I got pulled over last night...

[ryan brown]

at 2:20am after leaving the bar (worst time to be driving).

I don't have a license because of a DWI I got just a few months ago (my THIRD).

I was hammered.

I was basically screwed and going to jail for a very long time (this is, after all, Texas).



Untill...

the "backup" cop showed up, and it just happened to be a female. Well, the male cop got in his car to do whatever it is they do in there, and left me alone with the female officer. I gave her the sob story of my life (which was pretty much all true), and somehow she sympathized. She goes back to the other officer and they chat for awhile.

They come back and ask where I live; I drunkenly say I live right down the road (I could almost see my house). They ask if I could get someone to pick me up and drive my car; I drunkenly say YES. They ask if I'm going to stop drinking and driving - Yes.

I call a friend, and she comes to pick me up. I wake up in my bed this morning.


Probably not appropriate to post this here, but I woke up a couple hours ago, and just can't stop thinking how much that female officer saved my arse. I'd be in jail right now, and that'd be the least of my problems.


AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'M NEVER DRINKING AND DRIVING AGIAN.

And I recommend it to you too.





and that cop was smoking hot... I think I'll send a Christmas present to the precinct :love4:

and yes, I know, I could have killed someone. I probably should be in jail. I don't deserve to live. ect.

and... that's it.

[Robbie Comeau]

You're an idiot.

Edit- No I am.

Same thing happened to me last night. Me and two friends were in a car. The driver was sober as a bee (she just got out of her hockey game)

We were going to the guys house (he was sitting in the passenger's seat, and he was drunk)

We're one block down from his house, and he wants to drive the rest. She lets him. We're on a straight away, and he's speeding like crazy, and there is a little snow bank, about a foot off the ground. He runs over it, and instead of us skiding out, sliding, and possibly dying, I think we got saved from an angel cause we just drove right through it. We yelled at him.

He's beein driving since 12 (snowmobiles, tractors, dirtbikes), and he was actually pretty good, but he just started to speed as a joke I guess.

I was in the back the whole time, it's not entirely my fault, but it is, FOR LETTING HIM DRIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

We're both idiots.

[mcgeedigital]

Stupid should be painful.

[Jeff Anderson]

daamn you're lucky. I wont go into the how dumb it is to drink and drive, many others will I'm sure :) Just how about one up your resolution to never drink and drive and stop drinking all together. I never was good at just drinking a few, and pretty much stayed hammered for a few years in a row during college and after they asked me to not come back. Life is so much more pleasant when you dont wake up in your own vomit and actually know where you are :) Now to those that can drink and moderate their own intake more power to you - I'm not one of you...

[Robbie Comeau]

When ever I wake up, I know where I am, and I don't vomit...

Cause I don't drink of course ;)

[JConnors]

Yeah dude, you should really be thankfull your not going to have to deal with those ramifications which you totally deserve.

A few years back my Uncle, actually right around this time of year, was leaving the bar got in his car hammered hit some black ice, rolled his car, was thrown from the car and had the car land on the back of his leg, he's got a rod in his leg now and his lucky he's not dead or at least paralyzed, he's also lucky his passenger who was also thrown from the car wasn't hurt or worst of all that he hurt or killed another driver or pedestrian.

Heres what a third offense in Texas for a DWI brings - (If you didn't already know this)

Third Offense:

up to a $10,000 fine
2 to 10 years in penitentiary
driver’s license suspension: 180 days to 2 yearsThe minimum 2 years in a State Penitentiary. You ever watch lockup on MSNBC? I think watching that once would convince you not to drink and drive.

[Kegan]

Kinda crazy how cops can use their judgement in cases like that eh? After a while, they should probably just stop and go by the book.

I have to agree with Como on this one though, you're an idiot. I think drinking and driving is worse than street racing, although both are pretty bad.

I don't really have much to say on the subject though other than you're really lucky,

Kegan

[Robbie Comeau]

Passengers are usually the ones who get killed, and the stupid driver usually lives.

