Vegas 8

[USLatin]

It is about to be unveiled at IBC on Sept 7th.

William found this : https://cc.its.maine.edu/~maine/cart/look.php?item_id=4053463
which says that for $500 u'd get V8 with DVDachitect 4.5 and a MIXING CONSOLE! (not a hardware mixer, see post below)

Also, this guy found an article saying that Sound Forge will also be sold with Vegas?!?
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=101179

All I want to know is if V8 will be 64-bit for sure, if it is sable with Vista 64-bit and if it will support Quads...

Anywho, if you guys have some info (links preferred) please share it here.

[William_Robinette]

Just want to make sure everyone is on the same page here:

If I am reading this right, the "mixing console" is a software emulation of a hardware mixer. Similar to this from Cakewalk's Sonar audio program:

http://cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Gallery/images/image-07.gif

It works and looks just like a mixer you would put your hands on. IMO it makes mixing so much more intuitive with you are doing it in the computer. I hope this is what I am thinking of. Vegas will not come with an outboard hardware mixer for the price of $500.

I'm excited for V8.

[USLatin]

crap, see thanks for clearing that up
any possibility of getting a hardware interface hooked up to Vegas 8?

And does anyone have links to some of the specs on V8?

[jeditdv]

You can already have hardware hooked up to Vegas 6 and 7.

[plainman007]

Yes i thin they meantion mackie consoles right ?

[USLatin]

great, any links please? Any suggestions as to which might be good deals?

No info on V8 specs yet?

[jeditdv]

Actually it was version 5 that added this:
* Support for control surfaces including the Mackie® Control Universal

http://sony-245.vo.llnwd.net/dspcdn/readmes/vegas50d/vegas_readme.htm


http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=19&MessageID=526958

Do a search for "mackie" on the Sony forum and you'll get over 1300 hits.

[USLatin]

After a quick read of that thread u linked to the Behringer BCF2000 seems like the cheapest way to get faders working in Vegas... $120 is a good price on Ebay, which is quite tempting!

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=Behringer+BCF2000

Here is a guide made by a user about setting up this mixer with Vegas
http://www.whippey.eclipse.co.uk/BCFforVegas.htm

And a page by Sony about using the mixer with ACID
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/step2.asp?DID=732

Now does anyone have other info on V8?

[dcrandall]

About the upcoming Vegas Pro 8 ..... check this link out

http://www.videoguys.com/vegaspro8.html/

-Dan

[USLatin]

Thanks! They say it will come with Blue-Ray burning support!!!!

But only 32-bit? They say that the 32-bit floating point video processing is new? So I gues no need to upgrade to Vista and we should expect more performance.. but how much performance? Why not 64-bit??? Also, they list "enhanced video previewing" separately...

Nothing mentioned about Quad optimization

# New! ProType Titler
# New! Multicamera editing tools
# New! 32-bit floating point video processing
# New! Digital signage support
# New! Audio mixing console
# New! Enhanced video previewing
# New! Interactive tutorials
# New! Scripting extensions
# New! Blu-ray Disc burning directly from the timeline
# New! No-recompress rendering for Long GOP HDV
# New! XDCAM partial conform for FAM mode

[danny d]

32 bit floating point video processing????????????????
are you guys sure. I dont believe so
for 500 dollars,
thats highend online quality (quantel, smoke, fire< lumiere, assimilate, ) even ds and symphony don't have that.

thats just vaporware.

[dcrandall]

Here's the text:

"32-bit Floating Point Video Processing
Surpass traditional 10-bit standards with 32-bit floating point video processing. Take advantage of greater color range for more vivid colors, reduced gradient banding and posterization for smoother color transitions, linear light capability for optically correct compositing, and many other precision enhancements."

I can't say it's true but we'll all find when it's released in about a week.

-Dan

[USLatin]

from what you are saying and that being a retailer, and since I don't see any info directly from Sony, then I assume they either know something or they are trying to scam... I guess it would be a big deal if they did include that...

I mean... is it really that big of a jump? What does Edius use? Cause that thing is faaaast... and Sony matching Edius's engine isn't that big of a jump in terms of what giant SONY could do.... right?

