View Full Version : Magic Bullet versus DVFilmmaker
Taylor Moore
03-14-2004, 09:09 PM
Which one is better....for converting 60i to 24p.
Thanx
Elvis
03-14-2004, 09:39 PM
I've seen both in post. Magic bullet took forever.The editor I was working with bought a second Mac just for rendering. Taylor make sure you check out the rendering time. The 6 minute short took like 28 hours in Magic Bullet. These were the programs I was looking at till the DVX100 came out. Thank GOD!!! 8)
Zoomforce
03-14-2004, 10:00 PM
yes.. magic bullet can make it look better via its look suite (adds cinegamma effect etc)... but for straight conversion they are pretty comparible and dvfilmaker is alot cheaper.
With magic bullet/look suite to convert 1 tape of 60i to DVX looking footage it takes about 2 weeks straight of continuous rendertime.
DVX100Shooter
03-15-2004, 04:52 PM
Whoaaaa! Are you serious? Even if you using a fast computer like a G5 with lots of RAM?
Taylor Moore
03-16-2004, 06:37 PM
That sure changes things...
since the majoity of this project was shot 60i, maybe I will convert the 24p selects to 60i....
Elvis
03-18-2004, 09:10 AM
Taylor I was told DVfilmmaker was a lot faster, try some test footage with it. And let us know. thanks!
PrestonH
03-18-2004, 12:52 PM
I downloaded the DVFilm demo awhile back and tested it on a clip. Although the machine is not lightning fast (dual proc), it still seemed painfully slow to me.
For DVFilm Maker's 24P film-motion conversion you should be able to process about 15 minutes of video in one hour with a G5. If it's running much slower than that you need to download a fresh demo version from our website at dvfilm.com/maker, or if you own a license, from dvfilm.com/update.
I think MB and CineMotion can only do a few minutes at most in that same time period, but I might be wrong about that.
Taylor Moore
04-12-2004, 12:27 PM
Marcus, Thanx for checking in on this nice to know people like you are lurking in the BG...to help out.
disjecta
05-18-2004, 09:21 AM
I'm a little late on a reply for this thread but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway.
I have used both programs extensively and, in my opinion, Magic Bullet wins hands down. In fact, as far as the 24fps simulation is concerned, DVFilm is not even in the same league. I spent almost 3 years of my life trying to make 60i footage look like film and I was finally happy with Magic Bullet.
Of course all that has changed now that I own a DVX100a ;)
I still use Magic Bullet to do an artifact cleanup, apply "looks", and also use the optical dissolves which are just beautiful and worth the price of the software alone. There is also a plugin that applies a NTSC color safe palette to your finished edit. The changes it makes are almost undetectable but it's nice to know that all of your colors are within TV limits.
Download the demo first and try it. The render times are very long but I usually do a batch render overnight or whenever I am not working on the computer. I find it more efficient to choose the subclips I will be using for my edit and process those. When they are rendered, you are working with nice clean clips...
Anyway I would highly recommend it.