Smoking is bad for you. haha. I digress.

I am really curious to see where this is going. Did you go and paint your walls for this?

And loving the flip of the cig. My friends can do that with a pencil and it blows my mind every time. Thought the smoking thing was interesting. Great shot there. Okay 3:35...WTF?

Well, I guess that is a message for you. Haha. You did confuse me slightly with that ending. Not going to lie.

But over all, great short.

Nicely shot. It did seem to drag a little bit. Maybe the action could have been pushed a little closer together. Didn't find many things technically off. Aside from that damn wall socket. haha. Oh well. Minor. Exposure you nailed. Framing was good. Overall, nicely done.

[conrad_johnson]

The inner geek (ok, outer geek) wants to see that clock squarely in the middle of black and white, now it's a little cock-eyed. (not much, I'm a geek)

Dammned wall socket. Take it out in post!

Very tense and interesting considering nothing is happening. Good work!

The ending didn't sell me. Sorry. The build up was way better than the ending.

Good work on a very stylistic short.

Thanks,
-Joe

[Beat Takeshi]

Very creative and risky to do a one room short with hardly any movement but you did most of it well. I agree with Joe that the build up was great but the ending seemed not to match.
Did the guy get undressed into all black and take the other guys place?
Didn't notice the socket but I noticed the chairs didn't match in color design. Opening graphic rocked with how it tied into the first shot.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Simon, this was a very brave short. Well done.

I'll post more after a second viewing. Hopefully you enjoyed the Match.

Cheers,

Mike

[ZazaCast]

I liked this short....and I don't know why!

Loved it from the start and the way the opening graphic took us into the film (and out again in the end), very creative. The socket bugged me and could have been easily taken out. For a short short, it felt a little long, the pace was a bit slow. The audio was well done. Really liked the 'look' of it (MB?).

I'm still trying to figure-out what it meant...and the ending didn't make sense to me. I'll watch it a few more times though.

Great job!

[connorfilm]

This was very cool and abstract. One of my favorites. I really liked the way you transitioned from titles to the movie. Great work.

[Noel Evans]

Hi Simon, I think this was pretty good overall. I liked the contrast of the characters, and the black revealed by the white guy in the was good, as well as the opening as others said.


Bumps, I didnt mind the POV shot of him looking at his hands, but then when the cam moved from his lap to the other character and back I was a bit thrown. A handheld OTS would have worked much more smoothly. The killing, I just wasnt 100% on.

Good job!

[Moojangles]

this was fantastic! I loved it. One of my only critiques is i wish you would have covered the ceiling with black/white as well as the carpet. It wouldn't have taken that much more time but it really would have solidified the whole concept.

I liked the ending and i think i understand what you were trying to convey. ie:

SPOILERS:

SPOILERS:

The guy in the white becomes the guy in the black and has to deal with the pressure of boredom and the desire to smoke. Addiction etc.

[wesley]

well shot and looked really cool. It kept me guessing where it was going and like some of the others i was a bit confused about the ending. when the other guy opened his shirt and had a black shirt under it i thought he would have all black clothes underneath his and take over the other guy's spot in front of the white wall haha. good job anyway and succes!

[Simon Höfer]

Hey Simon,

Very cool short. I loved the opening and how it became part of the film.

I must say I was let down with it by the end. At about 2 minutes in, I was expecting it to be a really great short... but then not much happened.

It looked great though and I loved the stylistic black/white thing you had going.

Ich liebe Deutsch, so fuer deine naechste Film, du sollst in Deutsch sprechen.

^this is all so incorrect. I've taken 2 years of German in high school. Also, I don't know how to use umlauts, so I had to use the 'e' which looks worse.
Thanks for your review Drew! To each his own. Some like it some not. Thats how its going.

It was kind of my intention that not much is going on. It's a waiting situation and out of bordem something happens.

Simon, you are my first film review of the late evening. Took a dinner break and relaxing break and right back at it. I have high expectations :)

Alright, the words you love to hear...rolling and reviewing.

Interesting graphic in the begining. I really love the contrast. The sound is working relly well together. The blank book is creept. Actually, in general the entire thing is creepy.

SOund design is great so far. Though you can see an electronic plug on the white wall. Once I noticed it, it sticks out. And I'm glad you weren't smoking. Smoking is bad for you. haha. I digress.

I am really curious to see where this is going. Did you go and paint your walls for this?

And loving the flip of the cig. My friends can do that with a pencil and it blows my mind every time. Thought the smoking thing was interesting. Great shot there. Okay 3:35...WTF?

