I have a bad feeling

[x-angel]

If the love story has a "dramatic" flair....does anyone think that would DQ the short? I ask this because I know there was a dramafest while I was gone to Kosovo. But the story I want to tell would have elements of a drama, but still keeping with the overall theme of love.....

Make sense? Or is it pretty mucha given that any love story would have the "drama" essence to it? Love is a dramatic emotion as it is....

[Mark Johnson]

Although we have not seen the rules, the clear past history of the fests has been to encourage filmmaking and innovative thinking. So, I am sure your story will be adaptable and, in fact, probably right in line with a lot of the entrants. Love IS drama.

[Luis Caffesse]

Love is a theme ... not a genre.
I think any genre is free game here, as long as the story hits on "love" as a theme.

Much like "darkness" was used for Hallows fest.
I really like this approach because it doesn't tie us to any one genre.
Love can definitely be explored in a drama as well as in a comedy.

So... go to town!

[x-angel]

Thats what I figured.. I just didn't want to get into a script, and rules come out and say "We have already had a dramafest, so no dramas, no dramatic touches, no use of the 'save the drama for your mama' line, and you must use a banana..." :)

[Brandon Rice]

doesn't EVERY story have drama? if it doesn't... it's not really a story worth hearing... IMO

[x-angel]

good point

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

doesn't EVERY story have drama? if it doesn't... it's not really a story worth hearing... IMOI don't know... there are some pretty good comedies without any drama. I would love to see some LOL movies this Fest. :laugh:

Room for everything really...

Mike

[Brandon Rice]

Any good comedy movie still has drama...

drama is what makes a story, a story.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

either of my All Hallows exhibition shorts, especially Unawakening, would've qualified for either Hallows Fest or Love Fest ... actually now that I think of it, same goes for my drama, horror, hero, sci-fi, and zombie, and would've for my spyfest too had I been able to keep the original ending, but most apropos of those would be Unawakeing for Hallows or Rekindled for Horror

but I think love fest could arguably be a buddy cop movie ... at least for now until we get a subtle clarification of it ... like in Hallows Fest it was eventually clarified from just Darkness to "it should creep you out"

If we get a clarification of "it should be romantic" then buddy cop, or loving a demon baby would be out. Even still Unawakening (hallows), Rekindled (horror), and 18 Seconds (Drama) would all still work for Love Fest.

[Mark Harris]

If we get a clarification of "it should be romantic" then buddy cop...would be out.

He did say "Dramatic flair..." hint hint.

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Any good comedy movie still has drama...

drama is what makes a story, a story.Really? I can name you plenty of Monty Python movies that don't. :grin:

Nothing that would truly be considered as dramatic anyway. Unless you're really using the term loosely, and I mean loosely.






dra·ma
n.

A prose or verse composition, especially one telling a serious story, that is intended for representation by actors impersonating the characters and performing the dialogue and action.
A serious narrative work or program for television, radio, or the cinema.

Mike

[NC17z]

doesn't EVERY story have drama? if it doesn't... it's not really a story worth hearing... IMO

Well put Brandon...

[Tom Marshall]

If we get a clarification of "it should be romantic" then buddy cop,... would be out.

I suppose that would depend on the definition of "buddy cops" :lipsrseal

[cinealma]

Lots of definitions for drama. I think when a lot of people talk about "drama" today, they are talking about a genre-like definition. Usually this means something "serious", as Kyser pointed out.

But to me, drama, at its core, means CONFLICT. And without conflict, I don't think you have much of a film, Warhol's and Jarman's aside.

Good comedy has conflict. Good horror has conflict. Good sci-fi has conflict. Good westerns have conflict. Etc., etc., etc.

Conflict can be internal or external. It can be between best friends or a guy and his on-the-fritz tv remote.

Kyser alluded to Monty Python. Lot of conflict there, me thinks! :grin:


Cheers! :beer:

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Lots of definitions for drama. I think when a lot of people talk about "drama" today, they are talking about a genre-like definition. Usually this means something "serious", as Kyser pointed out.

But to me, drama, at its core, means CONFLICT. And without conflict, I don't think you have much of a film, Warhol's and Jarman's aside.

Good comedy has conflict. Good horror has conflict. Good sci-fi has conflict. Good westerns have conflict. Etc., etc., etc.

Conflict can be internal or external. It can be between best friends or a guy and his on-the-fritz tv remote.

Kyser alluded to Monty Python. Lot of conflict there, me thinks! :grin:


Cheers! :beer:

I think that's really calling Drama something else though. There is conflict in Bugs Bunny. Is it Drama? If you go by this analogy I guess so.

