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Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-21-2007, 10:17 AM
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1202933095.jpg

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-21-2007, 10:17 AM
BTS

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1202219342.jpg


Cast Photos

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1201030797.jpg
Keven Elizabeth Wynn


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Jennifer Barnes


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Daniel Lavigne



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Phil Dukarsky



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Janet Rice


Production Assistant: Lisa Meuser
Boom Mic Operators: George Fisher & Lisa Meuser
Written by: Michael Anthony Horrigan & John LaBonney
Produced, Directed, Lit, & Cut by Michael Anthony Horrigan
Sound Mixing: Herman Witkam & Michael Anthony Horrigan
Film Composer & Sound design: Herman Witkam

© a More Cowbell Picture

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-21-2007, 10:18 AM
Added some grabs from todays shoot. Some minor Cc work...

Added some extra Cc work... getting close to what I want.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1201664555.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1201664590.jpg

Robbie Comeau
11-21-2007, 10:26 AM
Yay, looking forward to it. Your films rock!

John LaBonney
11-21-2007, 10:52 AM
I was lucky enough to get a sneak peek at the script. I'm looking forward to the film!

Robbie Comeau
11-21-2007, 11:18 AM
Kyser, can i see the script?

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-21-2007, 11:53 AM
Yay, looking forward to it. Your films rock!
Thanks! Nice to have at least one fan. :)


I was lucky enough to get a sneak peek at the script. I'm looking forward to the film! Thanks, John. Looking forward to seeing yours as well.


Kyser, can i see the script?Well, what John saw was more of a synopsis. We use each other as sounding boards for ideas on occasion. Maybe once I crank out a script I'll pass it your way.
I really don't want to let the cat out of the bag though. :happy:

Thanks again for the interest!

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-22-2007, 07:56 AM
I'm thrilled to announce that Herman Witkam will be scoring my movie!

http://www.herman-witkam.com/

I really better bring my A game this time.

:)

Thanks, Herman! :thumbup:

Dustin R. Rogan
11-22-2007, 08:06 AM
I like your style, to say I'm looking forward to it is an under statement!!! Good Luck Sir!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-22-2007, 05:14 PM
I like your style, to say I'm looking forward to it is an under statement!!! Good Luck Sir!Thanks!

I appreciate that.

Mike

tmnt
11-23-2007, 01:39 PM
Good luck Mike - not that you'll need it :thumbsup:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-25-2007, 11:35 AM
Good luck Mike - not that you'll need it :thumbsup:Thanks. I'll need all the luck that I can get though!:thumbsup:

I need to make a new poster as well. Maybe after I start shooting.
This one just isn't doing anything for me.

Cheers,

Mike

Kyle Stebbins
11-25-2007, 12:06 PM
Congrats on getting Herman! He's a very talented composer and works phenomenally under pressure, though I wouldn't recommend doing as I did (My film was being rendered down to the wire!). He still pulled through at the last minute and scored a beautiful soundtrack that sounded exactly the way I needed it to.

Looking forward to your film, Mike. ROCK ON
kyle

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-29-2007, 07:48 PM
Updated...

New poster and banner.
Added to the first post...

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-29-2007, 07:51 PM
Congrats on getting Herman! He's a very talented composer and works phenomenally under pressure, though I wouldn't recommend doing as I did (My film was being rendered down to the wire!). He still pulled through at the last minute and scored a beautiful soundtrack that sounded exactly the way I needed it to.

Looking forward to your film, Mike. ROCK ON
kyle

Thanks! Yah, he's awesome. He whipped together a "music box" melody that is just beautiful.

Perfect really...

Cheers,

Mike

Matty_g
12-12-2007, 04:25 PM
How does herman find the time to do all these scores? That man must be a machine.
Looking forward to the entry.

Herman Witkam
12-12-2007, 05:51 PM
How does herman find the time to do all these scores? That man must be a machine.
Looking forward to the entry.

hehe :-)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-05-2008, 04:16 PM
Here's an opening title that I've been working on...
Music Box (http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/movies/opening_title.mov)

It may or may not make the opening cut.
Probably after a little more work and different sound track.

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-07-2008, 09:35 AM
The above download in the previous post is around 3MB.

Just waiting for some rewrites of the script and then on to auditions! Hopefully I'll be able to shoot everything in one weekend. Better get my butt in gear!

Thanks to John LaBonney for helping out with the script.

Mike

Tom Marshall
01-07-2008, 11:10 PM
Hey Mike, good luck man! :beer:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-08-2008, 06:15 AM
Thanks, Tom. Much appreciated.

John finished touching up the script and I am posting an audition listing on a local web site.

Things are looking good.

Mike

tmnt
01-10-2008, 02:43 AM
Do you have much trouble finding actors? That's what I find the most difficult - not really in a 'acting' kind of town.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-10-2008, 05:47 AM
Same here. I'm still waiting for the audition to get approved and posted. They take a long time sometimes.

That's why you've seen some of the same actors in my movies. It's tough to get actors around here. Now if I was in Toronto.... I would have no trouble at all.

I shall persevere. :)

Mike

Robbie Comeau
01-10-2008, 06:03 AM
I am in Toronto, and I didn't have a problem, until I get emails stating that they thought the Auditions were in New Hampshire.

Kyser, we're the same here, cause we just pick the same actors. Looks like we're both doing the right thing here for Lovefest, by actually casting our characters :)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-11-2008, 10:42 AM
Finalized the script and I'm starting to get some emails for auditions.
I can't wait to get behind the camera on this one. It's been far too long.

I have some ideas that I'm just dying to try out.

I wish time wasn't such a hindrance. If only everyone had all the time in the world. :)

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-12-2008, 07:53 PM
I'm getting a surprising amount of emails for auditions. If half of them show up I'll be golden.

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-13-2008, 03:15 PM
Well, so far I've got >36 interested in auditioning. Pretty good for this area.
I need to fill 2 lead roles, 1 supporting, and 2 minor roles.

Usually less than a third show up for the actual audition.

Not much to pick from. I guess we'll see what happens.

Maybe I can find a gem or two. :)

Cheers,

Mike

Tom Marshall
01-13-2008, 04:02 PM
Hey Mike, good luck with the auditions!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-14-2008, 06:11 AM
Thanks.
I appreciate the well wishes.

I just can't wait to start shooting this thing! :)

Marlon Ladd
01-14-2008, 06:52 AM
Mike, looks like we're still on the same schedule. I won't be shooting until this weekend. Dangit! We're cuttin' it close. LOL.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-14-2008, 07:41 AM
Mike, looks like we're still on the same schedule. I won't be shooting until this weekend. Dangit! We're cuttin' it close. LOL.
Well, I'm auditioning this weekend so you're ahead of me. :)

I'll be filming the following weekend.

Hopefully!

:beer:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-17-2008, 07:24 AM
I'm sick as a dog and auditions are tomorrow. Should be fun.
At least I have >50 people confirming auditions with me. That's a record for an independent filmmaker in this area to be sure. :thumbsup:

I'm still trying to lock down the location.

Hope to shoot everything the weekend of the 25th. Should be fun...

Mike

Mark Harris
01-17-2008, 07:25 AM
Yeah, you will be right up to the wire by the time you shoot and edit and all. Good luck!

Ted Arabian
01-17-2008, 08:10 AM
I wish time wasn't such a hindrance. If only everyone had all the time in the world. :)

Mike

I hear you!

Sorry you are sick... I hope that you feeling better soon. Good luck on the casting!

-Ted

John LaBonney
01-17-2008, 03:24 PM
I'm sick as a dog and auditions are tomorrow. Should be fun.
At least I have >50 people confirming auditions with me. That's a record for an independent filmmaker in this area to be sure. :thumbsup:
Mike

Mike:

You were sick for Robin the Spy too, weren't you? Yikes. At least you've got a week to healthy up before shooting.

It's really exciting to have 50 people coming to audition! Wish I was there to help!

John

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-17-2008, 04:36 PM
Mark, yah... I'm pushing it a bit but I really haven't had much luck. I should be fine though.

Ted, thanks! I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

John, yah. Although I had an eye problem last summer. This time it's a bad cold and the eye issue has reared its ugly head again! The doctor said that it should clear up, just like the last time. I really wish you were here to help. It's hard to find anyone in Ottawa that's really into film making.

I just can't wait to get filming! :)

Thanks for the support guys.

Mike

ExtremeSleuth
01-20-2008, 05:22 PM
good luck with everything. can't wait to see the film!! sounds like its going to be cool

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-20-2008, 06:06 PM
Thanks guys! Casting is done.

I'm hoping to secure the location and shoot everything next weekend.

Are we allowed to post audition footage? Or just stills?

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-22-2008, 06:09 AM
Time for a brief intermission.

Please meet Phil. A 94 year old man who likes to talk about love and relationships.

Here is a short 1:45 clip. PHIL TALKS ABOUT LOVE (http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/movies/phil_small.mov)
It's <25MB

Enjoy.

BTW, this has nothing to do with my movie. We just shot this for fun.
Natural lighting.

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-22-2008, 11:45 AM
Updated the second post with cast photos.
Here (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1105220#post1105220)


Mike

Marlon Ladd
01-22-2008, 03:01 PM
Mike, the cast looks good. They look like the real-deal Holyfield.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-23-2008, 05:55 AM
Thanks, did you watch the video clip about love? :)

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1162030&postcount=39

Mike

Ted Arabian
01-24-2008, 12:38 PM
Hey Mike, Good luck here!

I just watched your All Hallow's entry. NICE WORK!!!

I am looking forward to seeing your next project!

-Ted

Marlon Ladd
01-24-2008, 01:45 PM
I couldn't get the clip to pull up for some reason.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-24-2008, 02:57 PM
Hey Mike, Good luck here!

I just watched your All Hallow's entry. NICE WORK!!!

I am looking forward to seeing your next project!

-Ted
Thanks, Ted! Glad you liked it.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-24-2008, 02:59 PM
I couldn't get the clip to pull up for some reason.
Hmmm... it worked for me on my Windows Laptop and my Mac.

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/movies/phil_small.mov

It's a Quicktime
H.264
<22 MB

The audio is pretty bad though.

Ted Arabian
01-24-2008, 03:01 PM
I definitely did. And I enjoyed "talking" to you today as well!

Best of luck!

Robert Eldon
01-24-2008, 08:59 PM
Looking forward to seeing this, especially if it has a music box in it!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-26-2008, 06:14 PM
Added some grabs from todays shoot.
Post #3 (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1105222&postcount=3)

Hope you like them...

Mike

Mark Harris
01-28-2008, 12:44 AM
I'm a sucker for nice tight close-ups. Are those the actual cc for those shots, or you in playing-around mode?

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-28-2008, 05:19 AM
I'm a sucker for nice tight close-ups. Are those the actual cc for those shots, or you in playing-around mode?Me too. :D

Well, I'm still playing around with the Cc but I do like the look in those shots. Do you have any suggestions?


Thanks,

Mike

Ted Arabian
01-28-2008, 06:19 AM
Nice grabs, Mike. Very lovely framing.

Mark Harris
01-28-2008, 07:17 AM
Me too. :D

Well, I'm still playing around with the Cc but I do like the look in those shots. Do you have any suggestions?


Thanks,

Mike

Well I may be the wrong one to ask. I am not a huge CC guy, outside of very subtle stuff. But the BW looks nice. I was mainly wondering if part of the film would be BW and part color.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-28-2008, 08:55 AM
Well I may be the wrong one to ask. I am not a huge CC guy, outside of very subtle stuff. But the BW looks nice. I was mainly wondering if part of the film would be BW and part color.Yes. I will be going B&W and Colour in this one.

Just doing some editing now...

My favouite part! I love editing. :)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-28-2008, 04:14 PM
Well... I'm at about 7:30 seconds. I can easily shave off 30 seconds or so... the extra minute is going to be tough though.

:shocked:

Robbie Comeau
01-28-2008, 04:18 PM
Damn, I guess you can't compete. Oh well...