Well, I guess that is a message for you. Haha. You did confuse me slightly with that ending. Not going to lie.

But over all, great short.

Nicely shot. It did seem to drag a little bit. Maybe the action could have been pushed a little closer together. Didn't find many things technically off. Aside from that damn wall socket. haha. Oh well. Minor. Exposure you nailed. Framing was good. Overall, nicely done.

Thank you very much for your detailed review!

Haha, yeah I am proud about the blank book :)

I didn't paint the walls. my walls are white and I used black sheets to make the other side.

Confusion sometimes is good :D At least makes you think about it, I hope.

The inner geek (ok, outer geek) wants to see that clock squarely in the middle of black and white, now it's a little cock-eyed. (not much, I'm a geek)

Dammned wall socket. Take it out in post!

Very tense and interesting considering nothing is happening. Good work!

The ending didn't sell me. Sorry. The build up was way better than the ending.

Good work on a very stylistic short.

Thanks,
-Joe

Thank you very much conrad!
You are correct about the clock centered. One of the compromises I made. If it was straight, there would have been reflections and you could have seen the camera mirroring in the glass.

Yeah, the wall socket. I had that in my mind to change. I wanted to do that, but somehow I forgot. After you've seen the film a million times, you don't recognize it anymore. So it stayed in. Now its bugging me :D

Very tense and interesting considering nothing is happening. Good work!That line made my day conrad! Thats exactly what I tried to do :)

The ending, well up to everybodys mind. Some like it, some not. I am happy with it.

Very creative and risky to do a one room short with hardly any movement but you did most of it well. I agree with Joe that the build up was great but the ending seemed not to match.
Did the guy get undressed into all black and take the other guys place?
Didn't notice the socket but I noticed the chairs didn't match in color design. Opening graphic rocked with how it tied into the first shot.

Thanks Aram! The chair was insufficient preproduction.

About the ending. Ok, I think it is very much open for interpretation. There are a lot of possibilities. I will give a few thoughts about that at the end of this post.

Simon, this was a very brave short. Well done.

I'll post more after a second viewing. Hopefully you enjoyed the Match.

Cheers,

Mike
Looking forward to your in depth review :D
I liked this short....and I don't know why!

Loved it from the start and the way the opening graphic took us into the film (and out again in the end), very creative. The socket bugged me and could have been easily taken out. For a short short, it felt a little long, the pace was a bit slow. The audio was well done. Really liked the 'look' of it (MB?).

I'm still trying to figure-out what it meant...and the ending didn't make sense to me. I'll watch it a few more times though.

Great job!

Thank you zasa!

Socket: read above.

The slow pacing at the beginning. Well, I thought about that. It was also mentioned by some friends, but I still kept it. i wanted to have this feeling of a waiting situation, so I dragged it a little longer.

The look was no MB. Only using the curves.

The ending is up to you. i'll explain my thoughts at the end of this post a little.

This was very cool and abstract. One of my favorites. I really liked the way you transitioned from titles to the movie. Great work.

Thanks alot! I'm glad you liked it!

Hi Simon, I think this was pretty good overall. I liked the contrast of the characters, and the black revealed by the white guy in the was good, as well as the opening as others said.


Bumps, I didnt mind the POV shot of him looking at his hands, but then when the cam moved from his lap to the other character and back I was a bit thrown. A handheld OTS would have worked much more smoothly. The killing, I just wasnt 100% on.

Good job!
Thanks for your review Noel.

The POV was a bit awkward, but thats how I had envisioned it. I expected it even to be worse :D So I am happy with it.

The killing, as said before, to each his own :)
this was fantastic! I loved it. One of my only critiques is i wish you would have covered the ceiling with black/white as well as the carpet. It wouldn't have taken that much more time but it really would have solidified the whole concept.

I liked the ending and i think i understand what you were trying to convey. ie:

SPOILERS:

SPOILERS:

The guy in the white becomes the guy in the black and has to deal with the pressure of boredom and the desire to smoke. Addiction etc.

Yeah, carpet and ceiling. I really wanted to do that, but time and resources just didn't allow me to.

Ok, here are some of my thoughts about the film and its ending. You don't have to read it, if you want to keep your own interpretation.

SPOILERS
SPOILERS

In my mind this movies is more an abstract film. The black and white represents the good and the bad. At the beginning of the movie you see the good guy in white who sits in a bad black world. And the bad guy in black who sits in the same world, but compared to himself it is good, so he sits in a white world.

The cigarettes are just a symbol for something bad and while he smokes them he releases badness into the world.

