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Barry_S
08-16-2007, 09:50 PM
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/913/1187322545.jpg

Barry_S
08-16-2007, 09:50 PM
Rules


The festival category is a short film with the theme of DARKNESS.

All films must be no longer than 5 (five) minutes total. The following format must be followed. Film Title (any format), body of film, 10 seconds of credits (which must clearly acknowledge dvxuser.com).

All films must include a glass of red wine in at least one scene.
All cameras are eligible to participate and for prizes.
Content must be "R" rated or lower.

No copyright violations, you *must* use licensed or royalty-free music
All filmmakers agree to grant DVXuser.com and its agents non-exclusive rights for their films to appear on a DVD or for DVXuser-sanctioned public screenings. Deliverables must be formatted as 16:9 or 2:35 aspect ratio in the requested file format (to be announced).

Contest open to every country and films may be in any language. Non-English films must have English subtitles.
All films must be made between August 18, 2007 and October 26, 2007 and must not have been publicly screened prior to entry. The entry deadline is 12 midnight Pacific Time on Friday, October 26, 2007 and no films or revisions to films will be accepted after this date. Entry instructions will be posted closer to the deadline.
Films may only be promoted on DVXuser.com before screening and no actual footage from films may be screened prior to the DVXuser screening. No promotion on external web sites is allowed until after the screening has been completed.
Films may be entered in other festivals as long as they aren’t screened prior to October 31, 2007.
Users may enter their film anonymously, but must clear this with me before they post their film thread in the this forum.
All films will be prescreened by DVXFest staff for compliance with festival rules.

No entry fee
Prizes will be announced

Jared Meyer
08-16-2007, 09:52 PM
Cool poster Barry! Can't wait to hear more.

mikkowilson
08-16-2007, 10:02 PM
sweet! :thumbsup:


- Mikko

cinealma
08-16-2007, 10:04 PM
Alright now! Can't wait for the details.

Brandon Rice
08-16-2007, 10:23 PM
ah yeah, I knew it! :)

Kholi
08-16-2007, 10:32 PM
I think the best thing about this fest is that it's called ALL HALLOWS.

-swoon-

bosindy
08-16-2007, 10:39 PM
hal·lowed, hal·low·ing, hal·lows

1. To make or set apart as holy.
2. To respect or honor greatly; revere.

Looks like a fun one, although I am probably taking it too literally.

cinealma
08-16-2007, 10:42 PM
hal·lowed, hal·low·ing, hal·lows

1. To make or set apart as holy.
2. To respect or honor greatly; revere.

Looks like a fun one, although I am probably taking it too literally.

It's POPEfest after all!:)

tmpafilmer25
08-16-2007, 11:01 PM
nice poster! looks to me like a chupacabra biting someone's hand.

REHov520
08-16-2007, 11:35 PM
all deathly hallows?

ConspiracyPenguin
08-17-2007, 12:33 AM
Poster looks great! I hope we'll have time on our schedule to get into this one. Can't wait for the details!

Drew Ott
08-17-2007, 01:01 AM
I'm pumped for details.

I'm actually trying to enter this one.

Attic6
08-17-2007, 01:38 AM
Stoked! Amped to enter my first fest on this one.

wallachiaproductions
08-17-2007, 01:48 AM
All Hallows Fest? uffffff i am in Romania, what on earth can i use for inspiration???? :evil:

Attic6
08-17-2007, 02:31 AM
Dracula!

wallachiaproductions
08-17-2007, 03:04 AM
Who????:violin:

mikkowilson
08-17-2007, 03:18 AM
http://kelty.rice.edu/375/images/dracula/chocula.jpg


- Mikko

Ki-Ki
08-17-2007, 04:28 AM
Interesting poster, and looks like an interesting fest.

Sven
08-17-2007, 06:02 AM
I'm looking forward to this one.

Mark Harris
08-17-2007, 06:59 AM
It's POPEfest after all!:)

I hope not, cause I don't truck with no papists.

Jaime V
08-17-2007, 07:00 AM
freakin' sweet! Can't wait for the details!