Kidding, I hope you can trim that down, your films are always entertaining to watch Mike!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-28-2008, 06:42 PM
6:59 now...

Still a ways to go.

I may have to drop an entire act and just get right to the juicy stuff. :)

Mark Harris
01-28-2008, 11:13 PM
6:59 now...

Still a ways to go.

I may have to drop an entire act and just get right to the juicy stuff. :)


Really? I'm 6:59 right now too...well, I mean, my first scene is...

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-29-2008, 05:25 AM
Really? I'm 6:59 right now too...well, I mean, my first scene is...LOL! :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)


Why don't you just enter 3 movies?

:laugh:

Marlon Ladd
01-29-2008, 05:31 AM
I really like that second shot - the bedroom one. Nice cinematography. Hope you can get it cut down cz you really got me curious now.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-29-2008, 09:05 AM
I really like that second shot - the bedroom one. Nice cinematography. Hope you can get it cut down cz you really got me curious now.Cool. Glad you liked the framing.

I'll get it down to time, one way or the other. :badputer:

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-29-2008, 07:47 PM
Tried some Cc work today.
As well as cleaning up some sound issues before shipping it off to Herman.

Post #3 (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1105222&postcount=3)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-30-2008, 05:18 AM
Alright guys... please critique the Cc. If anyone wants to try their hand at adjusting it... please do. Just share your technique. :)

I think I almost have it where I want it though.

Cheers,

Mike

Ted Arabian
01-30-2008, 05:28 AM
I like what you did in both of those grabs. Especially the color one. You really enhanced that one! The B&W looks good but it really depends on what that scene is... I feel that it has a nice "porcelain" quality to it. But I am a huge fan of grainy, gritty B&W. Your version does have appeal, though.

Nice work! (But what do I know??? I am not a CC guy. Haven't really learned that yet.) :)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-30-2008, 11:53 AM
Thanks, Ted. I suck at Cc work but I'm slowly learning as I go.

I've got the cut well under six minutes now that I have hacked out a major scene. I just need to shoot about 20 more seconds of footage to help with a few transition shots and I should be good.

There will definitely be a longer Director's Cut running at around just under 8 minutes.

Cheers,

Mike

Marlon Ladd
01-30-2008, 02:09 PM
BTW, how long was the actual script??

Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-30-2008, 03:03 PM
BTW, how long was the actual script??
Just over 5 pages.

Any advice on the Cc?

I can take it... :D

mentatDUKE
01-31-2008, 08:13 AM
Hey Kyser. Good luck w/ the CC. It's the most fun, yet time consuming part of post. I'm sure you'll find a look you love. Looking forward to it.

tmnt
02-01-2008, 05:43 AM
I think you could play with the curves more but then again I'm in the 'crush the blacks' crowd (there's no good way to say that, is there?).

The b+w shot looks great.

This is a bit leftfield, but if the music box is magical or something, you could add a slight glow to the ballerina then in the revers shot you have pictured you could add a soft reflective lighting on her (Digitaljuice.com has a good tut on this).

I see you're all official with your name now too, Mike :happy:. I'll follow suit at some stage.

Keep moving!

Marlon Ladd
02-01-2008, 01:35 PM
Just over 5 pages.

Any advice on the Cc?

I can take it... :D
I like what you have, Mike, but it depends on what kind of mood and look you're going for. That scene looks a little dramatic with the guy and girl. The CC looks fine, but you might add some contrast - something to darken the dark colors a bit and bring out the whites a bit - thatz the only thing I can think of.

The B&W looks fine.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-01-2008, 07:49 PM
Thanks, guys!

I've since worked on the Cc a little more, it's a little more contrasty now. :D

I'll post some grabs for comparison tomorrow.

I've worked on a new edit and have it down to 5 minutes. I still don't think I can fit that other scene back in though. Still, it's flowing much better now.

Cheers,

Mike

Herman Witkam
02-02-2008, 03:49 AM
The film is looking great so far!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-02-2008, 10:12 PM
The film is looking great so far!:dankk2:

If you liked that cut I think you'll enjoy the new cut even more.
I think I'll send it to you soon and add some ADR work when you're finished. I'll be recording some later this week if everyone is available.

Cheers!

Mike

Maximus
02-03-2008, 08:19 AM
Great looking cast! Look forward to your film.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-03-2008, 08:08 PM
Thanks! Hope you enjoy it...

Cheers,

Mike

Zak Forsman
02-04-2008, 07:45 AM
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1201664590.jpg

reverse cowgirl? :evil:

Marlon Ladd
02-04-2008, 10:52 AM
LOL!!!!!!! WTF? Hilarious!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-04-2008, 11:37 AM
I didn't tell you guys about the XXX rating? Barry said it was cool... :D

Herman Witkam
02-04-2008, 04:09 PM
I didn't tell you guys about the XXX rating? Barry said it was cool... :D

Should I include some saxophone? :D

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-05-2008, 05:50 AM
Should I include some saxophone? :D
LOL! Nice.... :cheesy:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-05-2008, 05:51 AM
Added a BTS shot to the second post.
You can see how low budget this flick really is. :)

Zak Forsman
02-05-2008, 09:34 AM
who is the guy with the ditted mohawk? he's not listed in your cast photos. or am i missing something?

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-05-2008, 09:44 AM
who is the guy with the ditted mohawk? he's not listed in your cast photos. or am i missing something?He doesn't have a head shot available yet... should be getting one soon.

I may use a screen grab, but I don't want to give anything away. I'll probably wait for his head shot.

Thanks for the interest!

Cheers,

Zak Forsman
02-05-2008, 09:46 AM
sorry, i meant to write "dotted", not "ditted".

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-05-2008, 09:54 AM
I updated the cast photo area (post #2). Added one more cast photo and cleared up the issue with the missing picture.

Cheers,

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-06-2008, 06:08 AM
Updated last cast photo with a rockstar head-shot. :D (Post #2)
Waiting for Herman's score....

Can't wait to hear what he has come up with for my little movie.

Cheers,

Jason Ramsey
02-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Love the first grab of the little girl looking at the music box, man.

Later,
Jason

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-06-2008, 08:10 PM
Thanks, Jason.
Hopefully you'll like the story that goes with it.

Marlon Ladd
02-07-2008, 08:38 AM
Mike, check me out. I finally posted a few grabs.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-07-2008, 06:49 PM
Mike, check me out. I finally posted a few grabs.I did just that! :beer:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-07-2008, 06:52 PM
Well, the final cut is finished! Just rendering and trying a few things with compression. Running into some odd computer difficulties but I think I have them ironed out.

Just waiting for the score from Herman.

I may have to send him the final edit in order to make one or two tiny adjustments.

I'm hoping to have this uploaded tomorrow if he doesn't need to change anything.

:thumbsup:

Danielleus
02-08-2008, 10:27 AM
Love the grabs. And the shallow focus. Nice. Looking forward to this. Good luck finishing. AND compressing.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-08-2008, 12:00 PM
Love the grabs. And the shallow focus. Nice. Looking forward to this. Good luck finishing. AND compressing.Thanks!

I'm rendering the FINAL cut now. Sending it off to Herman with the audio tracks and foley work later today. As soon as he sends me the finished score/track I'm uploading it.

Maybe tonight? Not sure... probably by tomorrow at the latest. Feels good to be approaching the finish line.

It is now running at just under 5 minutes, minus credits. I'll work on those tonight. I've played around with some different compression rates and I'll get it in under 50 MB's for sure. Thanks to Jason Ramsey for a few compression tips.

Herman sent me a sample of the score and it is just amazing!

He's the man! :thumbup:

Cheers,

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-09-2008, 10:29 AM
Sent the score/sound mix back to Herman for a minor adjustment.
Should be uploading tonight!! *Fingers crossed*

I seem to have the exporting down to a science now.
I'll just have to check how it looks on my PC when compared to my Mac.

Cheers,

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-10-2008, 07:20 AM
Still waiting to hear back from Herman. :)

If you hadn't had the chance... please check out this POLL (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=124824)

Cheers!

dvpixl
02-10-2008, 08:48 AM
good luck

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-10-2008, 11:19 AM
Thanks! I'm uploaded... just awaiting approval. :)

Cheers!

PS- Herman rocks with a very special score in this one. He's quite the talented individual.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-10-2008, 07:21 PM
Damn! Trouble with the audio...
The upload has no sound on some PC's. Works fine on my MAC though. Switching to apple lossless seem to work but now the file size is too large!

UGGH!

Trying again...

Zak Forsman
02-10-2008, 07:26 PM
what audio settings caused trouble on pc's, michael?

Jason Ramsey
02-10-2008, 07:31 PM
I've had trouble with apple lossless in the past. In fact, I had a vid with apple lossless that was fine, but then when I upgraded to quicktime 7.3 it didn't have audio anymore. I'd avoid it too if I were you. Maybe it was just me, but that was my experience with apple lossless.

Try mp4 audio. It keeps the file size small and sounds real good. I did 32khz, 16bit stereo (this was on a pc), and then in other options under audio I chose "best"

Later,
Jason

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-10-2008, 07:35 PM
mp4 was the problem. That's why I'm now trying apple lossless.
THIS SUCKS!!

Any other audio codecs worth trying?

Lossless is at 24mhz/normal and it is STILL putting me over size.
I'm trying lossless 24mhz/fast now.

I'm not sure WTF is the problem on the PC end. :(
The mp4 plays fine on my MAC.

Jason Ramsey
02-10-2008, 07:37 PM
weird. mine is mp4 audio and was encoded on a pc... Haven't had anyone say it didn't have audio... Now you've got me wondering :)

Later,
Jason

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-10-2008, 07:50 PM
If Apple lossless doesn't work are there any other audio formats that are small but powerful?

Anyone?

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-10-2008, 08:13 PM
Bueller....










Bueller........








Trying AAC now. Apple lossless wasn't cutting it.

Matty_g
02-10-2008, 08:15 PM
We're using aac. sorry.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-10-2008, 08:18 PM
We're using aac. sorry.LMAO!!


On a more somber note...

This one almost brings a tear to my eye.
Roy Scheider dies... (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1182864#post1182864)

:(

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-10-2008, 08:38 PM
Got it!

AAC works on my Mac and my PC.
Uploading to the Fest now.

2nd time's the charm?

:undecided

Herman Witkam
02-11-2008, 12:16 AM
phew :)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-11-2008, 05:30 AM
phew :)
Tell me about it! :)

That was a close one. Thanks to Jason and everyone who offered technical advice during my crisis! They helped me work out my audio hiccup.

:dankk2:

Herman, you really made a special score for this little movie. Thanks again so much.

:beer:

Ted Arabian
02-11-2008, 07:22 AM
Hey Mike! I hate compressing this films. I am glad that you got past your bumps there. I, too, use AAC. Seems to work well and takes less space!

Congrats on the completion and upload.... LET THE FILM FEST BEGIN!!!!

-Ted

bosindy
02-11-2008, 07:43 AM
Hi Mike, looking forward to seeing your film, I like the cast and the crabs look great!

Thanks again for the compression advice, It was greatly appreciated.

Ted Arabian
02-11-2008, 07:44 AM
Hi Mike, looking forward to seeing your film, I like the cast and the crabs look great!

Thanks again for the compression advice, It was greatly appreciated.

Crabs? Did I miss the crabs again!?!?! :grin:

Dustin R. Rogan
02-11-2008, 07:46 AM
hmmm crabs....

bosindy
02-11-2008, 07:55 AM
yeah , i didn't eat much the last few days editing, i know a place Ted, up near you when the weather gets nice.

the grabs look great too:beer:

Ted Arabian
02-11-2008, 08:06 AM
I am just looking forward to the weather getting nice! IT IS SO F'N COLD HERE RIGHT NOW!!!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-11-2008, 08:12 AM
-29 degrees Celsius with the wind chill here at the moment.

That's about -20 Fahrenheit

Brrrr......

I feel your pain.