How does that work?

[ryan brown]

daamn you're lucky. I wont go into the how dumb it is to drink and drive, many others will I'm sure :) Just how about one up your resolution to never drink and drive and stop drinking all together. I never was good at just drinking a few, and pretty much stayed hammered for a few years in a row during college and after they asked me to not come back. Life is so much more pleasant when you dont wake up in your own vomit and actually know where you are :) Now to those that can drink and moderate their own intake more power to you - I'm not one of you...

Agreed, and I'm the same way. I'm now 28, and been drunk since about age 15 pretty much non stop. It controls my life. And I hate it... but only till the sun goes down and I'm off to the bar. Then I love it. And hate it.

[Drew Ott]

Eh...

You are a lucky man. I cannot believe they let you off the hook after 3 DWIs. My friend (also in Texas) got a speeding ticket for going 34 in a 30.

There are apparently twice as many cops out on Christmas Eve and Christmas than any other day of the year (other than New Years).

edit - When I say lucky, I don't mean that you are lucky that you are not arrested; I mean you are lucky that you did not kill anybody. Those laws are there for a reason.

[ryan brown]

Kinda crazy how cops can use their judgement in cases like that eh?

Yes. I didn't think there was ANY way to get out of that one. The second I saw the lights go on, I pretty much just gave up and said "fukk it". When he came to the window and asked for my license, I simply stated, "I don't have one, I just came from the bar, and I've had too much to drink."

[Kegan]

At least you were honest haha. Merry Christmas man!

-Kegan

[ugafan]

rcbrown - your 4th dui? dude, wtf?!! jail time in texas for this felony is a MINIMUM of 2 years. this is serious, you need to get your life together.

[Jeff Anderson]

Find something else to do. I got a night job and it pretty much saved my ass. Kinda hard to go drinking when you are at work every night. And holy crap can you save some money. Alcohol is expensive! I've also learned not to give a shit about much of anything (not necessarily the best thing in the world) and I just have no worries to drink away. I know you've had more than your share of troubles in life, but it could always be worse. I'd be viewing last night as your last free ride as I dont believe things like that happen twice, or ever if your me...

[ryan brown]

rcbrown - your 4th dui? dude, wtf?!! jail time in texas for this felony is a MINIMUM of 2 years. this is serious, you need to get your life together.

I know. And I'm not taking this lightly, believe me... time for a change, and believe it or not, I'm not one to say stuff like that every day. When I say it, I mean it.

[JConnors]

I guess Texas didn't screw you this time.

[Isaac_Brody]

Get help. AA would be a good start.

[ugafan]

I know. And I'm not taking this lightly, believe me... time for a change, and believe it or not, I'm not one to say stuff like that every day. When I say it, I mean it.

let's hope so. because if not, you're gonna be locked in a cage and become bubba's girlfriend.

[mrWr0ng]

you got SUPER lucky. I hope you take your advice, but to be frank, it doesn't sound likely. If you were drinking and driving after getting a license suspended for drinking and driving, it doesn't sound much like you've learned your lesson.

every time i get pulled over by a female cop, i get reamed. They always think they need to be extra "hard" to makeup for being a female, so they come walking up to my car, tell me to shut up and write the ticket. it's always been the guy cops who've spared me.

[Blaine]

A cab ride is A LOT cheaper than a DUI. It may not seem like it at the time, but hindsight is 20/20.

[Batutta]

I'm doing a documentary about rappers in jail. Trust me. You don't want to go there. Even these hard ass gangsta rappers tremble at the experience. Get help.

[Deepfocus88]

Do what my friend in San Diego did. Turn your garage into a bar. Trust me, people will come to YOUR place to drink if you do it up right. And you don't have to drive drunk.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/skaterat/Album%20III/PC013473.jpg

[Derrick_SA]

Hi there, I'm not judging, cause we all make mistakes, sometimes we are lucky to realize we have a problem before it is to late. I think you have a special chance here to make that change.