The ending: I wanted to make you believe the white guy is good, because of his appearance, so that you are irritated that he murders the black guy. But then he opens his shirt and reveals his dark/bad core. Just because he looks good on the outside, it doesn't mean he is good on the inside.

These are my initial thoughts, but of course this film is open to a lot of interpretation.

Looking forward to more reviews! thanks alot guys :)

[Postmaster]

Verry nice idea to play with that White is Black and vice versa theme.

I love that kind of twist where you see that white is black and black can be white and leave the audience confused for a moment and with something to think about.

Cool Work Simon.

Frank

P.S. did someone mention that wall socket? :happy:

[Blaine]

Very interesting, Simon. It had something of a German Expressionism feel. The minute I saw you on screen, I was immediately reminded of the nihilists in The Big Lebowski, not necessarily by anything you did, but by your "look." Nice job.

Almost forgot, I loved the opening...

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I said I would be back... :)
I loved the black and white opposite thing that you have going on. Very cool.
The opening titles were excellent.

The buildup was good and I wasn't sure what to expect. I just knew something was coming. I also liked the finger tapping and the blank pages.

Very good work!
Technically it was superb.

Cheers,

Mike

[Simon Höfer]

Verry nice idea to play with that White is Black and vice versa theme.

I love that kind of twist where you see that white is black and black can be white and leave the audience confused for a moment and with something to think about.

Cool Work Simon.

Frank

P.S. did someone mention that wall socket? :happy:

What wall socket? :D

Very interesting, Simon. It had something of a German Expressionism feel. The minute I saw you on screen, I was immediately reminded of the nihilists in The Big Lebowski, not necessarily by anything you did, but by your "look." Nice job.

Almost forgot, I loved the opening...

Thanks for watching Blaine!

I said I would be back... :)
I loved the black and white opposite thing that you have going on. Very cool.
The opening titles were excellent.

The buildup was good and I wasn't sure what to expect. I just knew something was coming. I also liked the finger tapping and the blank pages.

Very good work!
Technically it was superb.

Cheers,

Mike

Thanks Mike!

[Mark Johnson]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but there's a wall socket in your frame.

[Simon Höfer]

Don't worry Simon, I didn't recognize the wall socket at all! This was an amazing film young man.

Thanks alot for your kind words Mark!

[Mark Johnson]

ha ha ha!!! I haven't been able to watch your film yet, Simon. I have it and several others in a que for later this morning. I do admit that I am now interested to see this wall socket everybody is talking about!

[Maximus]

Very arty! I had no idea what was going on until I read your explanation. It all makes sense now! Good job. Look forward to more original work from you.

[Simon Höfer]

ha ha ha!!! I haven't been able to watch your film yet, Simon. I have it and several others in a que for later this morning. I do admit that I am now interested to see this wall socket everybody is talking about!
Looking forward to your review Mark :D
Very arty! I had no idea what was going on until I read your explanation. It all makes sense now! Good job. Look forward to more original work from you.

Thanks alot!

[pauly_the_hitman]

Very interesting. I love the book is empty pages.

[Susanne G.]

This is a very artistic work. I like the nervous mimic art, the simbolic use of black and white, the clock goes faster when he was smoking as a methapher for his live which goes faster to the end. Very good edeting. The only thing I didn't understood: the white man - was he something like a devil? I had the idea when he opened his shirt and his underware was black, but I didn't understood it really!?
Thank you Simon for have done this film.

Susanne

[sean90291]

Nice! Really good work Simon. I'm more impressed by what you did with so little than many of the films that try to do a lot more. Only thing I wish is that you hadn't tried to fill a full 6 minutes, because this could have been edited down to 3 really solid minutes very easily. But you have style. I see a lot of potential in this little film, and I bet you could accomplish a lot. I hope to see more from you!

p.s. You could have used the wall socket to your advantage. If you couldn't get rid of it, cover it with a black plate and have a white cord run out of it or vice versa. Please make more films! I'll watch them. :-)

[Simon Höfer]

This is a very artistic work. I like the nervous mimic art, the simbolic use of black and white, the clock goes faster when he was smoking as a methapher for his live which goes faster to the end. Very good edeting. The only thing I didn't understood: the white man - was he something like a devil? I had the idea when he opened his shirt and his underware was black, but I didn't understood it really!?
Thank you Simon for have done this film.

Susanne

Thanks for your review Susanne! I didn't think of the white man as the devil. The black only shows that he is bad on the inside.

