Adapter questions

[Gogu]

Hello. I've been reading the articles in the adapter section for some time now and many of my questions got answered but i still got a few things to ask...

- Can you use Canon EOS system lenses with an adapter regarding manual control of the diaphragm ? I understand Nikons don't have this issue because manual lenses are still being manufactured by them.

- How do you resolve the flip/mirror issue on adapters that do not have an integrated correction system ?

- Which one in your opinion is the best spinning adapter in image quality ? I was thinking of going with the M2 system but in most of their sample footage the edges of the image look soft, that's not really nice :embarasse .
Did you have any other issues with these adapters (installation, ease of use etc.) ?
What is the light loss in the M2 or SGpro since i couldn't fiind this info on their sites ?

- How is the P+S Technik adapter ? It looks very professional built and all...

- And finally, after i had read the sticky at the top written by Timur (great article thanks man) i've come to the conclusion that spinning adapters are the best system for what they can offer in image quality...why people still use the other systems ? (it's just a personal oppinion don't get angry :Drogar-Happy(DBG): )

Thanks!

[DavidChia]

If the EOS lens is fully automatic, you can use your SLR camera to control the F stop on the lens and later take it off and place it on the adapter mount.


Spinner are great for high speed. But very heavy and rail dependet so that is the trade off.


All Flip and Flop are done in post. you can also use software that does it for you on the spot with your laptop. There are a few on the market. do a search and you will see.

P+S is nice if you have a few thousand to spare .

[Gogu]

Well...aren't all EOS lenses automatic ? The SLR solution is way to complicated...i'll buy Nikons then.

I know the flip problem can be solved in post but is the image filpped when i look through the viewfinder or does the camera somehow flips it automatically ? i'm confused about this part...

[DavidChia]

the image is flip when it is projected out from the adapter.. The camera records the image on the G.G of the adapter.

image = lens = adapter g.g = camera

the part that is flip and flop is fom the lens to the G.G

[Gogu]

yep so on my camera's viewfinder i'll see the flipped and mirrored image projected on the g.g ... are there any solutions around this ? (using a laptop as a monitor goes as a big no)

[DavidChia]

you eithier mount the camera upsidedown , use a magnet trick ( only certain camera) or wait for a flip model unit form Cinevate that will fit to other adapters around like the SGPRO .Price range to be in the mid $300.

[Gogu]

Thanks alot for the answers.
What's a magnet trick ? But don't certain cameras have an option to flip the image you see in the viewfinder or LCD ?

Thanks again

[indieGuerilla]

I have been watching here at dvxuser a long time and from all the posts I like the flip the camera approach. Less optics to affect image and no light loss. One guy says he is making a whole camera flipper instead of flipping the image. His posts are on the thread thats called " properly working adapter with little light loss" or something like that on the 35mm adapter forum. If the deal is sturdy and can rotate the camera it sounds ok to me. I dont know if the whole rail system flips or just the camera and adapter. Its just my preference to not degrade the footage any more than needed. IG

[DavidChia]

But even after flipping the camera upside the image still needs to be flop from right to left. If you are shooting words , you will see it

[DeGrey]

Try shooting with an upside down camera... that's a lot of fun and the stares you will get are even better ;)

I would say go with an external monitor and flip that, not the camera.

[TiE_Shepherd]

But even after flipping the camera upside the image still needs to be flop from right to left. If you are shooting words , you will see it

Not true. If you mount the camera upside down you're technically rotating it 180 degrees which is the same thing as flipping it left to right and up a down.

If you mount the camera upside down then the footage would need nothing done in post.

[Gogu]

so...how can you mount a camera upside down on a tripod ?:Drogar-Thinking(DBG

[Arrik]

You would need some kind of rails solution. Check out the HV20 mounting solutions on Cinevate or RedRock's sweet-looking hand held solution.

I think the Cinevate Rails and Blocks were designed to create customizable setups such as up-side-down mounting solutions.

Not sure you'd wanna mount a larger camera up-side-down though.

[TimurCivan]

- And finally, after i had read the sticky at the top written by Timur (great article thanks man) i've come to the conclusion that spinning adapters are the best system for what they can offer in image quality...why people still use the other systems ? (it's just a personal oppinion don't get angry :Drogar-Happy(DBG): )

Thanks!

they ue them because they offer smaller size and a still very usable image. Lately the vibrating adapters have caught up some what becuse of newer designs and better GG materials.