[DVXSanDiego]

32 bit floating point video processing????????????????
are you guys sure. I dont believe so
for 500 dollars,
thats highend online quality (quantel, smoke, fire< lumiere, assimilate, ) even ds and symphony don't have that.

thats just vaporware.

Actually, 32-bit floating is used in After Effects. We had planned to do the color correction on our current feature in AE, but now with 32-bit in Vegas... this is a great move on the part of Sony. You should read "The DV Rebel's Guide" by Stu Maschwitz of The Orphanage and Magic Bullet. He has a wonderful description and breakdown of how to use AE for CC and the advantages of 32-bit floating.

[USLatin]

I am not 100% on page then... what is 32-bit floating processing exactly and what does it enable?

[William_Robinette]

It's talking about color depth, not related to processor or OS speed. This isn't dealing with a 32bit or 64bit OS.

[DVXSanDiego]

I am not 100% on page then... what is 32-bit floating processing exactly and what does it enable?

Well, I'm not the best person to break this down for you, which is why I said read Stu's book, but it basically comes down to shades of gray and variations of color. Like going from 16 colors to 256 colors to thousands, and to millions. The more bits, the better an image looks, and more importantly, the better it will hold up as you begin to color correct and process it. Vegas had been limited by its 8-bit color space in that any CC done and any processing of the image would result in degradation and artifacting. That is no longer true with V8. If you read tutorials on color correction, one of the first things they tell you is to never manipulate an image in an 8-bit space. Now, with Vegas 8, people will not be able to say working with it will restrict them to a non-professional color space. For instance, Apple's new color correction software, Color, which was until this year a $25,000 application, works in a 32-bit float color space. Now Vegas does too.

[DVXSanDiego]

It's talking about color depth, not related to processor or OS speed. This isn't dealing with a 32bit or 64bit OS.

Yes - that too.

[USLatin]

ok, I get it it is the bit-rate of the chroma and luma values used by Vegas... great then... same reason I record 24/96 audio when possible, thanks

this from the same page:
"32-bit Floating Point Video Processing
Surpass traditional 10-bit standards with 32-bit floating point video processing.
Take advantage of greater color range for more vivid colors, reduced gradient
banding and posterization for smoother color transitions, linear light capability
for optically correct compositing, and many other precision enhancements."

HEY! Did u guys see this one:
"Adobe Photoshop layer support
For the ultimate in control over the appearance of your DVD project, you can
import an Adobe® Photoshop® (PSD) file to create menus, buttons, and more."



now all that I want to know is if V8 will be 64-bit compatible, Quad optimized and any faster...
they did list "Enhanced Video Previewing" but is there any additional info out there? anything a bit more specific?

[Robert Eldon]

now all that I want to know is if V8 will be 64-bit compatible, Quad optimized and any faster...
they did list "Enhanced Video Previewing" but is there any additional info out there? anything a bit more specific?

I attended the Sony party at NAB earlier this year. They introduced and demonstrated their 64-bit version of Vegas. I don't know what's happened to it since?

[Drew Ott]

I attended the Sony party at NAB earlier this year. They introduced and demonstrated their 64-bit version of Vegas. I don't know what's happened to it since?


Sounds promising.

[USLatin]

yea, sure does, I have been holdibg on to that for what now seems for eva... we really need to see those specs! aghhh... :)

so I'll forget about AE altogether probably and use PS much more, but what about speed... I mean if they don't deliver then the wait for V9 for comparable performance will be just absurd!

[Drew Ott]

yea, sure does, I have been holdibg on to that for what now seems for eva... we really need to see those specs! aghhh... :)

so I'll forget about AE altogether probably and use PS much more, but what about speed... I mean if they don't deliver then the wait for V9 for comparable performance will be just absurd!


Are you not getting good performance with Vegas 7? You have great PC specs and it sounds like you should be getting flawless editing.

Or are you just obsessed with having the best performance possible and not wasting any power that you PC has to offer (like I am)?