Nice! Really good work Simon. I'm more impressed by what you did with so little than many of the films that try to do a lot more. Only thing I wish is that you hadn't tried to fill a full 6 minutes, because this could have been edited down to 3 really solid minutes very easily. But you have style. I see a lot of potential in this little film, and I bet you could accomplish a lot. I hope to see more from you!

p.s. You could have used the wall socket to your advantage. If you couldn't get rid of it, cover it with a black plate and have a white cord run out of it or vice versa. Please make more films! I'll watch them. :-)

Thank you very much for your review Sean! It really made my day just before going to bed.

I actually didn't try to fill the 6 minutes. It was clear from the beginning that it will be shorter, so I didn't cut for any specific time. But I have to agree with you, it could have been shorter. I think it's something that everybody goes through while becoming a better filmmaker. You learn to edit your movies tight. My first cut was about 30 seconds longer. Then I tried to tighten it up until I was happy with it.

Now that some time passed since the editing, I think it could have been cut down even more, like you said. I feel like it is a little bit slow in some places. But that's part of the game, you learn it while you do it :D

And the wall socket, yeah I guess I will just cover it in post. Should be quite easy to do.

Thank you very much for your kind words and your suggestions! Really appreciated! Expect to see more films from me, but I think the next will not be an art film like this one. Well, we will see :)

[Mark Johnson]

Simon! I finally got to watch your film! What a completely different experience this was. I'm so pleased you are here and have created this little jewel.

Opening title design is best of fest in my opinion. The score was awesome! The whole concept was brilliant. I tip my hat to you.

I do wish that you had laid down sheets or whatever to keep the white/black division for the shots that showed the floor. That carpet took me out a little bit.

You know what I would have loved to see? I would love to have seen you play both parts. It would have been pretty simple to do given the way you shot this and in many cases you had a static camera so that it would have been UBER cool to split the frame and have you play against yourself. Just my thought, but I would love to have seen that because I think you have one of those interesting looks about you (not to lessen your fellow-actor, but you really do have a more interesting appearance in my opinion).

I agree that it was a tad bit too long, but not much. You needed a decent length of time to be able to show the fidgeting with the cigarettes and have a sense that something is building.

Beautiful work, my friend. I am much impressed and I especially want to see you act again. I love you in front of the camera dude. There's a presence that really works for me and I want to see more.

[jpsheets]

Hah! Great Stuff Simon! Loved the opening title sequence, the best so far. I was waiting for them to start all over again, like they're Hell or something. But I really enjoyed it.

What were your camera settings by the way? Very clean nice images.

best,

JP

[Simon Höfer]

Simon! I finally got to watch your film! What a completely different experience this was. I'm so pleased you are here and have created this little jewel.

Opening title design is best of fest in my opinion. The score was awesome! The whole concept was brilliant. I tip my hat to you.

I do wish that you had laid down sheets or whatever to keep the white/black division for the shots that showed the floor. That carpet took me out a little bit.

You know what I would have loved to see? I would love to have seen you play both parts. It would have been pretty simple to do given the way you shot this and in many cases you had a static camera so that it would have been UBER cool to split the frame and have you play against yourself. Just my thought, but I would love to have seen that because I think you have one of those interesting looks about you (not to lessen your fellow-actor, but you really do have a more interesting appearance in my opinion).

I agree that it was a tad bit too long, but not much. You needed a decent length of time to be able to show the fidgeting with the cigarettes and have a sense that something is building.

Beautiful work, my friend. I am much impressed and I especially want to see you act again. I love you in front of the camera dude. There's a presence that really works for me and I want to see more.

Thank you very much for your kind words Mark! I was waiting for your review :D

Yeah, there were a few compromises I made. The carpet was one of them. :( And don't forget that damn wall socket :grin:

Funny that you mention me playing both parts. During the process of writing "No Air" I thought about this idea myself. But I didn't follow it so long, because of the action/POV shots I wanted to include and those are hard to accomplish with one actor. Not impossible, but really hard to accomplish. I think that would have been too much for my first entry :D

I definitely do want to act more. Gonna write a role for myself in my next short I guess:D Need to get a dedicated cameraman then. Shooting, directing and acting is kinda tough.

Yeah, maybe some serious talking/emotion role in a horror/zombie/vampire flick! Sounds like a good idea to me :evil:

Thanks again Dude! As mentioned somewhere in the Fat Monster thread, you guys are a big inspiration to me! Waiting for the feature now :thumbsup:

[Noel Evans]

You know what I would have loved to see? I would love to have seen you play both parts.

That really would have been great.

Simon I watched it again - enjoyed it more second time around as well.