Ted Arabian
02-11-2008, 08:14 AM
Yeah, I know that there are people worse off than I.... but it's all about me. AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO CALIFORNIA, BABY!

bosindy
02-11-2008, 08:16 AM
yea, with wind chill we are at a balmy 1 degree F by comparison. Gotta love February

Ted Arabian
02-11-2008, 08:19 AM
Man, this wind is awful! It burns! I hate this winter.

Sorry, Mike... your thread is the latest gripe page!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-11-2008, 08:20 AM
Yeah, I know that there are people worse off than I.... but it's all about me. AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO CALIFORNIA, BABY!LOL! I'm not even sure how cold it is there. You could be colder than here for all I know! :D

There are plenty of places colder, that's for sure.

I kind of like it actually. My daughter and I were out there waiting for her school bus this morning. It was damn cold but she still had fun playing with all the ice. :thumbup:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-11-2008, 08:22 AM
Man, this wind is awful! It burns! I hate this winter.

Sorry, Mike... your thread is the latest gripe page!

No worries. Once we hit the 14th it's business as usual though!
Whatever that means... :huh:

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-11-2008, 10:50 AM
Nice looking cast and grabs dude.

Looking forward to it.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-11-2008, 12:01 PM
Approved! :)

Sweet....

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-11-2008, 12:03 PM
Nice looking cast and grabs dude.

Looking forward to it.Thanks for checking in, Jack. I'm really looking forward to yours. The RED in your hands and a budget! Should be pretty F'n sweet. :thumbup:

Marlon Ladd
02-12-2008, 06:02 AM
Hey, Mike. Finally made it over. You know yours will be one of the first ones I watch too. Were you pleased with how everything came out?

Ted Arabian
02-12-2008, 06:06 AM
Approved! :)

Sweet....
Woo Hoo!

Congrats Mike!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-12-2008, 10:20 AM
Hey, Mike. Finally made it over. You know yours will be one of the first ones I watch too. Were you pleased with how everything came out?
Yup! Pretty pleased. I did have to cut out a pretty good scene due to time but I'll throw that in a Director's Cut.

You would think I would have the room for it... my entry is locked in at 5:17 with 15 seconds of credits and a short opening title. That scene was just too long and it couldn't be chopped down without ruining it.

I really like the way that this entry flows though and I didn't try to jam in too much just for the sake of the extended 6 minute limit. I've been guilty of trying to do too much before. :happy:



Ted, Thanks man! Glad I made it.

Jason Ramsey
02-12-2008, 10:29 AM
Awesome, man. Can't wait. I still really love the grab of the little girl looking at the music box. The colors look real nice for this film.

Later,
Jason

Marlon Ladd
02-12-2008, 12:07 PM
Yup! Pretty pleased. I did have to cut out a pretty good scene due to time but I'll throw that in a Director's Cut.

You would think I would have the room for it... my entry is locked in at 5:17 with 15 seconds of credits and a short opening title. That scene was just too long and it couldn't be chopped down without ruining it.

I really like the way that this entry flows though and I didn't try to jam in too much just for the sake of the extended 6 minute limit. I've been guilty of trying to do too much before. :happy:



Ted, Thanks man! Glad I made it.
Now you got me curious about that scene. I'll ask more after I watch.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-12-2008, 03:26 PM
Now you got me curious about that scene. I'll ask more after I watch.Sounds good.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-12-2008, 03:27 PM
Awesome, man. Can't wait. I still really love the grab of the little girl looking at the music box. The colors look real nice for this film.

Later,
Jason

Well, I guess you'll love the new poster and banner. :D

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1202933095.jpg

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-13-2008, 05:33 AM
Woo Hoo!

Congrats Mike!

Thanks, man! We're getting close...

They should have one of those running timers counting down in this forum. :)

That would be cool! :D

Marlon Ladd
02-13-2008, 05:36 AM
New poster's lookin' really good. You're right about a timer too. That would be cool.

tmnt
02-13-2008, 07:12 AM
Mike that poster's great. Perhaps have the title and "do you believe in fate" in the brighter lettering and the rest in the duller.

Ted Arabian
02-13-2008, 09:04 AM
Mike! I love your new banner! Nice!!!

......

Just saw the new poster, too! Wow! Great stuff!!!

Really looking forward to this.

-Ted

Arrik
02-13-2008, 10:16 AM
Yeah your banner/poster is top notch. That pic and its color grad makes it happen. I'd appreciate it if you guys stop posting on my thread with your slick banners, making me look bad.

Thanks again for your help. Good luck and I cant wait to see this piece tomorrow.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-13-2008, 11:45 AM
Thanks guys! I think the new poster/banner is much better. It helps to have an actual frame from the movie to work with now. :)
I'll probably tweak it a bit more though.

I'll try the brighter text on the tag-line as well. :thumbup:
Edit: Tweaked it a bit.

Cheers!

Ted Arabian
02-13-2008, 08:44 PM
SPOILER ALERT...............>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>








Hey Mike, great job!

You have some really great shots here! I love the dolly from the past to the present. Wow. I also love the shot following the boyfriend at the door of the lovers. Very, very nice.

I did not care for the color in the bedroom scene. Seemed too blue for me.

Music and sound design were excellent, of course. Herman is the man!

I liked you ending though I don't quite get why the girls eye would open so wide. Did she see the future? If so, did she not see it coming when she was older?

For the most part, your actors gave a solid performance. I would like to have seen the woman go a bit farther with her abusive situation after the friend arrived.

I also felt a bit hit over the head with a few shots.... the guy discovering that he left something at home, the knife/letter opener shot, and another that I am not remembering.

Congrats on your film!

Thanks for sharing it,

Ted

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-13-2008, 08:52 PM
SPOILER ALERT...............>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>




I liked you ending though I don't quite get why the girls eye would open so wide. Did she see the future? If so, did she not see it coming when she was older?


Ted


SPOILERS

Well.... she saw a glimpse into her future. The question is... can she change it? Or is it her fate? Does she have to meet Mr. Wrong in order to find Mr. Right?

I'm really leaving this open for interpretation and this was done intentionally. Did what she see happen? Or is it a possible happening?

Sorry, that's just my style.

It's a love it or hate it sort of deal. :D
Glad you liked it overall.

Cheers!

Ted Arabian
02-13-2008, 09:02 PM
Well, I think that is only appropriate for a 6 minute short!

Great work, Mike!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-13-2008, 09:04 PM
It was actually around 5 minutes. :)
There will be a 7 plus minute cut coming later.

Jason Ramsey
02-13-2008, 11:54 PM
Kyser (Sorry, still know you as your old name :) )

I really enjoyed the style of this, and personally really enjoyed the color rendering that you chose for each scene.

I thought it was shot well and cinematically, and am still pretty blown away that this was a bare lens HV20.

On the acting:
Your lead female was pretty dang good and there is something very familiar about her. Can't put my finger on it yet.

The scene with her and the boyfriend in the bedroom towards the beginning was a bit over the top for me in execution. It becomes quite obvious that he is an ass monkey from the get go, so I think this might have played better had he just had one of those 3 or 4 venomous lines... Maybe, just "hey... get your ass back over here"... It went a little over the top with there being so much in that short few seconds (for me), and also going a little more minimal (besides having played against the obvious fact that he is an ass) I think might have helped to mask the weaker performance from him in contrast to the other two characters.

One other comment that I thought about after a 2nd viewing was is there some other way to get them in the bedroom? I know time might begin to become an issue, but maybe it's a bit too direct with her just being "can I show you something?" ? Perhaps, if they were chatting about the book, and a nice segue is... I know what book you need to read next... which is of course in the bedroom where the music box is...

So, they get to the bedroom and he can make reference to the music box to spark that last scene and her comments that she makes (which helped clear things up for me a lot on a second viewing) and leads us into the final moment as you have played it out, which plays nicely by the way...

I guess (trying to sum up my longwindedness) what I'm hinting at is that it seems that maybe it would have been nice if you could have explored a little less deliberate way to get them upstairs to the bedroom and the music box conv. to follow rather than her coming out of nowhere with the music box.

The inverse could be if you could somehow flesh a little more their relationship... and play it more as she wants to take him up there, she wants to kiss him, b/c she wants to see if he's "the one"... That could also be a compelling choice, and maybe that was your intention, but I didn't get it as it plays now.

Phew... sorry :)

Ok, about the "story". Once I watched it a second time, it made perfect sense, and I thought you executed and illustrated what you wanted to quite well.

You said you either "love it or hate it"... I'm neither right now... I'm just kinda holding my breath waiting for the next thing :) Maybe that's a good thing.

Anyways. I really enjoyed the look and what I saw as a lot of care taken in filming this thing to achieve the look and style that you wanted.

Kudos, and thanks to you as well for sharing your work with us. You've got some interesting stuff under your belt.

Thanks.
later,
Jason

Gohanto
02-14-2008, 01:29 AM
Very nice job here, I really enjoyed this. The story is very interesting by itself, and the tie-in with the music box works wonderfully. The first bedroom scene is a little bit too claustrophobic for me, backing the camera up a bit I think would've made the scene a little bit more natural.

Acting was very good, especially the girls.

The kitchen scene i really liked the shots with the candle sticks and it made for interesting close-ups.

The ending was very good and I really like how you didn't cut inside after the boyfriend closed the door. However, I think throwing in a close-up of the knife in his hand as he's outside in the bedroom would've helped solidify the ending a bit more.


A lot of well executed dolly shots.

Nice work overall. Easily in my top 3 at the moment.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-14-2008, 05:31 AM
Jason, thanks so much! I've made notes of what you have said and will take a closer look. After seeing your entry I really appreciate that you enjoyed my movie.

Yup, it was 100% stock HV20, no additional lenses or adapters.

Gohanto, I've seen that you have commented in quite a few so I really appreciate the top 3 comment! I shot the entire thing a little tight, that was intentional since she was seeing it through the music box.

I thought about doing that with the letter opener but I thought seeing him holding it up to his head like he did outside the bedroom would be enough.

I really wanted the story to stand out as much as I could and I wanted the theme of Love to be strong. Sometimes the theme is a little overshadowed.

I think that viewers will get even more out of this the second time around if they see fit to watch it twice.

Thanks so much guys!

Gohanto, I'll be watching yours soon.

Cheers,

Maximus
02-14-2008, 06:12 AM
Hi Mike,

Great that you got another film done. I know how challenging, yet fun, it is.

Unfortunately, I had some problems with the film. These comments are intended to be constructive.

I didn't really get the story. After reading your post, I know now what you intended, but I did not get the fact that the little girl was looking into the future. I thought she was looking into the past, partly because her nanny advises her to look into the music box, as if the nanny knew something the little girl didn't. Also, at a film 101 level, the fact that the girl looked to the left, and you panned to the left, suggest to me going back, as opposed to going forward. This is a western culture thing, related to our style of writing, ie some asian countries would take it the exact opposite.
In any case, I thought the girl was seeing her nanny's story, again the nanny's initial prompting suggested to me some involvement in the story. That was confusing.
Also, from reading your post, I now know that the neighbor was supposed to be the battered woman's "true love". That didn't come across at all to me. When they get together in the bedroom, I did not feel any love at all, but lust. Ironically, when the bad man came back into the house and found his partner with another man, I no longer felt for the woman, but felt sorry for the jerk! Maybe that's why he was such a jerk. He suspected all along his wife was a no good... who was bangin the neighbors whenever he was away. It is surprisingly easy to change an audience's perception of a character, and change their allegiance.
The closeup of the knife/letter opener, as mentioned already, was not necessary. It was such a jarring obvious insert, it takes you out of the moment, and screams: "This weapon is gonna be used soon, get ready!" If his weapon was more exotic or unexpected to find in an average suburban home, like a say an Amazonian dart gun, then setting it up subtly at the beginning might have been a good idea.
I personally did not like the desaturated, greenish color grading.
To sum up, I would have a hard time explaining this story to another person. I could guess, but as I mentioned earlier, my guess, was totally wrong from what you intended. It is fine that some films are open to different interpretations, but in those cases, the viewers are convinced their interpretation is the only correct one (rightly or not):)
Anyhoo, sorry to sound so harsh and negative. There were certainly some good points, the camerawork, some of your framing, the actors for the most part, the music and sound. This was a very ambitious project, and as with all films, I'm sure you learnt alot. That's what these short films fests are all about, honing our craft.

