View Full Version : Which NLE program can handle it?
ljosaa
01-06-2008, 10:20 AM
Some of my friends imported footage on to a with FCP and I'm pretty sure that they captured it to a MAC format. Don't remember what they're called but what I want to know is which PC NLE programs can handle that format?
Because I know Premiere Pro can't unless it gets a third party application installed.
Jason Adams
01-06-2008, 11:15 AM
If you are trying to get FCP (Quick Time) Into Premier(Avi) or Avid (MXF/OMF). You could export the files and re import them. It will probably be less work to re-capture the footage. You could export a batch list for premier. It is hit and miss coming from FCP, but we have got it to work on occasion.
If you asking how do you use the PC to open up footage and project files from FCP...The answer is you don't.
Your closest bet would be a translation software like Automatic Duck.
ljosaa
01-06-2008, 11:30 AM
I think the files are omf or perhaps Quicktime but I only want to import the raw footage into another NLE program. I can't afford Automatic Duck so I was wondering if another editing program is able to edit these file formats on a PC.
brianluce
01-07-2008, 12:47 AM
If you are trying to get FCP (Quick Time) Into Premier(Avi) or Avid (MXF/OMF). You could export the files and re import them. It will probably be less work to re-capture the footage. You could export a batch list for premier. It is hit and miss coming from FCP, but we have got it to work on occasion.
If you asking how do you use the PC to open up footage and project files from FCP...The answer is you don't.
Your closest bet would be a translation software like Automatic Duck.
So two editors, one a a pc and one on a mac trying to work on the same project is a can of worms?
Cryogenic Filmworks
01-07-2008, 07:20 AM
I drop QT files into Permiere Pro 1.5 all the time. Have you even tried dropping the files into Premiere? I can't say about omf though as I have non of those files (that I know of)
Barry_Green
01-07-2008, 02:34 PM
So two editors, one a a pc and one on a mac trying to work on the same project is a can of worms?
No, it's only a can of worms if the editor on the Mac is FCP. You can also get Avid on the Mac, or Premiere Pro CS3 on the Mac, and they should work completely interchangeably with their counterparts on the PC.
brianluce
01-07-2008, 04:05 PM
No, it's only a can of worms if the editor on the Mac is FCP. You can also get Avid on the Mac, or Premiere Pro CS3 on the Mac, and they should work completely interchangeably with their counterparts on the PC.
I'm so accustomed to associating Mac and FCP, forgot some people might be using something other than FCP on a mac. But yeah, how do FCP and PC editors work together?
Noiz2
01-11-2008, 10:34 AM
OK first lets clear some things up.
Quicktime is NOT a file format it is a wrapper and an application that can have all kinds of codecs added. So there is no application (including Quicktime) that can open "Quicktime files". A Quicktime "file" that is AVI will open fine in almost any PC video application (as long as you stuck the extension on it).
FCP to PC is also not nec a problem. BUT you have to be working in a cross application CODEC. If the FCP folks are working in Apple ProRes you are not going to be able to open the file since no PC software uses thar CODEC. If they are using DV files then you can move back and forth.
OMF, it's not a FCP thing it's an AVID file transfer protocol. The problem with OMF is that exactly what travels is a bit undefined, so the clips will move but any automation on the audio MAY not. In either case you need an app that supports the OMF file type you are using (Type 1 or 2). OMF is not "playable" or "openable" directly. It is a way to package up your project so someone else can open the package and import it. What ever you have on the PC side needs to be able to import OMF files. AND as I said you have to decide on a CODEC you can both work with.
Also Time lines. FCP can work with a slew of frame rates some other NLE's cant. You need to decide on one that both can work with. Sounds obvious but I have seen projects that for some reason were at anywhere from 15fps to 60fps.
Audio should not be a problem, except a lot of apps now "render on the fly" mismatched audio sample rates (FCP can also use mismatched Video formats/CODEC's). Some don't and some wont open a project with mixed sample rates. For compatibility EVERY thing (video and audio) should be kept at the SAME sample rate and SAME CODEC for the whole project.
PC's and Mac's work together all the time and it can be a pretty painless process. BUT you need to preplan and TALK to each other in advance so you can all agree on CODEC's and sample rates and file formats etc. It doesn't just happen.
Most Films are cut on Avid which has a pretty mixed user base (PC and Mac), some are done on FCP and when you get low budget it gets crazy with LNE's that have a lot of power but often don't "play well with others". Premiere on the PC and iMovie on the Mac are common ones that can be a bear to collaborate with.
On bigger films 95% of the audio post is done with ProTools (maybe 10% of that is PC based). The other 5% is everything in the world many of which also "don't play well with others".
So the other key is to find out how your two apps can play together. Each pair is a little diferent.
And BYTW Avid was a Mac only program for most of it's life.