[Matt Sconce]

I thought some of the relationship betwen the two guys was funny and I liked the opening. The short confused me as a whole and I did not understand the end, but hey...It still was cool.

[Chris Messineo]

I haven't read the whole thread and I'm sure this has been said a million times before, but I LOVED your title sequence. It was so clever and fun and connected to the rest of the story. Brilliant.

[Zoidoid]

Nice little film you've made here! I actually found some of the interactions between the two characters to be quite funny. I would have really liked to see it with a more playful score for this reason. I'm curious about how that would change the film as a whole!

The awkward silence kinda reminded me of the uneasy interactions between characters in Jim Jarmusch's Coffee and Cigarettes for some reason (the black and white theme probably helped). I think you could probably have stuck with the final shot -- the guy removing his white shirt to reveal the black one beneath -- for just a moment longer so that the audience could take note of it.

But, y'know, po-tay-to po-tah-to. Congratulations on your entry.

[kurtmo]

Cool opening and closing. Unique film. I liked the black and white thing ya got going there.

Thanks for showing.

[Mike Insane]

Artsy, yet understandable. I'm not sure what the theme ( plot) was but I was interested all the way through. Good job getting something into the competition. :)

[Simon Höfer]

I thought some of the relationship betwen the two guys was funny and I liked the opening. The short confused me as a whole and I did not understand the end, but hey...It still was cool.

Aww, watch it again... active watching appreciated :D J/K if it ain't working for it ain't working. Thanks for your review!

I haven't read the whole thread and I'm sure this has been said a million times before, but I LOVED your title sequence. It was so clever and fun and connected to the rest of the story. Brilliant.

Thanks man! I feel really proud after these comments! I guess one of my brighter moments :D

Nice little film you've made here! I actually found some of the interactions between the two characters to be quite funny. I would have really liked to see it with a more playful score for this reason. I'm curious about how that would change the film as a whole!

The awkward silence kinda reminded me of the uneasy interactions between characters in Jim Jarmusch's Coffee and Cigarettes for some reason (the black and white theme probably helped). I think you could probably have stuck with the final shot -- the guy removing his white shirt to reveal the black one beneath -- for just a moment longer so that the audience could take note of it.

But, y'know, po-tay-to po-tah-to. Congratulations on your entry.
Thanks for your review and for your suggestions. It could definitely have been much funnier if I wanted too. I like this idea.

And the final shot. Yeah, I was not happy with it. During editing I realized that it was not so good. I actually wanted to reshoot this scene, because it took him so long to open his shirt and the black was only so subtle. For the reshoot I thought about him taking off the shirt at once, so you can see the complete black t-shirt all of a sudden. But we could't do it, because the actor had no time.

Cool opening and closing. Unique film. I liked the black and white thing ya got going there.

Thanks for showing.

Thanks alot!

Artsy, yet understandable. I'm not sure what the theme ( plot) was but I was interested all the way through. Good job getting something into the competition. :)

Thanks Mike! Main goal achieved :)

here is the explanation from a few pages back:
SPOILERS
SPOILERS

In my mind this movies is more an abstract film. The black and white represents the good and the bad. At the beginning of the movie you see the good guy in white who sits in a bad black world. And the bad guy in black who sits in the same world, but compared to himself it is good, so he sits in a white world.

The ending: I wanted to make you believe the white guy is good, because of his appearance, so that you are irritated that he murders the black guy. But then he opens his shirt and reveals his dark/bad core. Just because he looks good on the outside, it doesn't mean he is good on the inside.

These were my initial thoughts, but of course this film is open to a lot of interpretation.

When I explained my initial thoughts about this film, I just mentioned the black and white issue, but I didn't say anything about the time theme. Mainly, because nobody asked. :D

As said before, the black and white represents good and bad. But the complete setup represents our whole world and life and these two guys are just two representative human beings whose time is running up.

Obviously the black guy's time runs faster and he somehow knows it. The smoking is a metaphor for his wasteful life and it represents something bad. The white guy doesn't know or doesn't care about the time, until the end, where he realizes that his time might come to and end as well.

[Raptor365]

Hey Simon. I swear I thought I posted after my first, but can't see it now. Sorry man. Not sure what happened there.

Anyways, I thought the lead up was very good. As I think I read before, for nothing happening, it was actually quite interesting. So, that held me right till the end. I must admit I didn't get it at first, but having heard your reasoning, it all makes perfect sense now. Wow, way to go on your first entry.
Very good my friend.

[Horncastle]

Hey Simon,

I loved your film. The black and white, the idea, the classy credits which really fitted well. I thought the cinematography and sound quality were excellent too.

