View Full Version : LoveFest Rules
Barry_S
11-15-2007, 07:09 PM
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/913/1195185574.jpg
Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come.
---Matt Groening
Love. Who hasn't made a fool of themselves for love? In the entire universe, nothing is more complex than a human being and no emotion is more complex than love. Hate? Hate is simple and one-dimensional. Love is anything but simple. It's messy, complex, and complicated--shifting like sand under our feet.
Rules
The festival category is a short film with the theme of LOVE. Films can be in any genre as long as the theme is love. If you have any questions about whether your film conforms to the theme please ask me.
All films must be no longer than 6 (six) minutes total INCLUDING CREDITS. The following format must be followed. Film Title (any format), body of film, maximum of 15 seconds of credits (which must clearly acknowledge dvxuser.com).
REQUIRED ELEMENT: All films must include a camera in at least one scene.
All cameras are eligible to participate and for prizes.
Content must be "R" rated or lower.
No copyright violations, you *must* use licensed or royalty-free music
All filmmakers agree to grant DVXuser.com and its agents non-exclusive rights for their films to appear on a DVD or for DVXuser-sanctioned public screenings. Deliverables must be formatted as widescreen 16:9 or 2:35 aspect ratio and provided as an h.264 compressed file (either .mov or .mp4). with a maximum size of 50 MB. Additional details will be released closer to the entry deadline.
Contest open to every country and films may be in any language. Non-English films must have English subtitles.
All films must be made between November 12, 2007 and February 10, 2008 and must not have been publicly screened prior to entry. The entry deadline is 12:00 midnight Pacific Time on Sunday, February 10, 2008 and no films or revisions to films will be accepted after this date. Entry instructions will be posted closer to the deadline.
Films may only be promoted on DVXuser.com before screening and no actual footage from films may be screened prior to the DVXuser screening. No promotion on external web sites is allowed until after the screening has been completed.
Films may be entered in other festivals as long as they aren’t screened prior to February 14, 2008.
Users may enter their film anonymously, but must clear this with me before they post their film thread in the this forum.
All films will be prescreened by DVXFest staff for compliance with festival rules.
No entry fee
Prizes will be announced
To enter, just submit your film by the deadline. A link for a special upload page will be posted a few days before the deadline.
Drew Ott
11-15-2007, 07:21 PM
Awesome. I can't wait.
edit- Lovefest rules!
I couldn't resist.
double edit - pun definitely intended.
Mark Harris
11-15-2007, 07:24 PM
Love. Who hasn't made a fool of themselves for love? In the entire universe, nothing is more complex than a human being and no emotion is more complex than love. Hate? Hate is simple and one-dimensional. Love is anything but simple. It's messy, complex, and complicated--shifting like sand under our feet.
I think I just fell in love with Barry_S.
Don't get jealous, Jack.
Shane Jackson
11-15-2007, 08:34 PM
Humm... A man falls in love with the delivery driver when she brings him his Canon 40D he ordered from Dell.....
:)
Jay Rodriguez
11-15-2007, 08:44 PM
man, I'm in!
FilmBoy77
11-15-2007, 09:28 PM
cool. i'm in on this one definitely.
mjjason
11-15-2007, 10:44 PM
Love makes you crazy, hate makes you impotent. Somewhere in the middle we can survive. :)
snodart
11-15-2007, 11:16 PM
I'm sure this will be asked, but I'll go ahead and ask it now:
Are we limited to love as in romantic love... between lovers, or will themes dealing with love in general be acceptable as well (between two brothers for example)?
mikkowilson
11-16-2007, 12:17 AM
No were is romance an requirement. Any form of Love as the theme is game.
- Mikko
Jack Daniel Stanley
11-16-2007, 12:58 AM
man, I'm in!
heh heh
Jay's got the fest bug now.
There is no cure.
Arrik
11-16-2007, 12:59 AM
May be a dumb question regarding the required element. By camera do you mean still camera, video camera or does it matter?
mikkowilson
11-16-2007, 01:06 AM
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+camera
- Mikko
Zak Forsman
11-16-2007, 01:12 AM
May be a dumb question regarding the required element. By camera do you mean still camera, video camera or does it matter?a "camera" is defined as a device for capturing visual images in the form of photographs, motion picture film, or video signals.
Rowlander
11-16-2007, 03:41 AM
The film does not have to be shot on a DVX or HVX, right? Free choice of camcorder? Just making sure.
Ki-Ki
11-16-2007, 04:12 AM
Users may enter their film anonymously, but must clear this with me before they post their film thread in the this forum.
Just to make you hate me more. =]
Barry_S
11-16-2007, 05:14 AM
I'm sure this will be asked, but I'll go ahead and ask it now:
Are we limited to love as in romantic love... between lovers, or will themes dealing with love in general be acceptable as well (between two brothers for example)?