I would go to the presinct and get hold of the cop lady and 1. thank her, and 2. Tell her you are going to change your ways, and 3. MAKE SURE you get something to keep you busy at the times you would usually go to the bar, and ASK A FRIEND TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE!

You'll see in a couple of weeks the drinking habit could be gone!

- Derrick

[Hans Moleman]

Stay out of my state. The kind of person who would drive drunk is making the decision to take a chance at killing someone's father, mother, or entire family (as in my case).

[dory_breaux]

Wow you never seemd like the type who would do that.

[GaryinCalifornia]

Teen Challenge of Texas
maps.google.com

1106 Graham Ave # 308
Dallas, TX 75223
(214) 824-6181
Get directions

They have one of the best programs around... very high rate of staying sober...

[RJS]

I recommend that you do some research on drunk driving fatility statistics especially involving children. Then research your local paper and find the names that you can attach to those statistics. Pretty scary what people are willing to risk for an evening of "fun".

Many years ago I was pulled over and breathalyzed but let go....let me tell you it changed my life and drinking habits in a big way.

RJS

[mikkowilson]

duuude, not cool man. Everyone has said all there is to say about your luck that night. Glad you and all are ok.

But Como said it best. And that applies to anyone who drinks & drives.

About the suckiest thing is when you have to call the cops to help you stop friends from driving drunk, but it's something that just has to be done. I've done it in the past, and will do it again if I have to. Because if you don't, "suck" is no longer a strong enough word for the possible consequences.

Oh and Como; don't underestimate those snow-banks. My grandfather was killed when a snow berm spun him into oncoming traffic many years ago. (He wasn't drunk at the time, to my knowledge [but he wasn't wearing a seat-belt, which would have saved his life if he was]).

Hans; sounds like you might have a very sad personal experience? If so, my condolences, hopefully the culprit was caught.


And yes, of course there is no need to drink. I don't, and I'm quite happy. Plus I actually have money to spend. I make trips from Europe to the US about twice a year, on my own dime, as a college student. There are SO MANY better things to spend one's money on, than numbing down reality.

- Mikko

[Gord.T]

Alright. I (we all) got a story too but I'll save it for later.
Can we lighten up for a night?

[Kegan]

It IS Christmas Eve - we can all rip on (educate) him after Christmas is over.

-Kegan

[brianluce]

Do what my friend in San Diego did. Turn your garage into a bar. Trust me, people will come to YOUR place to drink if you do it up right. And you don't have to drive drunk.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/skaterat/Album%20III/PC013473.jpg

I'm not an expert, but this doesn't sound like a good solution.

[Gord.T]

I'm not an expert, but this doesn't sound like a good solution.


Lol, are you kiddin? I was just tryin to get down there.
Course, could use some women...
//errr. I mean 'more' woman. haha, lol , sorry ladies.
/haha, ya had to be there.

///Okay, nice chattin with you guys & gals. I'd better go before my ass is kicked outa here haha.
/// Have a good one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/skaterat/Album%20III/PC013473.jpg

[Spartacus]

Your will to change sth is a good start.
Get some help, getting of drugs, especially alcohol will be one of the hardest things you´ll have to go through in life.
Take some time for yourself, work out to connect to your body, your flesh, to regain your senses, meditate and try yoga or martial arts to connect your body and mind better again...
Maybe volunteer to help familys who´s lifes have been shattered because of some drunken a**hole, who ran over their father, mother, son or daughter...
Take back control of your live, for your own good.

All the best and a lot of strength to you...

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

Sounds like she was your angel. Be gratful and never forget the break that was given to you.

Learn from your mistakes. I've been there before.

[bosindy]

Be safe and make good decisions.

[HorseFilms]

A cab ride is A LOT cheaper than a DUI.