The theme seemed pretty clear to me, though I would add that beyond good and bad, hypocrisy seemed to be a central theme: the good guy doesn't want the other guy to smoke because it would damage his health, but then he kills him when he does. It seemed clear to me that you were saying that we see the good and the bad in black and white but then everything is not what it seems - there are a lot of grey areas in between or what seems good may actually be worse than what seems bad.

If I must make a criticism, there are two: first, as has been said, that light socket, but also the corner of the room. The back wall should have been wider. In such a formal composition that back white wall needs to be perfect. Second, I didn't really like the "good" guy shaking his head when "bad" guy drew on the unlit cigarette. I thought that could have been a little more subtle.

Great work though, congratulations!!

Jason

[Simon Höfer]

Hey Simon. I swear I thought I posted after my first, but can't see it now. Sorry man. Not sure what happened there.

Anyways, I thought the lead up was very good. As I think I read before, for nothing happening, it was actually quite interesting. So, that held me right till the end. I must admit I didn't get it at first, but having heard your reasoning, it all makes perfect sense now. Wow, way to go on your first entry.
Very good my friend.

Ok, apology accepted. In exchange for some kick ass VFX for my next entry :D ... j/k

Thanks alot man!
Hey Simon,

I loved your film. The black and white, the idea, the classy credits which really fitted well. I thought the cinematography and sound quality were excellent too.

The theme seemed pretty clear to me, though I would add that beyond good and bad, hypocrisy seemed to be a central theme: the good guy doesn't want the other guy to smoke because it would damage his health, but then he kills him when he does. It seemed clear to me that you were saying that we see the good and the bad in black and white but then everything is not what it seems - there are a lot of grey areas in between or what seems good may actually be worse than what seems bad.

If I must make a criticism, there are two: first, as has been said, that light socket, but also the corner of the room. The back wall should have been wider. In such a formal composition that back white wall needs to be perfect. Second, I didn't really like the "good" guy shaking his head when "bad" guy drew on the unlit cigarette. I thought that could have been a little more subtle.

Great work though, congratulations!!

Jason

Thanks Jason! Your comments and thoughts are really appreciated!

[Duff]

I'll start by saying that I'm not a fan of 'artsy' cinema, but I really liked this short.

The title sequence was absolutely awesome. When it faded into the clock but maintained the black/white dichotomy, I knew I was watching something by someone who clearly knew what they were doing. The first shot of the two guys caused a big smile to cross my face. That smile remained for the first two minutes of the film. The pacing, cinematography, sound design -- everything was perfect.

Then after he put the cigarettes back into his pocket, things started to drag in my opinion. The characters' actions started to get repetitive; we weren't being shown anything novel anymore. The music started to get on my nerves. The smile slowly faded from my face.

When he lights up the cigarette, I love the sound design. Very awesomely done. Great shot. I love the ending, too. So really what it comes down to is I just think most of the 2:00-3:00 section should have been cut out. Maybe if instead of putting the cigarettes back into his pocket when the other guy gets upset, he just goes straight to twirling it, and pretends as though that's what he was planning on doing all along? Just my opinion.

I really really love the concept and everything else about this one -- I just wish it had gotten to the punchline sooner. All in all, great job with this.

[Slimothy]

I'm usually not a huge fan of art films, but this one for some reason held my interest. I'm not sure what it was, but I was thoroughly intrigued even after I figured it out. As others said, loved the title sequence. You need to get a reel together for those yo.

Are you a one man band over there Simon?

[Simon Höfer]

The title sequence was absolutely awesome. When it faded into the clock but maintained the black/white dichotomy, I knew I was watching something by someone who clearly knew what they were doing. The first shot of the two guys caused a big smile to cross my face. That smile remained for the first two minutes of the film. The pacing, cinematography, sound design -- everything was perfect.

This comment made me smile for some time :)

When he lights up the cigarette, I love the sound design. Very awesomely done. Great shot. I love the ending, too. So really what it comes down to is I just think most of the 2:00-3:00 section should have been cut out. Maybe if instead of putting the cigarettes back into his pocket when the other guy gets upset, he just goes straight to twirling it, and pretends as though that's what he was planning on doing all along? Just my opinion.

I really dig this idea. I think it's actually great! I watched these parts again and it can even be done so easily. The only thing that would go missing would be the closeups of the clock, but that's not a big loss.

You know, it's so hard to see things like this on yourself. I had this short and its scenes in my had for quite some time now. And then you watch it over and over again. I trimmed it, but you don't come up with the idea of actually cutting something out.