Any kind of love is fine, but there's a limit to how far you can stretch the theme. Familial love? Definitely. A zombie's love for human flesh--don't make us DQ you. :)
Any camera is fine.
As to how far we can strech the theme, what about the love between a zombie and a vampire for example?
Mark Harris
11-16-2007, 07:37 AM
What about the love that dare not speak its name?
The love between mutes, of course...
Any kind of love is fine, but there's a limit to how far you can stretch the theme. Familial love? Definitely. A zombie's love for human flesh--don't make us DQ you. :)
Any camera is fine.
Seriously not trying to be facetious here, just looking for clarification before I settle on any idea: what about a guy's love for peanuts? A girl's love for Beethoven's music?
Not that those are strong contenders for a storyline or anything, I just want to find the boundaries in which I need to brainstorm :)
mjjason
11-16-2007, 12:06 PM
Can we submit more than 1 film?
I am doing my best to try and get even just one film together but was just wondering if by some miracle I can get two done would that be allowed.
Has anyone ever submitted two films in the same fest?
snodart
11-16-2007, 01:10 PM
Any kind of love is fine, but there's a limit to how far you can stretch the theme. Familial love? Definitely. A zombie's love for human flesh--don't make us DQ you. :)
Sounds good. Thanks Barry.
Jason Ramsey
11-16-2007, 01:18 PM
Yes, you can submit two films. But, I would concentrate on just one first :)
Later,
Jason
Barry_S
11-16-2007, 02:22 PM
I'll put up some clarifications on the theme this weekend, but love of inanimate objects is out.
Jay Rodriguez
11-16-2007, 02:37 PM
heh heh
Jay's got the fest bug now.
There is no cure.
I know, the itch is there. This time I need to get good actors who also believe in sticking with a project... lol
Mark Harris
11-16-2007, 02:59 PM
I'll put up some clarifications on the theme this weekend, but love of inanimate objects is out.
Rats, there goes my idea. A 6 min remake of:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/2939/1195253933.jpg
Kholi
11-16-2007, 03:05 PM
I'll put up some clarifications on the theme this weekend, but love of inanimate objects is out.
Aw. So we're forced to do love for another person? Well, you guys make the rules!
Can't argue with that...
Mark Harris
11-16-2007, 03:06 PM
Aw. So we're forced to do love for another person? Well, you guys make the rules!
Can't argue with that...
We all know you prefer "self-love" Kholi, but in this case you will have to exercise some restraint.
Kholi
11-16-2007, 03:11 PM
We all know you prefer "self-love" Kholi, but in this case you will have to exercise some restraint.
Look, Mister. Stop telling people about my personal life.
Brandon Rice
11-16-2007, 03:19 PM
Rofl!
SimonB
11-16-2007, 03:39 PM
There goes my iphone love idea..:D
J.R. Hudson
11-16-2007, 03:53 PM
But I love my lil' Pepe
http://www.dormgear.net/images/Love-Ewe-front.gif
Jared Meyer
11-16-2007, 03:57 PM
But I love my lil' Pepe
You know, it took a few seconds for the picture to load as I read that. I'm not sure if it's more disturbing with or without. :lipsrseal
majormorgan
11-16-2007, 04:33 PM
February the 10th, the day after my birthday, heck I'll have to get my first ever DVXFEST entry in a couple of days early !
Barry, can the love be unrequited?
I can't wait, the old script fingers are getting twitchy...
"What model was it?"
"Hyperdyne 8-8-2 series"
"Those 8-2s always were a little twitchy."
Ta,
The Major
cinealma
11-16-2007, 05:17 PM
But I love my lil' Pepe
http://www.dormgear.net/images/Love-Ewe-front.gif
Hey, John, can I borrow that? :eek:
Robbie Comeau
11-16-2007, 09:15 PM
What's DQ mean?
Luis Caffesse
11-16-2007, 09:18 PM
What's DQ mean?
Dairy Queen.
Or disqualify....now I don't remember.
Shawn Philip Nelson
11-16-2007, 09:25 PM
A camera? well dang it, that sinks any period films before 1800's...
Barry_Green
11-17-2007, 01:50 PM
Naw, just add some time-travel into it and you're golden.
Mike@AF
11-17-2007, 07:35 PM
How about love of country or love of life?
Barry_Green
11-17-2007, 09:27 PM
The fest viewing opens on Valentine's day. I sincerely doubt love of inanimate objects or abstract concepts was the goal.
C'mon, guys, it's not that hard. Valentine's day. Hint, hint.
Shawn Philip Nelson
11-17-2007, 09:32 PM
The fest viewing opens on Valentine's day. I sincerely doubt love of inanimate objects or abstract concepts was the goal.
C'mon, guys, it's not that hard. Valentine's day. Hint, hint.
But most of these guys would rather try to find a way to not make it romantic love, lol.
Barry_Green
11-17-2007, 09:36 PM
Obviously... but then perhaps the Valentine's Day fest is not the right one for them?
