Miss South Carolina on Education

[Luis Caffesse]

She makes a GREAT argument.
By the end of her answer - I absolutely agree that our education system is in trouble.

Check it out (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww)



Edited to add:
In case you couldn't follow that.... here is a version with subtitles (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII&mode=related&search=)

[MattinSTL]

That is so funny I almost wet myself.

I know some people who are really into pagents... and I just don't get it. We have a world full of religious people who spend their entire lives worshipping the physical...

[J.R. Hudson]

Dumb ass.

(Hot though ...)

[Jeff Anderson]

thats special - I understand being nervous and all, but dang... shes just dumb.

And thanks for the subtitles link, it helped...

[Jeff Anderson]

(Hot though ...)
true, surely someone is willing to do her homework for her...

[snodart]

wow. That hurt.

[Luis Caffesse]

My favorite thing about this is that in a last ditch effort to save it she ends by saying...
"so we will be able to build up our future for our children."

Just awesome.
:thumbsup:

[Jeff Anderson]

yeah do it for the kids... whatever it is...

[JasonFox]

My wife (who sent me the link) and I have decided to move to Charleston. We really liked it when we honeymooned there; now we figure our nascent offspring should be able to dominate the other children. Or at least blind them with their inherited pastiness.

[J.R. Hudson]

Jason

Wilmington is where it's at baby. It's like little Howood here, not to mention half of the MOD TEAM live here :P

And it's on the ocean.

Tell your wife youre moving HERE

LOL

[JasonFox]

John,

If you can point me in the direction of an ad agency that's hiring, I'm there!

[Erik Olson]

Them South Carolina is as dumb as all get out.

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[Holy Harry]

Oh, she can be my geography teacher any day.

Man, I'd do geography ALL day, every day.

[Knoxworth]

Despite her hilarious response, none of you were boggled by the question?

The question says 20% of americans cannot locate the US on a map. Yet the question doesn't qualify the statistic with who was polled and how the study was performed. Are infants and toddlers included? Are we talking about adult legal citizens only? Ambiguous statistics are frustrating. They do a better job on Family Feud.

[JasonFox]

Hot chicks like that don't have to be smart or know how to make coherent sentences. Blame the people who've fallen all over themselves to get her by every obstacle she's come across so they could get in her pants

Undoubtedly true for the past couple of years, but I'm pretty sure I could've told you where the US was on a map when I was in the first grade. And it's knowledge that served me well when I found myself alone in the Italian Dolomites in the second grade. I just pointed to the US and they shipped me back.

[mrWr0ng]

knoxworth, most of the country can't locate Iraq on a world map let alone most of the major countries (and it goes without saying many of the smaller European nations), hell I saw a youtube video just a couple weeks ago where most people interviewed couldn't remember what month/day/year 9/11 happened on, or what city it happened in. This country is straight up ignorant and people like Miss SC, as fun as she is to laugh at, represents a HUGE chunk of the population

[Jazz Dog]

Even Slater was trying to keep from laughing at the end....

[ugafan]

it should be noted that miss south carolina finished 4th out of 51 contestants. that is scary.

[mikkowilson]

Oop, looks like she's going to get another stab at it on "Today" on Tuesday

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20053437,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines



- Mikko

[Drew Ott]

Oop, looks like she's going to get another stab at it on "Today" on Tuesday

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20053437,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines



- Mikko


I can't wait for this. I love her use of "such as" and "the Iraq".

[eignacio]

Oop, looks like she's going to get another stab at it on "Today" on Tuesday

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20053437,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines



- Mikko

Man, it's going be sooo f'd up if she's been preparing for the same question....then the Today Show gives her a completely different question. ha,ha.

[Drew Ott]

Man, it's going be sooo f'd up if she's been preparing for the same question....then the Today Show gives her a completely different question. ha,ha.

That'd be hilarious.

To be honest, I wish she screws up even worse this time.

[DerrickTempleton]

did i hear she got 4th out of 51 contestants? who the hell was the 51st contestant? now i'm doubting my own geography skills...

[DeSica]

I can't wait for this. I love her use of "such as" and "the Iraq".

I'm really interested in her South African angle. I think it's brilliant that she can see a link in some perceived deficiency in the U.S. educational system and the entire nation of South Africa.

She may be on to something.

[ugafan]

did i hear she got 4th out of 51 contestants? who the hell was the 51st contestant? now i'm doubting my own geography skills...

you didn't know they added a 51st state? where have you been?

[Beat Takeshi]

Run Forest, RUN!