Thanks alot for your suggestions. I'm gonna give this one a try!

I'm usually not a huge fan of art films, but this one for some reason held my interest. I'm not sure what it was, but I was thoroughly intrigued even after I figured it out. As others said, loved the title sequence. You need to get a reel together for those yo.

Are you a one man band over there Simon?

Thanks alot! What do you mean by reel. A reel for title sequences?

My girlfriend and two other friends helped me out on set during the shoot. My partner Sinan Kurtulus made the score and I recorded all the sound together with him. He produces electronic music, so he is quite good with sound programs.

So I came up with the story. I built the set, directed, was responsible for the lighting, for the camera setup, made the props. I edited (some parts together with Sinan), made the Intro and outro in After Effects and some other minor FX work in AE.

At 46 seconds into the film e.g., you can see the black shoe during the closeup of the hand. It was brown originally, because I was wearing the wrong shoes :D So I had to change it in AE.

So it is close to a one man band. Maybe 1 1/2.

Thanks for your review Tim :)

[Danielleus]

Hey Simon,

Just caught the flick. Gotta say, really enjoyed it. Not much of a story there, but a hell of a good abstact film.

While being a simple film, it doesn't seem to be a simple concept. AND you handled the simplicity with enough complexity to really really make it shine. The sound, acting, look, art direction, modd (and by mood I mean the tension) for sure were all top notch. And man did it look like you were enjoying that cigarette drag. Man.

So, as everyone has mentioned, the wall socket. But, as you know, the devil is in the details, especially with a piece as simple as this. Everything has to look intentional and for I'd say 95% of it, it looks that way. And so the wall socket carries so much more weight (I wasn't a fan of being able to see the edge of the white wall either).

Maybe something a bit more narrative next time? OH, who cares? You did this really well and I enjoyed it. Can't wait to see what you come up with next.

[Bryce A]

Simon,

Well, I didn't notice the wall socket. All in all the film wasn't for me. Just my personal taste. But you did a good job. LOVED the titles. The titles make me smile, man. Probably my fav credits in the fest so far. I did like the ending. When he opens his shirt.... Nice.

Good Job!

[totitefilms]

I really don't understand the story. The whole story looks like an anti smoking ad with a murder scene :-) Maybe you could have added some details to tell the viewers why the two guys were seating there. It's a little bit boring to watch the whole movie with just one scene. Also, the footages look washed out. Other than the above problems, your movie is nice. Congrats!

[jasonthewho]

Loved the opening and closing credits! Awesome. The production design of the film was cool, with the black and white, and that cool clock.

I didn't really get it, but it didn't bore me. I found the actions of the characters interesting.

Loved the guy reading a blank white book.

I would have liked to have been able to understand this more, but it was fun. Keep up the good work!

[Herman Witkam]

I really liked it!

I liked the score - It complimented the sound design very well. The foley felt a bit over the top though, which at times works to feel the irritation of the guy in white. It could be somewhat softer in the mix though.

[Geoff_R]

Nicely done. I liked watching something that was experimental/abstract.. Good job with the editing/pacing, it managed to keep my attention throughout the story which is hard considering how little is actually going on. Score and sound design were well executed as well and helped maintain my focus.

[chstick]

A nice take on Sartre's "No Exit". (No Air, No Exit).

I thought your piece was very well done. It did drag a little (but only a little)....could've been tightened some....but overall it was very good.

My friend and I have been trying to write our version of "No Exit".....but we keep struggling with the idea of 'how' not to bore the audience with a one room shot (especially here in the USA....with all the short attention spans and ADD). I really do love what you have done here. Great job!

[Duff]

My friend and I have been trying to write our version of "No Exit".....but we keep struggling with the idea of 'how' not to bore the audience with a one room shot (especially here in the USA....with all the short attention spans and ADD). I really do love what you have done here. Great job!

Not to thread hijack, but here's an example of a (more or less) one room short that is definitely anything but uninteresting, haha. And no, it's not a rickroll. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ge2FHDf_L78

[justin ewart]

Loved the design, good sound, liked your actors.

Really bothered me that in the wide shot the actors were much further from the mid line then the mid shots. Loved the look and it was a great beginning of an idea but the end didn't really make sense to me... I think you had a great setup for something but it didn't go much of anywhere which is weird to say considering it ended with a murder... perhaps it was supposed to just be abstract and not have a point, or we see that the white guy is black underneath so like good and evil are an illusion? I dunno... and the fact that I don't know is what makes the piece feel weak to me...

