Badlands

[J.R. Hudson]

I just started watching for the first time

OMG - The opening scene has the identical music from TRUE ROMANCE ! The steele drums ....

More review to come :bath:

[Batutta]

Yeah, that Terrence Malick is such a rip off artist...I actually couldn't believe they used that music in True Romance, as the movie was already such a knock off Malick's Badlands to begin with...Another thief is John Singleton and his use of "Ooo Child" when the kids are getting arrested in Boyz N The Hood, copying an almost identical scene in Over The Edge which has the same track. I think that's just downright lazy.

What's up Hudson, you catching up on the classics?

[Luis Caffesse]

To be fair - I think the music is ripped off from itself -
Didn't Hans Zimmer did the soundtrack to both Badlands and True Romance?

And by the way - you found the plot line to be similar to True Romance?
I always felt like 'Natural Born Killers' was a carbon copy of Bad Lands (plotwise)

[Batutta]

They are both similar. Tarantino has always owned up to the influence of that film on his early work...And no, Hans Zimmer did not score Badlands.

[Blaine]

It's the only Malick movie that I can say I really liked.

[J.R. Hudson]

Im not seeing the Badlands / TR connection other than young lovers; :P TR is an epic film

I don't think Zimmer did Badlands Luis !

Yes, I am expanding my brain

Yall'd be proud of me; Kubrick, Lynch, early classics from the 30's to the 70's .....

I'm in my final year and my thesis is due

[Blaine]

Im not seeing the Badlands / TR connection other than young lovers; :P TR is an epic film

I don't think Zimmer did Badlands Luis !

Yes, I am expanding my brain

Yall'd be proud of me; Kubrick, Lynch, early classics from the 30's to the 70's .....

I'm in my final year and my thesis is due
What's next? Art films? :shocked:







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[J.R. Hudson]

Sheen just shot homeboy

Wow

This film is turing out to be everything it's hyped up to be

DAMN Blaine ?

Thin Red Line was solid; it took me a few viewings, but I endorse it

[Tlalconetl]

I just started watching for the first time

OMG - The opening scene has the identical music from TRUE ROMANCE ! The steele drums ....

More review to come :bath:

Malick--a great filmmaker. Badlands is great. And yeah, the music is also in True Romance. But plot-wise, I think Down In The Valley (with Edward Norton) is a more of a rip-off of Badlands than True Romance.

[Batutta]

If you're checking out classics from the 40's I recommend White Heat with James Cagney if you haven't seen it. It's one of those rare classic films that has a pacing on par with a modern film, and Cagney is brilliant in it...And watch Yojimbo. I prefer it to Seven Samurai.

[J.R. Hudson]

Chilling

The scene where the young couple sgows up at the house

and the girl says

"What's going to happen to Jack and me ?"

Freaky

[Billy Pilgrim]

What a weird coincidence. I JUST watched this this afternoon and was going to start a thread. On the whole people talking about others ripping off the story should know that Badlands was based on a real couple '50s who went on a killing spree. The movie the Sadist, which came out in the early '60s, before Badlands, is also based on the couple. But Badlands is still far, far, far, far better than Natural Born Killers and True Romance. The Sadist isn't bad. For an exploitation film, it's actually beautifully shot by the famous DP Vilmos Zsigmond of Close Encounters fame. Badlands is an amazing film. I decided to watch all of Terrence Malick's films this weekend (which should be easy, he's only made four films).

[Batutta]

What a weird coincidence. I JUST watched this this afternoon and was going to start a thread. On the whole people talking about others ripping off the story should know that Badlands was based on a real couple '50s who went on a killing spree. The movie the Sadist, which came out in the early '60s, before Badlands, is also based on the couple. But Badlands is still far, far, far, far better than Natural Born Killers and True Romance. The Sadist isn't bad. For an exploitation film, it's actually beautifully shot by the famous DP Vilmos Zsigmond of Close Encounters fame. Badlands is an amazing film. I decided to watch all of Terrence Malick's films this weekend (which should be easy, he's only made four films).

A sadist is someone who watches all of Malick's films over a weekend...I really like Badlands, but don't have much regard for his other work beyond their usually gorgeous cinematography.