[morten]

IMPORTANT! You must follow the steps of this post to get the full benefit of it,

Step 1
Before reading my post please test yourself on the National Geographic web site to see if you are as smart as you think you are:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ro...estion_01.html (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/roper2006/question_01.html)

Step 2
OK, if you have taken the test you can read on. If not, shame on you cheater. Go back to step one and take the test

Step 3
post your score

Step 4
Read my post:

The question is a direct reference to a study done by National Geographic. The study looked at the "geographic literacy" of young adults between 18 and 24 years of age. Here is the "short" version:

The National Geographic-Roper Public Affairs 2006 Geographic Literacy Study (http://www.forumforeducation.org/resources/index.php?item=143&page=32)

The study shows that:
respondents have a fairly good understanding of how to use a map
Six in ten (63%) cannot find Iraq on a map of the Middle East
Three-quarters cannot find Indonesia on a map
30% think the most heavily fortified border in the world is between the United States and Mexico (it's actually between North- and South Korea)
Majorities overestimate the total size of the U.S. population and fail to understand how much larger the population of China is
Three-quarters (74%) believe English is the most commonly spoken native language in the world, rather than Mandarin Chinese
Half or fewer of young men and women 18-24 can identify the states of New York or Ohio on a map (50% and 43%, respectively)Full survey here: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/roper2006/index.html

mor10
*knows how to do research on the internet*

[Drew Ott]

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/roper2006/question_01.html


Quick! everybody test yourself before you read some answers from morten's post.

Morten, edit your post and put the test yourself link at the top, please.

[ugafan]

19/20. i missed the exports question.

[Drew Ott]

I believe I missed 3 out of 20.

17/20.

I'm not sharing what I missed... kind of embarrassing.

[Drew Ott]

19/20. i missed the exports question.

I missed that too. I also missed the CSI question. I also missed the immigration question.

Not too bad I guess. I love geography.

[Jason Ramsey]

I missed the CSI question, only b/c I've never seen the program.

And, sadly I missed the immigration question.

[DeSica]

17/20

I missed the Katrina question, the exports question (I was 50/50 between the US and Japan), and the immigration growth question.

Considering that I'm not American, not too shabby.

[Luis Caffesse]

whew...
I got 18 out of 20.
I was a little worried at first, of course then i realized that if I did really poorly I just wouldn't post my score. :)

Not much of a 'geography' quiz though - until the last few questions.
CSI? What the hell was that question doing in there?

EDITED TO ADD:
I missed the Exports and the Immigration questions.
Apparently I do fine as long as people and things stay within their own countries...anything else throws me off.
:)

[Tom Marshall]

There's a difference between not being able to find Indonesia on a map and not being able to find the United States...

[Brandon Rice]

ROFL!!!!! Wow....

[Kirk Gillock]

18/20

(same here, luis - immigration and exporter. d'oh!)

It should keep track of your scores and give you a "report card" at the end.

[GenJerDan]

And everyone thinks the ability to find something on a map is important because...?

So when you're flying there, you can complain to pilot that he's taking the long way?

So what if there are a billion or so Chinese talking to each other? What is language is used by more different peoples? English or Spanish?

:)

[Kirk Gillock]

GenJerDan - Don't know. The geography test took all the brain cells I had. :(

:) :)

I have actually tried telling pilots they're taking the long way to our destination. But they kept yelling, "We must stop for fuel!" and something about, "Get out of the cockpit, you idiot!!!"

[mikkowilson]

I think I missed 3 .. what sort of a lame test doesn't count for you?


- Mikko ... has been to 15 or 16 countries so far and has 26 atlantic crossings to date, and has yet to be kicked out of the cockpit.

[oneinfiniteloop]

I loved the comment on YouTube that said:


that ding was the sound of her last neuron committing suicide

Priceless...read through 'em, they're hilarious.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

WOWWWWWWWW!

Awesome.

[Jared Meyer]

Ok, maybe we should cut her some slack :)
I think there's a good chance I would have been just as tongue tied and moronic on national tv...

Here's her defense from this morning on the Today Show. Cute girl and she doesn't seem all that dim. And yes, obviously she was well rehearsed after the first fiasco. But still. :)

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/120789.asp?from=blog_last3

[Jeff Anderson]

nope, still seems really dumb - "I have a good character" among others, just highlights our inability to teach our own language in this country.

[JasonFox]

nope, still seems really dumb - "I have a good character..."

Maybe she's a screenwriter.

[Jeff Anderson]

ha, maybe so... i think we should send her to the iraq or such as south africa... she can take all her characters there and do something to help the US buy maps cause not everybody has maps...

[Drew Ott]

"Everybody makes mistake."

