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augenblick
10-18-2007, 01:29 PM
I just received an e-mail from Hien:

Quote: "It will be shipped out either Monday or Tuesday next week."

I ordered on September 27th and my order number is 241



:thumbsup:



Peter

Kholi
10-18-2007, 01:56 PM
They have to be swamped with emails. Alright, so it won't be this week or maybe the other orders go out next week. At least it's almost here...

Demangone
10-18-2007, 08:05 PM
This is very good news. I'm 239.

Chan Ee Jien
10-18-2007, 10:59 PM
I have no idea what my order no is but I placed mine on the 29th. I think I better get the rails now :evil:

I haven't received any email though

puredrifting
10-18-2007, 11:00 PM
Hi all:

How did you find out what number you were? I ordered right around September 27th also but I just talked to Quyen and he verified that they received my payment.

Hopefully mine is coming soon as well!

Dan

DCP
10-18-2007, 11:08 PM
I ordered 11am (EST) on the 24th of Sept. and only received a letter in the mail saying I should be getting it soon (if I haven't already). I haven't already. Hopefully I'll get a tracking number soon. I have a shoot I was hoping to try it out on the 24th of this month. We'll see.

Kholi
10-19-2007, 12:04 AM
Hi all:

How did you find out what number you were? I ordered right around September 27th also but I just talked to Quyen and he verified that they received my payment.

Hopefully mine is coming soon as well!

Dan


The number is actually on the email that was sent out. Should be in the subject line or close to it.

DeGrey
10-19-2007, 12:21 AM
People are referring to their order receipt numbers. Numbers from AdapterPlace.com are 3 digit numbers. Orders from LetusDirect.com are 5 digit numbers. In either case, as Kholi said, the number will be in your email receipt from the respective site you purchased from.

If you ordered from LetusDirect, just shoot me a PM or email if you want an update.

Chan, I sent you a PM with an update.

PaPa
10-19-2007, 09:15 AM
i never received such an e-mail but im not worried, Degrey has been ontop of every question of mine and answers within minutes!

i ordered mine on the 24th, so i imagine mine will go out around the same time. w0000 excited. plus i just won a 24mm 2.0 nikon lens for 250 on ebay!

jgastelb
10-19-2007, 09:25 AM
w0000 excited. plus i just won a 24mm 2.0 nikon lens for 250 on ebay!

LOL! You say that like it's pocket change.
:smile:

DCP
10-19-2007, 10:16 AM
LOL! You say that like it's pocket change.
:smile:


For what it's worth, the Nikon 24mm f2.0 is a fantastic lens! Here is some footage I recently shot with the HVX, Brevis and 24mm lens (the 24mm lens was used on all wide shots and the crane shot).

www.drawingwithchalkthefilm.com/dwc_demo.html

jgastelb
10-19-2007, 10:20 AM
For what it's worth, the Nikon 24mm f2.0 is a fantastic lens! Here is some footage I recently shot with the HVX, Brevis and 24mm lens (the 24mm lens was used on all wide shots and the crane shot).

www.drawingwithchalkthefilm.com/dwc_demo.html (http://www.drawingwithchalkthefilm.com/dwc_demo.html)

I understand but that's still a hefty price for just one lens IMHO. Carry on!

ifownlee41nite@mac.com
10-19-2007, 10:26 AM
Order Number: 249
Order Date: Friday, 28 September 2007

Haven't received an email A.O.Y..

puredrifting
10-19-2007, 10:56 AM
Hi all:

Hmm...I never did receive a receipt. But I did get a response from Quyen saying my check had been received and the order was in progress. Good enough for me, I guess.

Dabn

disjecta
10-19-2007, 10:58 AM
For what it's worth, the Nikon 24mm f2.0 is a fantastic lens! Here is some footage I recently shot with the HVX, Brevis and 24mm lens (the 24mm lens was used on all wide shots and the crane shot).

www.drawingwithchalkthefilm.com/dwc_demo.html (http://www.drawingwithchalkthefilm.com/dwc_demo.html)

Love that crane shot :) Are you getting softness at the edges of that lens? I can't imagine you would be getting edge-to-edge sharpness.

PaPa
10-19-2007, 11:08 AM
looks like you need to look around at prices for lenses my friend. 250 for a 24mm F2 is cheap.

ifownlee41nite@mac.com
10-19-2007, 11:14 AM
I understand but that's still a hefty price for just one lens IMHO. Carry on!

$250.00 is cheap indeed for a good lens.

jgastelb
10-19-2007, 11:49 AM
looks like you need to look around at prices for lenses my friend. 250 for a 24mm F2 is cheap.

Alrighty then!!! Maybe I don't understand but I just bought a 200mm canon fd for about $25 on KEH.com. I'm sure the 24mm is great and better build and all but it's such a wide lens that I don't know I would shell out that much dough for it. Sorry to get off topic. Accept my apologies!
Jgastelb

DCP
10-19-2007, 11:55 AM
Love that crane shot :) Are you getting softness at the edges of that lens? I can't imagine you would be getting edge-to-edge sharpness.

My sharpness is actually pretty good. There is some slight fringing that happens at the edge of the frame and the sharpness could be a bit sharper at the edges, but I was actually very pleased with how sharp it appears especially for a 24mm lens (I have the M2 too, but I was getting too much edge softness for my tastes). I also ordered the Letus Extreme so we'll see what that can deliver.

And it's true about the cost of lenses. I've spent almost $3000 on lenses (10 total), so that averages to about $300 each. Of course these lenses are some of the fastest Nikons out there (the 85mm 1.4 cost over $500 by itself). But you get what you pay for. I'm now fortunate that my extensive equipment is earning money by itself :)

Todd

Chenopup
10-19-2007, 11:57 AM
Order #367, baby!

I'm wondering if by then there will be some blood on my adapter from the hours getting these things assembled ;)

Looking forward to it - Hien and Quyen have hit a gold mine.

-cheno

PaPa
10-19-2007, 12:25 PM
i would love to pick up all my lenses at 1.4 but alas, the price makes this unrealistic. However if my knowledge serves me correct, shooting at 2.0 will produce a sharper image as it is a film photography lens ( stepping down creates sharper images unlike the cine master primes which are made to be open ) so if i just make sure i dont buy anything slower than 2.0 i think i should be a happy camper in all respects.

mind you, i wonder how fast i can go when i get to 105mm and 135mm? I see them mostly at 2.5 and 2.8, what did you end up with DCP ?

Kholi
10-19-2007, 12:26 PM
For what it's worth, the Nikon 24mm f2.0 is a fantastic lens! Here is some footage I recently shot with the HVX, Brevis and 24mm lens (the 24mm lens was used on all wide shots and the crane shot).

www.drawingwithchalkthefilm.com/dwc_demo.html (http://www.drawingwithchalkthefilm.com/dwc_demo.html)


This is quite possibly, personally, the best Brevis footage I've seen. That crane shot is fantastic.

DCP
10-19-2007, 12:37 PM
Kholi,

Thank you so much for your comments. It was a little tough since I only had my DP, my company partner (also one of the actors) and myself (and I'm in the film as well and I'm directing too). I'm really looking forward to the rest of the shoot (spread out over the next 7 months).

disjecta
10-19-2007, 12:40 PM
This is an inevitable question but I'll ask it anyway. Any chance you can post a higher rez version? It's hard to really see the quality of the adapter at this size.

DCP
10-19-2007, 12:53 PM
I will post a higher rez clip. What size would you like?

I won't be able to do it until Sunday (I'm working straight through till tomorrow evening).

disjecta
10-19-2007, 12:55 PM
How about full rez :) I'm only interested in the long shots, not the car interior shots...

Thanks

DCP
10-19-2007, 12:57 PM
I will output the footage as a quicktime file (I'll just match the DVCPRO HD 720p size).

That file up there now is the one I made for my iphone.

Look 1st
10-19-2007, 01:18 PM
something about the Letus Extreme shipping...

disjecta
10-19-2007, 01:27 PM
Sorry, back on topic now...

strancali
10-19-2007, 04:18 PM
Order #367, baby!