Like I said, if you guys want to use the term Drama "loosely" than it can be applied to anything.

In that case, all movies have it so I guess they're all good. :happy:

Mike



Lots of definitions for drama. I think when a lot of people talk about "drama" today, they are talking about a genre-like definition. Usually this means something "serious", as Kyser pointed out.
That's the way I look at "Drama". Maybe I just misinterpreted the initial comment?

[cinealma]

I think that's really calling Drama something else though. There is conflict in Bugs Bunny. Is it Drama? If you go by this analogy I guess so.

Like I said, if you guys want to use the term Drama "loosely" than it can be applied to anything.

In that case, all movies have it so I guess they're all good. :happy:

Mike

That's my whole genre argument right there.

Is Bugs Bunny a drama? IMO, no.
Is there drama in Bugs Bunny? Definitely, yes.

And there's definitely BAD drama. I've watched enough of it in my lifetime, I tell ya! :)

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

That's my whole genre argument right there.

Is Bugs Bunny a drama? IMO, no.
Is there drama in Bugs Bunny? Definitely, yes.

And there's definitely BAD drama. I've watched enough of it in my lifetime, I tell ya! :)
I agree with that, but that is one loose interpretation of Drama. :thumbsup:

If we go that far... there is Drama in everything. Yes, even in livestock being launched via catapult off the rooftop of a castle. :grin:

[Tom Marshall]

...even in livestock being launched via catapult off the rooftop of a castle. :grin:

But that's just makes for good cinema... :grin:

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

But that's just makes for good cinema... :grin:Damn right!:thumbsup:

:laugh:

[Brandon Rice]

But to me, drama, at its core, means CONFLICT. And without conflict, I don't think you have much of a film,


Ya hit the nail on the head John!

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Ya hit the nail on the head John!


I'm not trying to argue but maybe when you said this you meant conflict within the PLOT.

doesn't EVERY story have drama? if it doesn't... it's not really a story worth hearing...That makes sense to me.

Otherwise, with "conflict" we are talking about just about everything ever made. From Bugs Bunny to The Godfather.


Mike

[lauralouface]

Looks like there is some drama within this thread over the subject of drama :P

[Barry_Green]

Okay, let's be rational about this: the festival name is "Love Fest". It's being timed around February 14th. The theme of the fest is very likely to be "romantic", obviously.

Just as Hallows Fest was "darkness", this'll be about romance.

However, if there's some loophole to make a "buddy cop" movie, Jack, remember our plan: we're casting Hudson and Shaun...

[x-angel]

I love it how I have this tendency of starting threads that are like a hand grenade in a crowded room....

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

I love it how I have this tendency of starting threads that are like a hand grenade in a crowded room....
Naaah... Brandon's a good guy! If you can't discuss this sort of thing here then things would be pretty boring. :thumbsup:

I think I'm clear on what he meant now.

:beer:
Cheers,

Mike

[Matt Harris]

Simply put, there are many forms of Love. Love can be an emotion, Love can be a noun. I think its best that we as filmakers interpret it in many different ways otherwise we're going to be downloading a heckuvalotta jennifer aniston wannabe sap crap.

[ProjX v2.0]

if there's some loophole to make a "buddy cop" movie, Jack, remember our plan: we're casting Hudson and Shaun...

Where can I buy tix for that?

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Okay, let's be rational about this: the festival name is "Love Fest". It's being timed around February 14th. The theme of the fest is very likely to be "romantic", obviously.

Just as Hallows Fest was "darkness", this'll be about romance.

However, if there's some loophole to make a "buddy cop" movie, Jack, remember our plan: we're casting Hudson and Shaun...
In a surprising development ... looks like unlike hallows fest (restricted to creepy) Love fest is not restricted to Romantic ... buddy cop will work after all

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1101005#post1101005

Any kind of love is fine, but there's a limit to how far you can stretch the theme. Familial love? Definitely. A zombie's love for human flesh--don't make us DQ you. :)

Any camera is fine.

I mean it would have to be what the buddy cop short was about
"I love you man!"
"Grooooooooss." as they leap from the top of an exploding skyscraper to the safety of another roof.

So no incidental partners a la Dirty Harry, but you could do it under the category of "brotherly", the exploding toilet scene in one of the Lethal Weapons comes to mind. That's love.

[majormorgan]

Drama aside, if you look at films like Solaris [Remake] its a love story set against the backdrop of space.

There can be drama in a love story, and there can also be a love that arises from drama so I think anything's open.

This is going to be a great and challenging fest...

Major M

[Lawsuit_Boy]

Any good comedy movie still has drama...

drama is what makes a story, a story.

Exactly. Comedy derives from drama.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

TNT knows drama.