Those are words that I live by. I'm the last person in the world who can get away with giving someone a lecture on drinking, so I'll tell you this:

I walk to and from the bar (or get a ride home from a cab or other sober person). It takes me about 30 minutes to get there, but I do it anyway. It can be a freaking cold walk, but it's better than the alternative. Living in Texas, you don't know what cold is, so you should be fine.:)

To be honest, I've cut down on my drinking severely in the last few months. I realized that I want to live past 35, and I wasn't going to do that at the pace I was working on. I still enjoy and love drinking, but I don't hit the bottle heavily like I used to do every night.

Shhhh... don't tell anyone.:beer:

[ryan brown]

WoW. I appreciate ALL of the advice (including name calling), and support... except for Como's, cause I don't really like him.

HA! just kidding Como *kind of*

As the day goes on, it's sinking in on how "lucky" I really was last night. I won't go into specifics, but me going to jail would cause more turmoil on the people around me then myself.

No more drinking and driving for me, and that's the truth. As far as drinking goes, that's one I'll have think about, but I honestly don't see myself stopping all together. A cut back to a regular drinking habit is what I'm after here, and I think it's attainable if I really try for it.

Cabs, friends, walks, and staying in are in my near future... or a bar in my garage, of course.

Horse, I know what you mean, and my goal is to be on par with where you're at now. Secrets safe.

bossindy, that's one hell of a story, and I appreciate you telling it in the manner you did. Just being informative and sharing can often have more of an effect than judging and hostility.

[Jeff Anderson]

WoW. I appreciate ALL of the advice (including name calling), and support... except for Como's, cause I don't really like him.

HA! just kidding Como *kind of*




ROFLMAO.

[Hans Moleman]

Hans; sounds like you might have a very sad personal experience?

Bingo


hopefully the culprit was caught

Yep. thankfully they suspended her license for a whole 90 days. Surely that'll teach her a lesson AND bring my parents back. Oh. Wait. Nope. Still an orphan.


Alright. I (we all) got a story too

Does that sentence make anyone else want to throw up?

[MattinSTL]

and that cop was smoking hot... I think I'll send a Christmas present to the precinct :love4:





I wouldn't send an xmas present... you could get that lady in trouble. Do that discreetly or you might not be doing her a favor. Flowers from a secret admirer perhaps.

Also... God only knows what the prescription was on your beer goggles... what you think was > :kiss: sweetie, I'll save you... may have really been > :zombie_smiley: Mona save you but Mona want make baby...

[Kegan]

Wow, bosindy's story really got to me. Incredible story teller you are to get your experience across in such a meaningful way. I'm glad that you're alright and Hans - I'm sorry for the loss of your parents in such an unnecessary way.

This thread really is an eye opener and we should all learn something from it, even if its that we should keep a more watchful eye on our friends and family.

Merry Christmas everyone,

Kegan

[DivotDan]

Dude, best of luck to you. Drinking can really take you over. You have to be able to step back and know when enough is enough. I was in your seat not so long ago. No need for details but I decided it was a miracle I had not already hurt myself or more importantly anyone else. So I decided to give it up 4 years ago. It was the best decision I've ever made.

Quiting is hard, and it sounds like you are heading in the right direction. Having been in the same boat and looking back, I always have the same advice for people who ask me about drinking (dunno if you are asking but I'll give it you you anyway). I tell them to write down all the accomplishments and successes you've had as a result of being sober and the same thing for not being sober. Then write down all the trouble and issues you have brought on yourself as a result of drinking. Something about putting it in black and white makes it a little more real. Then you can always look back at that list and you have a very quick reminder about the value alcohol has brought you. The gratitude and thankful attitude you have right now can fade fast with a few in ya, so best to strike while the iron is hot.

Again, best of luck man. You are making better decisions already. It's hard making a lifestyle change like this and I for one will keep you in my prayers. And like someone else already said, find someone to help keep you accountable.

[SPZ]

Indeed. Incredible is that people under alcohol just have no conscience they are under influence. And they end up speeding.

I've lost my license for a month for speeding, but no alcohol. It was a perfectly safe 4 lane- 2 on each side, separated by a small wall.