Romantic love doesn't mean the film has to be a blatant gushy romance, obviously. No requirement for romantic comedies here. But if you're asking what the central structure of the "love" requirement is, it's fairly obvious that it should be a relationship between two human beings founded on love.
Barry_S has offered some clarification here:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1101005&postcount=17
He also said "love of inanimate objects is right out."
He also said further clarification would be coming this weekend.
Mike@AF
11-17-2007, 09:48 PM
Yes, but Larry said here http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1101896&postcount=25 that a bunch of Sleepless in Seattle films aren't desired and that there should be variations of the theme. Looks like he also previously answered my recent question (love of country) and named other forms of love.
Personally, from the discussions thus far I don't think romantic love between two people is a requirement even tho it's Valentine's Day. I think if that was the goal then it should be called ValentineFest or something. Of course, Barry_S and Larry would have to clarify.
Barry I think the problem is love is hard. It is a tough subject really, but It will be great to see what people will come up with. I don't think they will be your normal Lifetime channel stuff!!
Mickey Munday
11-18-2007, 08:49 AM
But most of these guys would rather try to find a way to not make it romantic love, lol.
yea like me, lol.
FilmBoy77
11-18-2007, 09:02 AM
Yes, but Larry said here http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1101896&postcount=25 that a bunch of Sleepless in Seattle films aren't desired and that there should be variations of the theme.
yea that's what i was referencing too and also what got my interest.
Personally, from the discussions thus far I don't think romantic love between two people is a requirement even tho it's Valentine's Day. I think if that was the goal then it should be called ValentineFest or something.
i agree. i guess it'll just be best for me to wait for the official rules.
Luis Caffesse
11-18-2007, 09:29 AM
i agree. i guess it'll just be best for me to wait for the official rules.
I'm not certain what else you might be waiting for...but these are the official rules.
A theme of love - I thought it was pretty clear.
If anyone has a question as to whether or not a specific story fits the rules then ask Larry or Barry_S.
They are the only ones who can give you an official yes or no.
Kubrick71
11-18-2007, 12:28 PM
Is showing the DVD box of Doctor Zhivago or having a poster of Doctor Zhivago a copyright violation?
Mickey Munday
11-18-2007, 05:16 PM
I'm not certain what else you might be waiting for...but these are the official rules.
A theme of love - I thought it was pretty clear.
he's probably referring to wht Barry Green just said when he said
"He also said further clarification would be coming this weekend."
arielman
11-19-2007, 07:20 AM
Hi Barry
"The festival category is a short film with the theme of LOVE. Films can be in any genre as long as the theme is love."
Does this mean Love could be your cat , dog , house , car , motorcycle, your mother , sister etc.
What are the limitations ?
Where do draw the line on LOVE .
By the sound of the rules this is wide open . correct?
I'm not sure if we are going to try and do one but I thought I'd ask what the limitations are first.
Thanks Barry
Ian
Barry_Green
11-19-2007, 07:37 AM
Inanimate objects have already been ruled out. Doesn't have to be a romantic relationship, but it should certainly be at least between two humans, so romance or family bonds would both qualify. Dogs & cats are out.
Again, the fest opens valentine's day, so that's probably a good guide.
Mark Harris
11-19-2007, 07:40 AM
That reminds me Barry. Mine has a part of a guy who gets really beat up in a realistic fashion. And I was so impressed by your performance in Unawakening, I was hoping you would come up and audition...:)
mjjason
11-19-2007, 07:45 AM
I see Dogs and cats are out. I guess that narrows down my decision of which film idea to make to just my original idea.
Barry_S
11-19-2007, 07:49 AM
I'll be posting some clarifications tonight. I thought I had it down, but I've gotten some PM's that raised interesting questions about use of the theme. If you're exploring any type of relationship between two people where love is an issue for one or both parties--that definitely fits the theme. Beyond that I'll try to clarify in my post tonight.
Zak Forsman
11-19-2007, 10:23 AM
Inanimate objects have already been ruled out. Doesn't have to be a romantic relationship, but it should certainly be at least between two humans, so romance or family bonds would both qualify. Dogs & cats are out.
Again, the fest opens valentine's day, so that's probably a good guide.
"Dogs and cats living together -- mass hysteria!!!"
http://happycarpenter.blogs.com/the_happy_carpenter/images/dogs_cats_living_together.jpg
Gulroc
11-19-2007, 10:38 AM
I may be getting ahead of myself but...I'm in.
joemiked
11-20-2007, 10:25 AM
doesnt every one love the movies?!! love is in the air!!!! i think im in truoble
i might wait for the no love contest eh love love love? if i wasnt in commando mode after playing area 51 blacksite i guesse i love blasten enemies...
pity da fool who aint got no love!!!
Aldo Baggins
11-27-2007, 02:19 PM
I have the location but what are the prizes ?