You got talent! I look forward to your next film.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-14-2008, 06:29 AM
Thanks! Well, I'm not one for explaining things, either you get it, or you don't. I will try a bit though.
Usually going from black and white to colour represents going from the past to a possible future. Film 101 :)

Really... you felt sorry for the physically and emotionally abusive husband!??
I don't get that one, won't try to either. This obviously wasn't your cup of tea.

No biggie though! Thanks for watching.

Cheers,

Maximus
02-14-2008, 06:44 AM
Hey Mike,

After reading your response, I just wanted to clear up a possible misunderstanding. My reference to Film 101 was in no way intended as an insult. My bad for not being more clear. I was referring to the numerous film books and courses that offer "film theory". Frequently mentioned are the psychology of shots and the effect on an audience. I personally, find much of that to be mumbo jumbo. I just threw that out there as an example of "Film 101", and in no way was I suggesting your film or your abilities were at that level.
Regarding my other comments, dismiss at will, no offense taken. I too am not usually one to explain things, in this case I thought my comments might be helpful. :)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-14-2008, 06:52 AM
No problem at all! I just thought going from black and white to colour was a bigger clue than which way she was looking.

This is going to be one of those movies for me, as I think most of my work is. :)
The post before yours mentions that I'm in their top 3...
Different strokes for different folks.

I actually agree with some of what you said and will take it heart, believe me.

Thanks again for posting! Sincerely.

Cheers,

bosindy
02-14-2008, 07:06 AM
Mike,

a lot of great stuff here. I liked how you handled the opening sequence. really nice way to go from flashback to present. The girl and the guy who comes to visit played well off each other. The little girls was very good in it.

Couple of technical things, the sound could have been cleaner for the dialogue particularly in the scene between them downstairs. The foreshadow cut to the letter opener made it seem like it was upstairs in the room with them and not on the downstairs table. That shot needed to be anchored more to the environment downstairs.

I like how you ended it, with leaving it open. It also built nicely while the abusive boyfriend waited outside the door. The shot composition overall was very strong, very good framing in general. I liked the film a lot and I look forward to seeing more of your work. (you also win for coldest location so far)

Jim

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-14-2008, 07:23 AM
Awesome! Glad you really liked it. Especially the ending.
I had a lot of thought over what I was going to do there. I think I made the right choice.

We kept picking up a standard time radio frequency, which got worse every time I approached metal. Like the light stands and such. I really ought to post a sample. It was like... beep beep beep... the time is now... and of course it repeated every minute. :)
I had fun with that. Took a lot to get it out. Herman's mixing helped out a great deal as well.

Well, I show the same table early on in the film when he grabs his keys. I'll look at it again though.
Some wider shots would have really helped but I really wanted everything tight on this one. Still, I should try and clear that up so it's not an issue.

Thanks again for taking the time to watch and comment!

Cheers,

Robbie Comeau
02-14-2008, 12:56 PM
I'm going to have to go with Jason on this one and call you Kyser, just cause I'm used to it, ESPECIALLY with all those PM'S I've been sending you in the past months...:thumbsup:

The film, was good. Acting, was great. The actors you chose really look like they put their heart out for this one.

The shots were well done as well. You use the HV20 eh? I thought you had the A1 on this one.

Audio was great to.

I know your films, tend to usually end in a dark way. (JOEL 3:15, and the one where the girl gets kidnapped (the same actor in this movie I believe)) and while the ending worked for those films (IMO) I still don't know if it does for this one, and I'm still deciding wether I like the ending or not.

The story was good though, don't get me wrong here. I'm just a little off by the ending, that's all.

Your films are a blast and I enjoy all the stuff you post.

I hope to see more from ya man,

Robbie

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-14-2008, 01:28 PM
Thanks, Como! Actually no, these were all new actors. Never worked with any of them before. Glad you liked it.

Cheers!

Wild Imagination Films
02-14-2008, 11:39 PM
I felt the acting was the second weakest part of this film. The first was the dialog. It is too easy to make the boyfriend out to be a jerk by having him launch a volley of "F" bombs at the actress. His haircut and demeanor are a little on the stereotyped side for my taste as well. I will say this film gets the highest marks for the least believable kiss.
If we are to believe the young version of the girl saw the final scene in her music box years earlier, then why would she let it play out now?
After having seen your previous work, I was more than a little disappointed in this entry. Sorry.

tmnt
02-15-2008, 02:28 AM
Mike I still haven't been able to check the film out (house flooded) but I'll echoe Como and say you have to stop killing people! lol. I had to laugh because I always kill off people too. Maybe next fest our goal should be to be nice to the characters?

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-15-2008, 05:15 AM
If we are to believe the young version of the girl saw the final scene in her music box years earlier, then why would she let it play out now?
After having seen your previous work, I was more than a little disappointed in this entry. Sorry.
Who's to say what she saw HAS to take place? :)

Sorry you didn't like it. Thanks for watching though.
I knew going in (as I said to a few people in this forum) that this movie was going to be hit or miss with a lot of people.
I actually don't mind so much, I went out on a limb with this one.

I still stand by it though.

Cheers,

Maximus
02-15-2008, 07:13 AM
Hi Mike,

I came across an article today that I think might articulate more clearly one of the comments I made re. your film. The point I was trying to make was re. audience empathy, and Bill Martell sums it up pretty well. BTW, I visit his site daily for his writing tips, and would heartily recommend the site to anyone with an interest in writing screenplays.

http://www.scriptsecrets.net/tips/tip225.htm

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-15-2008, 08:00 AM
Thanks, just note one thing. I don't always stick to specific guidelines or rules when it comes to making movies. Except for the 180 rule and such. I've read quite a bit about it myself, I don't always agree with everything though.

If everyone stuck to the same formula while making a movie this would be a pretty dull Fest. :)

It does look like a good article though so I'll give it a look.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-15-2008, 08:04 AM
Mike I still haven't been able to check the film out (house flooded) but I'll echoe Como and say you have to stop killing people! lol. I had to laugh because I always kill off people too. Maybe next fest our goal should be to be nice to the characters?
:)

I like dark films, although Robin the Spy was quite light and humourous. Great script by John LaBonney.

Should Stephen King start writing romance novels? :D
And no, I'm no Stephen King... just an example.

Sorry about the flooding problems dude!

tmnt
02-15-2008, 08:23 AM
Should Stephen King start writing romance novels? :D
And no, I'm no Stephen King... just an example.
You didn't see Carrie?

About the flooding, I'll be back in town hopefully tomorrow so that'll be interesting. Good news though, 3 people presumed very possibly dead are ok. I think there's some kind of curse when the films become available for download each fest - last time something happened too were I couldn't get em for a month or two.

Continued good luck with your flick Mike.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-15-2008, 10:01 AM
You didn't see Carrie?

LOL! :grin:

Zim
02-15-2008, 10:16 AM
So far I've tried to download your film twice and it stops at 11.6 mb.

I have had about 10 films so far that won't download either.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-15-2008, 10:23 AM
I've had a couple as well. I reported the link issue in the broken link thread.

Thanks! I replied to your PM as well.

Cheers,

Zim
02-15-2008, 11:02 AM
I'll try it again,,,I got to the part when the guy is ringing the doorbell....

Zim
02-15-2008, 11:26 AM
Your film I thought was really good. I think it told the story well.
When the guy turns around and goes back home you know there is going to be trouble. "get out of the house" I like those feelings watching a movie.

Plus you know something happened. Maybe as a little girl she saw her husband get killed!

Well done.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-15-2008, 11:35 AM
Your film I thought was really good. I think it told the story well.
When the guy turns around and goes back home you know there is going to be trouble. "get out of the house" I like those feelings watching a movie.

Plus you know something happened. Maybe as a little girl she saw her husband get killed!

Well done.

After all that trouble I wasn't sure what to expect until you PM'd me. :D

" Plus you know something happened. Maybe as a little girl she saw her husband get killed!"

Thank you for thinking outside the box!!
So many people assume what happened... yet I didn't show them a thing. :)
I love leaving things open to interpretation. I can understand why some people don't though.

So many people hated the ending for "No Country for Old Men".
I loved it.

Thanks for watching & commenting.

Cheers,

Mike

DJ Lewis
02-15-2008, 11:56 AM
So I heard that peole are doing great things with the HV20... You ARE one of those people.

But the HV20 is just a little paint brush to help get out your vision. You did that and then some dispite its limitations. Good story and definitly a memorable flick.

I want to see more from you...

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-15-2008, 12:08 PM
So I heard that peole are doing great things with the HV20... You ARE one of those people.

But the HV20 is just a little paint brush to help get out your vision. You did that and then some dispite its limitations. Good story and definitly a memorable flick.

I want to see more from you...
Thanks, man!

Just some inside information...

This was shot in about 9 hours over 2 afternoons.
No adapters were used, just stock HV20 footage.
I directed, shot, lit, edited, and even leaned the Mic up against the wall on occasion.
Although I did have two friends who took over the boom and kicked butt!
I owe them.

I also owe a big :thumbsup: to Herman for the score and sound mix! He really came through for me.

John LaBonney also helped me with the script at a point when I had hit a mental roadblock. He got me right back on track! I owe him as well. I wrote him a synopsis and he came through, then I had a revelation and finished it up.

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.

Cheers,

Anthony Pierce
02-15-2008, 01:59 PM
I really hope checker head loses the fight in the bedroom. I thought the acting was good, and I love the look. Well done.


Watch my Lovefest Entry! goodSAM here (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=122993)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-15-2008, 06:21 PM
I really hope checker head loses the fight in the bedroom. I thought the acting was good, and I love the look. Well done.


Watch my Lovefest Entry! goodSAM here (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=122993)
Thanks man. As you already know... I really liked yours.

I'm happy that more and more people are starting to wonder about the ending and coming up with different possibilities. It's nice to see that people are thinking about what that little girl may have seen.

Cheers!

KenV
02-16-2008, 04:29 AM
Story was good, actors were bad, the sound sucked, but not the score.

But what do I know.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 05:36 AM
Story was good, actors were bad, the sound sucked, but not the score.

But what do I know.LOL! Thanks audio guy! :D

KenV
02-16-2008, 05:55 AM
Np =)

n8ture
02-16-2008, 06:21 AM
I think she saw the future as a little girl, so when checker head comes into the room she pulls out a nine and pops a cap in his ass and the music played on.

Chris Messineo
02-16-2008, 06:39 AM
I love that opening transition from the child to the adult - beautiful.

Great story. What a dark and mysterious ending. I really want the bad guy to get it. I wish I could see more.

Excellent shots throughout.

The music was haunting and perfect. Herman does an awesome job.

Very well done.

Ian-T
02-16-2008, 08:29 AM
I think she saw the future as a little girl, so when checker head comes into the room she pulls out a nine and pops a cap in his ass and the music played on.
LOL...I agree..she had something waiting for him....or...she knew that her new love interest was able to kill him so she let it play out just as she saw it...LOl...Kyser does it again (left us scrambling for our own conclusion)...good job. IMO all of the acting (adults) could have been a bit stronger but I think the guy who played the "true love" did a great job. i watch a lot of "B" movies on cable...so the acting here was on par or better than some of what I see...it was not terrible...just could have been stronger. The little girl (though she did not have much to say) was good. At the end I think you could have waited just a little longer before the mother said.."....what's wrong"..cause I didn't have enough time to absorb the child's own reaction to what she saw.... Camera moves and angles were great. Music score was good too.

Is it me...or does the little girl look like a relative of the kid who starred in "Home Alone?"

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 11:55 AM
I love that opening transition from the child to the adult - beautiful.

Great story. What a dark and mysterious ending. I really want the bad guy to get it. I wish I could see more.

Excellent shots throughout.

The music was haunting and perfect. Herman does an awesome job.