I'm wondering if by then there will be some blood on my adapter from the hours getting these things assembled ;)

Looking forward to it - Hien and Quyen have hit a gold mine.

-cheno

Yup they have I am number 368!!!

Ram S.O.S
10-19-2007, 07:30 PM
318 waiting patiently.

cinebuddy
10-19-2007, 07:38 PM
How about full rez :) I'm only interested in the long shots, not the car interior shots...

Thanks

Do you think the Letus is as sharp edge to edge with a 24mm? I know you did'nt have a 24 to test but...

disjecta
10-19-2007, 07:57 PM
It really depends on the lens more than the adapter I've learned over the past couple of years. I have experienced near edge to edge sharpness with the Extreme and the parts that are not tack sharp at the edges are outside the TV safe zone anyway.

Kholi
10-19-2007, 08:04 PM
Sometimes, it's hard to discern whether the lens is doing the dirty work or the adapter. Would the best to test be to attach the best quality to the adapter, in which case say Zeiss SuperSpeed's or something like that? I'd expect to exhibit little-to-no edge loss in comparison to Nikon SLR lenses. At that point, is it safe to judge the adapter's edge-to-edge quality?

Kholi
10-22-2007, 11:38 AM
It's monday. Anyone's shipping yet?

8DFM.com
10-22-2007, 12:01 PM
I was told they're shipping mid-week via FedEx ground (letusdirect.com)....

Other than the wait its been excellent customer service.

This thing is gonna blow up once people start getting theirs. I looked on B&H and they're already offering the Letus line.

jshooter
10-22-2007, 12:08 PM
Yeah, they must be about to ship, Hien just emailed me about my payment. I've had a problem with paypal: although I paid on October 9th and have #304 order, they won't receive money until October 31th, so I'll have to wait for a couple of weeks :(

Regards and enjoy...

Look 1st
10-22-2007, 02:59 PM
I looked on B&H and they're already offering the Letus line.

W0W

Ok, thats really interesting. Looks like Letus is changing the game...

livelikeriley
10-22-2007, 10:01 PM
Why is BH's price jacked up $100

DCP
10-22-2007, 10:17 PM
Not to go off subject again, but I apologize for those waiting to see the footage from the crane shot with the 24mm lens (Brevis). I've been so busy getting ready for my next shoot (and I WAS HOPING that my Letus Extreme would be here; btw I was the second one to order from letusdirect!- ordered Oct. 24th). I am looking forward to the Extreme, but I do have to say that I was extremely pleased with the Brevis.

I will post the Brevis footage (as a new topic) once I get the chance.

I really was hoping that I'd be able to give the Letus Extreme a serious test (crane and dolly shots using from a 24mm lens up to 180mm lens). Next time I'll get the chance.

Todd

DavidChia
10-23-2007, 12:55 AM
Why is BH's price jacked up $100

maybe it inculdes a bracket and a pelican case?

Cory84
10-23-2007, 08:25 AM
I ordered on the morning of 9/23
The next day I got an email from Hien...
quote: "Believe me or not, you are the very first online customer who order the Extreme."

Order #221
hmmm...

Arrik
10-23-2007, 09:54 AM
wow, the letus is being offered at B&H? That's a big move. Good for them. I would have thought RedRock to be the first to hit the shelves of retailers.

Chan Ee Jien
10-24-2007, 09:11 AM
Its already mid week. No news? :(

Kholi
10-24-2007, 09:27 AM
Glad I'm not the only one wondering that.

Running on Five weeks for those whom ordered the first week.

DavidChia
10-24-2007, 09:30 AM
I ordered on the morning of 9/23
The next day I got an email from Hien...
quote: "Believe me or not, you are the very first online customer who order the Extreme."

Order #221
hmmm...

Cory84 will gets his first and then the rest of us...

livelikeriley
10-24-2007, 09:31 AM
I'll add my name to those looking for a mid-week update ;)

Mark.

jshooter
10-24-2007, 09:44 AM
Quoting Aaron from Letus forum:
" There was a small delay with a supplier but everything is ready to go now :)
The frenzy is about to begin!"

It was posted yesterday.

Regards from #304 :P

Kholi
10-24-2007, 10:06 AM
All is grand in the Letus camp. Frenzy will really begin very soon and I'm hyper elated.

DeGrey
10-24-2007, 10:45 AM
Thank you all for your patience. We are as anxious to ship as you are to receive. The Extremes are all but ready to go.

We were waiting on the thumb screws that were supposed to arrive at the end of last week. The good news is they are scheduled to arrive today and the second they do, shipping will begin and email confirmations delivered.

Again, we truly appreciate everyone's patience and we apologize for the delay.

Chan Ee Jien
10-24-2007, 11:00 AM
Cut and paste answer? :laugh:

Anyway glad to see it all sorted out. Its just like Christmas (the present part) all over again.

davidreimers
10-24-2007, 11:07 AM
thanks for the update DeGrey!

DeGrey
10-24-2007, 11:28 AM
Cut and paste answer? :laugh:

Are you making fun of me for posting the exact same message on the LetusDirect.com forum? Hey! It saves time and gets the word out to everyone over there who isn't a member here ;)

PaPa
10-24-2007, 06:18 PM
w00t cant wait, just got my 24mm 2.0 in the mail! now i need a 35mm, 85mm 105mm and a 135mm

anyone gots somethin for me? :)

ifownlee41nite@mac.com
10-24-2007, 06:39 PM
Glad to hear this. I was getting alittle jumpy. I'm counting the hours Degrey:)

BTW, Congrats on the B&H move. That a good look for you guys.

ifownlee41nite@mac.com
10-24-2007, 08:12 PM
Hiens just sent me a messege letting me know that my units is shipping this week also.
I left the messege at around 8:30pm, and he send me a response at 9:00pm.
I wasn't exspecting to hear from anyone til at least the next business day.

Great service Hiens.

PaPa
10-24-2007, 08:38 PM
Hiens just sent me a messege letting me know that my units is shipping this week also.
I left the messege at around 8:30pm, and he send me a response at 9:00pm.
I wasn't exspecting to hear from anyone til at least the next business day.

Great service Hiens.

ditto on that... they are on this customer service thing like a fat kid on birthday cake.. its amazing. truly not used to this.

Taylor Rudd
10-25-2007, 12:04 AM
Oh yeah. I called Hien a while back with a few questions and we talked on the phone for a solid 15 minutes. Not only did he answer my questions, he won me over as a repeat customer for simply caring!

These guys are good. Real good.

Letus
10-25-2007, 01:18 AM
All,

Extreme is shipping. Some of you may already have received the tracking number. We will be shipping in the priority in which the order was received, so please, please don't ask me to jump the line for you :-)

We had a little glitch on shipping of some critical parts, but all is good now. It was not just the screws. Had it only been the screws, I know some of you would rather have me ship it with duct tape and go find the screws yourselves :-)

Thanks for all your support,

Hien

Chan Ee Jien
10-25-2007, 02:12 AM
Fantastic!

:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Has anyone received their tracking no yet?

Chenopup
10-25-2007, 09:28 AM
All righty, I think those of you taking first shipments, take the load off Disjecta's back :) - put the kids to bed early, tell the wife / girlfriend / signifigant other you've got plans, call work, tell em you have spastic colon, whatever... throw on the lenses and get out and shoot - we wanna see it!

disjecta
10-25-2007, 09:30 AM
Yeah, what he said...

PaPa
10-25-2007, 09:32 AM
hehe, yeah still waiting for that tracking number, but im sure it will come.

Taylor Rudd
10-25-2007, 12:32 PM
I'm trying to figure my place in line since I ordered from LetusDirect.com. Their order numbers are 5 digits, not 3.

Aaron, do the Le brothers ship out the LetusDirect orders, too? Or do they ship them to you first?