It is 'mistakes'.

[Drew Ott]

Haha she wants to be a special FX designer for film and TV.

Maybe she reads DVXuser!

[Tom Marshall]

Would this be considered a youtube thread?

[Luis Caffesse]

Would this be considered a youtube thread?

yes, i'm guilty.

[Tom Marshall]

yes, i'm guilty.

Bad Luis... baaaaad Luis... :angry:

But seriously, what connotates a youtube link post? This is a good clip to watch and it's good to discuss. Does the fact that it's a youtube link make it a bad thing? I think this whole scenario needs some clarification...

[dregenthal]

did i hear she got 4th out of 51 contestants? who the hell was the 51st contestant? now i'm doubting my own geography skills...

Still don't know?

I will give you a hint . . . get your map out and start looking in the Carribean.

(they also have representation to the U.S. Congress).

[Luis Caffesse]

I think this whole scenario needs some clarification...

Well, here's a little clarification for you (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=108111)

[Isaac_Brody]

Basically it breaks down like this, not every thread in the cafe should be a youtube video. Some is cool, all is too much.

[ddp]

Haha she wants to be a special FX designer for film and TV.

Maybe she reads DVXuser!

Yeah and she'd probably ask stupid questions like "what's that clunking sound when my camera is off" or "how do I get that film look with my 100B" or maybe "100b vs 'insert latest camera model here', which one is better". Yeah she's so dumb she'd ask questions just like that........... uh, oops, wait a second:huh:


DDP

[jkc123]

Did you see how the hosts of the Today Show basically answered the questions for her. "Everything came at you at once didn't it?" and "It was like you were outside of yourself".

C'mon guys, ask the question and let her answer. At least give her a chance to make a fool of herself, or not, on her own.

[Jeff Anderson]

yeah she didnt say much - they were very nice to pretty much like such as carry the conversation for her and the iraq.

btw I am now inserting "like such as" and "and the iraq" in as many of my conversations as I can today... another slow day at work...

[Kirk Gillock]

The proud parents. :)
http://www.break.com/index/proud-parents-of-miss-south-carolina.html

[SeanEmer]

Anybody remember a recent TV commercial where an office worker is told to put a push pin on China? When he can't find it he ends up tearing down the entire world map 'by accident'. It's hilarious!

Sorry lol... this Miss DownSyndromeCarolina thing reminded me of that.

[David Jimerson]

I don't think beauty contestant answers have ever really been the bellwether for the state of education. It's possible to read a little too much into something.

:)

[Jeff Anderson]

a little bit of grammar wouldnt kill her though...

[mikkowilson]

The proud parents. :)
http://www.break.com/index/proud-parents-of-miss-south-carolina.html

"Speacher" :grin: :grin:


- Mikko

[mrWr0ng]

I don't think beauty contestant answers have ever really been the bellwether for the state of education. It's possible to read a little too much into something.

:)

They should be able to answer basic questions with complete sentences, though. What does it tell the younger kids when someone like her still manages to do so well in life despite being completely uneducated, simply because she's beautiful?

[David Jimerson]

Well . . .

It's actually a valuable lesson that they're going to learn one way or the other. Sad, but true. Not likely to change, either.

Still, it doesn't speak to the state of education in general, which is all I was getting at.

[Kirk Gillock]

It's obvious what happened. She practiced for the Question portion of the competition and had certain responses all prepared. Just like we do for job interviews. She didn't hear the question well, then got nervous, and just put all her prepared responses together. "I personally believe" and "Iraq" and "South Africa" and "for the children".

But she'll get more publicity from her mistake than the winner will ever get. (Who did win?)

Reminds me of Miss USA (or America), Vanessa Williams. She is the best known and most successful winner of the contests history. Mainly because they "stripped" her title after some naughty photos turned up.

I guess we find losers far more interesting than winners.


Edit: Even though I sympathize with her, she obviously failed the question. And the fact that she came in 4th shows how little the "Intelligence" portion of the contest matters and how degrading and pathetic all these beauty contests are. Eventually pageants like these will become history and we will be embarrassed that we ever had women walk on stage as we scored them on their beauty. Or, at least, I hope we will be embarrassed.

pk ...... not a fan of beauty contests

[STYLZ]

lmao wtf. I dribbled on my self. That was the greatest.

[mrWr0ng]

How does this not speak to the state of education? And how is this a lesson learned when this woman still came in 4th? She's still Miss South Carolina, she's still got lots and lots of exposure and people falling all over themselves to make way for her (Today show hosts answering her questions, for example). People like her are role models for younger kids and they see this kind of "Don't learn, just be beautiful!" attitude, and you know what? It works.