It was very original though and a nice change of pace! I'd love to see it reworked a little because then you'd really have something.

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

Very interesting, not sure what to think. Its good at what it is, but I'm not sure what that would be. Good job though!

[Mark Johnson]

Hey Simon. I just watched your film again. Reminded me of those guys from the old Star Trek series. Left half of face white/right half black. Love the way you play with the metaphor. Absolutely love the smoking scene.

Oh, and I noticed a wall socket in one scene.

[Edgen]

This was an interesting short. I’m not sure I got it completely, but I’d have to say I was watching the entire time trying to figure it out. So basically smoking is bad, and if you do, you are punished, and then those who punish are actually 'bad' too?

Congrats on entering the fest.

[Simon Höfer]

Hey Simon. I just watched your film again. Reminded me of those guys from the old Star Trek series. Left half of face white/right half black. Love the way you play with the metaphor. Absolutely love the smoking scene.

Oh, and I noticed a wall socket in one scene.
Which wall socket? I didn't see no wall socket :D

This was an interesting short. I’m not sure I got it completely, but I’d have to say I was watching the entire time trying to figure it out. So basically smoking is bad, and if you do, you are punished, and then those who punish are actually 'bad' too?

Congrats on entering the fest.

The smoking is only a metaphor. Thanks for your review! :)

[ConspiracyPenguin]

Simon, glad to see anotherm director who gets in front of the camera! Definitly kept me interested just out of sheer intrigue, wondering what was going to happen. I love the way you tied the beginning and ending together with those graphics and the wall color. I, like Justin, am not sure I totally understood. I suppose what I got is that you can choose the "good" side or the "bad" side, but there is always a little bit of evil in everyone. (?) If you want to talk good and evil, I know the theory that blows all others out of the water and is irrefutable. At any rate, well done. I liked the POV stuff. Good job and good luck!

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PS: I feel bad for this guy (who reminds me of myself :cry:) He may be smiling, but deep down inside he is lonely.

http://www.isarapix.org/pix35/1214725459.jpg

[Simon Höfer]

Thanks alot Nick! Your thoughts are going in the right directions. I wanted people to think about it.

Well, actually the guy was smiling, because he knew he would go home to his girlfriend later :D Sorry to tell you this...

[iSTy]

i like the Sinamon Productions intro. :)
I'm trying to give up smoking atm, and watching this made me hesitate a little longer, until, of course, i had to start thinking about what to write http://www.allemoticons.com/Crazy/Crazy_322.gif

[Simon Höfer]

Thanks alot :)

I am a non-smoker. To play the role of the black guy was disgusting :zombie_smiley: Man, I nearly smoked whole package... :D

[ConspiracyPenguin]

Thanks alot Nick! Your thoughts are going in the right directions. I wanted people to think about it.

Well, actually the guy was smiling, because he knew he would go home to his girlfriend later :D Sorry to tell you this...

:cry: So I am alone!

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You are a non-smoker? Do you find yourself wanting them now that you have tried them or not?

[Simon Höfer]

:cry: So I am alone!

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You are a non-smoker? Do you find yourself wanting them now that you have tried them or not?

Haha, yeah I'm a non-smoker. Did you not get the hidden message, that smoking is bad? :D

I don't want them now. I tried them before so no big deal. They still taste as bad as always :D In the killing scene I was always coughing afterwards because I chocked over the smoke when he pushed me over with the chair.

I actually tested smoking the day before shooting. The first puffs really make you dizzy if you are a non smoker.

By the way, today started the anti smoking law here in my part of germany, so you are not allowed to smoke in bars,clubs and restaurants anymore.:)

[Simon Höfer]

Whooohoo!

We won one of the randomly awarded prizes:

Prize: DVenlightment DVD (http://dvcreators.net/dv-enlightenment)

:D

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

By the way, today started the anti smoking law here in my part of germany, so you are not allowed to smoke in bars,clubs and restaurants anymore.:)We've had that here for a few years now. Only designated areas outside are permitted by some restaurants.

There was a huge kerfuffle over it at first. Not even a thought anymore.
:thumbup:

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Whooohoo!

We won one of the randomly awarded prizes:

Prize: DVenlightment DVD (http://dvcreators.net/dv-enlightenment)

:DCongratulations!:beer:

[MOVIE MASTER]

ps: I feel bad for this guy (who reminds me of myself :cry:) he may be smiling, but deep down inside he is lonely.

http://www.isarapix.org/pix35/1214725459.jpg


loneLY dude!

[Simon Höfer]

loneLY dude!
Ya, but only at that day. he got a girlfriend ;)