Very well done.Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Always leave them wanting more... :D
Herman's score was haunting! That's exactly how I described it to him when I first heard it.

Thanks for the great comments.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 11:59 AM
LOL...I agree..she had something waiting for him....or...she knew that her new love interest was able to kill him so she let it play out just as she saw it...LOl...Kyser does it again (left us scrambling for our own conclusion)...good job. IMO all of the acting (adults) could have been a bit stronger but I think the guy who played the "true love" did a great job. i watch a lot of "B" movies on cable...so the acting here was on par or better than some of what I see...it was not terrible...just could have been stronger. The little girl (though she did not have much to say) was good. At the end I think you could have waited just a little longer before the mother said.."....what's wrong"..cause I didn't have enough time to absorb the child's own reaction to what she saw.... Camera moves and angles were great. Music score was good too.

Is it me...or does the little girl look like a relative of the kid who starred in "Home Alone?"Thanks, I thought the acting was pretty decent overall. I agree that it could have been stronger in some areas but as the Director I'll take responsibility for that.

And yup... that's me. I love to the leave the audience with a little bit to figure out on their own. :D

There's a lot of smart people on this forum, they don't have to be spoon fed everything.

Thanks for the comments and critique! I appreciate it.

Cheers,

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 03:59 PM
I think she saw the future as a little girl, so when checker head comes into the room she pulls out a nine and pops a cap in his ass and the music played on.LOL! That was actually a joke that we discussed while shooting. I said that she hid it in the Music Box. :laugh:

Geoff_R
02-16-2008, 05:00 PM
Cool flick man. I liked the concept/story. I was on edge with the whole boyfriend coming back bit, something bad is going to happen. I liked the interaction between the girl and the neighbor, but not so much the girl and the boyfriend. The little girl was really good I thought; I know it's hard to find kid actors who don't constantly overact.

I like how we don't see what happens...maybe she knew it was coming, saw her future, etc. I think it might have been cool had the little girl's reaction been a little more subtle (not sure if that's the right word heh). I feel like she saw her own death or 'his' death, but if she had seen that, wouldn't she take preventative action? I've had numerous, long, in depth, 'timetravelesq', see the future ability' conversations so all these questions and 'what ifs' immediately come to mind. I love ambiguity, so kudos on the ending :)

Mark Harris
02-16-2008, 06:20 PM
Hey Michael,

I've been chewing on this one since I watched it on Wed. I like the concept. I actually like n8ture's take that she was seeing the future. Is that it? But if that was it, and she knew the future from the time she was a little girl, why not avoid the checkerhead altogether when she grew up?

The thing that's been bugging me, and I haven't been able to put my finger on until now, is I think it needs more time. I felt like we did not get enough time to build these characters. I wanted checkerhead to be a little more 3D than he was. It was a little bit of story-deck-stacking that he is just this prick, when it's more interesting to see him hurt by her betrayal, because in his mind he doesn't do anything wrong. Maybe not that exactly, but just an example of ways I think the characters could have been made more real and human.

But nice work! I like your ideas, like the idea in JOEL(which might actually have played well for this fest as well). I like you putting these fantastical elements into realistic settings.

Am I stupid about what was up with the box?

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-16-2008, 06:40 PM
Hey Michael.

I liked the grandmother and Daniel's acting. She had almost a fairy tale delivery to her vocal quality and I thought Daniel was pretty engaging and natural.

SPOILERS THROUGHOUT

I liked the tone of the story very much, but I guess I'm in the minority judging from the last few posts but the ending didn't seem intentionally open ended at all to me, just confusing. There was nothing in her demeanor that said she'd taken any kind of evasive action or was ready ... in fact, her eyes pop open wide when the abusive guy comes in ... also she seems passive, not like someone that's laid a trap ... and why if she's seen her future, would she ever move in with the guy that's gonna kill her, or the true love, or that she has to kill ... just makes no sense at all to me. Sorry I don't get it.

I think for an open ending to work a la the French Connection or Constance, say. That either the options for the ambiguity have to be clear or it's likely that things will go on much the same, as in No Country or Lost in Translation. At the end of French Connection when we hear the shot in the dark, we know either Hakman was shot or the bad guy was shot, or possibly it was a stray shot and the bad guy gets away (the ending which would jive with the true life source material).

But you know what the characaters want or are going after when that up in the air ending comes. Hackman wants the bad guy, Murray wants a connection, Jones wants meaning.

Here I had no idea what she wanted, it seemed that she saw her death or some tragedy in the mirror as a girl and then marched reluctantly towards it. If she took any steps to do anything about it I couldn't see it. It's one thing to say people are smart and don't have to be spoon fed but you have to actually put some meaning, some suggestion of purpose on the screen, and again I didn't see anything like that. To me the story boiled down to ... "your gonna make out with your true love and your boyfriend will come in and something terrible will happen ..." ... and then she meets the guy from the vision, they move in together, she endures abuse, and waits for a tragedy which she has foreseen to go right ahead and happen ??? She just seems sad about being stuck ... but then again shocked to see the abusive guy come in ... makes zero sense to me ... sorry don't mean to go on and on, but I get confused even trying to follow any thread of logic to write about it.

So not to harp. But because I feel like I'm having difficulty being clear, I don't object to the ending being open, but when the ending came I felt like you had done zero to tell us where the chess pieces were on the board and what the most important chess piece, your protag, wanted and why. Just utterly confused and lost.

Incidentally, I'm recutting Unawakening to make some things clearer for a larger audience. Not talking down to the audience is noble but remember its a communication process and you have to be willing to re-examine the encoding if your getting back a certain percentage of confusion in the decoding.

I liked the tone and feel and general concept and particularly Daniel's acting. But I found the piece as a whole to be much weaker than Joel 3:15.

Looking forward to your next piece.

Jack

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-16-2008, 07:10 PM
BTW, taking another look, I do like a lot of the camera movement very much, just as I did in Joel 3:15.

SPOILERS
As I said, I took another look and I think see at least what you were going for ... that she's resigned to an awful fate ... really listening to each line on a second viewing "do you think you can change something that happened in the pat" (but we're not talking about the past, we're talking about something she saw in the past but which hasn't happened yet) "Somethings are just meant to happen" OK so I get your thematic territory ... but there's two problems I think, 1) plausibility in terms of human behavior and 2) her performance. Regarding 1) features are made and novels are written about people trying to change a foretold bad fate. I'm halfway through Koontz's Odd Thomas right now, about a 20 year old fry cook that sees dead people and other phenomenon and everyone is going out of their minds trying to stop what they think will be a bowling alley masacre based on a few fragments of visions and evidence ... so why would she put this guy she loves in the middle of a jackpot ... I just don't think people march toward doom, and especially put their new found loved ones in the middle of it. Regarding 2) her performance ... maybe she didn't have the skill or you and she didn't nail it together to pull off "I'm marching towards disaster with my one true love for the few moments of life I will have with him" She seemed sad when the true love came over, then just happy to make out with him, and then again surprised when the boyfriend came in ... so maybe that is character arc / performance problems not tracking with the given circumstances of the world you've set up.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 07:39 PM
Cool flick man. I liked the concept/story. I was on edge with the whole boyfriend coming back bit, something bad is going to happen. I liked the interaction between the girl and the neighbor, but not so much the girl and the boyfriend. The little girl was really good I thought; I know it's hard to find kid actors who don't constantly overact.

I like how we don't see what happens...maybe she knew it was coming, saw her future, etc. I think it might have been cool had the little girl's reaction been a little more subtle (not sure if that's the right word heh). I feel like she saw her own death or 'his' death, but if she had seen that, wouldn't she take preventative action? I've had numerous, long, in depth, 'timetravelesq', see the future ability' conversations so all these questions and 'what ifs' immediately come to mind. I love ambiguity, so kudos on the ending :)
Thanks so much, glad you liked it.

SPOILER
FULL EXPLANATION FOLLOWS:

The entire point is what did she see? That's really up to the viewer.
My take/intention is as follows. The movie has been available long enough so I'll deal...

She saw something horrible, she saw her true love murdered right in front of her. Now... I end the movie with the little girl seeing what happened.
Even though the final scene is still in black and white what she saw was a glimpse of a possible future, but it has yet to happen.

Maybe I should have had the final scene gradually change from the yellowish black and white to colour. Would that help?

This little girl still has to grow up and decide what to do. Does she avoid mister wrong? If so... will she ever meet her true love?

Right or wrong.... this was done completely intentionally and was discussed at great length. Most people won't get this movie and I knew this going in.
I knew it would not help me place in this festival. I could have really went to greater lengths to explain that she had a chance at changing what she saw but I really didn't want to.

I also wrote the parts about fate, the book and her Grand Mother on purpose. It was as if her future self was trying to tell her present self that if she travels down this path... things will not end well. Very ambiguous... I know.

It was just something I really wanted to do.

Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment.

I really do appreciate it.

If after reading the above you think I'm crazy and shouldn't have done that... let me know. I'll probably agree with you. :D

Cheers,

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 07:44 PM
BTW, mature Lisa says....

"If you saw something bad happening before it occurred... do you think you could stop it?"

That's my major tip of the hat.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 07:52 PM
Hey Michael,

I've been chewing on this one since I watched it on Wed. I like the concept. I actually like n8ture's take that she was seeing the future.

SNIP

Am I stupid about what was up with the box?

Very close... she was seeing a possible future. Still yet to be determined.
More like a warning.

I agree though, I should have cooked the character development a little more.

Thanks so much for the comments. I'm making notes... :thumbup:

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-16-2008, 07:56 PM
Thanks so much, glad you liked it.

SPOILER
FULL EXPLANATION FOLLOWS:

... Right or wrong.... this was done completely intentionally and was discussed at great length. Most people won't get this movie and I knew this going in.
....

I guess my question is why make it? I understand experimenting. But why invite me to dinner and speak Spanish to me (which I don't speak). If you don't want most people to at least know what's going on in your movie ... why go through all the trouble?

Don't get me wrong ... for one thing, I experimented in A Little MOuth to Feed ... what happens when intimate character portrait turns into camp horror halfway through ... it was a movie I'd like to see and I wanted to see how many would go with me though I knew not all would. But I spoke in a language the people I was communicating to could understand so at least I'd have a chance that they'd go out on a limb with me. i,e, you know what's going on.

Secondly, I'm a fan of Lynch, but I don't place the same kind of linear demands on that kind of film, the same way I didn't on say, Cinealma's film last fest.

But here you set up a logic cause and effect world and don't give us enough information to understand it.


... I also wrote the parts about fate, the book and her Grand Mother on purpose. It was as if her future self was trying to tell her present self that if she travels down this path... things will not end well. Very ambiguous... I know.

No I get that it was on purpose. As I said I got the thematic area you are exploring on the second viewing due to those lines.. But just barely and on a second viewing.

You went out of your way to put in thematic dialogue about fate etc. Why not plot? Usually one errs the other way ... make the plot explicit and leave the thematic material more open to interpretation.

There's a pretty easy way to make it clear, even without additional dialogue at the end or anything, that the little girl is in the present and the adult version of her self is in the future ... Right now ending with the girl seems like a mistake. But it would be pretty simple to have her watching throughout the movie and reacting to things and that wouldn't be dumbing it down it would just make it possible to understand. Like for example if she reacts to the bad guy forgetting his phone. And then we go back into the story. Then we know she's watching the whole thing.

And we are still left to ponder what should she do to avoid this in the future and all the rich things you want us to think about.

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-16-2008, 07:57 PM
Brilliant dolly transition from the little girl to her adult self at the top.
You're a pimp with the dolly.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 08:07 PM
I really do think that showing the girl reacting throughout would be showing my hand before the reveal but that's just me. But I do agree that what I did probably wasn't clear enough for most... although some people did get that little girl was seeing into the future. Why some assumed that she saw the future and THEN allowed it to happen is where I went wrong.

If I can clear that up without hitting people over the head I'm golden. I do want it to be a bit of a surprise at the end.

Maybe a simple additional line of dialogue from the little girl might work?

Something like...

I can't let this happen?