Zoidoid
08-17-2007, 10:59 AM
Ooh. This sounds interesting. I wonder if the title "All Hallows Fest" is really as unrestrictive as it sounds. It would be neat if the entries didn't have to be classified as "horror" so long as they were all in the spirit of Halloween.

Kholi
08-17-2007, 11:39 AM
Well, the spirit of Halloween isn't about horror. It's essentially about the day of the dead and the atmosphere.

Might not be this way, but almost feels like any story about someone in a costume at halloween time (Jack O Lanterns, etc) seems to fit the bill.

Spooky, Creepy, Eerie, Adventurous, Comedy... maybe it'll be an open fest but with a Halloween theme?

Funny Halloween Party?

cinealma
08-17-2007, 01:04 PM
Seems to me like it's going to be HorrorFest 2, but now they're making it an annual thing and calling it "All Hallows Fest".

Aldo Baggins
08-17-2007, 01:20 PM
We need the requirements it's kill'n us.... Need more .... must have more......
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!

Larry Rutledge
08-17-2007, 01:20 PM
Don't quote me on this as I'm also still waiting on details from Barry. But the way I understand it, zoidoid and Kholi are right.

It will be open genre, but have the requirement of being about halloween.

Of course, don't start building your entry based on this information, in case Barry changes it up before the official rules are posted. But that is how I understand this fest will be.

janusz
08-17-2007, 01:26 PM
all deathly hallows?

YES!!!!! all DEATHLY HALLOWS indeed! Word up, to all HP fans!

Kholi
08-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Don't quote me on this as I'm also still waiting on details from Barry. But the way I understand it, zoidoid and Kholi are right.

It will be open genre, but have the requirement of being about halloween.

Of course, don't start building your entry based on this information, in case Barry changes it up before the official rules are posted. But that is how I understand this fest will be.


That's what I'm figurin'. Which is really cool because you can do Halloween Drama if you want.

Weeeeee.

Jaime V
08-17-2007, 01:45 PM
Or Halloween Mockumentary...or Halloween Comedy...or Halloween Channel 5 Kung-fu extravaganza!!!! The choices! They're limitless!

Thanks for the tidbits of info Larry, it soothes us somewhat while we wait :-)

Mattykins
08-17-2007, 04:45 PM
Ooh, I should make a musical. Haha, afterall, I have a full production team in Ithaca, and we are a music conservatory. Haha, I've been wanting to do a musical for a while.

And I am totally entering this fest. (not just talk this time) haha.

-Matt

Brandon Rice
08-17-2007, 05:12 PM
Hey everyone, I'm game for helping out as DP, Writer, or Producer on one of these projects... I can't do an entire one myself, but I'm always game for teaming up...

Mark Harris
08-17-2007, 06:18 PM
I for one want to see Taylor Bryson make a come-back.

dvpixl
08-17-2007, 07:47 PM
HP LOVECRAFT ok?

Ted Arabian
08-17-2007, 08:17 PM
Excellent! I love the theme. Halloween has always been my favorite!!! (even more so than Christmas... yeah, yeah... I was the kid that pretty much got socks and clothes. But of course, it's not about the gifts, right? Try telling that to an 8 year old!)

Seriously... very glad to hear this news! Awaiting the details!

Barry_S
08-17-2007, 08:51 PM
Ok, lads n' lassies--the rules are up. The specified theme is up to the filmmaker to interpret, but PM me or post if you have any questions. Good luck to all you lost souls!

Beat Takeshi
08-17-2007, 09:44 PM
hmmmm Darkness, what camera is best in low light again?

tmnt
08-18-2007, 01:02 AM
Panavision Genesis. I'll rent you mine, I own twelve of them and eight ferraris.

Ki-Ki
08-18-2007, 05:31 AM
Users may enter their film anonymously, but must clear this with me before they post their film thread in the AdFest forum.


Just thought i'd point that out, gives me something to do =]

Does anyone have a copy of the previous horror fest entries by any chance?

mikkowilson
08-18-2007, 05:36 AM
HorrorFest? In my archive: http://dvxuser.mikkowilson.com/horrorfest/

Wasn't exactly at halloween though.

- Mikko

Ki-Ki
08-18-2007, 06:00 AM
Ah thank's man,

Shawn Philip Nelson
08-18-2007, 10:15 AM
hmmmm Darkness, what camera is best in low light again?


