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Rodney V. Smith
02-05-2008, 10:13 PM
ANNIVERSARY, my entry into Lovefest 2008, will be filming tomorrow with actor Jared Davis. We're filming on my DIY 35mm adapter and DVX100A.

Composer to be announced.

Wish us luck, and as a place holder, here's the poster

http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/anniversary-poster.gif

Jason Ramsey
02-06-2008, 01:23 PM
Filming with a DIY adapter, huh.... very interesting.

Welcome to the fest, man.

Later,
Jason

Rodney V. Smith
02-06-2008, 02:40 PM
it's actually one i've been using all year with great success. I've recently upgraded it and it's even better than before. Pics and screenshots to come soon. Editing this evening. We're halfway through the shoot, now getting ready for the climax.

Robbie Comeau
02-06-2008, 02:47 PM
Nice!

This one shall be good...

Rodney V. Smith
02-06-2008, 05:49 PM
okay, we just wrapped and now the long process of capturing begins. it's looking pretty damn good so far. have ADR, Foley and pickup shots scheduled for tomorrow. Shoudl also be meeting with the composer.

Rodney V. Smith
02-06-2008, 09:51 PM
Screen shots: Canon FD lenses, 50mm 1.8, 35mm 2.8, 135mm 2.8
DIY Adapter using: Canon EE-S focusing screen. Cinevate Achromat.

http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/door1.bmp


http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/door2.bmp

http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/door3.bmp

http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/river1.bmp

http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/river2.bmp

http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/river3.bmp

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-06-2008, 09:56 PM
Nice grabs!

But you have some spots on your footage. Always in the same spot.
Is that because of the DIY adapter or did you just forget to clean the lens?

Not bashing... just wondering.

This one is especially harsh and rears it's ugly head in almost every grab.
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1202360405.jpg

Rodney V. Smith
02-06-2008, 10:00 PM
That spot was actually from the focusing screen. When I was installing it this morning and getting it nice and dust free... well i kinda blew into the screen instead of using compressed air... now there's this abberation on the screen and of course no local stores sell the screens. Stocking up on extra screens is now priority #1 for me.

Anyway I powered through it and shot anyway... sigh

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-06-2008, 10:03 PM
Not a big deal. I've sat through movies with tons of crap on the screen. If the story is good all will be forgotten quite quickly.

Nice grabs either way!

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-06-2008, 10:11 PM
PS- The poster rocks as well!

Rodney V. Smith
02-06-2008, 10:47 PM
thanks and thanks. i just wish I'd gotten the extra screens. The actor is pretty damn good too. He's coming in tomorrow for ADR so I'm here sloggign away on the edit so we can know which ad-libbed dialog he's using. you know actors.

Rodney V. Smith
02-07-2008, 08:44 AM
Rough cut is done.... now I gotta trim 1 minute off the whole thing... without credits its currently at 6:37... cutting mainly for pacing and story... now I gotta cut for style. More screenshots to come soon...

Edit: cut down to exactly 6:00 with credits... no room for logos at the beginning though, which kind of sucks. wish they made allowances for logos....

Rodney V. Smith
02-07-2008, 11:13 AM
My Cast:

http://www.jaredbdavis.com/photogallery/Jared%20Unifieds.jpg
Jared Davis

Screen Experience
Anniversary Tim (principal) Flyin' Monkey Films
Call Waiting Brian (supporting) Flyin' Monkey Films
Living in the Shadow Phil Flyin' Monkey Films

Stage Experience Smoke on the Mountain Dennis Sanders Cumming Playhouse
Deepo's Undersea 4D Billi Fishman Georgia Aquarium
Comedy Cobb Improv Ensemble Comedy Cobb
KidStuf Bart, the Bard Buckhead Church
Hello, Dolly Ambrose Kemper Black Bear Dinner
Dark of the Moon * John (Witch Boy) Shorter CollegeWest Side Story ** Chino Shorter College
The Shape of Things Adam Shorter College
Chicago Amos Hart Shorter College
Mystery of Edwin Drood Deputy Shorter College
Jekyll & Hyde - The Company Shorter College
Musical **
Most Happy Fella Company Shorter College
Merrily We Roll Along Company Shorter College
Bye Bye Birdie Hugo Peabody Galaxy Production
Freddie-Friendly Feline Prince Freddie Shorter College
Adventureland Christmas Tiny Tim Shorter College