Jason Ramsey
11-27-2007, 02:24 PM
Prizes will be announced at a later date
Later,
Jason
Charlie Anderson
11-30-2007, 01:52 PM
Are there any limitations to have crew members work on multiple films?
Luis Caffesse
11-30-2007, 02:02 PM
Are there any limitations to have crew members work on multiple films?
Not sure what you mean exactly - but if you're asking can people work on more than one film, then yes - they can.
Charlie Anderson
11-30-2007, 02:05 PM
Not sure what you mean exactly - but if you're asking can people work on more than one film, then yes - they can.
Score! works for me :) and yes that's exactly what I was asking...sorry it's been a long day of doing nothing but stare at this forum all day long (it's normally really dead at work on fridays and I'm out of editing projects until sunday!)
snowleopard
12-01-2007, 09:45 PM
Okay, I'm not trying to stir the fire here, but the term "inanimate object" still leaves room. Take John Carpenter's Christine for example. While Christine is a car, in a sense she and Arnie in it are in love, and bond with each other, and protect and need each other. This might sound like I'm joking, but I think I bring up a good point.
Also, what about two people falling out of love (War of the Roses)? Or a loss of love (Solaris)?
Jack Daniel Stanley
12-01-2007, 11:31 PM
Okay, I'm not trying to stir the fire here, but the term "inanimate object" still leaves room. Take John Carpenter's Christine for example. While Christine is a car, in a sense she and Arnie in it are in love, and bond with each other, and protect and need each other. This might sound like I'm joking, but I think I bring up a good point.
I think this was addressed in page 2 of Barry's Guide to Love (thread):
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=116278
I'm sure this is ok ... but just to put it out there since your list only mentioned inter-anthropomorphisized thingy love ... What about trans-anthromopomorphisized love of a human for their robot, dummy, blow up doll, or even table lamp, that they think or hope is either real or capable of returning their love. I.E. King Kong or ...
A.I. / Pinochio
or Mannequin
or
Lars and the Real Girl
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805564/
I don't want to get into splitting hairs here, but yes, something along the lines of AI or Lars... or Pinocchio would be valid themes.
I think they want to avoid someone "loving" their car in a typical fashion "damn, man, I frickin' love this car." But are open to some kind of weird or romantic projection that explores the type of love usually reserved for human relationships. But I think anyone with a non-human love in interest in their story should PM Barry to be on the safe side.
Also, what about two people falling out of love (War of the Roses)? Or a loss of love (Solaris)?
Don't see how this is remotely vague or questionable. Doesn't say anywhere that people have to be falling in love. They can be in love. Be falling in love. Be suffering from unrequited love, be in love but not know it, be going through the motions of love, be falling out of love, be suffering from future, past or present love -- at least as I read it. Don't think I'm missing anything, but maybe.
Michele Seidman
12-02-2007, 04:33 PM
heh heh
Jay's got the fest bug now.
There is no cure.
Dag nab it Jack...there is no cure and you must have bitten me too because all the sudden I got ideas for shorts that would fit the criteria here and no way to shoot them...dang....look what you guys did to me....
lol
Zak Forsman
12-09-2007, 06:25 AM
I have a question. a top contender for my short film's title uses the "f-word" in it as seen in the poster mock-up below. i want to be sensitive to those who might be offended by that and ask for a little guidance on acceptable usage in poster art, thread titles. the word would actually appear in the title with an asterisk in place of the letter "U".
the word, fortunately or unfortunately, bears actual significance in its usage. i say this because I want you to know that it is not solely meant to be provocative; although I'd be lying if i didn't cop to some.
obviously, i want to be true to the integrity and spirit of the film, but i also acknowledge that this is dvxuser.com's film fest, not mine. so i can't go around freely plastering obscenities about.
anyway, kind of thinking out loud here. advice?
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8589/75957739mn6.jpg
Jack Daniel Stanley
12-09-2007, 07:16 AM
What's wrong with the asterisk?
I don't think it takes away because people assume its there for "the man" (in this case DVXuser) not because the artist prefers it.
And you know since our films have a hard R limit you can cuss it up a storm in the film, and have it appear in the credits of the film, etc.
Dunno what the big deal is. Or maybe I am playing right into your hands publicity wise :)
Zak Forsman
12-09-2007, 07:25 AM
ha, ha. no, no, no... i guess i'm thinking specifically about posting the title of the film in the thread title and in my sig. that sort of thing. and wanted to know if the asterisk made it "clean" enough to do so. didn't want to move ahead without clearing it.
Jack Daniel Stanley
12-09-2007, 07:28 AM
err ... now I am worried I'm giving you bad advice. seems fine to me. but best wait for a mod reply.
Zak Forsman
12-09-2007, 07:30 AM
i will. thank you, sir!
Luis Caffesse
12-09-2007, 08:41 AM
but best wait for a mod reply.