DeGrey
10-25-2007, 12:56 PM
They will be shipping straight from the Le brothers to save transit time.

livelikeriley
10-25-2007, 01:27 PM
Fantastic news! Just wish the order numbers weren't different (from adapterplace and letusdirect) so that we could figure out who's was shipping when...ah well, let me echo the wonderful support I've gotten from Hien and Aaron. Can't wait to play with this sometime next week (maybe its a good thing it didn't come this week as my entire weekend will be spent installing Leopard - the other product that has made October a hell of a month to get through) ;)

Mark.

tibobjerome
10-25-2007, 06:45 PM
I got my loonnnnggggg awaited email: my shipping tracking info!!! And I should get my 2 pieces of LEX TOMORROW!!!!!!! YOOOOOOOOPPPPIIII!!!!!!!!!!! I was among the very first peopel who ordered the very first morning the Extreme was made available.

Thanks Hien & Quyen!!!

Kholi
10-25-2007, 07:19 PM
Suhweet. Maybe after shooting and editing I'll see a tracking number tomorrow.

cinebuddy
10-25-2007, 07:39 PM
Only one so far?

Taylor Rudd
10-25-2007, 08:42 PM
I got my loonnnnggggg awaited email: my shipping tracking info!!! And I should get my 2 pieces of LEX TOMORROW!!!!!!! YOOOOOOOOPPPPIIII!!!!!!!!!!! I was among the very first peopel who ordered the very first morning the Extreme was made available.

Thanks Hien & Quyen!!!

Lucky. Probably going to be waiting a few days for mine ;) Did you order from adapter place or letus direct?

tibobjerome
10-25-2007, 09:40 PM
Lucky. Probably going to be waiting a few days for mine ;) Did you order from adapter place or letus direct?

Adapter Place. And I called before I ordered.

Funny thing is, I'm a total newbie and had spent weeks and weeks learning so much about DOF and film adapters, comparing all of them available on the market and making my own judgement on the best based on primarily my instinct and so many different feedback from nunerous forums.

I picked the Letus. That morning, I picked up the phone to order the latest one I saw the night before (the Flip or the XL). When I got to the site I saw there was an "Extreme" choice which I didn't see a few hours before.

So, wanting to have the best thing out there, I decided to call the Le brothers so they can convince me to buy that new model just out. The nI was told I'm problably the first or the 3 rd person who would order this morning since only a couple of people know of the Extreme very existence.

Before they could explain anything else to me, I ordered 2 pieces. I'm so excited. I'm gonna partly skip work tomorrow just to welcome my babies.

hienle
10-25-2007, 09:50 PM
Hi Tibobjerome,

I forgot to ship the achromat with your adapters. Can you go to any place and buy one cheap one to use in the mean time. I will send you 1 in a week.

Thanks,

Hien

hienle
10-25-2007, 09:52 PM
Tibobjerome,

Just kidding man, I am so tired, just need a laugh :-) LOL !!!!!!!!

Hien

Chenopup
10-25-2007, 10:27 PM
Oh that was good - yeah - maybe Kmart or Costco would have something - just bust one out of a $15 set of binoculars :)

looking forward to the LEX, Hien. You guys will have earned a good rest after this blitz!

cheno

Cory84
10-25-2007, 11:51 PM
I of course got the email too... I'll have the adapter in my hands tomorrow...
Along with a new cavision shoulder mount, rods, and hand grip. :)

Big Halloween weekend will provide some fun shooting...
Should I go shoot in Vegas or stay in Newport?

Chan Ee Jien
10-26-2007, 01:37 AM
Hi Tibobjerome,

I forgot to ship the achromat with your adapters. Can you go to any place and buy one cheap one to use in the mean time. I will send you 1 in a week.

Thanks,

Hien

Got me there for a second. I thought the achromat was built in. Thats what attracted me to this package

DCP
10-26-2007, 05:49 AM
Just got my tracking info too. I ordered at 11:00 am on September 24th (letusdirect). I was told I was the second one to order.

Will have mine tomorrow!

jshooter
10-26-2007, 06:43 AM
Somene posted first impressions and sample pics: http://www.cinematography.com/forum2004/index.php?showtopic=26750

Regards

p.s. is it me or there's bad glow in the bokeh?

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 07:16 AM
This was dissussed in a forum earlier somewhere from a prerelease model, I thought they promise to redo the G.G to fix the glow or flare for bright lights? Humm it is showing up again.

Also are the Extreme all shipped with the lens mount seperated? Can't they set it for infinty and mount it before shipping away. Saves the trouble to get it done. I'm sure not everyone has a external HD monitor to set the back focus. He say about using gasket material to set it up in future.

I thought the mounts are done to exact back focus length when it fits on the adapter? It going to be tough to make sure it is parallel against the G.G

Can someone form Letus comment on these problems at hand...

jshooter
10-26-2007, 07:25 AM
I don't have external monitor, so i guess i'll have to connect it to my computer to set backfocus :(

DCP
10-26-2007, 07:48 AM
I'm getting my Extreme tomorrow and Sunday will be my testing day. I'll be sure to test a bright light as well (that shot 4 does look strange). I do have an external HD monitor, so I'll give it a shot when adjusting (this is where the new Brevis is great; the micro-collimation ring is fantatsic). Hopefully adjustments won't prove difficult.

tibobjerome
10-26-2007, 07:51 AM
I believe back focus was already pre-adjusted before shipping for the Extreme? Hien? Quyen? DeGrey? Confirmation please.

DeGrey
10-26-2007, 07:52 AM
Yes, back-focus is adjusted before shipping.

Chenopup
10-26-2007, 07:53 AM
I don't have external monitor, so i guess i'll have to connect it to my computer to set backfocus :(

I would recommend this to anyone setting up a 35mm adapter whether you own an external monitor or not - use an HD monitor to set up. Buy, borrow, rent... - the camera LCD just isn't up to par size-wise for critical focus, especially initial set up.

cheno

DCP
10-26-2007, 08:10 AM
Yes, back-focus is adjusted before shipping.

Good to hear. BTW all the guys (including DeGrey at Letusdirect.com have been great in answering questions). I'm curious if (as suggested by others) attaching the Letus Extreme to an adapter ring to protect the HVX's adapter threads will throw off the backfocus. Logic would say yes since it pushes the adapter a few millimeters away from the HVX, but I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

jshooter
10-26-2007, 08:26 AM
As my payment has been unluckily retained by paypal until next week, I'll be reading all kind of initial setup reviews and will discover if i need some kind of adjustement with my hv20 (and 4 stepup rings from 43 to 72) and backfocus. i hope my 720p tv could do the trick.

Regards

Barry_Green
10-26-2007, 08:56 AM
I'm curious if (as suggested by others) attaching the Letus Extreme to an adapter ring to protect the HVX's adapter threads will throw off the backfocus. Logic would say yes since it pushes the adapter a few millimeters away from the HVX, but I guess I'll find out tomorrow.
No, it won't. There are two areas of focus, the backfocus that's being discussed is related to the distance between the 35mm lens and the ground glass. That one can be set precisely, and is set at the factory.

Then there's the focus between your HVX and the ground glass. That one you have to manually set any time you mount the adapter. Whether there's a step-down ring or filter ring in the way won't make any difference -- I mean, it'll change the focus point you set, but so what? You have to set the right focus point anyway (and it's easy enough to do, just point the ground glass at a light and press "autofocus" and it'll do it for you).

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 09:17 AM
Yes, back-focus is adjusted before shipping.

You mean the back focus is set and the lens mount will be set on the adapter before shipping, and it doesn't come in 3 pieces like the one the guy got in the review.

I have to ask. How is the back focus done with the Letus in the factory? Is the lens mount sitting flat on the adapter and then you adjust the G.G to set the focus or is the G.G in a fix position and then the mount is adjusted to set the focus.

Because I find it really hard to set the lens mount parallel to the G.G if it is not sitting flat on the adapter. Is the G.G fix and the mount is build that it sits flatly on the adapter and it gives the correct back focus length of that type of lens mount.

Because if I keep changing lens mount for my Nikon or Canon lens. I would like to know that when i place the lens mount flatly of the adapter, back focus is instanly attain. If I have to adjust the lens mount to set back focus. I not so confident that I will be able to make it parallel to the G.G. It will be close but not perfect.

jshooter
10-26-2007, 09:17 AM
No, it won't. There are two areas of focus, the backfocus that's being discussed is related to the distance between the 35mm lens and the ground glass. That one can be set precisely, and is set at the factory.