[David Jimerson]

How does this not speak to the state of education?

As I said above, answers given by pageant contestants have always been vapid, with some exceptions. If you only looked at academic competitions (quiz bowls, that sort of thing), you might come away with a different perception about the state of education. It's all about the general pool you're drawing water from. In more modern times, pageant organizers have said they value academic skills above "beauty," but come on now . . . who really believes that?

Now, this is an extreme case, but its extremeness ought to bolster what I'm trying to say -- it's the individual, and not necessarily indicative of the whole system.



And how is this a lesson learned when this woman still came in 4th? She's still Miss South Carolina, she's still got lots and lots of exposure and people falling all over themselves to make way for her (Today show hosts answering her questions, for example). People like her are role models for younger kids and they see this kind of "Don't learn, just be beautiful!" attitude, and you know what? It works.It's a lesson learned, because it's generally the way the world works. Beauty gets you a long way, even in the complete absence of any other marketable trait.

Do I prefer it that way? Of course not. But it's how the world has always been, and is likely always to be. Pretty people simply get themselves in doors more easily.

[GenJerDan]

Do I prefer it that way? Of course not. But it's how the world has always been, and is likely always to be. Pretty people simply get themselves in doors more easily.

Fer sure. Look at me, for instance. :)


That being said, and not having seen anything of her other than the pageant question, that...um...answer...really wasn't indicative of anything other than a real lack of the ability to think on her feet.

I honestly don't think I would have done much better. Although my response to being sideswiped by a question would most likely be drool and obscenities, rather than nonsense.

[Knoxworth]

I wouldn't have done much better for, as I stated, I would be too distracted by the source of the statistic.

[Knoxworth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HoVFr3-Nhs&feature=bz100


Now that we all made fun of her, does anybody want to offer Miss South Carolina a job in the industry?

[snodart]

Edit: Even though I sympathize with her, she obviously failed the question. And the fact that she came in 4th shows how little the "Intelligence" portion of the contest matters and how degrading and pathetic all these beauty contests are. Eventually pageants like these will become history and we will be embarrassed that we ever had women walk on stage as we scored them on their beauty. Or, at least, I hope we will be embarrassed.

Bingo. Nicely put.

[MarcusX]

Question 2 of 20

Which of these cities is the setting for the original television series CSI: Crime Scene Investigation?
Huh? I've never seen the series, what has this question to do with geography??
(I know, I'm late :) )

[mikkowilson]

At least they didn't ask where "CSI:Miami" takes place...


- Mikko

[Knoxworth]

Put an end to such inhumane practices as wet t-shirt contests as well. Humans are such vile beings. Back to sitting on logs I say.



I think the CSI question may be a separate poll to itself regarding correlations to pop culture VS. geography awareness.... mayhaps?

[ugafan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HoVFr3-Nhs&feature=bz100


Now that we all made fun of her, does anybody want to offer Miss South Carolina a job in the industry?

most definitely. if i need to hire an actress to play a dumb blond, she's perfect!

[Jason Ramsey]

What rotates around the earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiUSqtsm-l0

[DeSica]

Now that was sad. The audience was even sadder. 58%??

[Knoxworth]

Wow, the age old question. :)

[mikkowilson]

HAHAHA!! Who could possibly out dumb "dumb americans"?? Why the FRENCH of course! :grin: :evil:
Oh that's funny.


I love the host's face at 1:58 ... he's got that "you have got to be kidding me" look.

- Mikko

[DeSica]

I honestly don't think I would have done much better. Although my response to being sideswiped by a question would most likely be drool and obscenities, rather than nonsense.

Sideswiped? What?

It was the question portion of the pageant. Was she surpirsed that she was asked a question? Has she never seen a pageant?

Pretty much the only thing a person has to do in preparation for the question part of one of these contests is to stay focused and pay attention. All she had to do was listen to the question, and she still messed it up.

The whole Today thing was a joke. She would have been better off saying English isn't her first language, or that she had major surgery that day and was heavily medicated.

I'm impressed that people like this can even feed themselves.

[GenJerDan]

She wasn't expecting that question. Studied for the wrong test...a common failure. :)

[mrWr0ng]

i'd hazard a guess that the question she was expecting was something along the lines of, "Do you believe ALL of the contestants are beautiful, or just SOME of them?

[ugafan]

What rotates around the earth?



wow. just wow. i assume half the audience also believes the earth is flat.

[JasonFox]

wow. just wow. i assume half the audience also believes the earth is flat.

It is in Texas.