Actually, this is a topic i've been thinking for a long time. Driving under influence is, of course, a liable offense and a crime, since you are a menace and a danger to others and are not in full control of yourself, but speeding... I mean, in Urban, populated areas, it makes sense, but in freeways/ Highways? I do not believe it. This is crossing the line of freedom. As long as the slow cars keep on the left (over here, at least) and the fast cars on the right, i don't see how this will cause any danger. Just look at Germany, with speeding limit of 250km/h!

And I do believe the driving school teachers are terrible. You never learn how to drive under extreme situations- heavy rain, aqua-planning, Snow, Flat Tire... These are dangerous situations you encounter every day. And you never learn how to deal with it. Some schools even teach with automatic gear cars! Incredible.

[DeSica]

Don't send the cop anything, because she hasn't done anyone a real favour...yet.

Sure, you didn't go to jail. Sure, you say you aren't going to drink and drive anymore...after being CAUGHT 4 times, is it? How many times have you done it and gotten away with it?

If a cop lets somebody who should really be behind bars or at least at rehab off the hook, and that person comits the same crime (or another) that costs someone their life or health or loved one, then what favour has been done? Who is to blame?

I sincerely hope you were spared so you could do something to help yourself...and not so in 2 months time you end up ripped behind the wheel, hopping the curb and hitting some innocent kid waiting on a ride...

Not to judge, but the best way to pay her back is to straighten up. Imagine how she would feel showing up to an accident and finding you there, drunk, while somebody else is being zipped up in a body bag.

I hope it all works out for you, but I have to say that I agree with the laws. When I was a kid, drinking and driving was a joke...

...a guy would plow down a family, and then the reporter would say "but he was drunk." It was like a defense in court. "Sorry, you honour, I was intoxicated..."

I actually know people who have one of those breath things you have to blow in before you start your car to make sure you are sober...and they complain.

Like being behind bars would be better?

[mjjason]

Giving personal advice over the internet is not something I normally do but you probably need serious help regarding drinking.

You already lost your license for a DUI and yet you still drive. That, in itself, is reckless. From personal experience every drinker has the morning regrets but nearly all of them return to drinking. If you really want to quit, which I think you should seriously consider seeing as your judgment does not look sound, than you need professional help.

Also, that female cop should be fired. What looks like a helping hand now can be a serious problem later if you continue to do what you do and end up hurting someone.

I know I am just a guy on the internet and its generally stupid of me to comment on someone else personally but you really need to take a look at yourself.

[brianluce]

Giving personal advice over the internet is not something I normally do but you probably need serious help regarding drinking.

You already lost your license for a DUI and yet you still drive. That, in itself, is reckless. From personal experience every drinker has the morning regrets but nearly all of them return to drinking. If you really want to quit, which I think you should seriously consider seeing as your judgment does not look sound, than you need professional help.

Also, that female cop should be fired. What looks like a helping hand now can be a serious problem later if you continue to do what you do and end up hurting someone.

I know I am just a guy on the internet and its generally stupid of me to comment on someone else personally but you really need to take a look at yourself.

This is all true.

[RicFic]

I don't have a license because of a DWI I got just a few months ago (my THIRD).

I was hammered.

Again? After 3 DUI's?


As far as drinking goes, that's one I'll have think about, but I honestly don't see myself stopping all together. A cut back to a regular drinking habit is what I'm after here, and I think it's attainable if I really try for it.


Sorry. I'm not buying it. That 'hotty" cop didn't do you any favors by saving you from a major hassle, she did society a great disservice.

Ryan, I have often read your replies in this forum and you're pretty insightful. You're someone whose opinion I respect. Reading that you've had 3 prior DUI's and were pulled over once again while "hammered" blows my mind.

I think you seriously need to consider the fact that you may have a problem.

If you really want to thank that cop you should be doing something more then "cutting back".

Not cool dude. Not cool. Think about it .