Then there's the focus between your HVX and the ground glass. That one you have to manually set any time you mount the adapter. Whether there's a step-down ring or filter ring in the way won't make any difference -- I mean, it'll change the focus point you set, but so what? You have to set the right focus point anyway (and it's easy enough to do, just point the ground glass at a light and press "autofocus" and it'll do it for you).

Thanks for clarifying, Barry

tibobjerome
10-26-2007, 09:26 AM
Thanks Barry & DeGrey!

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 09:40 AM
How about the G.G that we getting? will the new G.G comes with no flare or glow problems or does it come with that problem like the per- release unit?

If you look closely at picture 2, the head lights also has some flare not just no picture 4

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23787/1193414352.jpg

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 10:17 AM
even the Letus economy seem to show a glow around lights,

Check this low light still by the Letus economy taken from

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=112445&highlight=economy&page=2

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/23787/1193415863.jpg

DCP
10-26-2007, 10:25 AM
Thanks for clarifying, Barry

Ditto!

Kholi
10-26-2007, 11:06 AM
I'm not sure if what you're looking at, David, is a product of the adapter at all. I think it's the lens.

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 11:11 AM
Lets hope it is the lens . and not the G.G, I would like to see more pictures taken by Letus economy users and hopefully soon from Extreme users when it hits the road...

disjecta
10-26-2007, 11:13 AM
It is possible that this is the GG from the pre-production model. There is a different one being used in the final shipping version. Just hold tight for a few days and see what others are posting. I should have a final version tomorrow and will be shooting some more tests on Sunday.

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 11:16 AM
Great can't wait for the report.

But the Letus economy still is from a commercial unit. I really hope it is something to do with the lenses use and hopefully the back focus I ask early is fix too....



Originally Posted by DeGrey
Yes, back-focus is adjusted before shipping.

By DavidChia
You mean the back focus is set and the lens mount will be set on the adapter before shipping, and it doesn't come in 3 pieces like the one the guy got in the review.

I have to ask. How is the back focus done with the Letus in the factory? Is the lens mount sitting flat on the adapter and then you adjust the G.G to set the focus or is the G.G in a fix position and then the mount is adjusted to set the focus.

Because I find it really hard to set the lens mount parallel to the G.G if it is not sitting flat on the adapter. Is the G.G fix and the mount is build that it sits flatly on the adapter and it gives the correct back focus length of that type of lens mount.

Because if I keep changing lens mount for my Nikon or Canon lens. I would like to know that when i place the lens mount flatly of the adapter, back focus is instanly attain. If I have to adjust the lens mount to set back focus. I not so confident that I will be able to make it parallel to the G.G. It will be close but not perfect.

tibobjerome
10-26-2007, 12:37 PM
I got my 2 pieces of Extreme. GREAT LOOK!!! It litteraly took me 2-3 minutes to have everything ready to be mounted on the camera and rails. And I am the newbiest of all newbies in this shpere.

Since I have to go back to work, I'll set up everything with the camera later.

But solid piece of work, smooth design and the look is very professional. The batteries slot is very clever. Everything looks compelling. I just need to try it on the camera.

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 12:40 PM
Great, Please show some still that has lights in the background. I'm really interested in know the results. Just to see if it has glow or flare like the pictures shown above...

PaPa
10-26-2007, 12:40 PM
I got my 2 pieces of Extreme. GREAT LOOK!!! It litteraly took me 2-3 minutes to have everything ready to be mounted on the camera and rails. And I am the newbiest of all newbies in this shpere.

Since I have to go back to work, I'll set up everything with the camera later.

But solid piece of work, smooth design and the look is very professional. The batteries slot is very clever. Everything looks compelling. I just need to try it on the camera.

how exactly are you mounting your letus extreme on rails? I have seen one setup but am still slightly confused how to go about this?

DCP
10-26-2007, 12:46 PM
I'll be mounting the Extreme with rails I bought from Cinevate (Brevis). The camera mount is height adjustable, plus the tripod plate is adjustable up and down the rails (great for adjusting balance on the tripod).

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 12:49 PM
It is possible that this is the GG from the pre-production model. There is a different one being used in the final shipping version. Just hold tight for a few days and see what others are posting. I should have a final version tomorrow and will be shooting some more tests on Sunday.

I checked it out. The Review was done with the commercial Letus extreme. The pictures on his site shows the Letus Logo infront and the RED LED gone to the back. So I really hope it is the the lens that he is using that is causing the flare and glow...

jshooter
10-26-2007, 01:17 PM
hmmm, i hope it's the lens too, but I kind of doubt it.
Enough, let's wait, we'll have hundreds of samples this weekend!

Regards

Ryan E. Walters
10-26-2007, 04:22 PM
So I've spent the better part of this morning testing out the updated Letus, and I am even more impressed then I was before. Everyone who has had to wait for their Letus- let me tell you it will have been worth the wait! You are getting a unit that is about on the same level as the P&S Technic. (I would say that they have passed the P&S Technic, but I am waiting on the PL mount so that I can see them side by side and compare apples to apples.)

Anyway if you would like to download all of the full res test stills as well as the sample video you can get all of them here for your own evaluation and review:
http://www.235studios.com/LetusExtremeShip.zip (18MB)

What you will be getting with this updated adapter:


-Light loss: 1/2 Stop (Down just over 1/6 of a stop)
Having a wave form monitor at my disposal, I was able to more accurately gage the light loss. While you can gage the light loss using a light meter (Which is what I did before) the results are less accurate.

For this test what I did was to set up a white card and expose it so that the wave form was a straight line at 50 IRE with the HVX bare of any adapter. I then attached the adapter without and lens. I then attached the adapter and saw that the line had droped below 50IRE. VERY, VERY, VERY, slowly and carefully I used the iris on the HVX to open the exposure until it was back at 50 IRE. The HVX will let you adjust in 1/6 increments before the number on the display changes. So I had to open up 3 clicks, or 3 x 1/6 = 1/2.

I repeated the same test for the previous version that I have and it comes in at somewhere between 4/6 and 5/6. (4/6 was too low, and 5/6 was to high on the waveform)


-Back Focus: Is Spot On
This is not really a change- but I did double check to see that the current model is correct. Using the rail support (which is where you attach your tape measure), I could accurately measure out the distances from the film plane.
**Note: I did notice a difference between my Nikon Lens and the Zeiss Lens. However I think this is due to the quality of the lens. The Zeiss lens has its numbers spaced out more evenly (for an SLR lens) then the Nikon does, so at 2' 10" the nikon felt a little more off then the Zeiss did. Measure out your focus marks is important, but it is more difficult to do on an SLR that wasn't deigned for this kind of application. This will be more useful when using a cinema lens. But it is good to know that the back focus was correct.


-Resolution / Sharpness: Increased
The edge to edge sharpness was increased, and overall everything appears sharper. A lot of the sharpness of your image will depend on the quality of lens that you use. The higher the quality, the sharper your images will be. (You'll get what you pay for.)

THE OLD LETUS EXTREME- HVX is at 2.8, Zeiss 50mm Lens is at 5.6:
http://www.235studios.com/OldLetus-Zeiss50mm.jpg

THE NEW LETUS EXTREME - HVX is at 2.8 Zeiss 50mm Lens is at 5.6
http://www.235studios.com/NewLetus-Zeiss50mm.jpg

THE NEW LETUS EXTREME - HVX is at 2.8 Nikon 50mm Lens is at 5.6
http://www.235studios.com/NewLetus-Nikon50mm.jpg


-Bokeh
Having read various back and forth thoughts on this subject, I thought that I would put up some sample images as well as a sample video. The video file is in the Zip file if you downloaded it. Otherwise it is here:

RIGHT CLICK - SAVE AS - PLEASE
http://www.235studios.com/LetusExtreme-BokehTest-REW.mov

Below you can also see a sample still of another bokeh test. Bokeh is an interesting thing- from the appearance of the bokeh from my tests I am very happy / pleased with it. I think that the lens you are using on the adapter has a bigger impact on the bokeh then the actual adapter does. So I'm not intirely convinced that any adapter plays a huge part in creating the look of the bokeh. When I am looking at Bokeh, I am looking for smooth corners, something that resembles a circle as much as possible- as that is a more natural shape to the eye, and it looks like what I see when I observe out of focus lights in every day life. Beyond that as long as it looks good to me, I'm happy. And I think that the Letus Extreme delivers. I like how the bokeh apprears on this adapter- and again, the quality of the lens seems to have a biiger part in this then the actual adapter does.