[USLatin]

exactly... right now I am wasting about 5GHz during previewing and that just makes me wanna break stuff... still, I am i love with Vegas but COME ON!

[ptalsky]

One feature caught my eye - the new version is going to support BWF with metadata - could it be they will be able to read timecode and auto-sync to TC-encoded video??? That would be a huge plus. Doesn't help DVX or HVX shoots, though.

Phil

[USLatin]

is that the main stream pro TC?

[24fps4ever]

I swear that if vegas 8 does not support dual cores for preview I am switching to a full mac editing suite :(

[ptalsky]

USLatin,

Not sure what you mean by main stream pro TC. I'm talking about standard SMTPE timecode and TC encoded sound files matching with TC encoded video, with the TC usually generated from a master clock (I use my TC slate as the master, though I will probably add a tri-level sync box at some point soon).

Phil

[USLatin]

I just haven't had the pleasure of recording off camera yet so don't remember stuff bout TC... never mind me, don't want to hijack, but thanks :)

24fps4eva, yea... exactly... I own Raylight but I want Vegas to be able to run maxed out on all cores by itself then Raylight can just be a normal codec for MXF but full throttle ability should come from Sony directly for Duos and Quads

[ZarbeL]

Vegas Pro 8 software features: Vegas Pro 8 New Video Features: * ProType titler * Multicamera Workflow * 32-Bit Floating Point Video Processing * Digital Signage and Portrait style video editing * Thought Equity™ Motion Footage Search – An exclusive, integrated plug-in designed to streamline the acquisition of stock footage. Includes content from Sony Pictures, National Geographic, HBO and more with a special section provided for registered Vegas Pro 8 users Vegas Pro 8 New Audio Features: * Audio Mixing Console * Audio Routing Enhancements * Tempo-based audio effects * Support for opening and rendering FLAC files Vegas Pro 8 New Format Features: * No recompression when rendering long-GOP video formats * Sony AVCHD Read and write Support * Burn timeline to Blu-ray discs * XDCAM FAM mode trimmed conform Vegas 8 Pro New General Features: * Single-monitor full screen video preview * Extensive Scripting Extensions programming API * Interactive tutorials source: http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=105&postid=858187 so nice!!!!!! i want 64 version too ;)

[mik303]

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/product.asp?pid=457

[USLatin]

WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

anyone buy it yet?

EDIT: it isn't available yet! darnet! aghhhh the anticipation! plus I want to drop my project into it and magically go from 10-bit to 32-bitCC before submission!!! aghhh heheheh

[Daygola814]

The 32bit float for color grading, etc... That would do anything for me since I'm using the DVX, correct or no?

Thanks!

[USLatin]

In my understaiding it will... it should help any footage when applying several effects... but I am not sure about it and that's why I started that little thread about the subject

hey the link to V8 on the sony site is temporarily down for maintenance... could it be more info? are they releasing it? :)

[MikeGunter]

Hi,

"One flew east, One flew west,
One flew over the cuckoo's nest "

While a slightly obscure source for a great book and wonderful movie, the concept is that cuckoos don't make nests, but lays their eggs in other birds' nests and let them raise their young.

Vegas was/is so good in the same way that FCP is/was so good. No unique code. Vegas let Windows do all the work. It if keeps that paradigm, it will be fine, there won't be anything to break.

[Daygola814]

Just got the email from Sony Creative Software, so I'm sure all of you are already aware of this... but for those who are not... it says that they're releasing Vegas Pro 8 on Monday, Sept. 10. I can't wait. I actually start a new job on Monday and the owner said he'd buy me Vegas 8 when it comes out. Great timing!

Just a heads up for those that didn't know. Vegas Pro 8!

Thanks!

[USLatin]

lucky you!

So the 10th it is! Thanks!

[killfilm]

over the years, sony has been cheap about features and requests..............................32bit, a new titler............for the first time in my life, i would like to say....i love you sony:crybaby: and this time i cant:furious3:

[Tzedekh]

I am not 100% on page then... what is 32-bit floating processing exactly and what does it enable?It's 32 bits per color channel, and possibly 32 for the alpha channel. The "floating-point" part refers to how the calculations are done -- integer math is essentially less precise for this kind of work. And, yes, 32-bit floating-point color is an enormous advantage and really has nothing to do with whether the OS is 32-bit or 64-bit.