[jdmoviemaker]

You could have died.....But just because the world is full of party animals doesn't mean there are not party poopers ;)

[Simon Höfer]

Well, I can also just say, that you need help man. You have serious problems.

My stupid brother was also caught for drinking and driving. He lost his license for about a year. Had to make a medical psychological test and pay a shitload of money. Gladly that opened his eyes. But it was already your 4th time.

I really hope that you will stand by your word and change your life! I wish you the best luck. Don't fool yourself.

Merry Christmas!


Just look at Germany, with speeding limit of 250km/h!

What are you talking dude? That would be crazy slow! We don't have a general speed limit at all. You can drive 300km/h if you want to and have a car that is able to do so. Of course only on limited parts of the so called "Autobahn" (kind of highway). Many parts are limited, because it is not safe enough there.

[Mino]

Well…Our premier got busted for drinking and driving in some other country a few years back and he’s still running the show so I guess like him you have some invisible shield eh? I could call you crazy and say you need help, recommend AA and on and on but at the end of the day I shouldn’t have to. I can admit to doing all kinds of crazy crap in my life and in some cases I repeated it until I burnt myself but good. The will to correct ones destructive behavior comes from within when the time is right and never before! I used to drink and drive years ago but stopped due to many close calls. Interestingly, the other night I was coming home from a gig that went well and I was asked if I’d like to stay and have a few. I declined and one of the reasons was that I had a fair chunk to drive home. For fun, on the drive home, I pretended I had gotten drunk and was doing the old one eye driving trip, sort of testing the odds in my mind if you will. About a mile from my home I went through a Christmas roadblock and when the cop sniffed the air in my car through the open window and asked if I’d had any alcohol, it felt really cool to smile and say “not a drop”. Anyway, here’s hoping you got it this time and never find yourself teary eyed on a Sunday morning in a cold non caring jail cell wondering why you didn’t get it the last time and how in the name of god you will be able to live with yourself knowing you killed an innocent family because you couldn’t quit define your own lane. Cabs are way cheap in light of the possibilities eh? Hope you work it out and merry Christmas.

[Ming]

Don't send the cop anything, because she hasn't done anyone a real favour...yet.

Sure, you didn't go to jail. Sure, you say you aren't going to drink and drive anymore...after being CAUGHT 4 times, is it? How many times have you done it and gotten away with it?

If a cop lets somebody who should really be behind bars or at least at rehab off the hook, and that person comits the same crime (or another) that costs someone their life or health or loved one, then what favour has been done? Who is to blame?

I sincerely hope you were spared so you could do something to help yourself...and not so in 2 months time you end up ripped behind the wheel, hopping the curb and hitting some innocent kid waiting on a ride...

Not to judge, but the best way to pay her back is to straighten up. Imagine how she would feel showing up to an accident and finding you there, drunk, while somebody else is being zipped up in a body bag.

I hope it all works out for you, but I have to say that I agree with the laws. When I was a kid, drinking and driving was a joke...

...a guy would plow down a family, and then the reporter would say "but he was drunk." It was like a defense in court. "Sorry, you honour, I was intoxicated..."

I actually know people who have one of those breath things you have to blow in before you start your car to make sure you are sober...and they complain.

Like being behind bars would be better?

Ditto this. I was going to post the same thing. It's all good if you want to slowly pickle yourself, but a lot of good people die to drunk drivers. Fathers, mothers, families.. last year in Denver a man lost his entire family as they crossed the street in front of him...wife and two kids, mowed down by a drunk.

[tmnt]

Ryan I don't have time to read this whole thread now but I read all your first post. Mate I hope you can stick to the "never drinking and driving again" because drink drivers are probably the most lowly people on Earth. It's all fun and games until some innocent person gets hit by a drunk driver.

[ddp]

12 years ago I got pulled over drunk-as-a-skunk. By luck of the draw the cop let me go. Not proud of it but between that incident and a very persuasive girlfriend at the time, that was the last time I drove after even smelling a drink. within a year after that booze lost all it's attraction for me- "growing up" will do that. A beer or two a year is all for me now, while I'm sitting at home.