One last thought on Bokeh- while I may favor circular Bokeh, it all has to be kept in perspective. We are telling stories after all, and if someone is stoping your film and freeze framing it to complain about the bokeh, then you've lost them WAY before that point. If you have a good story it will keep the viewer interested, and they will not even notice if you have octogon shaped bokeh. Sometimes I wonder if we get to caught up in the tech side of things, when we should be worring more about the story side of the equasion.... anyway I digress- here is the still:

Comparison Bokeh:
http://www.235studios.com/Bokeh-TestSM.jpg

Stills from the video:
http://www.235studios.com/BokehTest01.jpg
http://www.235studios.com/BokehTest02.jpg

Hope this has been helpful to you. Now get out there a shoot!

TimurCivan
10-26-2007, 04:28 PM
that zeiss lens is really warm.

Cool info.

Ryan E. Walters
10-26-2007, 04:32 PM
that zeiss lens is really warm.

Cool info.

Yeah- I was switching back and forth between the Nikon and the Zeiss so much that i forgot to rewhite balance each time. So I think that would have brought it back in line with the temp of the Nikon (Which I had white balanced for.).

DavidChia
10-26-2007, 04:34 PM
How about the Bokeh that handles the light buld. I like to see the light bulb blured and the figure in focus. The glow seems to come from the blurred background not the focus subject in the review from http://cinematography.com/forum2004/index.php?showtopic=26750

like a night scene where the actor is in focus and the distance lights are in the background.

augenblick
10-27-2007, 04:23 AM
HEUREKA

My two Extremes (Order #241) are shipping. Just got the e-mail. Yesssss!

Peter

Chenopup
10-27-2007, 08:12 AM
How about the Bokeh that handles the light buld.

I think we're getting a bit too antsy and critical at this point - I'm sure the footage is coming but more and more I realize that you're not going to sell me 100% on still images - was watching Transformers last night (live action) and there was a shot with a couple of cars where the bokeh appeared very close to what Tim had posted - I'm going to try to grab some screen shots today - What I would like to see is some movement to the images not just screen grabs, but then again, let's give everyone getting these in the next few days some time to get us some more footage.

Patience, people...

Ryan E. Walters
10-27-2007, 08:24 AM
What I would like to see is some movement to the images not just screen grabs, but then again, let's give everyone getting these in the next few days some time to get us some more footage.

Patience, people...

I did provide a link to the footage that has the stills frames in it, and the quicktime file is in the zip file that i linked to as well. Hopefully that will be more helpful to you.

Anyway, until I see all of the adapters side by side using the same lens and same scene, I still think that the lens has a bigger impack on the bokeh then the adapter. (Although I could be wrong, as it has happened before....) :)

DCP
10-27-2007, 08:37 AM
I just want to thanks to Ryan for supplying this detailed review. I was supposed to get my Extreme today (FedEx kinda screwed up) so I look forward to giving it a run through too.

Thanks again Ryan. I know how hard it is to find the time to do this kind of review and we want you to know it's much appreciated.

Todd

Chenopup
10-27-2007, 09:07 AM
"I did provide a link to the footage that has the stills frames in it, and the quicktime file is in the zip file that i linked to as well. Hopefully that will be more helpful to you."

Sorry, Ryan - I wasn't referring to your footage - yours looked really, really good - thanks for that link and the stills - I was referring to Tim Tyler's initial post that has a few panicking about the bokeh with light highlights - One image just isn't going to show everything the adapter is capable of, hence your suggestion that a good lens makes all the difference.

-cheno

Ducatimark
10-27-2007, 09:19 AM
Rec'd me email for order 233. FedEx says it should be here by next Friday. Just in time for the weekend!

I'm just about eight months into my new business of shooting webmercials and providing video and presentation content typically for manufacturers. I've also got two DVD projects that I have started that are both educational series. I look forward to using the Letus on those.

Not living in the hotbed of moviemaking, it would be nearly impossible to start a business like mine without having originially been in broadcasting or worked for another vendor. I left the corporate world to pursue something I was passionate about and have put my money (okay, credit cards) where my heart is.

I have never seen any industry where so many individuals across the world are so willing to share information and help those like myself that otherwise would probably fail for lack of good help. My introduction to this was meeting Barry Green at GVExpo in DC last year where he convinced me that going P2 and the HVX was the way to go. Not with a sales pitch, but with an honest willingness to share his knowledge, just as he does here everyday on this site.

Sincere thanks to all you professionals that watch this board and answer all the crazy questions us new guys throw at you. I hope that I will be able to do the same as my experience grows.

Mark G
www.newmediadevcorp.com (http://www.newmediadevcorp.com)

DavidChia
10-27-2007, 05:49 PM
"
Sorry, Ryan - I wasn't referring to your footage - yours looked really, really good - thanks for that link and the stills - I was referring to Tim Tyler's initial post that has a few panicking about the bokeh with light highlights - One image just isn't going to show everything the adapter is capable of, hence your suggestion that a good lens makes all the difference.

-cheno
I really hope that a good lens will make the difference.

I hope that that the Nikon that I use with my BREVIS , Go35pro, wdr35pro that shows no sighs of flare in the brokeh will not have flare when it is hook up with the Extreme . Because I can't go and change my whole set of lenses to zeiss lenes so that there won't be flare . If that is the case, the Extreme is really extremely expensive to maintain.

Kholi
10-27-2007, 05:59 PM
It's a good thing that you have plenty of other options to choose from, huh?

Ryan E. Walters
10-28-2007, 01:17 AM
Thanks again Ryan. I know how hard it is to find the time to do this kind of review and we want you to know it's much appreciated.

Todd

Thanks Todd, I'm glad you appreciate it. I'm always glad to help out the community. :)

Ryan E. Walters
10-28-2007, 01:19 AM
Sorry, Ryan - I wasn't referring to your footage

No problem. :)

DavidChia
10-28-2007, 04:42 AM
It's a good thing that you have plenty of other options to choose from, huh?

What I meant was that I used to have some of those adapters mentioned and the lens that I was using with them doesn't show ghosting and flare. And If the same lens that I will be using on the letus extreme is going to give me ghosting and flare, do you thik it is because the lens I'm using is lousy ? and that I have to get a zeiss Lens so that ghosting and flare doesn't show up.

What about the still shot of the Letus Economy? It is also showing some king of ghosting and flare. Am I the only one here that is finding this an issue?

Both of the stills of the Extreme and economy shows some kind of ghosting and flare. And they are not pre version. They are both commercial units.

So I'm really hoping to wait for those of you that have recieved the extreme or even those who have been shooting with the economy for the last few weeks to show more stills or even shorts of how the G.G performes with night time footage where there is light in the background.

I belive that a good lens do make a difference, But how many of us can afford a Cooke lens ?


Just for your info Tim also did another set of still that were done in the day, The shoots were intentionally over-exposed , but he has a Tru-Pol polarizer in the matte box , mainly to cut down the light since he didn't have any ND's handy. He also reset all the HVX scene parameters to "0" with the gamma to "norm" and matrix to "norm". (The shots from yesterday were Cinelike V / Cinelike.)

http://timtyler.net/extreme-test-2.zip


And of couse, our one and only disjecta just recently also posted a short clip of his commercial Letus extreme which also shows sign of ghosting and flare. See the thread:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=113983

Kholi
10-28-2007, 11:57 AM
What about the still shot of the Letus Economy? It is also showing some king of ghosting and flare. Am I the only one here that is finding this an issue?



Yes.