My Red One :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Tom Marshall
08-18-2007, 06:15 PM
My Red One :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Did you get it already???

Shawn Philip Nelson
08-18-2007, 06:18 PM
I'm in the very first batch and they are expected to ship at the end of this month!

JasonFox
08-18-2007, 06:39 PM
It's POPEfest after all!:)

YES! Glad my ideas are finally being taken seriously around here.

Although I'll probably go with something focusing on this:

http://cache.idolator.com/assets/resources/2006/10/hawkinsride.jpg

AmyO
08-18-2007, 08:01 PM
Awesome fest idea! I was worried it would be Horror Fest again. I'm not too into horror flicks, and wouldn't have the time to pull together a decent one. But this "darkness" concept, that could be interesting. I'll give it a thought and see if I can give DVX Fest another go. Can't wait for October 31! :)

Shawn Philip Nelson
08-18-2007, 08:17 PM
Wow, this one is so wide open! Gosh, given artistic interpretation, I could declare nearly any movie ever made as being in the theme of "darkness" including the entirety of the Disney catalog....so really the only requirement is a glass of red wine.

Kholi
08-18-2007, 08:46 PM
Correct, Shawneous.

Now that everyone understands, yay!

Barry_S
08-18-2007, 08:49 PM
The tone of your film should be dark lest ye be savaged by ye fellow dvxusers.

Barry_Green
08-18-2007, 10:15 PM
Barry_S is the fest administrator and rule-setter, so all interpretations should comply with his decree!

Still a rather open fest (no specific genre defined, etc) but the ruling is that it should have a dark tone. Something to do with Halloween would probably be most fitting as well. But that doesn't mean it's relegated to zombies or horror or gore... interpret as you will, and if you have questions, run your proposal by Barry_S for a quick compliance check.

Cryogenic Filmworks
08-18-2007, 10:43 PM
Link (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1027681&postcount=54)

I'm glad Barry Green brought up Chocolate Rain, because a very very evil part of me wanted to do ChocolateRainFest. This is not that fest. All Hallow's Eve is another name for Halloween, and yes, the films will be shown Halloween weekend. So that should give some idea of how to interpret the theme of darkness. I was just discussing the fest with my 11 year old daughter and I think she summed it up nicely--"The films should creep you out".

Your film should evoke a feeling of something dark, but they don't require zombies, monsters or serials killers--not that there's anything wrong with that. :) A film like Eraserhead takes you to a very dark place. Brazil, a black comedy, is thematically dark. So for this fest we have a unifying tone to the films, rather than a specific genre.

I'm guessing that maybe a Rod Serling era Twilight Zone style would work.... Some of them creep you out.

Roy Harvey
08-19-2007, 02:44 PM
I'm pretty new to DVXuser, so I don't quite know how I should go about entering. Can I enter? If so, where do I do it?

Drew Ott
08-19-2007, 03:20 PM
I'm pretty new to DVXuser, so I don't quite know how I should go about entering. Can I enter? If so, where do I do it?


Anybody can enter, shooting an any camera.

All you have to do is finish by October 26th and submit your film. Be sure to read the specifications first though, so you are eligible for a prize.

mikkowilson
08-19-2007, 03:21 PM
Yes you can enter.
Simply make a film according to the rules & guidelines set at the start of this thread. Then watch for instruction on how to deliver your (encode & upload) your film closer to the deadline.


Take a read of one of the past 'fests section's stickies to get an idea of how things happen.

- Mikko

Roy Harvey
08-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Thanks Alot. I'll be sure to make one.

Tom Marshall
08-19-2007, 04:53 PM
The tone of your film should be dark lest ye be savaged by ye fellow dvxusers.

Barry's a pirate? :cheesy:

Barry_S
08-19-2007, 06:01 PM
What?

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/913/1187567839.jpg

Mark Johnson
08-19-2007, 11:09 PM
I'm pretty new to DVXuser, so I don't quite know how I should go about entering. Can I enter? If so, where do I do it?