As a title - it's great.
:)
But yeah, as far as a thread title, this is definitely an issue for Larry, Barry, or Jason.
Barry_S
12-09-2007, 08:57 AM
Zak-- I don't see any issues with your title--not really a big deal.
Zak Forsman
12-09-2007, 09:08 AM
Zak-- I don't see any issues with your title--not really a big deal.
thanks barry.
shivrajs
12-13-2007, 05:53 AM
ummm..how about a narrative filmy music video on a hindi hiphop song about a maid's love for her master...
can qualify?
Gohanto
12-13-2007, 02:12 PM
Question, are we allowed to post footage that has been cut from the film? (From a scene that has been completely cut)
Barry_Green
12-13-2007, 02:51 PM
No footage. Them's the rules.
Barry_S
12-13-2007, 06:29 PM
ummm..how about a narrative filmy music video on a hindi hiphop song about a maid's love for her master...
can qualify?
Sounds pretty cool to me. As long as it's made for the fest and includes the required element and otherwise meets the rules--you're good.
Psynema
12-13-2007, 09:48 PM
Can I use the XH A1 ? I remember past contest had the DVX only stipulation but don't see that here.
EDIT: Nevermind, I must read slower LOL -
Good to see all cameras this time - Red Camera has blurred the line - think we'll take 24p anyway it comes.
HBlack
12-16-2007, 09:37 AM
Is it permissible to host BTS footage on a public hosting site (dailymotion, youtube)? It doesn't mention the movie itself or do anything to promote it, but I've been told to check in here.
Luis Caffesse
12-16-2007, 09:57 AM
I would send Larry or Barry a PM on that.
Jack Daniel Stanley
12-16-2007, 02:38 PM
let us know what you find out though
Luis Caffesse
12-16-2007, 03:57 PM
let us know what you find out though
Absolutely.
Any word yet?
Barry_S
12-16-2007, 04:37 PM
Is it permissible to host BTS footage on a public hosting site (dailymotion, youtube)? It doesn't mention the movie itself or do anything to promote it, but I've been told to check in here.
If you're just using youtube as a hosting service for BTS footage you're going to link here, that's fine. Just as long as you're not doing anything to drive traffic to film from other sites that's fine.
HBlack
12-16-2007, 04:41 PM
Aw man, and this is after I had deleted it.
Oh well. Thanks for clearing that up.
Mark Johnson
12-16-2007, 05:31 PM
Aw man, and this is after I had deleted it.
Oh well. Thanks for clearing that up.
Put it back up, man. It was funny as sh*t!
HBlack
12-16-2007, 06:47 PM
lol, vid is back up as requested.
HBlack
12-17-2007, 02:35 PM
It's okay to enter for exhibition purposes if one of the rules are broken, correct? Mostly concerned with the time restriction.
Barry_S
12-17-2007, 04:14 PM
It's okay to enter for exhibition purposes if one of the rules are broken, correct? Mostly concerned with the time restriction.
It's at our disgression whether we allow any exhibition only films. We really try to discourage it because it messes people up with the voting and sort of dilutes out the fest. Ultimately, we'd like to discontinue screening anything that doesn't meet the rules.
Zak Forsman
12-18-2007, 07:35 AM
i have a question about "external web sites / outside promotion". the rules state: Films may only be promoted on DVXuser.com before screening and no actual footage from films may be screened prior to the DVXuser screening. No promotion on external web sites is allowed until after the screening has been completed.
so... is it permissible to have a personal web site or something like a myspace account for the film that does not reveal any footage from the film or advertise its involvement in the DVXuser LoveFest competition? or, must the film effectively remain completely "dark" other than here at dvxuser.com until voting is closed?
Jack Daniel Stanley
12-18-2007, 08:40 AM
right.
having files on something iike youtube is apparently a necessary evil to provide people with no servers the ability to host files.
people have had websites for their films before DVXuser, but they were hidden ... i.e. you could not get to them from a main website page, they were not meta tagged, and often you had to have a password to log onto them ... such a site is for organizational or collaborative purposes only - a place to keep the latest version of the script, scheduling, clips for feedback from collaborators as clips are ready, etc.
way different than myspace and probably MORE info than you would wnt to share with the general public anyway
HBlack
01-23-2008, 09:34 PM
Are there any restrictions on how short the credits can be? I'm having a hard time trimming down my entry enough.
Matty_g
01-23-2008, 09:43 PM
I think they can just be the last frame if they need to.
andoguru
01-23-2008, 10:04 PM
Yo,
Actually, I think that the credits might have to be a certain length even though in the rules it says a 'maximum of 15 seconds of credits.' Maybe that's a typo. I think in All Hallow's Fest it had to have 10 secs minimum of credits.
I'm sure one of the fest mods will answer shortly.