[J.R. Hudson]

I loved it

4 of 5 Stars

Held me throughout

I've become a fan of Malick; I am influenced by him definately

[Billy Pilgrim]

A sadist is someone who watches all of Malick's films over a weekend...

That would be a masochist, actually.

[Blaine]

That would be a masochist, actually.Correct you are. A sadist is someone who would make me sit through them. His movies do present nice visuals, I'm just not that sold on his stories. Four films throughout his career with a 20 year gap between the first two and the last two...

[DeSica]

But Badlands is still far, far, far, far better than Natural Born Killers and True Romance.

No argument there. Plus, it inspired Bruce Springsteen to write Nebraska. Years later, Sean Penn would take Highway Patrolman (off the same album), and make The Indian Runner.



I decided to watch all of Terrence Malick's films this weekend (which should be easy, he's only made four films)

Good for you. This guy is a filmmaker's filmmaker. When The Thin Red Line was going to be made, everyone in Hollywood wanted in. George Clooney is only in it for maybe 30 seconds, Woody Harrelson took a small (but memorable part) just to be in it, and Mickey rourke ended up having all his scenes cut out of it, but the list of actors who would have gladly taken their places is supposed to be pretty long. I hated it when I saw it at the theatres. I love it now. Would rather see it than Saving Private Ryan 9 times out of 10.

Enjoy the scenery in Days Of Heaven.

[David Jimerson]

Hmmm. Not so sure the movie inspired Nebraska. The Starkweather murder spree inspired at least one of the songs, but that was big news well before the movie. Didn't need the movie to be inspired.

"Highway Patrolman" always fascinated me, because the lyrics suggest it was set very near where I grew up (outside Toledo), even though there's no Perrineville or Michigan County in Ohio. (Nor is there a Michigan County in any other state, but Perrineville, NJ is near the Boss's hometown.)

[Sad Max]

I fell in love with Badlands, first time I saw it. Just, wow.

The music is by Carl Orff, from the Musica Poetica. Hans Zimmer rearranged and derived variations on it for the True Romance score.

[Luis Caffesse]

I don't know what the hell I was thinking.
As I went back and read that I realized how stupid it sounded.

I think that's one of those things someone told me back when I first saw Badlands, and I never stopped to realize it didn't really make sense.

Alright - I'll stick to posting about things I know about.
Hmmm

I guess I'll be posting alot less
:thumbsup:

[DeSica]

Hmmm. Not so sure the movie inspired Nebraska. The Starkweather murder spree inspired at least one of the songs, but that was big news well before the movie. Didn't need the movie to be inspired.

I recall reading an interview somewhere in which Springsteen states that he had watched the movie just before or around the time he set out to write the song. Wikipedia also says as much, and points out the first lines of the song being drawn from the film. I can't remember if the Starkweather killing spree was already on his mind, or if the film drew his attention to it, but I do remember him mentioning Badlands (the film, not his song) as having to do with writing the song, if not the whole album. I think he said something about seeing it, and being take with the imagery, and Sheen's performance, and that got him going on the song. Might have been from one of his biographies.


"Highway Patrolman" always fascinated me, because the lyrics suggest it was set very near where I grew up (outside Toledo), even though there's no Perrineville or Michigan County in Ohio. (Nor is there a Michigan County in any other state, but Perrineville, NJ is near the Boss's hometown.)Wherever it was, it had to be reasonably close to the Canadian border.

Nebraska is an amazing piece of work, and when you consider he recorded it as a demo on a four-track machine in his bedroom, it becomes that much more impressive. When he presented it to the band, it had a few songs that would end up on Born In The USA (including the title song), and he wanted to record it in the studio.

They told him he already had an entire album right there, and to just release it pretty much as is, so he separated the material according to theme, and ended up with a high achievement in lo-fidelity. The other songs were reworked and became the backbone for Born In The USA.

You might want to check out Badlands: A Tribute To Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska. Johnny Cash, Raul Malo, Hank Williams III, Chrissie Hynde, Ani DiFranco...an album that shares it's name with the movie that inspired the album that this album was inspired by. Make sense?