What do you think?

I am game for changing things. Let me know what you think.

Jack, I just wanted to add. This is what makes this forum so great! I REALLY appreciate this more than you know.

Cheers!

:beer:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 08:11 PM
Brilliant dolly transition from the little girl to her adult self at the top.
You're a pimp with the dolly.
Thanks!

That was shot on two different afternoons with different lighting and at different zooms lengths. At least I never measured... :)

Matched it up in post.
The girls were not in the house at the same time during these two shoots.

I didn't think I could pull off a shot like that really. I'm slowly learning as I go.
Sometimes you never know until you try. I definitely have to try more.

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-16-2008, 08:35 PM
BTW, mature Lisa says....

"If you saw something bad happening before it occurred... do you think you could stop it?"

That's my major tip of the hat.

But that's no tip of the hat at all. In fact it's a red herring because you have all the people in the future doing all the reasoning.

That line applies just as much in the Adults are the present as it does in the little girl is the present scenario.

If I saw in my tea leaves that you and I were going to explode while riding bumper cars, and then Dennis hopper kidnaps Scarlett Johansen and will kill her unless we ride bumper cars together .... and then right before we strap in I say to you "If you saw something bad happening before it occurred... do you think you could stop it?" ... that wouldn't imply that the past when I read the tea leaves and had the vision was actually the present, only that we hadn't blown up while riding bumper cars yet.

It doesn't remotely suggest that we are an imagened future that has not occurred. I'm saying it before we get in the cars ... just like she says it before the abusive guy comes home. Both she and the little girl are on a timeline at a point before the bad event occurs, so it is no clue at all. Now if the little girl said that to Nana at the end ... then it would make sense.


I really do think that showing the girl reacting throughout would be showing my hand before the reveal but that's just me.
Yeah you are probably right, especially if you want that to be your button.


But I do agree that what I did probably wasn't clear enough for most... although some people did get that little girl was seeing into the future. Why some assumed that she saw the future and THEN allowed it to happen is where I went wrong.

If I can clear that up without hitting people over the head I'm golden. I do want it to be a bit of a surprise at the end.

Maybe a simple additional line of dialogue from the little girl might work?

Something like...

I can't let this happen?
....
Yeah that's what I meant by fixing it with dialogue or having dialogue that clarified the plot as you do theme. That's the alternate and perhaps better route than showing her watching through out.

Maybe edit around (meaning out) the "can you stop something before it happens" in the adult future and give that line to the little girl at the end.

Or ... this could be sexy ... have them both say the same line. That way you have a repeat of your tip of the hat. And a nice parallelism between the two versions of her.

It's tough in a short. In a feature you could have three different points in the script where a crucial plot point or backstory is alluded to in non-explicit ways and the sum of them adds up to information that the audience member needs while putting the pieces together themselves. But in a short if you only get one shot, or its vague you can miss it altogether even if you are a fairly sophisticated audience member. And that can be a big problem in a piece like this which is in someways a puzzle piece (though we don't know it until the end) or a piece where the last bit is meant to recontextualize everything that went before.

Again in Unawakening, a true puzzle piece and set up as such from the beginning i.e., "what the hell is going on here, what is reality?" my re- edit envolcves repeating some lines in flash back and re editing some scenes so that these crucial one shot lines are placed better or even repeated.

Zim
02-16-2008, 08:47 PM
If your a kid and you see the future in a music box are you really going to understand what you saw years later is what you saw in the music box years ago? No.

Are you going to be on the look out for the checker headed guy? No. Could she even change the future if she wanted too?



When I think about this film it is almost like fate. It was her destiny.

Or maybe it was checker heads destiny. I think it was a good story that makes you think alittle.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 08:49 PM
"If you saw something bad happening before it occurred... do you think you could stop it?"

Well... that line was intended to hint that the little girl was seeing what was happening before it happened.

I agree with what you said though... it needs a lot more help in that department.

I think I'm going to go with additional dialogue from the girl at the end to try and clear things up. I'll come up with something simple... but clear.

I may try changing the colour scheme entirely for present and future as well.

I like the repeat of the same line though! That's a really great idea. Do you think that and some colour adjustment might be enough? Or does it need more?

I will be adding an entire scene that helps the relationship between her and the neighbour. It also shows more evidence of physical spousal abuse. It is all shot and edited. Just needs to be tweaked. It was removed due to time.

Thanks again so much.

Cheers,

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 08:52 PM
If your a kid and you see the future in a music box are you really going to understand what you saw years later is what you saw in the music box years ago? No.

Are you going to be on the look out for the checker headed guy? No. Could she even change the future if she wanted too?



When I think about this film it is almost like fate. It was her destiny.

Or maybe it was checker heads destiny. I think it was a good story that makes you think alittle.

Fate is definitely something I wanted people to mull over.

Zim, you commented on this film before this big discussion. What was unclear to you? What would you suggest adding?

Geoff_R
02-16-2008, 08:58 PM
okay, i figured out what made me not get it the first time around. Your explanation makes perfect sense, 'the real world' is the world of the little girl and she is seeing a potential future...what threw me off was that in this potential future, she hears the music box play and then we hear the voiceover of 'when you find true love, you'll hear the music', which came out as a memory/flashback; so now you've got a flashback in a potential future situation. That made me think the 'potential future' was in fact 'the real world' and then the little girl scenes were past events.

Geoff_R
02-16-2008, 09:00 PM
...still going...

Perhaps an idea. What if after that door shut, you went to the little girl afraid or suprised, etc, and then you hear the older woman say the bit about the 'hearing the music is when you find your true love'. I don't know, just an idea.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 09:01 PM
okay, i figured out what made me not get it the first time around. Your explanation makes perfect sense, 'the real world' is the world of the little girl and she is seeing a potential future...what threw me off was that in this potential future, she hears the music box play and then we hear the voiceover of 'when you find true love, you'll hear the music', which came out as a memory/flashback; so now you've got a flashback in a potential future situation. That made me think the 'potential future' was in fact 'the real world' and then the little girl scenes were past events.
I can see that... absolutely!

Would you suggest a change?

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-16-2008, 09:03 PM
If your a kid and you see the future in a music box are you really going to understand what you saw years later is what you saw in the music box years ago? No.

Are you going to be on the look out for the checker headed guy? No. .

... why not?

a kid can't understand one boyfriend coming home to discover her with another and killing him?

and if it's that pivotal of a moment, and you stare at the music box everyday as the next scene suggests ... again why not?

And I don't know if it matters that that's what would really happen or not ... the structure here as it is presented is:
girl sees bad thing happens,
ADULT IS STILL HAUNTED BY WHAT SHE SAW AS A LITTLE GIRL

... so under those givens set up within this story it's problematic.

The way the short is set up now suggests that she got some awful info as a child that she has carried with her to adulthood. Fast forward to adulthood and the fateful moment.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 09:04 PM
...still going...

Perhaps an idea. What if after that door shut, you went to the little girl afraid or suprised, etc, and then you hear the older woman say the bit about the 'hearing the music is when you find your true love'. I don't know, just an idea.

Ooh... that might really work. I think I'll try that.
Maybe start it on the closed door so we can still get her Grand Mother's reaction to the fact that she looks scared?

Not sure...

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 09:08 PM
... why not?

a kid can't understand one boyfriend coming home to discover her with another and killing him?

and if it's that pivotal of a moment, and you stare at the music box everyday as the next scene suggests ... again why not?

And I don't know if it matters that that's what would really happen or not ... the structure here as it is presented is:
girl sees bad thing happens,
ADULT IS STILL HAUNTED BY WHAT SHE SAW AS A LITTLE GIRL

... so under those givens set up within this story it's problematic.

The way the short is set up now suggests that she got some awful info as a child that she has carried with her to adulthood. Fast forward to adulthood and the fateful moment.
Although... she was obsessed with the music box as an adult because it would not play the music that she was promised to hear. She had not found love.

The entire thing was just being shown to her as it happened. The future has to play out before she (in the past) can see it and decide what to do.

These time things are a real pain in the ass. :D

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-16-2008, 09:08 PM
...

I may try changing the colour scheme entirely for present and future as well.

I like the repeat of the same line though! That's a really great idea. Do you think that and some colour adjustment might be enough? Or does it need more? ...

yeah I think both of those things could work ... another thing ... it would be great if you could bookend the piece with another time traveling dolly shot to go back to the little girl.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-16-2008, 09:10 PM
yeah I think both of those things could work ... another thing ... it would be great if you could bookend the piece with another time traveling dolly shot to go back to the little girl.That would be good. I really can't get the location back though.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-17-2008, 06:12 AM
It was kind of late last night (here) when we were discussing this.

I've since slept on things and have decided that I will probably add a touch of dialogue at the end and do some different CC throughout. Other than that I probably won't change much more. Aside from adding the stuff I had to cut out due to time.

Thanks again for all the advice! Well done guys...

Mike

Zim
02-17-2008, 07:49 AM
I wouldn't change much. Maybe to avoid confusion don't go back to the little girl seeing something bad happen in the music box. I was more taken in by the husband coming back. Also that the music started when she found love. She just found her true love at the wrong time!!

I guess I'm one of those people who think you can't change the future even if you saw it somehow. But I think that is one of the things that makes your film good.

Like you said about "No Country For Old Men" Everyone I know was talking about it, "What do you think happened" Lots of ideas. That isn't a bad thing.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-17-2008, 10:24 AM
I wouldn't change much. Maybe to avoid confusion don't go back to the little girl seeing something bad happen in the music box. I was more taken in by the husband coming back. Also that the music started when she found love. She just found her true love at the wrong time!!

I guess I'm one of those people who think you can't change the future even if you saw it somehow. But I think that is one of the things that makes your film good.

Like you said about "No Country For Old Men" Everyone I know was talking about it, "What do you think happened" Lots of ideas. That isn't a bad thing.
Well put.

Glad you seemed to really enjoy it and think about it. I'm also glad that this movie created some thought provoking discussion.
That was definitely my intention.

Cheers!
:beer:

Marlon Ladd
02-17-2008, 10:55 AM
MIKE!! I've been trying to download the movie since late last night and it won't work! I got to watching the first 2 minutes and then it stopped. I'm trying to download it again, but it's taking like 10 minutes. It may be taking longer, because I have all the other files downloaded. Anyway, I'll check back. Hope it works this time.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-17-2008, 10:57 AM
This is not the first time...
Try this direct link.

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/movies/michael_anthony_horrigan_the_music_box!.mov (http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/movies/michael_anthony_horrigan_the_music_box%21.mov)

Your mailbox is full.

Thanks,

Robbie Comeau
02-17-2008, 11:06 AM
Just watched it again Kyser.

Nice full res :)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-17-2008, 11:08 AM
Just watched it again Kyser.

Nice full res :)

Thanks, that's not full res though...

Far from it actually. :)
It is the exact same copy I sent into the Fest.
800 x 385

Marlon Ladd
02-17-2008, 11:21 AM
Finally! I was able to watch! That was really good and Iím not just saying that cz you my boy. That was a really good, compelling story. I thought the acting was right on and real. The girl did a great job and when she and the guy kissed, you felt it and believed in her chance to maybe get out of the situation she was in and you so wanted that for her. I donít know what else to say, really. Oh, you always have some cool dolly shots too.

I haven't read all the posts, but a few. I don't know what any of the confusion is. To me, she saw something in the music box, like maybe her life would end some kind of way and she didn't really know how it would end and therefore didn't really know how to stop it. She was in a situation where she didn't know how to get out of it and was very afraid, but saw a possible chance with the guy from next door.

Maybe I'm just crazy, but I didn't have any ?s at the end of it. I like the way it ended, with us not really knowing for sure what happened.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-17-2008, 11:41 AM
Finally! I was able to watch! That was really good and I’m not just saying that cz you my boy. That was a really good, compelling story. I thought the acting was right on and real. The girl did a great job and when she and the guy kissed, you felt it and believed in her chance to maybe get out of the situation she was in and you so wanted that for her. I don’t know what else to say, really. Oh, you always have some cool dolly shots too.

