View Full Version : The Meridian Hard Drive - AKA My plan B

10-24-2007, 11:38 PM

Marlon Ladd
10-25-2007, 05:34 AM
Good luck. That pic looks like a real picture from an old newspaper clipping - cool.

10-25-2007, 07:22 AM
Interesting, Too bad, I was hoping to see the scarecrow one in the fest!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-25-2007, 12:09 PM
I like the gritty look, it fits perfectly!

Can't wait to see it.



Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-26-2007, 05:54 PM
Try exporting it as a .mp4 using H.264

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-26-2007, 06:07 PM
Go File > Export > Movie > File type Quicktime > Video > Compressor > Mpeg4.

After that, maybe you can use Quicktime Pro and H.264

I'm not really sure though.

Worth a shot...

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-26-2007, 06:14 PM
I just tried it with a 4 second clip from my movie. Ended up using QT Pro to convert it to H.264 after exporting it from Premiere Pro.

Worked like a charm.


Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-26-2007, 06:20 PM
If you use quicktime pro to convert the export it will shrink it down to nothing. Just use H.264 as the codec.

It's only $30.00 and worth every penny.


Kirk Attard
10-26-2007, 06:28 PM
Try the adobe media encoder to export rather than export as a movie. Use a h.264 codec for a quicktime time file. Then play around a little with the bitrate to get it as close as possible to 50 megs. Hope you can do that in Premiere 2.0 as i'm using cs3 but i think you can.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-26-2007, 06:37 PM
Try the adobe media encoder to export rather than export as a movie. Use a h.264 codec for a quicktime time file. Then play around a little with the bitrate to get it as close as possible to 50 megs. Hope you can do that in Premiere 2.0 as i'm using cs3 but i think you can.I try the encoder with Premiere Pro 1.5 and it looks like crap when compared to exporting as a movie. It's large, but QT Pro shrinks it down and keeps the image looking great.

In the end though... whatever works!

Good luck.


Larry Rutledge
10-26-2007, 10:43 PM
One thing to check is the audio settings, they can bloat the file considerable and there are some good audio compression settigns that will bring that size down.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-27-2007, 05:41 AM
That might do it. What do you suggest? The file, when it's big enough to see, comes out to 100 mb. Thanks!I took a HD file that was over 1 GB and shrunk it down to less than 50MB using QT Pro> H.264> 77% quality> 480x250.

It can be done.

I hope you managed to get something in.



Jay Rodriguez
10-27-2007, 06:50 AM
oh man, last minute exporting issues was my biggest fear to be honest with you. Did u get it in before midnight?

10-31-2007, 09:11 AM
My big negative is the stampsized render/submission.

On the plus side it was very creepy in a real way.
I'm not at all into disturbia but this one didn't annoy me, in fact I found it interesting throughout.

This is a good place to develop the technical aspects of video/film so I hope you stay at it and keep entering.


10-31-2007, 02:55 PM
The problem with this particular film was that it couldn't seem to decide exactly what it was: was it a faux-snuff film, built under pretenses of realism (eg. Scrapbook, August Underground), or is it a stylistically compelling film, with a definitive plot/dialog, and solid editing and such.

I like fusion as much as the next guy, but it doesn't work here. It's like combining rap with erudite music. While you can mesh the two shamelessly, neither will be fully justified, and that's pretty much what's happening here.

An interesting direction you could have taken it in, is having the lead "filmmaker" holding a penchant towards creating a movie. He's obsessed with cinema, and he wants to bring these elements of the killings into a cinematic and cohesive whole. He's attempting to create a new form of art, something that pushes the boundaries, combing human murder with careful creation.

Pulling off Fred Vogel here (who by the way is a lot less talented than he thinks he is), I would keep the film entirely within the realm of this snuff film. The precursor at the beginning makes a poor segue into the remainder of the film, since it implies that we are not watching the original snuff tape, but instead a re-cut one. This removes us from the atmosphere. You could less awkwardly start it off instead with an interview with the "killer/filmmaker," describing his 'art' that perhaps his friend tapes.