Laters,
Andoguru
kurtmo
01-24-2008, 03:39 AM
I'd like this clarified as well. I've got time to spare and I thought I'd have some fun with the credits but was bummed to see a 15 second limit.
Jack Daniel Stanley
01-24-2008, 04:39 AM
Rules say up to a maximum of 15 seconds of credits / DVXuser must be clearly acknowledged. which pretty much sums it up.
Before the "clearly acknowledge DVXuser" rule credits were sometimes only one frame long (since its the internet where you can pause and people were sometimes cramped for time) Whether 1 frame is now acceptable as clearly acknowleding DVXuser or not, only Barry S or Larry R can say.
So as short as you can make them and still acknowledge DVXuser would be the deal until one of those guys chimes in and says any different or clarifies further.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-24-2008, 05:24 AM
Last fest they were really adamant about 10 second credits, why drop it down to one frame now?
From Hallows Fest...
All films must be no longer than 5 (five) minutes total. The following format must be followed. Film Title (any format), body of film, 10 seconds of credits (which must clearly acknowledge dvxuser.com).I know this is from the last fest but why keep changing credit lengths? Seems a bit confusing to do that. I remember reading that they didn't want one frame of credits anymore.
Marlon Ladd
01-24-2008, 05:39 AM
Yeah, I had a similiar question about that too from the last fest. and they (the mods.) were trying to get away from the 1 frame credits then. But only they can tell you for sure.
Jack Daniel Stanley
01-24-2008, 06:00 AM
Last fest they were really adamant about 10 second credits, why drop it down to one frame now?
From Hallows Fest...
I know this is from the last fest but why keep changing credit lengths? Seems a bit confusing to do that. I remember reading that they didn't want one frame of credits anymore.
I didn't say it could be one frame. I said "in the past" and if that short was acceptible someone else would have to say so.
like I said, we'll see ... when Barry or Larry chime in ...
But were they really adamant about 10 seconds last fast ... I mean did they force people to have 10 seconds of credits even if they were a crew of one and had one actor? Or are you basing adamant on that one line?
Enforcing a minimum length of credits beyond being able to read that it was made for DVXuser makes no sense to me. We're concerned about bandwidth and viewing time, so saying someone HAS to have a full 10 seconds of credits when it only takes 2 to say "Made for DVXuser Love Fest" seems like an edict from Bizarro world. But wiser men than I craft these rules. So maybe they want longer credits to establish that the filmmaker has copyright or something ... dunno ...
But what the rules say for ...
THIS fest is MAXIMUM. No MINIMUM beyond clearly acknowledging DVXuser. I bet you a nickle to a ginger cookie that Barry_S meant a maximum of 10 seconds for last fest. Not 10 seconds exactly. Unless people with shorter credits have stories to tell about getting their film rejected and Barry Saying "no no no, you must add 3 seconds of credits"
BUT, WHILE ......
the language of the rules this fest seem clear, and I know where the rules are coming from - credit the fest and don't go overboard in length - I gaurantee you not one mod has ever complained about credits being too short, but they go on and on about "Geez can you believe 45 seconds of credits for a 5 minute movie!"
STILL ... if there is some vaguery, either real or imagined ... Barry S or Larry R are th final words so for all this preamble, if you still need more than "MAXIMUM 15" and "clearly acknowledge DVXuser" then wait for it ... wait for it ...
Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-24-2008, 06:06 AM
I didn't say it could be one frame. I said "in the past" and if that short was acceptible someone else would have to say so.
like I said, we'll see ... when Barry or Larry chime in ...
But were they really adamant about 10 seconds last fast ... I mean did they force people to have 10 seconds of credits even if they were a crew of one and had one actor? Or are you basing adamant on that one line?
I was referring to the post by Matty_g about the one frame deal.
And yes, in my experience.... they were pretty adamant about the new 10 second rule. A few entries fell a little short but not many. Probably the one man team entries.
EDIT: I'm not saying that they HAD to be 10 seconds long, just that they seemed to want to get away from the "flash" of credits at the end.
I'm sure they'll set us all straight soon. Myself included.
Mike
Jack Daniel Stanley
01-24-2008, 06:16 AM
as long as we've significantly added to the confusion in the interim, that's the main thing :)
Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-24-2008, 06:18 AM
as long as we've significantly added to the confusion in the interim, that's the main thing :)LOL! :D
Personally, I hope they allow the last frame or credits deal. :)
Aside from the actors... I'm pretty much a one man team.
HBlack
01-24-2008, 07:18 AM
So if the credits only acknowledged dvxuser and nobody else to save on time, would that be alright? I don't want to neglect everyone who worked on this, but I don't want to hack up my entry too much either.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-24-2008, 07:30 AM
So if the credits only acknowledged dvxuser and nobody else to save on time, would that be alright? I don't want to neglect everyone who worked on this, but I don't want to hack up my entry too much either.I guess we'll find out.
You should always credit everyone in your film though. Even a final frame credit will allow for that.