Training BFA in Theatre - Shorter College, April 2005
Improv - 4 yrs
Acting - 4 yrs (Anna Filippo)
Private Acting Studies - 1 yr
Shakespeare - 1 yr
Movement - 3 yrs
Laban - 3 yrs
Voice - 1 yr (Linklater)
Dance - 1 yr (Jazz, Tap, Ballet)
Master Classes - Dave Clemmons, Freddie Ashley
Special Skills
Slapstick falls and other staged mishaps; puppeteer; great with kids; student directing; playwright; martial arts; computer skills; licensed driver (manual shift & automatic transmission); photography; southern dialect; burp on cue.
Awards & Honors
* Irene Ryan Nominee: Lead Actor, Dark of the Moon, 2005

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-07-2008, 11:17 AM
Edit: cut down to exactly 6:00 with credits... no room for logos at the beginning though, which kind of sucks. wish they made allowances for logos....
Do you mean opening title? Or a company logo? Make sure that you include a title. I want to see this one.


All films must be no longer than 6 (six) minutes total. The following format must be followed. Film Title (any format), body of film, maximum of 15 seconds of credits (which must clearly acknowledge dvxuser.com).

Cheers,

Rodney V. Smith
02-07-2008, 11:46 AM
i meant the company logo. title is definitely in

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-07-2008, 12:44 PM
Cool!

Rodney V. Smith
02-09-2008, 08:12 AM
I love a good composer. They add so much to a film.
Still working on the Foley and the sound design. The composer is doing a new arrangement, but what we have so far just adds the right amount of tension to the movie.

Pick-ups are being done today.

more screenshots:
http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/supermarket.bmp

Driveway:
http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/driveway.bmp

driving:
http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/driving.bmp

Kitchen:
http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/kitchen1.bmp
http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/kitchen2.bmp
http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/kitchen3.bmp
http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/kitchen4.bmp

Rodney V. Smith
02-09-2008, 06:50 PM
Behind the scenes on "Anniversary"


http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/BTS2.jpg

http://flyinmonkey.com/anniversary/BTS3.jpg

Rodney V. Smith
02-10-2008, 04:04 AM
poster updated:

Composer: Michael Dobbins, Euphonic Sound Lab, LLC
excellent guy, fast and talented. I got really lucky.

mentatDUKE
02-10-2008, 08:09 AM
Looks interesting. Good luck.

Rodney V. Smith
02-10-2008, 08:05 PM
all done and uploaded. phew! made it in time. Now time to prep for the next short in 2 weeks time..

Mark Harris
02-10-2008, 08:28 PM
Jeeze dude, I'm going to sleep for two weeks!

Kholi
02-13-2008, 08:11 PM
ANNIVERSARY -- SPOILER ALERT!!

Aye aye! Someone from Atlanta! The fact that you're puttin' together stuff in GA (my hometown) just says that you have enough drive to do it where you're at... instead'a like me? Havin' to move to LA and stuff. Can't wait to come back home.

I'll REALLY start off the review by sayin' that there's a decent eye behind the camera. Like all of us, with more practice your overall image in the future's going to be great. I think that the overall story has a proper, fitting tone but may suffer from execution.

There really are some great visual moments here. Specifically the vehicle scene and the telephone by the dock scene. There's a decent amount of care taken in framing and shot selection throughout of course, but these two stood out to me. Could be the natural lighting? I'm not sure. I can't tell, however, if the adapter's shortcomings are a distraction to the entire package when image is concerned. It's not your fault, the grain and soft edges really distract me. Not as a DVXuser, but as an audience member. It's an unfortunate thing but there are areas, as stated, where the framing and tracking beat out those buzzing artifacts.

And on buzzing, I think that I didn't MIND the choice in scoring/sound? I'm not sure if a lot of hits/strikes or music cues made sense. For example: The rise in music during the descent at the staircase. That was out of place, to me, but perhaps not to others. Also, and we all know sound is such a huge pain in the rear when on a budget, some of the dialog audio sampling sounded off and further distracted me from the viewing experience. Do you think that the sound scheme could stand a remastering? Do you think that the overall score may be a bit too "dark" in conjunction with the story and tone?

