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Nathan Beaman
02-16-2008, 09:37 AM
Out of curiousity - I'm wondering how many EX-1 purchasers are planning on using primarily the HD SDI output for recording to avoid the long GOP, rollingshutter and artifacting in movement.

I've seen a lot of impressive images form the EX - but I've also seen a lot of footage with the previously mentioned issues.

A small handful of people I've discussed this with stand strongly by the EX-1 and always tout the HD SDI recording as a way around the long GOP - thus making it better than other cams in the same price range.

So how about it---- how many people are actually tethering this $6500 camera to a $25k - $60k deck? or just waiting for the HD SDI compact flash portable recorders?

Barry_Green
02-16-2008, 09:52 AM
Out of curiousity - I'm wondering how many EX-1 purchasers are planning on using primarily the HD SDI output for recording to avoid the long GOP, rollingshutter and artifacting in movement.
The only portable HD-SDI recorder I know of is the forthcoming Convergent XDR, but at $5,000 it costs almost as much as the camera. And it won't do a thing to avoid rolling shutter artifacts; those are from the sensor and will appear in all recordings.

It could overcome long-GOP issues but only if you use the 160-megabit recording mode, which means your footage would take up 5x as much room. Side benefit would be that it's 4:2:2 instead of 4:2:0 though.

I feel pretty confident in saying the 100mbps 4:2:2 mode is going to be plenty adequate for any recording situation, long-GOP or not.



A small handful of people I've discussed this with stand strongly by the EX-1 and always tout the HD SDI recording as a way around the long GOP - thus making it better than other cams in the same price range.
HD-SDI (or HDMI) are great options to have, but to take advantage of them it's going to cost bucks.

moviemaker999
02-16-2008, 03:26 PM
The upcoming cineform recorder is supposedly 2,000 or less and will have hdmi recording. When its available you could use a blackmagic hdlink to convert it to hdmi and have a recording solution for under about $2500. However, that would only be possible when its available and I am not sure of the disadvantages when converting hd-sdi to hdmi.

http://www.cineform.com/products/CineFormRecorder.htm

http://blackmagic-design.com/products/hdlink/techspecs/

Mediacre
02-17-2008, 12:38 PM
T and I am not sure of the disadvantages when converting hd-sdi to hdmi.


I wouldn't think there's any, as it's staying digital.

Nicky
02-17-2008, 12:47 PM
The upcoming cineform recorder is supposedly 2,000 or less and will have hdmi recording. When its available you could use a blackmagic hdlink to convert it to hdmi and have a recording solution for under about $2500. However, that would only be possible when its available and I am not sure of the disadvantages when converting hd-sdi to hdmi.

http://www.cineform.com/products/CineFormRecorder.htm

http://blackmagic-design.com/products/hdlink/techspecs/

I really hope this works, cos I think the convergent design flash XDR system is way too expensive.

moviemaker999
02-17-2008, 01:04 PM
I really hope this works, cos I think the convergent design flash XDR system is way too expensive.

and the xdr records 8 bit, not 10 bit, which is one of the main features of the hd-sdi recording.