I may be wrong, but bokeh is affected more-so by your lens than it is the adapter. I'm pretty sure as the adapters get better, they expose the flaws of using SLR lenses on these cameras more-so than before.

That's my theory.

Matty_g
10-28-2007, 12:12 PM
different gg's will effect the rendition of the bokeh.

Kholi
10-28-2007, 12:14 PM
Which one more-so, though? In SLR lens comparisons, Lenses tend to differ drastically in bokeh rendition. I haven't see anything so drastic in say M2 vs SGpro when the same lens is used.

Matty_g
10-28-2007, 12:18 PM
I've been using a lot of the brevis with clf1 and my sgpro rev2 and there is a difference.
I believe there is a difference between the sgpro gg and the m2 cinescreen also but it is more slight.

Kholi
10-28-2007, 12:24 PM
Oh okay that's probably why, then. Thanks for re-educating.

Chan Ee Jien
10-28-2007, 07:03 PM
Anyone who ordered end of last month (mine was on the Sep 29th) received their tracking order yet?


I wonder if the flare problem does eventually come down to the gg, would it be possible to change them ourselves?

ifownlee41nite@mac.com
10-28-2007, 09:45 PM
Anyone who ordered end of last month (mine was on the Sep 29th) received their tracking order yet?

Just got mine today from Adapter Place & a shipping statement from USPS.



I wonder if the flare problem does eventually come down to the gg, would it be possible to change them ourselves?

I see what a very few people are talking about, but I see that type of Bokeh all the time in movies shot with film. Can't wait to get the thing and experiment with it myself.

Dennis Wood
10-28-2007, 10:01 PM
There are two critical factors in bokeh rendering and each has nearly equal weight:

1. The lens itself, and perhaps more imporantly, what f-stop is being used!

2. The GG itself (which we call the imaging element). A risky way to get better light efficiency is to reduce diffusion, which carries with it a selection of problems in terms of acurate film bokeh rendition, ghosting, flaring etc.

There is no one magic bullet (pun intended) when it comes to adapters. Furthermore, what works well at f1.4 may be unusable at f5.6. It's a very subjective topic so what looks good to one person will be unacceptable to another...and that's we have the CF interchangeable imaging elements.

hienle
10-28-2007, 10:42 PM
All,

Bokeh is art. I completely agree that one may love it, one might find it unacceptable. We think we have found a good balance. We DO NOT want to let user change the GG in the middle of the shoot if they want good bokeh, or if they want less grain, or if they want if they want better light loss. Doing this, you may invite dust in the process. You will be shock how fine the dust before they show up on your footage, because this is the plane of focus. There is nothing easier to let user doing this, but we have decided not to do it. Dust is only small problem (though it is huge problem). The main problem is you have to constantly change the GG during the shoot if you don't have a balanced system. We own the bokeh, we can make it whatever we want it to look. We have complete control over what you hold in your hand, the Extreme.

One more thing that Ryan has ruin my surprise. We found more light in the version that we released. Just want to tell you when you have in your hands. But Ryan, you spoiled it. It would've been a good selling point. But we chose to have fun through surprise, but again, Ryan, man, you!!! :-)

Thanks for the huge support of the Extreme!!!!

Thanks,

Hien

reem12
10-28-2007, 11:14 PM
Thank you heinle for being so down to earth and the wonderful customer service you guys have offered me in the trade in of my letus fe and the purchase of letus ex.your bokeh is gorgeous.

Kholi
10-28-2007, 11:14 PM
Yeah Ryan totally RUINED it for you. =P I got my tracking number, WOOO HOOOOO.

LuckyStudio 13
10-29-2007, 12:15 AM
Kholi, u lucky lil @#$@#$@#$ u. U better put up some footage from the hvx ASAP

Kholi
10-29-2007, 12:23 AM
I will I will! Hope to have it by thursday, so by Friday I can have up some HVX footages.

reem12
10-29-2007, 12:29 AM
hi ko;i,what day did you order yours,if you don't mine me asking?

Kholi
10-29-2007, 09:39 AM
I have to go n'dig it up. However, those who are ordering now should be seeing theres much sooner than those of us that ordered earlier.

I believe the turn-around, now that all assets seem to be in place, is a solid 2-3 weeks. PM Hien to get the most accurate info, but they're sending them out of the door swiftly.

chameloon
10-29-2007, 09:48 AM
I ordered my Extreme this weekend with #21322...Does it mean 20000+ orders have to be processed first ? :)

grey-apple
10-29-2007, 09:57 AM
my order id is #21265 and maybe this week they ship me

Chenopup
10-29-2007, 10:17 AM
It looks like the "21" portion of the order number is Letus Direct's code on top of Adapter Place's 3 digit code - I'm guessing you guys are 265 and 322 respectfully.

Then again I could be wrong :)

cheno

DeGrey
10-29-2007, 10:21 AM
The numbers between AdapterPlace and LetusDirect are actually un-related.
AdapterPlace uses sequential 3 digit order numbers
LetusDirect uses 5 digit order numbers (not necessarily sequential).

Chan Ee Jien
10-30-2007, 07:16 AM
:2vrolijk_08:


Maybe we should just mention the dates we ordered for easier universal reference.

Mine was ordered on Sept 29th. Its supposed to ship on Tuesday (I think its Tuesday in USA now :cheesy:). Stalking my gmail now :kali:


Cinevate carbon rails came in yesterday. Just waiting for its soulmate to come now LOL

Tim Naylor
10-30-2007, 11:33 AM
Glass makes all the difference.
Took the plunge and purchased a Nikon 35 1.4 and an 85 1.4. It's like having a new system. It's more than a stop I purchased. The sharpness and contrast is amazing. The bokeh on the 85mm is precious. Will post in the coming week.

Ryan E. Walters
10-30-2007, 12:01 PM
Glass makes all the difference.
Took the plunge and purchased a Nikon 35 1.4 and an 85 1.4. It's like having a new system. It's more than a stop I purchased. The sharpness and contrast is amazing. The bokeh on the 85mm is precious. Will post in the coming week.

True - true. I'm looking forward to seeing the 35 and especially the 85 in action!

jshooter
10-30-2007, 12:07 PM
Having 17-35 f2.8 and 50 f1.4, I also look forward to seeing that 85 in action...

Barry_Green
10-30-2007, 12:25 PM
Okay, just been notified that our Letus Extreme/HVX Hallows Fest film is going to be included. It's not in competition, it's exhibition only because the film can't be cut to fit the runtime restrictions, so it's just for exhibition.

But hey, it's HVX footage with the Letus Extreme, so...

(oh, one other thing: it was shot by Macgregor.) :thumbsup:

Kholi
10-30-2007, 12:26 PM
Glass makes all the difference.
Took the plunge and purchased a Nikon 35 1.4 and an 85 1.4. It's like having a new system. It's more than a stop I purchased. The sharpness and contrast is amazing. The bokeh on the 85mm is precious. Will post in the coming week.

Did you order a Letus EX, Naylor?

Chan Ee Jien
10-30-2007, 07:09 PM
Okay, just been notified that our Letus Extreme/HVX Hallows Fest film is going to be included. It's not in competition, it's exhibition only because the film can't be cut to fit the runtime restrictions, so it's just for exhibition.

But hey, it's HVX footage with the Letus Extreme, so...

(oh, one other thing: it was shot by Macgregor.) :thumbsup:

Sounds good. I always look forward to anything shot by him :)

Kholi
10-30-2007, 08:46 PM
Well it's F'ing official.

From The Hallows Fest short... the LEtus EX in good hands is the shiz.

Thursday, I ascend.

ifownlee41nite@mac.com
10-30-2007, 09:35 PM
Its here!!!! It is a very solid piece of work. Will be shooting this weekend.

ecking
10-30-2007, 09:49 PM
Okay, just been notified that our Letus Extreme/HVX Hallows Fest film is going to be included. It's not in competition, it's exhibition only because the film can't be cut to fit the runtime restrictions, so it's just for exhibition.

But hey, it's HVX footage with the Letus Extreme, so...

(oh, one other thing: it was shot by Macgregor.) :thumbsup:

That i going to look NUTS.