[David Jimerson]

I recall reading an interview somewhere in which Springsteen states that he had watched the movie just before or around the time he set out to write the song. Wikipedia also says as much, and points out the first lines of the song being drawn from the film. I can't remember if the Starkweather killing spree was already on his mind, or if the film drew his attention to it, but I do remember him mentioning Badlands (the film, not his song) as having to do with writing the song, if not the whole album. I think he said something about seeing it, and being take with the imagery, and Sheen's performance, and that got him going on the song. Might have been from one of his biographies.

Fair enough.



Wherever it was, it had to be reasonably close to the Canadian border.

Right, which is why it had to be near Toledo; Frankie would've crossed at Detroit.

You might want to check out Badlands: A Tribute To Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska. Johnny Cash, Raul Malo, Hank Williams III, Chrissie Hynde, Ani DiFranco...an album that shares it's name with the movie that inspired the album that this album was inspired by. Make sense?

I've heard it, though I rather dislike covers. But why would that not "make sense"?

[J.R. Hudson]

Springsteen

I have come to really appreciate his work. It has only been as an adult that I 'discovered' him personally

[Sad Max]

Still haven't gotten the hang of Springsteen, at least, until that folk album he released a year or two ago. That was great.

[David Jimerson]

He doesn't have a golden throat, but he can put words together.

[Sad Max]

Same's true for Bob Dylan; I'm much more of a Dylan fan. Maybe it has to do with how the words are put together, too.

[David Jimerson]

Dylan's lyrics are on a higher tier, yes.

[J.R. Hudson]

I can't stand the sound of Dylans voice; makes me want to scratch my eyes out

[Luis Caffesse]

I can't stand the sound of Dylans voice; makes me want to scratch my eyes out

Funny.
I can't stand the look of Dylan's face; makes me want to rip my ears off.
:)

[David Jimerson]

Well, it's true that a number of Dylan's songs are far more palatable when sung by someone else. But they're still Dylan's songs.

[Blaine]

Great voices have never been requisite for musical success. Tom Waits is a great example. He's a favorite but certainly doesn't have a good voice...and it's getting worse with age.

[David Jimerson]

There is, for example, Britney Spears.

[Sad Max]

I worked with an Art Director who did a fantastic Dylan impression. He'd go through whole production meetings, in character.

[DeSica]

Same's true for Bob Dylan; I'm much more of a Dylan fan. Maybe it has to do with how the words are put together, too.

Springsteen is a huge Dylan fan, and his early stuff really shows this. Greetings From Asbury Park, and The Wild, The Innocent, & The E street Shuffle are very wordy and poetic, and reveal a heavy Dylan influence, as well as some Van Morrison (though maybe not as much as Van Morrison thinks.)

I never liked Dylan much growing up, but since Time Out Of Mind, I have been a huge fan, and have gone back through his material and bought much of it. His last three albums have been great, maybe his best stuff in decades. He had a spell in the 80's where he toured too much, and his studio stuff wasn't great, but it was prolific as usual, and it did yield some gems (Jokerman, Most Of The Time, Ring Them Bells.)

I saw him a few years back, with some older friends, and it was a good show. They told me about how hit and miss it can be with the guy, as they had seen him a few times before, and he had sometimes been so out of it that the show would suffer and he would only play for maybe 45 minutes.

On our way out, they mentioned the best show they had ever seen was an intimate thing with Tom Waits in NYC. They paid 75 bucks and sat in a tiny venue (like a small club or bar) and listened to him do his thing.

[J.R. Hudson]

Artists not a par with the legendary status of a Dylan or Waits not-withstanding ...

I once worked for the Port of San Diego and one day after work, myself and a fellow employee (Forgot her name) went onto one of the charter boats to drink beer from the bar keg; she was the bartender and I was the Tour Guide

ANyways, the Summer Pops was in full swing and we were treated to about 3 hours of The B-52's and The Fixx doing their pre-show sound checks.

They ran through their sets, conversed and joked with each other over the mics and seemed to be really just having fun without a pretense of a thousand people watching them

Anyways, speaking from the intimate side of seeing musicians at work. I believe they were about 50 yards away on stage and from our vantage atop the boat, it was perfect.