[J.R. Hudson]

Like it matters

It's okay baby, give me a hug. Nooo, not there.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

What rotates around the earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiUSqtsm-l0

OMG.

The miss south carolina thing = sad
the French thing is shocking, a whole room full of random people and 58% don't know that the sun is the center of the universe and the earth's only orbital is the moon?

I was thinking the punchline of the youtube video would be that the audience would return a 100% vote for the moon and the guy would feel like a dope for needing their help ... but, wow. Glad no one asked me to bet money on what the audience would say - never would have predicted that ... wow.

[Knoxworth]

Jack Daniel Stanley: I'm just as shocked that you think the sun is the center of the universe.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

haha, OK, I meant solar system then, I would get it right on a multiple choice game show though :laugh:

I should have been more exactical.

[Mark Harris]

I love that 56% of the audience said the moon. WOW.

[SeanEmer]

Maybe the audience was mad at him for being such an idiot and somehow decided to sabotage him as a group... Regardless, that made me laugh for a good five minutes. I also remember seeing a celebrity jeopardy clip where none of the celebrities knew what the 2nd planet from the sun was. I think carson daily said it was Mars....

[DeSica]

The French thing almost makes sense.

Why wouldn't they think the Sun revolved around the Earth when many of them think the Earth revolves around France?

[Grug]

What did she actually say? I was trying to figure out some strain of a sentence that might explain what she was attempting to communicate... oh well, I'm sure she'll make a great trophy wife some day.

[Knoxworth]

Well I mean she was right that some americans live in places like South Africa and Iraq. But that's hardly where the education problem lies.

[hvpz]

Well, like all others countries we have our "dumb ass"... :)

I just don't understand why they feel the need to show us how ignorants and stupids they are...

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

...I just don't understand why they feel the need to show us how ignorants and stupids they are...

because we are Americans and we found evidence that people in other countries might actually be dumber than us. :)

now we just need to find some videos of incredibly fat and lazy people from other countries

[GenJerDan]

Nothing will ever surprise me again after seeing a woman on 5th Grader be very sure that there were 352 feet in 2.5 yards, then decide to go with the girl's answer of 78 feet instead.

(Maybe it was 358. I was laughing too hard.)

[Tom Marshall]

Honestly, how do people actually get by in this society? That's what amazes me... Seriously. How do they function? Natural selection clearly isn't working out the way it was intended...

[JasonFox]

Honestly, how do people actually get by in this society? That's what amazes me... Seriously. How do they function? Natural selection clearly isn't working out the way it was intended...

And in a related note, I just got back from Wal-Mart.

[WaveRiderXIX]

I LOVE how Mario is trying to hold in from busting up lol. That dude should get a pay raise. I would have lost it :)


The dumb chick should have just said... "You know what? I didn't know that... What a shocking statistic. I am shocked." ...and then kept her mouth shut.

and left it at that. Had she actually paid attention to the question, she probably would have said something that would have made at least SOME sense to a child in 1st grade.

[WaveRiderXIX]

Speaking of... I think she should take some speech training from this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39b7v1wzfg

[DeSica]

At least he has the drugs and the 'roids as a semblance of an excuse.

Plus he's nuts.

Had to believe that guy has become this guy....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TLdhN886Io

[Tom Marshall]

And in a related note, I just got back from Wal-Mart.

Come on, Jason. I want to hear a good story... :beer:

[Tom Marshall]

At least he has the drugs and the 'roids as a semblance of an excuse.

Plus he's nuts.

Had to believe that guy has become this guy....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TLdhN886Io

Wow, talk about trying to make a guy look like a moron. The interviewer was an a-hole and he's the one who ended up looking bad. Not very cool of that guy at all.

[Drew Ott]

That whole Fox interview made me feel bad for everybody.

I hate interviewers who won't let the people answer the question to the fullest.

[Tom Marshall]

Not only did he not let the guy finish a statement - it seems he went out of his way to make people like him (athletes who use 'roids) look like unintelligent morons who can't even answer simple questions. He kept saying "You're not getting the point!", but he WAS getting the gist of the questions and answering them honestly.

[DeSica]

Not only did he not let the guy finish a statement - it seems he went out of his way to make people like him (athletes who use 'roids) look like unintelligent morons who can't even answer simple questions. He kept saying "You're not getting the point!", but he WAS getting the gist of the questions and answering them honestly.

Isn't that the standard modus operandi with Sean Hannity?

Now, Bill O'Reilly...

[Drew Ott]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F226lI-lo5M&feature=bz100

funny

[Tom Marshall]

God bless youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WbOUwbwr2w

[Knoxworth]

Soundbites? Really?