Barry_Green
10-30-2007, 11:56 PM
It's live now, it's "Little Mouth To Feed".

TheRealMe
10-31-2007, 08:36 AM
Wow! Best footage from the LEX yet! No question, the potential to create incredible images with the HVX/LEX combo is now here!

Can't wait to get mine!

Chan Ee Jien
10-31-2007, 09:06 AM
Yes!!! Just received my tracking order :D:D:D

Well Kholi, you now have samples of HVX/Letus footage ;)

Kholi
10-31-2007, 10:10 AM
I know! Ultra satisfieid. I was hoping that the HVX would look just as good as the A1 and it does. My LEX arrives tomorrow!! wee.

disjecta
10-31-2007, 10:15 AM
My LEX arrives tomorrow!! wee.

Thank god, sheesh!

:Drogar-Evil(DBG):

Kholi
10-31-2007, 10:20 AM
Oh WHATEVER. Can't blame me for being overtly "interested" in the product. That's what you get for posting great footage in the first place.

PFFFT I'm going to play with my sand shovel.

reem12
10-31-2007, 10:27 AM
Barry,tell me you were just kidding about that short being shot with the hvx/letus combo.I mean it looks like an exact replica of film.I hope my a1 looks as filmic with the extreme as that short does.

disjecta
10-31-2007, 10:31 AM
Develop excellent cinematography skills, an excellent knowledge of lighting, good set design, great looking actors, etc., etc., and you will be able to make it look as good with the A1 :)

Chan Ee Jien
10-31-2007, 10:45 AM
The same goes for any camera :)

DCP
10-31-2007, 11:26 AM
Barry,

Excellent film. As far as everyone's concern about the Extreme's image, take a look at this film and see for yourself.

Barry_Green
10-31-2007, 11:29 AM
Barry,tell me you were just kidding about that short being shot with the hvx/letus combo.I mean it looks like an exact replica of film.I hope my a1 looks as filmic with the extreme as that short does.

That was shot by Macgregor on an HVX200 using the Letus Extreme and some Nikon lenses. No doubt, the adapter holds up on its end of the bargain. Now, it's not all because of an adapter, of course, but as adapters go I'm very, very happy with how the Extreme performed, I think it really delivered.

The credit for the look of the film is only partly due to the adapter, most of it is due to the art direction, Macgregor's cinematography, and the post color grading. You have to have excellence in all those categories. But the Extreme definitely helped take what would have been an otherwise great-looking short, and raised it up by giving it the depth of film.

ProjX v2.0
10-31-2007, 11:32 AM
Barry, was the Extreme used on every shot in the film or only some?

Chenopup
10-31-2007, 11:41 AM
Also, Barry. I'd be interested in whether you have photos of MacGregor's rig? Would be nice to see how people are using the LEX since there have been so few rig photos thus far.

cheno

Barry_Green
10-31-2007, 11:41 AM
I think it was every shot, IIRC. There may have been a case where we took it off but I can't think of any shot where we did.

Barry_Green
10-31-2007, 11:42 AM
Also, Barry. I'd be interested in whether you have photos of MacGregor's rig? Would be nice to see how people are using the LEX since there have been so few rig photos thus far.

cheno

I'm sure David has something, but it wasn't Mac's rig, it was my HVX with the prototype LEX on the front. Nothing special, just screwed straight into the lens threads...

Chenopup
10-31-2007, 12:13 PM
I pm'd David - thanks!

Great film. Great Look. I'm not sure why anyone would whine about this adapter :)

cheno

Taylor Rudd
10-31-2007, 12:14 PM
Just got my shipping notice - order date 9/28

reem12
10-31-2007, 12:19 PM
Barry,i'm going to be perfectly honest.after seeing this footage and how artistcly it was shot, for a brief moment i thought about hanging up my camera.i now no i have a ton of work ahead of me.mcgreggor is one of the best cinematogrhers i've seen on this forum.

DeGrey
10-31-2007, 01:06 PM
Wow. That was great!
Lighting, set design, acting, framing, story.... all VERY well done. Simply amazing.

davidreimers
10-31-2007, 01:09 PM
Second that. really great work in every aspect.

Leo Versola
10-31-2007, 03:10 PM
YES! After an 'Extreme' amount of anticipation, my adapter finally arrived via Fedex! My official position was #4 at LetusDirect and I had ordered it on 9/24.

Quick observations:

1) Tight and well-packaged shipping
2) Etched logo is nice; more subtle than the printed one
3) Yes, it's rather heavy but nicely and sturdily built
4) Yes, the rubber caps can fall off quite easily
5) Magnetic battery cover holder works very well


That's it for now; will post pictures of my setup after I get everything put together tonight. Just need my external monitor and follow focus (arriving hopefully sometime in November) and the shooting rig will be complete.

Stay tuned for test footage; hopefully by the end of this week.

Cheers and patience out to those who still wait...

Look 1st
10-31-2007, 03:26 PM
Barry Green, Thank you for that. I know alot of people put alot of hard work into that short film. And it shows.

Knowing this was shot with the pre-production model of the Letus Extreme only makes me even MORE happy with my purchase.
Any improvements in quality with the production versions are just gravy on the turkey at this point :D

dont know if this was asked already or not, but is there a higher rez version that will be available for download? Id love to see this at 720

Barry_Green
10-31-2007, 07:07 PM
mcgreggor is one of the best cinematogrhers i've seen on this forum.
I agree -- that's why we hired him for this production. We tried to put together the best of DVXUser here: the best cinematographer (Mac), the best director (Jack), the best camera (the HVX) and the best adapter (the Extreme). Very happy with how it turned out.

Barry_Green
10-31-2007, 07:09 PM
dont know if this was asked already or not, but is there a higher rez version that will be available for download? Id love to see this at 720
It was shot in 1080/24pA. Don't know if Jack'll be posting a higher-res version or not, but you'll definitely be seeing a lot more of this production and our other one (coming soon: The Unawakening).

taormina
10-31-2007, 10:42 PM
Barry - NICE!

What lights did you use?

The only other thing I wanted to know is how you made the preg test go positive....just kidding.

No, seriously. How'dya do it?

Barry_Green
11-01-2007, 02:27 PM
We mainly used my CaseLites and B&M tungsten fresnels; most every shot was keyed with a caselite. The exterior shots through the fog were usually handled by a 575w HMI.

As for the pregnancy test -- we tossed around the idea of asking a pregnant friend to... well, water the stick, but Jack had a better (and far more tactful) solution -- a little wizardry in post!

Kholi
11-01-2007, 07:47 PM
Man. I finally got to come home and open the box.

This thing is built FORD TOUGH. Whoever said it was competing with stock lens wasn't joking. Footages very soon. Must figure out a thing or two.

Setup was easy, by the way. Just don't dump your box til you know you have ALL of the parts out of it.

Suhweeeeet.

LuckyStudio 13
11-01-2007, 08:19 PM
Barry,

If it wasnt "exhibition only" it certainly will win the whole thing.

Barry_Green
11-01-2007, 09:02 PM
Thanks for saying so! We're happy with how it turned out. Keep an eye out for our other pic, "The Unawakening" (but that wasn't shot with an adapter).

reem12
11-02-2007, 11:23 AM
It's here! my adapter is finaly here.first off I'll start about by saying the letus company could have charged a whole lot more for this work of art than they did and told everyone to like it.but they built an adapter to me,that is 10 times that of there past ones, with a price and built in my opinion better then all their counter parts.thanks letus for having the poor indi guys in mind and not just being greedy.I inticipate this adapter becoming the indi standard very soon.Oh did i mention the image quality and detail is nonthing short freaky.Thanks again guys.Oh one more thing which is in my opinio the most important.I was able to get good a image in my apartment with only availabe light.

Kholi
11-02-2007, 11:29 AM
I am in the boat with Reem. This thing is utterly amazing. It feels VERY expensive, it LOOKS very expensive and the image I'm getting out of it is stellar.

I did the SAME thing that Reem did, walked around with a 50mm @ F4 and a 135mm at 2.8 in my apartment and I could get a usable (but perhaps not acceptable in cinematic terms) image.