[USLatin]

so doesn't anyone find it funny that V8 and Red One are released on the same day?

good things come out in pairs :)

Who is getting it? When? Tell us about it!

[earthcubed]

Does anyone know if raylight will work with V8, I've just downloaded and installed the demo and it won't allow me to import any of my MXF's, I tried reinstalling Raylight but it didn't help.

Any idea's if and when it may work?

[Essami]

I was just about to ask if Vegas 8 supports drag and drop of hvx200 mxf files now? Im still thinking if i should buy onethe camera or not. I read the lines below here:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/product.asp?PID=457&PageID=102

XDCAM-specific features include:
HD Import (all modes supported, native .MXF editing)

Or is that XDCAM specific to mean it only understands Sony mfx files?

Sami

[David Jimerson]

Only Sony, AFAIK.

[mvb]

Does anyone know if raylight will work with V8, I've just downloaded and installed the demo and it won't allow me to import any of my MXF's, I tried reinstalling Raylight but it didn't help.

Any idea's if and when it may work?

V8 will not recognize the Raylight plugin. Something changed in the way they register plugins. If you're a Raylight user I would put off upgrading to V8 until we can get this resolved. The Vegas people are out of town until the 11th, so it'll be a few days at least.

[mvb]

Does anyone know if raylight will work with V8, I've just downloaded and installed the demo and it won't allow me to import any of my MXF's, I tried reinstalling Raylight but it didn't help.

Any idea's if and when it may work?

Here's a workaround for expert users until we can update the plugin:


This must be done after both Vegas 8 and the Raylight MXF plug-in have been installed.

1. Run regedit
2. Navigate to this folder: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Sony
Media Software\File Formats 2\{BE00A7E1-A0F6-11D4-B26A-00A0D2181960}

3. Right click on the folder, select Export, save to a file
named RaylightFix.reg

4. Open this file in Notepad. Change the text in the third line
to read Sony Creative Software instead of Sony Media Software (just
change the word Media to Creative).

5. Save the changes.

6. Double click on RaylightFix.reg in the Windows Explorer.
Answer Yes when you are warned about changing the registry and are
asked to continue.

7. Run Vegas 8 and it should now be able to open MXF files that
require the Raylight plug-in.

This also works in Vista 32, with additional
warnings about running regedit in steps 1 and 6 (must have
Administrator permission).

Thanks to Tracy at Sony Vegas for the info.

[USLatin]

NICE! One-Day fix!

Thanks DVfilm!

[Sherlock256]

Will making this change to the registry disable use of Raylight in Vegas 7?

[mvb]

Will making this change to the registry disable use of Raylight in Vegas 7?

No

Essentially it copies registry info from Raylight into the Vegas 8 area, has no effect on Vegas 7 or earlier versions. I have a system here that is running Vegas 6, 7 and 8 all with the same copy of Raylight.

[Sherlock256]

Excellent, Thank you for the quick response and for the great work with Raylight 3.0. Tried the fix, quick and easy, presto!

[Erik Olson]

This part of the thread should be made into a new sticky - at least until DVFilm releases the update for Vegas 8. Amazing workaround. Thanks Marcus!!!

e

[USLatin]

yea a momentary sticky till the patch comes out... hey Overland, why not the whole thread? u bastard... heheh

[DVXSanDiego]

Did it. First time doing regedit. Easy, though. Thanks, Marcus. Raylight is amazing, BTW.