I haven't read all the posts, but a few. I don't know what any of the confusion is. To me, she saw something in the music box, like maybe her life would end some kind of way and she didn't really know how it would end and therefore didn't really know how to stop it. She was in a situation where she didn't know how to get out of it and was very afraid, but saw a possible chance with the guy from next door.

Maybe I'm just crazy, but I didn't have any ?s at the end of it. I like the way it ended, with us not really knowing for sure what happened.I'm happy that you enjoyed it. It seems like I'm getting a better response lately. :)
The ending was never really supposed to be one thing or the other. It's what the viewer brings to the table that helps to complete it for that individual.

Some people thought that maybe the abusive BF died. Some thought that she could now change what she just saw. Some believe that you can't change Fate and whatever happened in that room is destined to repeat itself. These are all possibilities that I thought about while making this.

Glad you liked the kiss. There were not too many in this fest and it was my first time shooting and directing such a scene. :)

Glad you liked the dolly work as well. It's homemade.

Which link did you use? The one I posted or the DVX link?

Glad you liked it!

Cheers,

Mike

Blaine
02-17-2008, 11:53 AM
Michael, I watched this a while ago and have had to ruminate on it for some time. I've had to watch it four times to coalesce my thoughts regarding it.

I have forced myself not to read the prior reviews, so this wouldn't be colored by them. As soon as I'm though with the review I'm going to read through it and see if you've addressed them already so if these have already been answered, feel free to ignore all I'm about to say except: I enjoyed your film.

I like the story. I thought you did a good job bringing it to the screen.

You made a couple of choices I found to be confusing, though. Opening with the sepia-type look led me to believe that we were looking into the past. Great dolly transition from past to present. Now we have some color, leading me to believe we are looking at the "real" world...the present. But then you go to B&W??? Then I began to think that only the Music Box was in color...until I saw the purple candles and green leaves at the table. Then the Music Box was B&W. This felt a bit inconsistent to me and I found it a bit distracting.

Her dialogue also reinforces that we are in the present letting us know that she saw this as a child in the Music Box. So now, I'm not sure what I'm looking at...(Mature Lisa) present remembering the past OR (Young Lisa) present looking into the furture. I personally have come to the decision (based on the dialogue and color palette) that it's the former. That begs the question, if she knew what was going to happen why didn't she try to change her destiny? Maybe it is too large a question for the scope of this movie but the question is still there for me.

It would be so much easier for me to think that Young Lisa was seeing her future but the sepia-type tones really shout out "the past."

I'm still scratching my head over this one. It was still an interesting, thought provoking story which I enjoyed watching. I just don't feel I have quite enough information to come to a definite conclusion.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-17-2008, 12:06 PM
Michael, I watched this a while ago and have had to ruminate on it for some time. I've had to watch it four times to coalesce my thoughts regarding it.

I have forced myself not to read the prior reviews, so this wouldn't be colored by them. As soon as I'm though with the review I'm going to read through it and see if you've addressed them already so if these have already been answered, feel free to ignore all I'm about to say except: I enjoyed your film.

I like the story. I thought you did a good job bringing it to the screen.

You made a couple of choices I found to be confusing, though. Opening with the sepia-type look led me to believe that we were looking into the past. Great dolly transition from past to present. Now we have some color, leading me to believe we are looking at the "real" world...the present. But then you go to B&W??? Then I began to think that only the Music Box was in color...until I saw the purple candles and green leaves at the table. Then the Music Box was B&W. This felt a bit inconsistent to be and I found it a bit distracting.

Her dialogue also reinforces that we are in the present letting us know that she saw this as a child in the Music Box. So now, I'm not sure what I'm looking at...(Mature Lisa) present remembering the past OR (Young Lisa) present looking into the furture. I personally have come to the decision (based on the dialogue and color palette) that it's the former. That begs the question, if she knew what was going to happen why didn't she try to change her destiny? Maybe it is too large a question for the scope of this movie but the question is still there for me.

It would be so much easier for me to think that Young Lisa was seeing her future but the sepia-type tones really shout out "the past."

I'm still scratching my head over this one. It was still an interesting, thought provoking story which I enjoyed watching. I just don't feel I have quite enough information to come to a definite conclusion.Hell of a review, Blaine! Really well stated.

The colour choices are something that I'm going to have to work on.
As for the present and past...

It's almost as if Mature Lisa is warning Young Lisa... But how can she do this if she has yet to live through it? Is their some kind of time-loop going on and is she destined to live this Fate over and over again.

Too much to tell in a 5 minute short.

This was intended for the viewer to come up with their own realization and I've now read many different outcomes thanks to the Members here.

Mature Lisa states...
"If you saw something bad happening before it occurred... do you think you could stop it?"

That was definitely on purpose and to suggest that Young Lisa is watching this moment. What happens after that is up to you.

I will work on the colour choices though. They are a bit confusing.

Thanks for watching and critiquing so well! You were very clear and precise.

Cheers!

Mike

John LaBonney
02-17-2008, 06:00 PM
Mike and I discussed leaving certain elements of the film open to interpretation. I think he got pretty much what he was hoping for in terms of a final product; exactly what he wanted to leave the viewer questioning (present-past, what does she see, if she sees her future, does she avoid it, or does she just see "something" bad, and her future is unavoidable?) are the parts that people are asking about. This was tougher than you might think to with as a writer. Having no clear answer to these issues turned out to be harder to write than if it was all plain.

I think that this is a big leap in terms of cinematography for Mike over his last two dvxuser fest entries. I saw an earlier cut of the film and this cut is a massive improvement over that in my opinion. When I saw the rough cut, I didn't think it would come out this good. I was glad to be a part of this one.

My wife (who is not a film geek like us) says this is her favorite LoveFest film.

Super score--nice work Herman!

Arrik
02-17-2008, 07:44 PM
Sup Michael,

Great film you have here. Like I said about your poster, I love the look of the film. I think the color is perfect for the film. I was a little "wha?" when I saw the end, and I think it opened up a bunch of "why didnts" but reading yours and john's responses regarding it being "open to interpretation" I can see your intention.

The way I saw it was, even though she knew it was going to happen she would rather face the consequences and commit, rather than continue living unhappily (though in that sense, it kinda sucks for the unsuspecting dude she likes). But hey, we dont know if that dude kicked the funny-hair'd guy's @$$, right? :)

Anyway, I think had you more time, you wouldve developed an even better version of this. Still, I think it holds up well.

Congrats. Your poster still rules.

Robert Eldon
02-17-2008, 09:10 PM
The Music Box
Great opening title sequence. Nice opening shot. I really like the beginning and the voices of the child and her grandmother. It’s like, OK, I’m ready for a story. The transition from young girl to older works incredibly well.

When I first saw the dude in bed, I thought, I don’t like this guy. Then, the juxtaposition of the music and his talking (yelling) at her, made me really not like him. So, good character building here, even if it is a character that I don’t like.

The guy friend and Lisa getting together and then making out wasn’t believable for me.

My favorite shot is near the end when the bad boyfriend enters to find them kissing and the look on her face. I like the way that shot was composed.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-17-2008, 09:16 PM
Mike and I discussed leaving certain elements of the film open to interpretation. I think he got pretty much what he was hoping for in terms of a final product; exactly what he wanted to leave the viewer questioning (present-past, what does she see, if she sees her future, does she avoid it, or does she just see "something" bad, and her future is unavoidable?) are the parts that people are asking about. This was tougher than you might think to with as a writer. Having no clear answer to these issues turned out to be harder to write than if it was all plain.

I think that this is a big leap in terms of cinematography for Mike over his last two dvxuser fest entries. I saw an earlier cut of the film and this cut is a massive improvement over that in my opinion. When I saw the rough cut, I didn't think it would come out this good. I was glad to be a part of this one.

My wife (who is not a film geek like us) says this is her favorite LoveFest film.

Super score--nice work Herman!
Thanks, John. That first cut was a little rough. :)
Glad your wife liked it as well.

Oh... and Herman does rock the Casbah! :thumbup:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-17-2008, 09:18 PM
Sup Michael,

Great film you have here. Like I said about your poster, I love the look of the film. I think the color is perfect for the film. I was a little "wha?" when I saw the end, and I think it opened up a bunch of "why didnts" but reading yours and john's responses regarding it being "open to interpretation" I can see your intention.

The way I saw it was, even though she knew it was going to happen she would rather face the consequences and commit, rather than continue living unhappily (though in that sense, it kinda sucks for the unsuspecting dude she likes). But hey, we dont know if that dude kicked the funny-hair'd guy's @$$, right? :)

Anyway, I think had you more time, you wouldve developed an even better version of this. Still, I think it holds up well.

Congrats. Your poster still rules.
Thanks! Glad you liked it... and the poster! :)
I'm also glad that you saw it as intended.

Cheers!



The Music Box
Great opening title sequence. Nice opening shot. I really like the beginning and the voices of the child and her grandmother. It’s like, OK, I’m ready for a story. The transition from young girl to older works incredibly well.

When I first saw the dude in bed, I thought, I don’t like this guy. Then, the juxtaposition of the music and his talking (yelling) at her, made me really not like him. So, good character building here, even if it is a character that I don’t like.

The guy friend and Lisa getting together and then making out wasn’t believable for me.

My favorite shot is near the end when the bad boyfriend enters to find them kissing and the look on her face. I like the way that shot was composed.

Some of my favourite shots as well! Glad you got into some of the characters.
There was a lot more of her developing relationship with the neighbour but it had to hit the cutting room floor due to time.

Cheers!

kurtmo
02-18-2008, 04:13 AM
I liked your dolly shots in this film. I thought your dialog was very natural. And the music worked well. Nice production!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-18-2008, 06:44 AM
I liked your dolly shots in this film. I thought your dialog was very natural. And the music worked well. Nice production!Thanks!

It's nice to see so many filmmakers making comments.

Cheers,

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-18-2008, 05:16 PM
My favorite shot is near the end when the bad boyfriend enters to find them kissing and the look on her face. I like the way that shot was composed.

I remember telling her.... when he comes in I'm going to shout out your name when I want you to react. The first time I did it... I think I scared the crap out of her. :D

Marlon Ladd
02-18-2008, 07:57 PM
Glad you liked the dolly work as well. It's homemade.

Which link did you use? The one I posted or the DVX link?

Glad you liked it!

Cheers,

Mike

I used the original. It worked the second time. Homemade dolly?! Make me one! LOL.

mentatDUKE
02-18-2008, 10:01 PM
I just watched this. So many movies. I feel bad for getting to some of these so late. Ok, enough excuses.

Micheal. This movie was AMAZING. I was captivated the entire time. It was riveting. I'm reading some of the early posts in this thread as you're worried about casting. All I can say is that this film was cast perfectly.

The comical absurdity mixed with uncontrolled menace of the abusive boyfriend.

The tender gentleness and empathy of the friend with the book.

The meekness and lucid expressiveness of the lead actress.

Dead on.

You and John came up with a really great story. Very fairytale-like, but contemporary also.

Your moving camera was flawless and very motivated. A joy to watch as it glided across each scene.

I think the acting was really great. Don't let me forget the young girl and the Grandma. You guys created a highly believable universe. The neandrethal boyfriend exudes danger and I definitely feared for the characters. He got the drop on them in the middle of true love. No fair!

Great film!

I officially have no idea how I'm going to vote in this fest. Too much great material.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-19-2008, 05:57 AM
I just watched this. So many movies. I feel bad for getting to some of these so late. Ok, enough excuses.

Micheal. This movie was AMAZING. I was captivated the entire time. It was riveting. I'm reading some of the early posts in this thread as you're worried about casting. All I can say is that this film was cast perfectly.

The comical absurdity mixed with uncontrolled menace of the abusive boyfriend.

The tender gentleness and empathy of the friend with the book.

The meekness and lucid expressiveness of the lead actress.

Dead on.

You and John came up with a really great story. Very fairytale-like, but contemporary also.

Your moving camera was flawless and very motivated. A joy to watch as it glided across each scene.