On about the story. It's hard to do. Not only in six minutes, but in ninety as well. I'm sure others are gonna say this but... I saw it coming from the second scene in the hallway. As soon as he started beating on the door it was called. What I'm getting at is that the story itself feels (to me) a bit hashed. This could be a number of things, though and it's hard to lock down why it doesn't work for me. It could be that it's really taking itself too seriously? It could be the on the nose dialogue, the dead giveaways (neighbor's appearance, phone call, loneliness throughout). It may sound bad to say, but, I feel like it takes itself so seriously that it actually becomes a bit comical by the end. In fact, I was expecting him to turn around to his wife actually sitting at the table. The punchline being: Everyone else is really crazy. It's not to say that it didn't happen. It's so serious about itself, though, and I think that the execution in that fashion is what's hurting it.

Along with that, it's much too long for the payoff. I think that you had the end of your short when the neighbor came over. If the beginning didn't give it away, that surely did. The rest of it drags on toward an obvious ending, although the montage visuals weren't bad. It's hard to know what's too long or even too short, and others may not agree but I feel that it's a bit too small for it's clothes if that makes any sense.

I can't really say too much about the acting. I mean, on a low/no budget basis supremely great acting is hard to find! Even in LA. The actors seemed to have done what they could with the dialogue. I always think that it must be odd for actors delivering lines to chairs and such. =P

All in all I think the effort is definitely apparent. Not a lot of us would go out to shoot in front of a grocery store, either! I know I'd be afraid to. Keep at it! I'll have to meet up with ya when I visit home again.

Thanks for exhibiting. Grain of salt, here.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-13-2008, 10:56 PM
Hey.... not bad. I know this was a late entry.

The voice work seemed off in various spots. ADR?
The camera work was well crafted thoughout, very good work.
I have to say that the outcome was quite obvious about halfway through. The scene with the neighbour really told me what was coming.

The acting wasn't bad either.

Nice entry.

Cheers!

RyanT
02-14-2008, 12:39 AM
Not bad man, as said before the acting was pretty decent. Even though I sort of knew the what was going to happen at the end of it all, I felt like you did a good job creating tension at the end with your use of jump cuts and the score.

As much as the whole focus, outta focus thing may have worked for you at times, it really drew me out of the story the rest of the time. Chances are this is because I do a lot of AC stuff, but then again, I dunno. My best advice for you is to find someone to help you operate the camera. It's a two person job once you start rockin' the adapter.

Even with that though, you managed to get some great shots. It's funny almost. While watching your film, seeing the guy outside by the creek, I was whisked away back to me shooting my film. Very similar frames and situations (sorta kinda). Great minds think alike I guess!

I guess these are all sort of little details compared to this point. The fact that I knew what was going to happen sort of made watching the rest of the film not as much fun as it could have been. Like Michael was saying, the scene with the neighbor was just a bit too telling of what was going to happen. You could have even showed Sarah a few times and get away with it being all "in his head".

Did you do ADR for some of this? I noticed the sync was a little soft at times.

Anyways, good job man. You're doing pretty good on the shooting end, just gotta work on the story aspect and you're golden. Haha, yeah...easier said than done, I know.

Yeah, wooooo. Lovefest.

Gohanto
02-14-2008, 12:41 AM
Apparently I'm duller than the average dvxuser, I didn't see it coming till he brought the plates out. Nicely done, one thing I would've recommended was getting tighter shots during his yelling over the phone at the end. Then you could've released the tension built-up by cutting back to the wide as he goes back into denial. Overall though great job, nice camera work, and you got a good performance from your actor despite the natural difficulty in it.

Arrik
02-14-2008, 12:45 AM
Not sure if you intended it to be a surprise ending, but the neighbor gave it away. That said, I liked how the opening shot set the story in motion. Allowed us to start in the thick of it.

My favorite shots were in the dinner prep sequence. Good job.

Ted Arabian
02-14-2008, 06:01 AM
Hey Rodney, Just watched! Nice job!!!

You have a real nice feel behind the camera. I loved the shots. Framing and camera movement were always on the mark.

The story was an interesting one with a twist I didn't see coming (until he get home with the groceries). I thought that the "conversation" with the guy outside the house (btw, one of my favorite shots!) gave too much away. I knew immediately from that point forward the ending of the film. And maybe that is what you wanted and that is okay. I would like to have been baited just a bit longer to really feel the full effect of your ending.

Performances were pretty good. I liked the guy until the ending. I wanted to see him go farther with his breakdown performance. I mean, that phone would have been smashed to pieces after that last phone call. But I know that we can't afford to buy new phones for every take, LOL. Just could see him going farther with this, though.

The music was a bit too much for me. At first, I was confused by it at the lake. Afterwards and in hindsight, it made sense. But I still feel that a less of a "horror" soundtrack could go a long way in telling this story.