I'd actually keep the footage, and try to draw it all together with writing. Then you'd have a great and truly disturbing piece.

Good Luck,


Brandon Rice
10-31-2007, 09:44 PM
Was really trying to figure out what this exactly was...

some of the images were good, and creepy... but what was it? lol.

11-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Wait wait wait wait wait.

I DID like this film. Maybe there were a few parts that didn't work as well for me, and you should have been more clear these people were making an artistic snuff film, but you were clearly thinking outside the box, and managed to generate a truly imposing atmosphere (a difficult feat to attain), and for that you should be commended. I enjoyed your entry more than around 80% of the ones here, and I'll probably vote for it.

I only comment on films that I either really like, or feel can be improved to become excellent. And yours is one for certain.

Good Work

11-01-2007, 04:34 PM
Gary, your film was pretty disturbing. The usage of the old Sony camera really lent itself to your premise of the movie being "found footage". Definitely some creepy images, music and effects.

11-02-2007, 01:27 PM
Obviously, the size of the film is a little bit of an issue, but I just pulled it open a little bit bigger (just gave it a little more pixellated gritiness. :))

I really dug some of the images. The part of the woman begging for the guy not to kill her unborn child and then the stabbing of the woman, the pulling out of the umbilical cord I guess it was, plus maybe the fetus?, was a little disturbing at first and then kind of over the top. Fortunately for me it wasn't realistic enough to make me hate it.

It did feel a little disjointed, but your comments about it being pieces of a larger piece make sense.

Good imagery. Love the black and white, gritty look to it. Sound was excellent!

It was hard to take the killer seriously because he is presented as this scrawny, nasaly little guy. Now, I'm sure there are some hardcore little killers out there, but this actor didn't quite pull of the horror for me.

I really like the idea of somebody creating "artistic" snuff films. I don't think I've ever seen that before. That would definitely make a good script for a bad guy.

Anyway, good job and I hope to see something bigger for this project.


11-02-2007, 01:59 PM
... But after spending more money than I'd intended on animal organs to pull out of the poor actress, I went into Ed Wood mode and insisted on getting as much footage out of them as possible.

:grin: That's funny!

J.R. Hudson
11-03-2007, 10:38 AM
The second I realized it was a Blair Witch approach; I shut it down.

No story, no originality. It seemed to be torture-porn for the sake of torture-porn. The 2" by 2" screen size was not helping.

11-03-2007, 11:15 AM
Iím not sure what your were going for but you could have found a better way to present it than the istsy bitsy horror movie channel. Oh, we suddenly broke into Gorefest. I can live without it.

11-03-2007, 04:54 PM
Raptor 365, I'm with you. The flick is ridiculously small. I couldn't get Premiere to render a file under 50mb that was any bigger. When I rendered it at just 125mb, it was crystal clear, and much bigger. ....

Yeah you have to compress it(mp4 or mov). Ask/look around and you'll go doh. :) There's loads of info around.
Don't worry, everyone has issues with compression at submission time.

11-03-2007, 04:59 PM
The second I realized it was a Blair Witch approach; I shut it down.

No story, no originality. It seemed to be torture-porn for the sake of torture-porn. The 2" by 2" screen size was not helping.

LOL. Don't mind J.R. That's J.R. :)
//Tough crowd here. :)

11-03-2007, 05:09 PM
But yeah Gary's right though. Wouldn't hurt to offer advice if you claim to have it.

for example: Stephan Hayens. Great advice.

11-03-2007, 05:16 PM
Was really trying to figure out what this exactly was...

some of the images were good, and creepy... but what was it? lol.

Clarify:: [The above comment] is exactly that kind of attitude that makes me hate this place.