[hmobley]

anyone here having issues with V8 crashing using cindform neo hdv clips

I want to add something here RE: V8 crashing, My problem has been when I use Cineform clips (avi) filmscan1 and put them on my timeline, I can save them to a veg. file if I don't render out. I renamed the cfhd.dll. thought it helped until last night. everything was OK until I rendered to a wmv HD file. I did multiple renders on this one veg. file. mpeg2 ntsc was ok, but after the wmv render same problem again, I could get the veg. file to open to 22% then crash, it hangs then all the files open, I click the pop up saying there is problem, crash. Using m2t clips are no problem at all. I tried to get V8 to crash, wouldn't. I can render them into anything and there is no problem. I can go back and put the cineform avi clips back on my timeline, re-do everything and that works, for a while. then crashes again. the computer I am on is a new clean install xp sp2 just for V8, so all programs are newly installed including NEO HDV. are my issues close to anyone else's issues? V7 no issues what so ever. To me, its between V8 and cineform.

[USLatin]

small chance if any but maybe you need to get the other updates for XP?

[hmobley]

No, this is new clean install with xp sp2 just for V8, thought I had problem fixed, but no, I still believe there is a V8/cineform NEO HDV issue, I have contacted cineform, they are real good about support, I contacted Sony a week ago, they suck. I have another computer, same setup, no problem yet. seems the problem starts after I render for few hours or so.

[joelaready]

How many video and audio tracks are available in V8?

[Drew Ott]

How many video and audio tracks are available in V8?


Unlimited.

[mvb]

Raylight has now been updated for Vegas Pro 8. It's in release
folder 301-4. Get it at dvfilm.com/update

We also fixed the timecode problem with MXF files.

[USLatin]

MVB, thanks for the update about the update... hehe

[Patrick Forestell]

Anyone know if Vegas8 wil export a picture jpeg from the timeline as I like to make my DVD labels with a more peronal touch, thanks, Pud

PS: It says NEW 24p DVD, I thougth Version 7 did 24p already or is that Ver7 just 24p with 2:3 pulldown added ?
I assume by NEW 24p they mean 24p with no 2:3 pulldown added ?

[David Jimerson]

Yes, it will export a JPEG.

24p DVDs have been supported since Vegas 4.

[Patrick Forestell]

WARNING: I just found out that if you download the online version of the upgrade for Vegas 8 you are supposed to get a activation number in your email, well guess what, 1/2 hr later still no email from SONY and I can't use the thing ! I should have spent the $15 extra and ordered instead the snail mail CD version, Patrick

[Patrick Forestell]

I thought so here said I could export a pic/ jpeg from the timeline ? I just bought Vegas 8 and I don't see that option !

[David Jimerson]

There's a little button which looks like a floppy disc above the preview window. Click it.

[Patrick Forestell]

THANKS !


I online chatted with SONY and they fixed my activation number issue but still no emails from them, they claim that some WW providers block their emails for some reason.

[skippyfx]

So let me get this straight. All this talk on their website about importing .MXF fiels and all HD formats and it...

CAN NOT import HVX files from a firestore?

Is anyone for sure on this?

[David Jimerson]

Can not natively import any MXFs except Sony-specific MXFs.

[mvb]

Can not natively import any MXFs except Sony-specific MXFs.

David I'm going to argue with your use of the work native, because with Raylight you do have native import and editing of MXF files. Native usually means there is no trancoding process rather than a function requiring an additonal purchase. Perhaps what you mean is Vegas cannot import and edit Panasonic MXF files without buying a plugin.

[David Jimerson]

Of course, Marcus. I read the question as asking if Sony itself had implemented P2/MXF support, which it hadn't.

[mvb]

Of course, Marcus. I read the question as asking if Sony itself had implemented P2/MXF support, which it hadn't.

You're about 75% correct but the Raylight plug-in was created with Sony-provided software and they helped in its development.

[jinks]

So is vegas 8 now compartible with Raylight? sorry if this has been mentioned already.
Thanks.

[USLatin]

yes... DL the latest version from DVfilm.com

[David Jimerson]

You're about 75% correct but the Raylight plug-in was created with Sony-provided software and they helped in its development.

Hmmm. Then why don't they just take the next logical step? Not that I want to cut off an income stream of yours, but jiminy cricket.

[USLatin]

It might be something that Sony needs to purchase from DVfilm? A license? Perhaps a fee per unit?

[mvb]

So is vegas 8 now compartible with Raylight? sorry if this has been mentioned already.
Thanks.