I think the acting was really great. Don't let me forget the young girl and the Grandma. You guys created a highly believable universe. The neandrethal boyfriend exudes danger and I definitely feared for the characters. He got the drop on them in the middle of true love. No fair!

Great film!

I officially have no idea how I'm going to vote in this fest. Too much great material.
Wow! I'm glad that you really fell into the story. Sounds like you got into it.
Thanks for the descriptive and thoughtful critique.

I think a lot of credit should go out to the cast. They all did well and nobody tried to steal the show. They got into their parts and took Direction extremely well.

PS: I may quote you on a few of your praises.
That and JDS' "You're a pimp with the dolly"

:D

Cheers :thumbup:

Shawn Philip Nelson
02-19-2008, 09:36 PM
Interesting, I'm not sure how I feel about it because I was a bit confused. The music box seemed a bit hoky.

Your lead actor (the African-American) was very good, reminded me of Orlando Jones in a good way.

Oh, what was up with the masonic shots? The pyramid with the seeing eye seemed out of place.

Ted Arabian
02-20-2008, 07:01 AM
Hey Mike, just watched you film again! Really great work here.

The story is so engaging. I feel like the 6 minutes just slip by so quickly!

There are some really lovely shots and carefully executed camera moves. Some of those dolly shots are just perfect!

This is really a wonderful fairy-tale of a film.

Congrats again and good luck in the voting!

Best,

Ted

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-20-2008, 11:23 AM
Your lead actor (the African-American) was very good, reminded me of Orlando Jones in a good way.
I'll pass that on to him.

Thanks for watching.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-20-2008, 11:27 AM
Hey Mike, just watched you film again! Really great work here.

The story is so engaging. I feel like the 6 minutes just slip by so quickly!

There are some really lovely shots and carefully executed camera moves. Some of those dolly shots are just perfect!

This is really a wonderful fairy-tale of a film.

Congrats again and good luck in the voting!

Best,

Ted
Well, that could be because the movie is actually under 5 minutes. :D
Not counting the credits and such.

Glad you liked it the second time around. I think this is a movie that more can be gained from after subsequent views.

:beer:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-21-2008, 05:45 AM
I used the original. It worked the second time. Homemade dolly?! Make me one! LOL.I'm actually going to post some pictures of it later...

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-21-2008, 05:55 AM
Here are a couple of pics.
I have different length pipes for different circumstances/areas. One set is about 14' long.

Here is the dolly itself.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1203601975.jpg


And here it is in action... (while shooting Robin the Spy)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1203602045.jpg

Ted Arabian
02-21-2008, 06:30 AM
And here it is in action... (while shooting Robin the Spy)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23237/1203602045.jpg

Mike, I love this photo! So funny to see that guy couching in the pew next to your actor.

Nice dolly. I HAVE to make on of these for myself!!!

On a different note... Robin the Spy! Whoot! What a fun film that was!!!

Marlon Ladd
02-21-2008, 07:37 AM
Okay, Mike. You got plywood and then what kind of wheels are those and where did you buy them? I've been wanting to make a DIY dolly forever, but I'm not so great at making things. . .pretty good at breaking them though! LOL.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-21-2008, 08:43 AM
Mike, I love this photo! So funny to see that guy couching in the pew next to your actor.

Nice dolly. I HAVE to make on of these for myself!!!

On a different note... Robin the Spy! Whoot! What a fun film that was!!!Thanks. That was a fun one to make. John LaBonney wrote that one. I wish I knew what I know now while making that one.

Cheers,

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-21-2008, 08:46 AM
Okay, Mike. You got plywood and then what kind of wheels are those and where did you buy them? I've been wanting to make a DIY dolly forever, but I'm not so great at making things. . .pretty good at breaking them though! LOL.Actually, it's oak. Very heavy... :)
The wheels are just skateboard wheels. You can buy them at a lot of sporting good stores.

Cheers!

deedive
02-21-2008, 02:59 PM
great film, dude!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-21-2008, 05:38 PM
great film, dude!
Thanks! I'm a big fan of your work so I really appreciate the nice comment.
Hope to see you in the next fest!

Cheers,

Mike

Edgen
02-21-2008, 10:22 PM
Mike.. I dug your film man. Kudos!

The little girl could have been casted different or vice versa. I couldn't really see either one being remotely related. I think you could have gotten away without showing the last flashback and the entry would have been just as strong.

Looking forward to your next entry. :)

/j

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-22-2008, 05:51 AM
Thanks for dropping by, Justin!
Glad you liked it!!

That's funny, you're the first to say that about the little girl (Keven). I couldn't pass her up. I auditioned >20 children and she was the only one to impress me.

Which last flashback are you talking about? The girl reacting? That may actually be the present. Hehehe... I love doing that. :D

Cheers,

Mike

PS- My best to you and your new arrival. :thumbup:

Thanks again for taking a look.

Luis Caffesse
02-22-2008, 09:22 AM
Mike - nice job.
I haven't read the other comments so these are solely my impressions of your piece.

I love the story you have going on here.
A simple story with complex ramifications - perfect choice for a 6 minute film.

I really like that you don't show us what happens in the room after the door is shut.
To do so would have killed the story in my opinion, so good choice there.

Shotwise it was well contructed - good use of close ups, high and low angle, etc.
It moved well and didn't get visually disorienting or boring.

My only critique would be in the contruction of the cut backs to the little girl.
There are two things there that I think would have made the story a lot stronger for me - first, I woudl have liked to have heard from the woman that the music will play when she finds true love much earlier in the piece. That would have given us something to anticipate, and it woudl have made the moment the music starts playing much more powerful. Instead, right now we're givin the information AS the music starts playing - which to me is the equivalent of showing something and then telling me why it's important. That kind of robs it of its dramatic weight. If I knew the implications of the music before I heard it...then when it started playing I would have had more of a "oh wow, the music is playing!" reaction - which is what I think you were going for. Instead my reaction was more like "Oh, so that's why the music is playing." Also, having the voiceover come in as the music is playing took me out of the scene a bit, because suddenly I'm having to pay attention to that audio instead of being engaged in the scene we're watching.

The second bit I was going to mention was the cut at the end - honestly I would have loved to see this film end when the bedroom door shuts. The ending felt unnecessary - and I feel that the information could have been given in another way earlier in the story. A sense of foreboding was already in the air - so I'm not sure its necessary to show us that the girl saw something specific in the music box. But that may just be me.

Lastly - the character of her boyfriend seemed a bit over the top to me.
Had he been toned down even a bit I think I woudl have found him more engaging - from the first moment he opened his mouth I thought "well this isn't going to end well." Toning him down would have made the story more natural and believable to me - and would not have given me such a strong indicator as to where things were heading.

That said - I really enjoyed his reaction in the final scene....when he takes the knife up to his forehead for a moment and then kind of rolls his eyes to the sky...partly frustrated, angry...and almost a tad annoyed. That was great - and that shot was really well constructed, blocked and composed (which goes back to why I would have loved for you to end the film there).

Overall - great work, great story.
I hope you keep this streak up and enter the next fest.
:thumbsup:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-22-2008, 10:25 AM
Thanks, Luis.
Glad you liked it!

I think if I changed the two things you mentioned there wouldn't be much left to the movie. There would be no surprise as to what the music was all about. In fact, it would be pretty predictable as to when it was going to play. I do agree that I could show the flashback about it a little sooner though.

As for the ending... that's my thing. :)
I want people to wonder... did this happen? Can she change this? Is it Fate?
Without the girl at the end there is no way the audience would walk away with those questions.

I'm glad that you seemed to enjoy it so much. Especially that moment outside the bedroom door. We worked on that for a bit.

Great critique!

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-23-2008, 06:39 AM
The second bit I was going to mention was the cut at the end - honestly I would have loved to see this film end when the bedroom door shuts. The ending felt unnecessary - and I feel that the information could have been given in another way earlier in the story. A sense of foreboding was already in the air - so I'm not sure its necessary to show us that the girl saw something specific in the music box. But that may just be me.
:thumbsup:

Thanks. I thought about this while editing, believe me. If I ended the movie there then the story changes completely. It wasn't really the story that I wanted to tell. Thanks though.



Overall - great work, great story.
I hope you keep this streak up and enter the next fest.
:thumbsup:

Thanks again! :thumbup:

I'm really happy that this one has created some interest and great discussion.

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-23-2008, 10:27 PM
Oh, what was up with the masonic shots? The pyramid with the seeing eye seemed out of place.I missed this.

Actually, it was done entirely on purpose. What is the "eye within a triangle" generally known as?

It is known as the "All-Seeing Eye" or the "Eye of God"
The little girl was allowed to see her future (possible or destined) via this gateway.

I'm surprised that nobody else caught that.

Cheers!

Mike

sanzrigel
02-24-2008, 09:21 AM
This is a really nice piece - with an interesting ending that makes you look at everything else you've seen in the movie in a different light. Really cool. Technically - the dolly work throughout is beautiful. It has a light, fluid touch to it that really compliments the movie. I think my favorite part is the actor, Daniel Lavigne. The guy was incredible in this. So genuine.

Other than that, I thought the abusive boyfriend was really funny - only problem is I wasn't sure if I was supposed to find him funny. There's a fine line between funny and dramatic...

All in all, great movie.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-24-2008, 11:34 AM
This is a really nice piece - with an interesting ending that makes you look at everything else you've seen in the movie in a different light. Really cool. Technically - the dolly work throughout is beautiful. It has a light, fluid touch to it that really compliments the movie. I think my favorite part is the actor, Daniel Lavigne. The guy was incredible in this. So genuine.

Other than that, I thought the abusive boyfriend was really funny - only problem is I wasn't sure if I was supposed to find him funny. There's a fine line between funny and dramatic...

All in all, great movie.
Thanks! Glad you liked it so much.
This part made my day...
"This is a really nice piece - with an interesting ending that makes you look at everything else you've seen in the movie in a different light. Really cool."

I was really hoping that would come across. Thanks!

I'll pass the acting comments along. Daniel really was fantastic. And yes, the BF was supposed to be slightly amusing at times, but not at the end.
Especially funny during the mirror scene though. :D

Thanks again for all the comments! I love my homemade dolly. :thumbup:

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-24-2008, 05:06 PM
Well, I just wanted to take a minute before the Oscars start to thank everyone who dropped in to comment.
It's very difficult to get an understanding for your work without an intelligent viewing audience and their input.

I really appreciate all the comments and critiques!

Good luck to everyone in the voting!

Go "No Country for Old Men"! :D

Cheers,

Mike

Marlon Ladd
02-24-2008, 06:22 PM
Mike, did you like "No Country For Old Men?" I liked the directing and the acting in the scenes, but the story SUCKED! Ooops, I meant the story had some holes in it and some questionable decisions. LOL.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-24-2008, 06:28 PM
Loved it!

What holes? It can all be explained with what they have shown us.
Check out the thread in the film discussion forum and we can chat. :D

Brian Parker
02-24-2008, 09:48 PM
Hey really liked your film. Loved the transition shot from young Lisa to older Lisa. Good acting throughout (the boyfriend kinda reminded me of Vinnie Jones) and I liked your CC. Good short and great use of the set time limit. The pacing was well done. Simple set up and execution in a good way. Very good film.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-25-2008, 05:47 AM
Hey really liked your film. Loved the transition shot from young Lisa to older Lisa. Good acting throughout (the boyfriend kinda reminded me of Vinnie Jones) and I liked your CC. Good short and great use of the set time limit. The pacing was well done. Simple set up and execution in a good way. Very good film.
Thanks, man! Glad you liked it! Thanks for taking the time to comment on all the movies. I actually worked this into a 5 minute time limit. I had extra scenes and more character development but they put me closer to 7 minutes.
Hope you had time to vote. :D


Cheers,

Mike

Marlon Ladd
02-25-2008, 11:53 AM
Loved it!

What holes? It can all be explained with what they have shown us.
Check out the thread in the film discussion forum and we can chat. :D
Okay, I'll check it out in a few.