Can't say it will work for you but the thought of being that selfish and stupid again straightened me out. Your track record says otherwise but for the future of the people whose lives you could ruin, lets hope it's the calling card you needed.

[Blaine]

Ask Johnson or Hyten what it takes to get me out drinking. I will not do it if I have to drive....period.

[chris f]

well for now I wouldn't worry about not driving drunk, I'd start focusing on not driving without having a license. if you can't do that, then you don't have much of a chance of doing the other. stop thinking that you're above the law and good luck man.

[DeSica]

At least you are trying to make a change...too late for Jim Leyritz, and the woman he killed.

[Luis Caffesse]

Ask Johnson or Hyten what it takes to get me out drinking. I will not do it if I have to drive....period.

Same here.
Personally I don't understand how there exists a middle ground for anyone.
Then again, to be fair, I don't drink much at all - so one drink is enough for me to feel uncomfortable driving.

No need to recount all the stories here that I'm sure many of us have experienced at some point or another in our lives - and for those of you who don't know anyone that has died at the hands of a drunk driver, consider yourselves lucky thus far. Everyone has a story to tell, it seems - and if the countless people who have been killed by one easily avoidable decision doesn't change peoples minds about driving drunk, then another story from me isn't going to do it.

It seems (as with most things) that until something specific happens that affects us personally, tragedy is something that happens to 'other people.'

Best of luck with your newly turned leaf, Ryan.
I sincerely hope you don't find yourself slipping into your old ways.

If you find yourself in a situation where you're thinking 'well, just this one time", just remember the fear you felt when you thought you were going to jail. As long as that stays fresh in your mind you should have no problem staying straight.

[Gord.T]

I spent several months in the can for DWI during my 'stupid' years.
Let's say I didn't like it and never did it again. Sometimes it takes that to smarten up. I really dont know what to say, knowing people the way I do.
You get the idea from previous posts. It's your choice and you have to live with the choices you make I guess.

[Luis Caffesse]

It's your choice and you have to live with the choices you make I guess.

Very true.

But to me, the more important thing to remember is that other people have to live with the choices you make as well.
And they don't have a choice.

Just keep that in mind next time the key hits the ignition.

[Gord.T]

Yes, that's what I'm implying. We all know it. Are you willing to live with killing innocent people because of the choices you make, is the question that people need to ask themselves.

I'm saying that is part of the choice. But it's good to document the facts I guess and say it right out loud.

[Luis Caffesse]

Yes, that's what I'm implying....

I figured as much.


But it's good to document the facts I guess and say it right out loud.

Yeah - I don't see much need for insinuation in these cases.
:)

[hoz]

i dont know you from a hole in the wall but thank the stars you have yet to hurt anyone else. that you are conscious of this thought is most hopeful.

i will speculate though that you have already hurt yourself PLENTY. alcoholism is the slowest form of suicide. get help. you are worth it. how do i know this? personally, of course, i don't. i feel we are all worth it. but if you wish for a meatier reason, here is another...

you post here, you are a filmmaker.


now go get help, meet your personal demons and battle em back, they need you, you do not need them. And then when you are ready...

FILM!

[sean90291]

Truth is, most people have done it, whether they were caught or not. But you're also talking about a long-standing drinking problem. Very honest of you to talk about it, and maybe you're reaching out for help? I'm no expert, but it sounds like you can't stop drinking. And if it's a problem for you, you might find your drinking is altering your judgment so much that you will ALWAYS drive when you drink. I mean, after being busted several times, you'd think you'd have stopped by now, and you didn't. For some people, alcohol changes their brains. You sound like a serious, smart guy sober. But does that all change when you're drunk? The fact you say you could never stop drinking, but maybe cut back, is sort of telling. I mean, I like liquor, but it would be absolutely no problem for me to go completely cold turkey. It just doesn't have a hold on me. Sounds like it's a monkey on your back, though. If you are lookin' for advice here, I say try a treatment program and quit drinking altogether. Sounds like you and booze will never mix well. Just the way it is for some folks.