Yes it is, make sure you have Raylight release 301-4.

[USLatin]

Hey MVB... do you think Sony might support MXF in the future or could you guys sell them a lisence or something like it? Keeping the colors is a big deal for those of us who have tried them out.


It might be something that Sony needs to purchase from DVfilm? A license? Perhaps a fee per unit?

HOw could/will this turn out?

[mvb]

Hmmm. Then why don't they just take the next logical step? Not that I want to cut off an income stream of yours, but jiminy cricket.

Not only would they need the plugin but a codec as well, and the Panasonic decoder is not good enough for rendering and doesn't encode either. It's much easier to have a specialist put it all together. Also when AVC Intra comes along, and then the next thing, etc its the same problem over again. With Vegas and Raylight you get the best of both worlds, a product combination that responds quickly to the market with a stable core editing system. I think it's much better than an editng system that tries to be everything and consequently crashes left and right.

[USLatin]

sure, but woul Sony be interested in paying you guys to distribute the plug within Vegas?

[mvb]

Hey MVB... do you think Sony might support MXF in the future or could you guys sell them a lisence or something like it? Keeping the colors is a big deal for those of us who have tried them out.

HOw could/will this turn out?

I would prefer things stay the way they are right now. There are a lot of improvements coming down the pipeline for Raylight. We have an improved "Blue" in development that runs as fast or faster than Raylight Green, better metadata support, hardware acceleration, DVCPROHD quicktime authoring, and lots more. Those improvments will come faster if it remains a DVFilm product. I would just wish at this point that they would link Raylight on their website and give us some sort of semi-official status.

[USLatin]

WHAT?!?!? BLue quality with Green or Green+ performance?!?

Duuuude... heeh... sweet!

What do you mean by "hardware acceleration"? You listed it separate so I guess it is an aditional performance boost besides the Blue improovement?

So you will be able to render a DVCPROHD QT right from Vegas?

The link on the Sony site might happen soon enough. Hope it happens for you guys! Raylight was some of the best spent cash when you cosider the level of commitment you guys have with it and the level of these developments.

[mano secreta]

All Hail raylight......MVB, you ROCK!
sp

[USLatin]

I have a question for you MVB, since you might be one of the few that might be able to answer it. Actually, more than question I want to make sure I understand the following since I don't know enough to ask a specific question.

The way I understand it is that the added performance from Raylight comes from the codec since that is what each different color is, a different codec.

Also, where does the added performance in Vegas 8? And will we benefit from it while using Raylight or was that also performance coming from revised codecs? If it is in the way other things are managed we might get the two boosts in performance together when running Raylight in V8... is that the case?

I just want to get rough idea of how it all works.

[mvb]

I have a question for you MVB, since you might be one of the few that might be able to answer it. Actually, more than question I want to make sure I understand the following since I don't know enough to ask a specific question.

The way I understand it is that the added performance from Raylight comes from the codec since that is what each different color is, a different codec.

Also, where does the added performance in Vegas 8? And will we benefit from it while using Raylight or was that also performance coming from revised codecs? If it is in the way other things are managed we might get the two boosts in performance together when running Raylight in V8... is that the case?

I just want to get rough idea of how it all works.

Raylight codec is multithreaded (up to 8 CPUs right now) so with multiple processors you get a more balanced processor load when scrubbing or rendering a raylight timeline than you would with a single-threaded codec. The job of decoding the picture is divided evenly among the CPUs.

Hopefully the same idea is used in Vegas with the effects, etc. I don't know.