As the newest entrant, you must wear "The Shirt" during your first shooting day. (Ask Tommy and he will make arrangements for you in this regard)

brian.wells
08-20-2007, 11:57 AM
Can I post concept art when I'm working on the project? Or is it only finished projects to be displayed?

J.R. Hudson
08-20-2007, 05:17 PM
All films must include a glass of red wine in at least one scene.

Oh yeah; that's hard

( HEH HEH )

Mark Harris
08-20-2007, 05:20 PM
Oh yeah; that's hard

( HEH HEH )

Uh JH, "a glass of red wine in at least one scene" does not mean a glass of red wine in the director's hand in every scene. Just so the rules are clear. :)

HorseFilms
08-20-2007, 05:21 PM
Uh JH, "a glass of red wine in at least one scene" does not mean a glass of red wine in the director's hand in every scene. Just so the rules are clear. :)

Damn! I guess I'm out.:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Edgen
08-20-2007, 09:55 PM
OOooooo.. ..oooooOO

I'm in. :)

/j

Beat Takeshi
08-20-2007, 09:58 PM
Heh, I just emailed you...

Herman Witkam
08-21-2007, 01:46 AM
[..]

Good to see you around here, Mr. Kitano! How about a dark yakuza flick? :D

Brandon Rice
08-21-2007, 12:33 PM
OOooooo.. ..oooooOO

I'm in. :)

/j

Awesome Justin! :thumbsup:

Hope you're still up for some scoring as well :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Brandon Rice
08-21-2007, 12:34 PM
Oh yeah; that's hard

( HEH HEH )

LOL...

My film is ABOUT a glass of wine ;)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
08-21-2007, 01:01 PM
Justin, your PM box is full.

Mike

Brandon Rice
08-21-2007, 01:18 PM
I sent you an email btw Justin :)

Mattykins
08-21-2007, 06:25 PM
hmm, perhaps grape juice would be better suited for us Under 21ers in a college setting. I don't know how easy it will be to get a wine glass...

Hmm, we shall see, but I am totally looking forward to this.

Simon Höfer
08-21-2007, 07:46 PM
It is always shocking for me that you cant drink alcohol until the age of 21 O_o

DC
08-21-2007, 09:45 PM
Hmm, sounds good. I may have to enter this one if I have the time to spare . . .

Attic6
08-22-2007, 04:24 AM
Does creating a group on facebook to organise the people involved with production count as marketing it outside this forum and disqualify me? just want to know before i do so/don't do so...

Thanks

Jimmy

Mark Johnson
08-22-2007, 07:41 AM
hmm, perhaps grape juice would be better suited for us Under 21ers in a college setting. I don't know how easy it will be to get a wine glass...

Hmm, we shall see, but I am totally looking forward to this.


In our case, Tim's sobriety is both necessary and highly in question. Thus, we are using a CG wineglass in our production and have locked the liquor cabinet. As a nice side benefit, the onset of delirium tremens on his part has markedly helped with our script ideas.

Rodney V. Smith
08-22-2007, 04:22 PM
Awesomely sweet, I shall prepare my script and bottle of wines immediatley! i like darkness....

Tom Marshall
08-22-2007, 06:35 PM
In our case, Tim's sobriety is both necessary and highly in question. Thus, we are using a CG wineglass in our production and have locked the liquor cabinet. As a nice side benefit, the onset of delirium tremens on his part has markedly helped with our script ideas.

For some reason, I have this vision of "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" running through my head right now...

Barry_S
08-22-2007, 08:49 PM
Sounds ok to me as long it's not promoting the film here.


Does creating a group on facebook to organise the people involved with production count as marketing it outside this forum and disqualify me? just want to know before i do so/don't do so...

Thanks

Jimmy

ConspiracyPenguin
08-26-2007, 11:46 AM
Ah, sweet. I really want to enter this one. But I'll have to see if Shaun and Rick are up to it this time as we're all pretty busy right now. I hope We can do it! Good luck to everyone!

Beat Takeshi
08-27-2007, 11:24 PM
Why was it cut to 5 minutes again?

Brandon Rice
08-27-2007, 11:25 PM
Not sure... but I'm cool with it... cause my script will only be about 4 min. long.

Tom Marshall
08-27-2007, 11:30 PM
Why was it cut to 5 minutes again?