[Gord.T]

Luis?

I dont drive.
Have not driven in 24 years. Except tractors on a farm.

Not because I'm not allowed, not because I can't, because I choose not too.
Not out of guilt, no damn reason other that I dont want to.

I get the impression your looking for the negative in people.

Read and understand what I said, because I get the impression you are reading between the lines and looking for conflict.

[Batutta]

Truth is, most people have done it, whether they were caught or not.

Uh, well I haven't. I know my wife hasn't (although she didn't get a license until she was 30). And I know for sure my best friend hasn't because he's the only guy I know who's squarer than me. The most inebriated I've been was when I got my appendix taken out and they put me under...I don't like people making generalities like that. Perhaps most people who get drunk on a regular basis have done it. Anyway you slice it, there's no excuse for being that irresponsible.

[Gord.T]

Sorry Luis. I think I'm taking things out of context.
-Raptor going the hell to bed now.

[Luis Caffesse]

Sorry Luis. I think I'm taking things out of context.
-Raptor going the hell to bed now.

No problem - maybe I should have written more than a few words responding to your post , I didn't mean to give the wrong idea - but yeah, we're on the same page. I'm definitely not looking for the negative, and not looking for conflict. When I said 'I figured as much' I only meant that I figured you were implying the same thing I was saying outright... basically, I was saying - 'I agree with you.'

Same goes for the rest of my response.
No worries.
:thumbsup:

[Blaine]

.I don't like people making generalities like that. Perhaps most people who get drunk on a regular basis have done it. Anyway you slice it, there's no excuse for being that irresponsible.Well, you're obviously not "most people." I think you're over-reacting a bit here, Batutta. It's somewhat telling that you feel you're being spoken to here, when perhaps you should have just ignored this, being one of the few that have NEVER driven after drinking.

[12quidkidinnit]

I wonder how many people can honestly say, hand on heart, that they have never made a mistake. I'm not asking those people to speak up and say so, or for the others to say anything either.
My impression of this is that the cop assessed the situation and gave someone a chance to do the right thing. In view of the original poster's honesty both at the time and here in this thread, I'd be quite happy to leave the matter at that.

[Batutta]

This could be you--

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080101/ap_on_re_us/deadly_crash

[Kirk Gillock]

This could be you--

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080101/ap_on_re_us/deadly_crash

Batutta beat me to it.

[BLahey]

I am a bartender. (for fun) and I can say you really need to get your sh!7 together. just think of all the gear you cold have bought vs. paying our Govt fines.

tighten up and grow up.

if you thought it was funny, it isn't.

I live in FL. so here is some simple math...
1 DUI= hvx200+ANY 35mm adapter+mid-grade stix& head.
3dui's= the furure.
P!66 oFF,
L0v3,
'b

AA is no joke.

[BLahey]

except P+S adapters....

[mrWr0ng]

If you can't stop driving drunk, move to a big city. For New Year's, my girlfriend, our friends and I all took the bus. None of us were in a condition to drive.

[JConnors]

It's easy to not drink and drive when you don't have a car. You should sell it, not supposed to be driving anyways.

[Erik Olson]

When I was growing up, an entire family in my hometown was wiped out in a drunk-driving accident just like the one in Ohio. Except for the husband - he had to go on without his wife or their three kids.

I've personally lost one good friend to a drunk driver. The others who were in the car with him all had devastating injuries. One was so badly brain-damaged, she went from the high-school honor roll to its special education classes, with a months-long coma in-between.

If you can't simply stop drinking for a couple of weeks, you've got a problem. If you drink when you're alone - that's a major danger sign. Having a drinking problem, in my mind, is a completely separate issue from driving drunk.

It cannot be over-stated. Don't drink and drive. Please.

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