[Patrick Forestell]

Hi, I am using the newest Raylight for Vegas 8, what does the various Blue Green Red buttons actuualy do ? Do they determine the quality of the preview screen window or do they actually determine the final render quality of say a MPEG2 render ? I ask, as I keep it set to AUTO Quality with NATIVE Frame Size.
I was shooting at 24pa (pa as Marcus told me too versus plain 24p) but I have now switched to 30p to hopefully decrease that artifact in the trees, most noticeable on pan shots with trees in the background. I shoot at DVCpro50 30p and edit on a 29.97 NTSC timeline in AVID which I then export the timeline as a Quick Time Reference file, I import that QT ref file into Vegas 8 pro and render using MPEG2, progressive at 29.97 with no pulldown inserted. The reults have been acceptable to me. I have TMPGE but it takes longer than Vegas 8 to render the MPEG2 when it is rendering a QT ref file.
Thanks

[mvb]

Hi, I am using the newest Raylight for Vegas 8, what does the various Blue Green Red buttons actuualy do ? Do they determine the quality of the preview screen window or do they actually determine the final render quality of say a MPEG2 render ? I ask, as I keep it set to AUTO Quality with NATIVE Frame Size.
I was shooting at 24pa (pa as Marcus told me too versus plain 24p) but I have now switched to 30p to hopefully decrease that artifact in the trees, most noticeable on pan shots with trees in the background. I shoot at DVCpro50 30p and edit on a 29.97 NTSC timeline in AVID which I then export the timeline as a Quick Time Reference file, I import that QT ref file into Vegas 8 pro and render using MPEG2, progressive at 29.97 with no pulldown inserted. The reults have been acceptable to me. I have TMPGE but it takes longer than Vegas 8 to render the MPEG2 when it is rendering a QT ref file.
Thanks

The Blue Green Red buttons have no effect in DVCPRO50.

If you're getting twitter in trees in DVCPRO50 try reducing the DETAIL setting, try -7 for a start.

[Patrick Forestell]

How about the Yellow button for dvcpro50 ?

Today I shot 30p and no tree articats twitter effect.

Thanks, Patrick

[Patrick Forestell]

Anyone have this Vegas 8 Pro problem: 4 or 5 times every project I get this error message "wanted a compression frame" while rendering a mpeg2 DVDarch template dvcpro50 on a 16:9 progressive timeline. When the error comes up the mpeg2 render halts and I have to click ok to get the error to leave (for awhile). I have since gone to Vegas 7 as it does not yield that 'wanted a compression frame' problem. Patrick

[ZarbeL]

Huuuu
i make test with my new HVX200, it's really great...
I edit on vegas... and i actually try the raylight codec...
it's really good... but, i 've some questions...
The raylight plugins is full quality? no loose?
What is the recommnded configuration for real time on vegas with 1080i
i've Athlon X2 6000 with 8600 nvidia grafic card 4 gig of ram... it's like 17 frame / second with no effect... and the charge of the dualcore processor dont go full (like 60 % on the two)
the limitation is hard disk acces? ( Raid configured for backup 2x500gig samsung )
i've an other question about vegas, how make a good balanced preview in 1080
i've two LCD 22" so i can make a good preview but the 1080 is larger than i can view on one monitor...
You preview on HDTV? or expensive HD video screen?
can i convert the 1080i 25p (i'm in pal) in native 1080p in a easy way ?
i've a lot of artefac in 1080i on vegas (interlaced line in movement) how i can get this clean on computer (reduce interlace flicker don't work for me on vegas)
thanks ;)

[Avenger007]

was it ever confirmed whether Vegas 8 supported 64 bit?

[ZarbeL]

it work on my XP64, but i'm not sure the x64 version is out ;)

[Avenger007]

So can you run it in XP64 and have vegas recognize more than 4gb of ram? Any compatibility issues?

[USLatin]

I didn't have the best of times with XP64... Vegas worked just fine as far as I remember, but there are so many things that are not suported at all or will give you problems that you might want to stick with 32 if only doing it for the RAM. If you are only dealing working with Vegas then even more so, since there is no performance gains whatsoever to be had from more than 2GB in Vegas.

If Vegas worked faster in 64 then there would be a definite advantage but unfortunately it doesn't. It seems we need to wait for Bill Gates or some other big external force to push this non demanding consumer market into going through the switch to 64 or software developers will continue developing in the 32-bit realm for years... who knows how long. It makes me wanna break something.

[Norm Sanders]

So I've got version 7, and really am only interested in Version 8 because of the CC potential I've heard about.

If I were to download the trial version, is it a FULL WORKING version, and simply shuts down after 15 days, or will it have water marks on the image & beeps in the sound?