Mike
Jack Daniel Stanley
01-24-2008, 07:39 AM
Quite often in the past though, just for DVXuser, there were no credits, and the crew and cast were credited in the first post of the thread, to save time / bandwidth, then later on your website or whatever you could put the real credits, but that was back in the old days before the 10 or 15 second credit rule, so who knows now.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-24-2008, 07:44 AM
Quite often in the past though, just for DVXuser, there were no credits, and the crew and cast were credited in the first post of the thread, to save time / bandwidth, then later on your website or whatever you could put the real credits, but that was back in the old days before the 10 or 15 second credit rule, so who knows now.That's cool. I didn't know that. Not a bad idea...
Barry_S
01-24-2008, 08:43 AM
One frame credits are fine--we never had a minimum. The intent is to prevent the agony of drawn out feature length credits on a short film.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
01-24-2008, 08:47 AM
One frame credits are fine--we never had a minimum. The intent is to prevent the agony of drawn out feature length credits on a short film.Koolio and the gang.
:thumbup:
cardmaverick
01-25-2008, 08:05 AM
I hope this doesn't sound stupid, but I just want to be certain, can I shoot 1.85 and deliver it letter boxed in 16:9? The rules say it has to be formatted to 16:9, so I take it to mean letter boxed. Is this a correct assumption?
Thanks!
mikkowilson
01-25-2008, 09:49 AM
Don't waste bandwidth on black.
Export at the native aspect ratio you are working in if possible.
The picture area must be 16:9 or wider. (So no 4:3 projects)
We've had entries that where 4:3 files, but letterboxed to 16:9 video - was ok, but a waste of bandwidth for the black bars.
- Mikko
Mark Harris
01-25-2008, 09:52 AM
Hey, does the R rating include boobs?
Ted Arabian
01-25-2008, 09:55 AM
I think it depends on the beauty of the boobs! :evil:
Seriously, I would like to know the answer to this question as well.
Blaine
01-25-2008, 09:59 AM
Hey, does the R rating include boobs?You can see boobs in a PG-13 so I don't see a problem in a R rating.
Below is a quote from Hudson concerning the "rating" system. This was taken from "Everything you wanted to know about Horrorfest but were afraid to ask" (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=64170)
3. All films must be a "R" or lower. Our "R" rating is pretty loose.. and its a hard R.. this is horror.
In the opinion of the Rating Board, this film definitely contains some adult material. Parents are strongly urged to find out more about this film before they allow their children to accompany them. An R-rated film may include strong language, violence, nudity, drug abuse, other elements, or a combination of the above, so parents are counseled in advance to take this advisory rating very seriously.
Jack Daniel Stanley
01-25-2008, 10:15 AM
We've had breasts in at lest two entries in the past.
And full nudity in at lest one of those.
So no big woop.
But nice MARKeting Harris :)
Mark Harris
01-25-2008, 10:16 AM
What boobs? I know yours had a side boob. But I am talking a real boob. Either way, I'm set. thnx guys
Jack Daniel Stanley
01-25-2008, 10:24 AM
The victim at the top who's then shown gutted was naked head to toe in REKINDLED.
S I M I L O had full on B O O B.
And CPU had a flash frame of one.
Barry_Green
01-25-2008, 11:45 AM
I do have to say that I appreciate that our members have not gone for the gratuitous or exploitative.
Mark Harris
01-25-2008, 11:46 AM
I do have to say that I appreciate that our members have not gone for the gratuitous or exploitative.
Are you being funny?
mikkowilson
01-25-2008, 11:51 AM
Barry's not funny. Don't be ridiculous.
:evil:
- Mikko
Jack Daniel Stanley
01-25-2008, 11:52 AM
Haha, I can't tell either. Either he means by and large they haven't, or it is a joke referring to the present conversation.
Sometimes Mr. Green is an enigma wrapped in a riddle wrapped in a tortilla.
Mark Harris
01-25-2008, 12:12 PM
Haha, I can't tell either. Either he means by and large they haven't, or it is a joke referring to the present conversation.
Sometimes Mr. Green is an enigma wrapped in a riddle wrapped in a tortilla.
I was referring to the 300 lb naked woman and the extremely graphic female masturbation in certain entries...:)
Barry_Green
01-25-2008, 02:29 PM
I mean that by and large, the users haven't gone for putting in such content. Sure there have been some examples of it showing up, but for the most part it's been free from gratuitous and exploitative content and I think that's commendable.
Ted Arabian
01-28-2008, 05:49 AM
uh-oh... times are changing Mr. Green!
Barry_Green
01-28-2008, 07:11 AM
If so, that'd be disappointing. Exploitation has never been part of what DVXUser is about.
Ted Arabian
01-28-2008, 07:38 AM
No... I kid. But I think that I am doing something a bit daring... at least for me. It's not Exploitive or gratuitous... Hopefully it' sensuous.
