HELP - mixedd frame rates - cant cut my footage

[schteevie]

Please follow this link below to see that I am dealing with.

http://www.helmstudios.ca/clients/stuff/P2-issues.jpg

I had a multi-cam shoot, and one of my operators shot 24P while the others were shooting 24PN as I had planned.
The MXF files for the 24P stuff are gone becasue teh footage was ingested into FCP straight from P2 then the card was formatted, so all I have are the quicktimes which are 60i.
I need to convert the quicktimes back to 24PN so I can work on the same time line with out a render.
I could go the other way and add the pulldown to the 24PN stuff which I still have the original MXF files for, but I have no idea how to do it!
Please help!!!

please follow this link above to see the image of the two file formats .

[Dewy-dB]

You should be able to use Cinema Tools to remove the redundant frames, or you can download the plugin for final cut from the panasonic site. (I'd just use cinema tools.)

I lent my P2 cards out right now so I can't double check, but I'm pretty sure I've done it before. Just select your source quicktime file, right click and "open with... cinema tools". Then you should be able to analyze, and remove pull-down.

- Greg

[schteevie]

Thanks for the suggestion.
I tried cinematools and here is what happened:

The "rev telecine" button was not available (for any of my footage), so I tried conforming the 59.97 stuff to 23.98 and it slowed down the audio.
I tried conforming the 23.98 stuff to 29.97 (59.97 was not an option) and it sped up the audio.
In both cases the video appeard to be negatvely effected...


aaaarrg. any other Ideas? I need help here!
I am now behind schedule because I can't even start subclipping, let alone editing this.

[Dewy-dB]

Ok you're right those don't work, sorry.

I spend some time and searched all my TB's of files and found some footage like yours. Here's what I found:

If I put the 59.94 "24P" footage in a along side my 24PN foootage on a 23.98 timeline it requires no render, it just removes those redundant frames automatically. What version of final cut pro you running? If the metadata is still intact (which it should be) then FCP should auto-detect those redundant frames and remove the with no render.

If you still have problems hit me up on iChat. My info is under my screen name. Maybe you could send me a 2 second clip to mess with.



- Greg

[schteevie]

My initial testing was on FCP 5.1.4 and it always seemded to need a render, but I went to a friends place with FCP 6 today, and found exactly what you just tested for me, so thanks for confirming that 59.94 on a 23.98 time line works.

I am going to put FCP 6 on my 3+ year old system tomorrow, and hope it works ok... (1st gen dual 1.8 G5)

thanks again for the help.

Hopefullly when I am done I don't have issus tryoing to out put this silly thing!
I am ultimately planing to deliver 1080i on tape.

[Dewy-dB]

Sure no problem, good luck!