I especially loved the cooking sequence. Great footage and editing there! And the meal looked damn yummy, too!

Great job on your film!

I hope to see more of your work in the future.

Congrats,
Ted

smashedburrito
02-14-2008, 08:21 AM
I really enjoyed this film until I started to figure out the twist, from that point on it seemed to move too slow.


I thought your actor did a nice job of keeping character. That is not an easy role to act.


Also I really enjoyed the moment you had when he said "You can hate me just please don't ignore me." That was a really nice moment there.

My advice is to start really getting into the camera part of this forum and learn as much as you can about composition and things like that. You are on the right track, but if yous tart picking up things here and there then you will really step ahead.

Good job man.

kurtmo
02-14-2008, 11:30 AM
Cool camerawork. Liked the framing. Thought the story unfolded well. Liked the slow reveal as the film progressed. At one point I felt an “oh, know”. Great when you can transmit that feeling.
One nit, something behind the logic of who’s actually calling our man makes me wonder if there is a logic hole here.
Nicely done!

Rodney V. Smith
02-14-2008, 11:37 AM
Thanks Kurtmo and everyone else for the reviews and critique. All very valuable and I'm taking notes here.



One nit, something behind the logic of who’s actually calling our man makes me wonder if there is a logic hole here.
Nicely done!
The phone actually only rang once in the entire movie. That was deliberate, and while the audience might assume it was on vibrate... well it was only in his head.

Keep the comments coming. I'm still watching the movies here between frantic bouts of work. So many to watch....

Robbie Comeau
02-14-2008, 03:59 PM
Just checked out your film.

At first, I thought what the hell? The score doesn't match this movie, and all we can see is the main character. Why can't we see his friend? OR he girlfriend? Then it pieced together.

The score DID turn out good (although I felt it was, TO scary)

The story was neat, and I didn't know what was going on until JUST before the phone call.

Really, a cool story here man. The shots were great, as well as the CC.

Hope to see more form ya!

Robbie

jpsheets
02-14-2008, 07:48 PM
Sorry my friend, your out of focus shots which was the case for the majority of the movie took me right out of it. Dialogue was bad, and the story line was predictable. Sorry, seen this way too many times. Nothing original here. Sorry to sound so harsh, score was good.

Chris Messineo
02-14-2008, 08:04 PM
Unfortunately, I saw the ending coming from a long way away. I think the music didn't help, in that it tipped your hand that something was up.

Some of the shots were lovely, but as others have mentioned there was a little too much that was out of focus. Also, I found the spots on the lens very distracting.

Blaine
02-14-2008, 09:41 PM
SPOILERS:

















I guessed in the fourth scene that she was dead. That kind of killed it for me.

Brian Parker
02-15-2008, 11:44 PM
There were some good elements to the execution. Some good shots, some good acting, some good montages (the kitchen scene). Maybe we could have had the big reveal midway or a more deceptive buildup and used the rest of the film for a deeper resolution. I could see where you were going with this and I think it's both a good and bad thing but overall I think it was a good job.

KenV
02-16-2008, 05:11 AM
Soundtrack/Score was alittle to much/obvious for me. But "what a twist!"

Matt Harris
02-16-2008, 02:57 PM
Hi Rodney, theres some good stuff here. Im glad you went psychological creepy on this!

Theres a great movie called SESSION 9 and it uses the same twist that you did,
so i did see it coming. However THAT movie had other elements to distract the viewer from figuring it out. Because you did a short and theres only 1 character, this is tough to pull off. but i have a solution on how to make this work better:

when the dude is on the phone, do a VO from the dead girlfriend. so we actually hear her. that way we think she's alive throughout the movie, and then when she turns out to be dead it'd be more effective.

the guy is psychologically mind-dekcuf so it would make sense he would hear her voice. what do you think? easy fix i say.

Bryce A
02-20-2008, 03:30 AM
You know, I figured the ending when he was talking to her at the door in the beginning. I have no clue why, but that's just what happened. I liked that you were going for all those shots with the extremely shallow depth of field. Just need to work out that adapter of yours and get those shots in focus!

Rodney V. Smith
02-20-2008, 07:29 AM
These replies are main for clarification, not excuses, adn I hope you're reading them after you've seen the movie.


Just need to work out that adapter of yours and get those shots in focus!