Zak Forsman
01-28-2008, 10:32 AM
now we're talking!
Robbie Comeau
01-28-2008, 10:38 AM
Exploitive...Gratuitous...Sensuous...Brain..Going to...explode...
How long before the upload link is put here?
Ted Arabian
01-28-2008, 11:27 AM
How long before the upload link is put here?
Yikes Zim! Let me shoot my film before we start uploading! :)
Yikes Zim! Let me shoot my film before we start uploading! :)
sorry to rush you! I guess we have a couple of week. I keep thinking the deadline is the 3rd!
Barry_S
01-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Nudity within the R-rating realm is perfectly acceptable. Honestly, I'm sort of surprised we've had so few films with any nudity compared to most of the film festivals I've been to.
Zak Forsman
01-30-2008, 08:25 PM
NudeFest seems the obvious choice for the next fest. am i a genius or what? i've already got my title: "I F*CKING NUDE YOU!!!"
Charlie Anderson
02-04-2008, 08:32 AM
Uhhhhh crap...so for a doc do I have to have a camera somewhere in the interview?
Luis Caffesse
02-04-2008, 08:35 AM
You should have a camera somewhere in the film.
I saw from the grabs you posted that you're using some old photos of them...
any chance you can find a photo that has a camera in it?
That might be the least intrusive way to do it.
Just a thought.
Charlie Anderson
02-04-2008, 11:42 AM
Yeah I'm going to have to pull something out of my ass on this one haha I'll see what I can do :)
Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-04-2008, 11:46 AM
I think most people will miss the camera in mine, but it's there. :)
Robbie Comeau
02-05-2008, 05:17 PM
Well, I have a shot of some ones eyeball, extreme close up. And you can see the camera in the reflection of his eye. Is that to hard?
Just kidding!
When will the info be up on loading films to server somewhere?
wartez
02-05-2008, 10:11 PM
do you have to put the title of the film at the beginning? before any footage?
totitefilms
02-06-2008, 02:04 AM
Can anyone tell me if I can submit a movie that is 6 minutes and 30 seconds long :)?
mikkowilson
02-06-2008, 02:22 AM
Can anyone tell me if I can submit a movie that is 6 minutes and 30 seconds long :)?
No you may not. Sorry.
The rules clearly state a maximum of 6 minutes.
This is nor only as fairness to other entrants, but also for technical & practical reasons regarding the review & distribution process.
- Mikko
totitefilms
02-06-2008, 11:41 AM
No you may not. Sorry.
The rules clearly state a maximum of 6 minutes.
This is nor only as fairness to other entrants, but also for technical & practical reasons regarding the review & distribution process.
- Mikko
Thanks for the reply. I might have to put the title and the credits over the movie when it's running in order to reduce the length. I'm wondering if this is legal.
Larry R
02-06-2008, 01:09 PM
Well, I have a shot of some ones eyeball, extreme close up. And you can see the camera in the reflection of his eye. Is that to hard?
As long as it can be clearly seen, than it would be acceptable.
When will the info be up on loading films to server somewhere?
The upload info will be provided at the time we begin accepting uploads. It should be fairly soon, so be watching for it.
do you have to put the title of the film at the beginning? before any footage?
No, it can appear over footage, or placed inside the opening sequence (such as I did for my HeroFest entry, Leap Of Faith (http://www.day7studios.com/nrestudios_archive/movies/leapoffaith/) )
Thanks for the reply. I might have to put the title and the credits over the movie when it's running in order to reduce the length. I'm wondering if this is legal.
It is acceptable to put the title over the running footage, but their needs to be separate credits after the ending frame, and all must be within the 6 minute time frame.
Robbie Comeau
02-06-2008, 02:32 PM
Thanks Larry. Can't wait.
totitefilms
02-06-2008, 03:17 PM
Thanks Larry!
Zak Forsman
02-06-2008, 03:18 PM
...thanks Larry... (who's next?)
Larry R
02-06-2008, 03:19 PM
Posted: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=124427
totitefilms
02-07-2008, 04:46 PM
It is acceptable to put the title over the running footage, but their needs to be separate credits after the ending frame, and all must be within the 6 minute time frame.
Can I extend the last frame of the last scene as a still shot and run the credits over it?
HBlack
02-10-2008, 07:28 AM
Does it need to be 16:9 or 2.35:1 specifically, or can it be somewhere in between?
Larry R
02-10-2008, 07:35 AM
Just so it's at least 16:9, preferably one of those two, but at least 16:9
Robert Eldon
02-13-2008, 05:01 PM
I need clarification on promoting the LoveFest entry on my own website. Can we post our film on our own website after the viewing starts or after the voting is over?
Thanks!
Jason Ramsey
02-13-2008, 05:07 PM
Wait until the fest is over or at least until voting has been closed... Rules state, no outside promotion until after the screening has been completed.
later,
jason