[USLatin]

It is a full working version, no marks. Just in case check their site or get confirmation from at least one more person. Then after 30 days you can't run it in the same Windows installation until you buy it.

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks, since the CC is my only real draw to it, this would definitely be one of those "try before I buy" moments, and no better way than to try it than to use it to do the final CC of BERLIN .... but I don't want to import BERLIN into it (then having it forever saved as a Vegas 8 file - no longer working in Version 7) unless the trial was a full working version with no marks, beeps, etc.

[David Jimerson]

All you have to do is save a separate file and leave your current V7 file untouched.

[couryhouse]

has anyone come up with a good tutorial for the new titler in vegas 8?

it is confusing to me.

[jinks]

has anyone come up with a good tutorial for the new titler in vegas 8?

it is confusing to me.

There are some tutorials on youtube about the pro titler, search vegas tutorials. I hope that helps.

[couryhouse]

Thanks I did not even thinsk to check there!

[cbcoombs]

cant wait for this shit

[Bill Sullivan]

VAAST has a Vegas 8 update with Douglas Spotted Eagle. It primarily hits the high points. I'm a little confused with the Pro Type Titler myself. My display window doesn't react the way his does on the DVD (probably something I'm not doing) and it seems to get in the way. But, my main confusion is what makes this so dramatically better than what we had in Vegas 7. I haven't really worked with it much so there's probably more to it than I'm seeing. Good luck.

-Bill

[Eric Jaspers]

Hi,

I'm from Holland Amsterdam and one of a view users of Vegas 7. Somehow no one here seems to know Vegas. But anyway that is not my question. I'm trying to render a project uncompressed but i wonder is that is possible in Vegas and if yes can someone tell me how? Untill now my steps are Render > File: Video for Window (avi.) > Default Template (uncompressed) but this seems not to work???

[plainman007]

It works very well on my system. I do uncompressed renders all the time. Video for windows. Uncompressed. Yes i think that should be it. See if you have any project settings that might be causing the problem.

[Norm Sanders]

I also can render out uncompressed (doing exactly what you're stating) for huge AVI's, though if I'm storing them long term, I tend to go with the default compressed AVI setting, as it's still VERY high quality.

As far as what makes Vegas 8 better than Vegas 7? For me, it was all about the new color correction tool. I upgraded SPECIFICALLY because I wanted less banding in my color corrections, and was getting ready to release the last film, BERLIN, out on DVD, etc.

I upgraded and the new 32 bit floating point color correction was a MASSIVE improvement from the previous 8 or 10 bit (can't remember what it was) in 7. HUGE difference and well worth every penny for the upgrade.

[Yavor]

I've jumped ship..sold the XH-A1 and got a HF-s100. I'm sorry, tape and HDV are toast. The S100's output looks like still pictures from a 8.6MB digital camera..moving. Ahh, but then I load up an AVCHD clip into my Vegas 8 Pro and it stutters and slows down. PC? Dell 2.4ghz Quad-Core with 3GB, on-board video. So, what do I need...how many GB ram and what video card? Are there some tricks to enabling Vegas to work well with AVCHD? It would be great for someone to make a workflow sticky for Vegas and AVCHD. Tips & Tricks.....

Thanks! Bob :zombie_smiley:

[David Jimerson]

I've jumped ship..sold the XH-A1 and got a HF-s100. I'm sorry, tape and HDV are toast. The S100's output looks like still pictures from a 8.6MB digital camera..moving. Ahh, but then I load up an AVCHD clip into my Vegas 8 Pro and it stutters and slows down. PC? Dell 2.4ghz Quad-Core with 3GB, on-board video. So, what do I need...how many GB ram and what video card? Are there some tricks to enabling Vegas to work well with AVCHD? It would be great for someone to make a workflow sticky for Vegas and AVCHD. Tips & Tricks.....

Thanks! Bob :zombie_smiley:

Your specs are fine. Video card isn't used, so it doesn't matter. Vegas 9 will do you better. It's a software issue, not a hardware issue.

Though, you could try a striped RAID for your footage.