The out of focus shot were actually stylistic, to show his state of mind. i wanted to try to communicate on a visual level about his state of mind. I purposely did that in terms of handheld shots as well, going from tripod shots to eventually more handheld as his mental condition worsened. He's not in focus and he's definitely not stable. Maybe this story telling technique worked for some of you, maybe it didn't.


theres some good stuff here. Im glad you went psychological creepy on this!

Defcon, I'm glad you called it. You got it perfectly: the movie was intended to be psychologically creepy and I hoped that the creepy music and my choices in angles, etc would communicate that by the end fof the movie.


The story was neat, and I didn't know what was going on until JUST before the phone call.

It's hard to know sometimes without a test audience about which parts work and which don't.


when the dude is on the phone, do a VO from the dead girlfriend. so we actually hear her. that way we think she's alive throughout the movie, and then when she turns out to be dead it'd be more effective.

I originally had a voiceover. Now I really wish we also had heard Sara, just to throw everyone off to the fact that she isn't there... Oh well, choices we made... now just gotta fix them.

mentatDUKE
02-21-2008, 11:50 AM
Interesting film. Almost a one-character film. That help sell the isolation, but maybe it sold it too well. The wife was too conspicuously absent. The cinematography conveyed grittiness and made the viewer as uncomfortable as the main character.

Looking forward to your next one.

Rodney V. Smith
02-21-2008, 12:32 PM
"grittiness"... love that perception. Thanks for the review dude and quite glad I made you uncomfortable :-D LOL

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-22-2008, 01:39 PM
Well this is a challenging premise. Tough stuff and there's a lot of good work here.

SPOILERS ...


... I originally had a voiceover. Now I really wish we also had heard Sara, just to throw everyone off to the fact that she isn't there... Oh well, choices we made... now just gotta fix them.

Why not even see her. I mean who's perspective is the movie told from? I think that's a question you didn't fully answer and it's the route of
1) why people pick up on it so quickly
2) why the scoring doesn't work

If he's crazy and thinks she's alive. Then there's no reason we shouldn't as well. So really heavy horror scoring doesn't make a lick of sense when his phone rings. To him it would be great news - angry wife is calling me now ... whew fights over. It does make sense to an omnicient eye ... someone that knows all the facts ... but the audience does not have the information that she's dead yet ... so you do not give us enough information to sell that she's alive and you keep selling and reselling that she's dead.

I heard of a writing exercise where the challenge was to put elements in the story that made the outcome inevtiable and impossible or highly unlikely in equal measure. Here you are telling us the whole movie that the outcome is inevitable. And the way to suggest that the actual outcome is impossible or highly unlikely would be to ground the movie in his perspective. So all the scoring should only have to do with what he is feeling, which is not scared when she calls him on his cell for example. And all the shots should be chosen based on his perspective too.

Hitchock walked a fine line with it in Psycho. He did not show us Mom's face, but he made her a presence. Looking out the window, in silhouette in the shower scene. Choices easily justifiable because the shadow seemed to be a noir like / horror convention and unlike your dead character, she was creepy old lady and supposedly a homicidal maniac.

Anyway, I admire the heart you put into this, but think the problem with perspective made it ultimately unsuccessful for me.

Rodney V. Smith
02-22-2008, 03:06 PM
Thanks for the critique Jack and the eye opening as well. It wasn;t untl you pointed those things out that I finally understood some of what was bugging me. My cmposer had actually done quite a nice subte piece for the intial phone conversation, but I had to go and get too heavy handed on it and insist that he put those changes in to add to the creepiness.

You're right: that kind of omnescience is entirely out of place, especially coming from the story perspecitive. Too much over editing there I guess and a good lesson: sometime your composer, having a different perepective GETS IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! I'm going to have to apologize and buy him a beer or three now. (add to the final budget here)

Thanks for the awesome critique.

tmnt
02-25-2008, 11:20 PM
These kinds of films have to be written really well to work otherwise they can easily fall down. It was very early into the movie that I realized what was happening but I kept thinking there was some kind of a twist coming up. Perhaps his wife was killed (or kidnapped for ironies sake) and now he holds captive a blonde girl which he's stapled a brunette wig to look like her (he could hobble her, Misery style). Then at your dinner scene she's screaming at him and he only sees his wife laughing and sipping wine. And if you still want your neighbor character, cut the blonde girls tongue out.

Maybe you were constricted to two male leads? In that case have the lead think the neighbor's having an affair with his (dead) wife. There's your story with conflict and you can still have the dead twist at the end if you really want.

I think with a stronger script you'll do really well. Good luck.

Ian