11-03-2007, 05:17 PM
Not my cup of tea, but I liked it more than the other "torture porn" entries. The other ones I'm referring to all have someone tied to a chair and beaten for an extended, interminable amount of time. I don't get it. Is that suppose to be scary, thrilling, funny, erotic..? To me it just seems pointless. Of course, I'm not the target audience. A lot of people LOVE this stuff.

I think yours is better than the others because you went all the way. Way over the top! Having the baby cut out ala Sharon Tate, pretty amazing. The girl's screaming I found very authentic and chilling. Made it more real. As did the black and white grittiness. The music and sound were also very good.

Needs more story, but you've got the beginnings of something for those Fangorians out there!

Matt Harris
11-03-2007, 05:19 PM
i kinda dug this movie, it was easily one of the most unsettling of all the entries, it evoked an honest emotional response from me and that's a good thing. obviously
the file submitted was too small to really critique the production, but for what it was supposed to be, found footage of vile and disgusting murders, i thought it was effective.
especially for a last minute plan B.

Ben Sliker
11-04-2007, 02:52 PM
i hadn't got to watch this one yet, but from the comments so far, i made it next on my list.

Because of the content of this movie, it was fairly hard for me to watch, unsettling is the correct term Defcon. That being said, the sort of "found footage" look can be effective and popular, but i think you should work on some sort of story arc for the footage, instead of just a torture montage. I got the setup with the text in the beginning, but try to tell more of a story with the images.

This movie was shocking, but I think it could have fared better if there had been more development than what felt like episodic torture scenes. Ask these questions to yourself, who are these people, what is there motivation? I think it would have been neat to see the tortured try to fight back, perhaps even win, that would explain how the defense got this footage. The medium that you shot in has potential, i would focus on developing the characters a little more, the shock value is there, trust me.

Technically speaking, it is rough to comment because of the size, if you have trouble in the future with this, please feel free to PM me and i can help you out, or hell, compress it for you. The gun shot at the end took me out of the vibe that you were going for, because all the sound that you had until that point seemed like it was diagetic (coming from) to the camera, and that was an added sound effect.

EDIT: just thought of this, here's a better recipe of intestines/embilical (sp?) cord, take panty hose and fill them with cotton balls, paint the whole thing with liquid latex and cover in blood ... looks really gross. Watching your film, I was like, what's that black tube, and why is it in her stomach?

11-05-2007, 04:20 PM
hmm, i'm sure I haven't been drinking, but..... the writing at the beginning is rather blurred, maybe I'll put it on th back burner for later, when I have nothing else to do.

11-07-2007, 06:46 PM
Hey GaryOldman,

This was a gruesome little film and a good overall idea. It could probably have been shorter. I know it's hard to tell the story in a normal narrative format because it's supposed to be little clips recovered from a harddrive.

I don't know what you chose black and white for this...color would have been more realistic to a 'home video' feel. I thought the lead bad guy looked too young and clean. It was hard to make out things because of the low quality at times, but I think you were meaning to do that for the feel and also to help make special effects look better which is fine...probably why you chose black and white too.

You have some pretty messed up and gruesome ideas in this short and kudos for that.


Marlon Ladd
11-07-2007, 06:58 PM
This short did have that gruesome sort of realism feel to it, like it really happened. I think you achieved what is was you were trying to do. A bland, grainy coloring probably would have looked good too in contrast to the B&W. Anyway, good job with the darkness, because this film really brought it out.

11-09-2007, 04:42 PM
...FUN FACT: A lot of the screaming in this flick is looped from an alternate take of the scene at the beginning where a girl has her hand nailed to the wall. Why are said screams so damn great? Because the actor holding the mallet is a spaz and actually drove the nail through the webbing of her fingers! Whoops.

Ummmm, Gary. Ummm, the general rule is safety first? Always? Ooookay?
Some of us have had...episodes...nameless acts...(ahem)...but please always... if it's possible to harm someone doing a shot, don't do it. There's always a more creative way. Users imagination, for one.
Besides, you'll get your butt sued off someday.

Easy man. :)