I dunno if this is regularly standard with the adapters, however, I am able to pop and zoom from 27.3 feet and on to the end of the HVX lens without losing focus. I couldn't do that on my M2 at all. Again, dunno if it was just my adapter, but this one can do it and it's tight.

On bokeh halo: I found that I only see it when I use a lens wide open... closed down to 2.8 and on, it's not there. My Bokeh looks very similar to what I got on the M2. To add to that, indoors I could get to 5.6 on the lens before seeing the ground glass, so I suspect you may be able to reach an 8 outdoors or with plenty of light no problem. Anything below 5.6 is a cake walk. I do wish that I could get to nearly a closed lens just as well, for action work and such but there's always taking the adapter off and opening the iris wide for that stuff.

The best purchase I've made outside of the HVX itself.

strancali
11-02-2007, 12:04 PM
kholi and reem, footage please :)

Kholi
11-02-2007, 12:10 PM
I brought my cam to work, I'll have some macro footage, outdoors day and night at the baseball field and park. Will try to get up 720p versions tonight.

DeGrey
11-02-2007, 12:11 PM
Reem and Kholi,
Thanks for the kind words. Glad you like the Extremes and we are looking forward to seeing what you produce with them!

disjecta
11-02-2007, 12:11 PM
Yeah, payback's a bitch, Kholi... LOL :)

Kholi
11-02-2007, 12:15 PM
Yeah, payback's a bitch, Kholi... LOL :)

Hey!!!! ... Yeah I guess you're right. LOL

At least I'm not the only one with an EX, now. So we can share the payback.

Leo Versola
11-02-2007, 12:44 PM
Yes, I am getting to f8 outdoors in sunlight with great results and even f11 without terribly objectionable grain. Just need to zoom in a bit to reduce some vignetting.

Low light performance has been fabulous but focusing on a tiny screen with such razor thin DOF, even with peaking and focus-assist has proven challenging; definitely need an external monitor.

The 'oily' smear as Phil Bloom describes it, only happens wide-open and even then I've only been able to reproduce it in contrasty conditions with bright, sharp sources of light behind the subject. Stopping down reduces/eliminates it.

Very little CA, and again, I only see it slightly in very high contrast conditions.

I've cleared my weekend to test shoot as much as possible before using it on a couple of projects but I'm 'extremely' happy with it during the little time I've had it so far.

I'd like to congratulate the Le's for producing an awesome product and I'm thrilled to see 35mm adapter vendors are pushing the technology bars higher and higher for us to enjoy and profit from.

I'd also like to thank DeGrey/Aaron/LetusDirect for his excellent customer service and communication throughout.

Dmitry Yun
11-02-2007, 12:51 PM
Now if we could only have as many people trying to work on a cheaper HD LCD monitor solution that'd be great :P I can't afford one of those for the life of me now with the house mortgage :( Anyone need a kidney?...I'm O positive :P

reem12
11-02-2007, 12:55 PM
Like koli and leo,at wide open om my 85mm there is a little smear as phillip mention but closed down just a touch it becomes a non issue and as a matter of fact on my canon a1 with the extreme even at wide open it's noting to be concerned about.I've owned the m2 and sgpro which i sold a week after i recieved it in favor of the letus product and let me tell you,after playing with the extreme this one will not be in the market place anytime soon.Absolutely no vignetting and razor sharp edge to edge.footage coming soon.

Leo Versola
11-02-2007, 01:01 PM
How about a sub $1K HD 1280x768 10.6" one? With HDMI input no less...

http://www.boacinema.com/projects/lcd_monitor/index.htm
http://www.boacinema.com/projects/lcd_monitor/update1.htm

I'm already waiting in another line ;-)

Kholi
11-02-2007, 01:02 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing that. It only took me going from 1.8 to 2 on the Nikon 50mm to snap the smear away. And at that, it wasn't even bothering me at 1.8. I'd like to think it's a rare occasion that people use their lenses wide open.

livelikeriley
11-02-2007, 01:20 PM
Woo-hoo! My extreme has shipped! (Ordered Oct. 3rd)...Can't wait to get my hands on it! Thanks to Aaron at LetusDirect for putting up with my e-mails every other day asking for an update ;)

Mark.

Kholi
11-03-2007, 09:35 PM
My footage sucks right now. Still need to get used to the new adapter.

Sorry!

disjecta
11-03-2007, 09:52 PM
It's okay Kholi, I'm busy watching all the other Extreme footage everyone is posting.

Oh wait, I was being sarcastic, there IS no other footage!

:evil: :beer:

Kholi
11-03-2007, 10:21 PM
LOL. You want some footage of like... a tree? And let's see... another tree?

puredrifting
11-03-2007, 10:37 PM
Received my Extreme. The next day, my HVX went down on a shoot. Now I have to take in my HVX for repairs on Monday while my poor virgin Letus Extreme sits here waiting ;-(

I haven't even used it yet!

Frustrated!

Dan

strancali
11-03-2007, 10:54 PM
My footage sucks right now. Still need to get used to the new adapter.

Sorry!


It's ok Kholi, we want to see the before and after :).

Kholi
11-03-2007, 10:59 PM
Alright you asked for it.

Tree footage coming.

PaPa
11-08-2007, 09:39 AM
man, when is this thing going to arrive? its been in canada since the 2nd of november...

the lenses i ordered through ebay arrived sooner than the adapter which were ordered much later!! damn.. :( frustrations this week.

Ram S.O.S
11-08-2007, 10:04 AM
man, when is this thing going to arrive? its been in canada since the 2nd of november...

the lenses i ordered through ebay arrived sooner than the adapter which were ordered much later!! damn.. :( frustrations this week.

When did you order yopur LEX? I'm trying to somewhat gauge when I might e seeing mine. I'm sure you ordered before me, my order was placed on october 12th.

PaPa
11-08-2007, 10:53 AM
mine was late september 26th, still waiting. not sure what usps is doing... but it should have arrived early this week, but the details on the shipping and tracking havent budged since the 2nd, when it arrived in canada.....

augenblick
11-08-2007, 12:54 PM
O.K. guys here is a videoclip I made this monday night with my hvx200 and the letus extreme with some canon lenses. right now it's just a small 480x272 clip but I will post an original sized 720p clip in a day or two. until then: www.augenblick.net/crystalball

have fun

Look 1st
11-09-2007, 12:27 PM
When did you order yopur LEX? I'm trying to somewhat gauge when I might e seeing mine. I'm sure you ordered before me, my order was placed on october 12th.

I ordered mine on Oct 5 .. it came FedEx today :)

Did I mention that Im thrilled right now:2vrolijk_08:

Look 1st
11-09-2007, 12:34 PM
O.K. guys here is a videoclip I made this monday night with my hvx200 and the letus extreme with some canon lenses. right now it's just a small 480x272 clip but I will post an original sized 720p clip in a day or two. until then: www.augenblick.net/crystalball (http://www.augenblick.net/crystalball)

have fun

Just watched it.. Id like to see the 720 version.

PaPa
11-09-2007, 06:25 PM
... y is mine taking soo longg :(

PaPa
11-12-2007, 02:29 PM
i swear to god.. these damn customes people...... give me my damn package!

augenblick
11-14-2007, 02:25 PM
Hi guys

The 720p (http://www.augenblick.net/crystalball-hd) version of the videoclip I shot with the hvx, the letus extreme and some canon lenses is now online. Also there is a little making of.

Enjoy

Chad Bonanno
11-14-2007, 04:32 PM
I was very impressed with the packaging they used. . .VERY Secure and Stable packaging. . .

PaPa
11-14-2007, 05:45 PM
just received mine. And yeah, very safe and secure. Nicely done! Man this thing is a TANK!

strancali
11-14-2007, 06:30 PM
just received mine. And yeah, very safe and secure. Nicely done! Man this thing is a TANK!

Did you kiss the fedex guy when he came?

strancali
11-14-2007, 06:31 PM
ok... that just sounded weird

PaPa
11-14-2007, 07:02 PM
no , i had to pick it up at the post office cause no one was home today to receive it.