I'm wondering the same thing...

Brandon Rice
08-27-2007, 11:38 PM
So it's easier to watch all the films! :)

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-27-2007, 11:39 PM
Supposedly it was always 5 with a "grace minute".

In other words 5 is strongly suggested, but make better movie at 5:40 rather than cram a movie that should be 5:40 into 5:00.

Hopefully that's still the case. The extra minute makes a huge difference.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-27-2007, 11:45 PM
So it's easier to watch all the films! :)

Of course there are storage and time issues, but it is not just an issue of finding a story that fits 5.

I find there's are 1 minute film form, a 3 minute film form. And then there's a vague 4 to 7 minute form where you can do a bit more.

With the 6 minutes you get a nice 1.5 minutes / pages setup, up to 3 minutes/pages of developing conflict / middle, and 1.5 minutes / pages to honor the climax fully and have some sort of small Denouement or falling action.

It's also really hard to judge page to minute count in the ultra short form. It averages out over a feature. But not necessarily for these less than 10 page scripts. So you may shoot your 5 page script. Then be faced with seriously compromising it because it really translates to 5:30 when properly shot, performed, and edited.

Brandon Rice
08-27-2007, 11:49 PM
Naw man, was joking... I'm for whatever... I do like seeing nice slick shorts though :)

Beat Takeshi
08-28-2007, 12:09 AM
I guess its 1:3:1 then now.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-28-2007, 12:48 AM
yeah it just seems much harder to give things full value like that, just MHO.
maybe I am full of beans.

Barry_Green
08-28-2007, 08:37 AM
I'm totally with Jack on the notion that there's different film forms that fit different running times. I've argued repeatedly that people who are clamoring for more time are approaching the festival wrong -- you don't want to try to cram a 20-minute story into five or six minutes, that'll just cripple your film.

There's definitely an art form to the 30-second commercial, and the highest-rated television program on earth is a showcase specifically for that. The 60-second commercial is an entirely different animal. And the 2-3 minute film is totally different from that, in scope and in type of project that you approach.

Thing is, there's got to be a cutoff -- there's got to be rules. Someone asked if their film came in 10 seconds over, is that a problem? Why, yes -- your film will be disqualified if it's 10 seconds over. It'll also be disqualified if it's one frame over. There are rules, and there are rules for a reason. What if someone said "I've got this incredible idea for a film, it's gonna be the best ever, but I can't fit a wine glass into it, so can I just get a waiver on that rule?" Of course not.

About the five-to-six minute issue: when we first set the time limit, it was five minutes. People had problems complying with that, their stories stretched further, so we implemented a "grace minute" that let you go up to six minutes, while being strongly encouraged to stick to five minutes. After that, people took six minutes for granted and we started getting entries that exceeded six minutes. We set the rule at six minutes firm, any longer than that and you'd be disqualified.

Barry_S has set this fest at 5 minutes. If there's any "grace minute" or extension, it would be up to him to implement that change. Don't count on it unless/until he says otherwise.

For those who simply cannot make their film fit in the running time restrictions, I humbly suggest that you're probably planning the wrong film for this festival -- or the wrong festival for that film. Stay true to the art form that your film dictates -- don't try to cram something into a timeframe that it won't fit -- but if it exceeds our running time, don't submit it here. It'll just be disqualified if it runs too long, and if it's chopped to fit the runtime it probably won't flow properly and therefore wouldn't place highly anyway. Try to embrace the unique artform that our running time dictates. If that means abandoning your current idea and developing another one, then that's probably the better course of action rather than hampering the needs of your existing idea.

Beat Takeshi
08-28-2007, 09:23 AM
But i have a 6 minute car crash thats integral to the story ;)

Barry_S
08-28-2007, 09:52 AM
The rule specifies 5 minutes and that's a hard limit, including credits. After AdFest, I saw how tight some of you could edit and frankly the fest was getting to be a bit long with six minute entries. I've noticed some people dragging out titles and credits and being a little sloppy with editing and story lines. These aren't really supposed to mini-features, so let's see if we can tighten everything up with our original format of 5 minutes. For a lot of you, that'll be cutting 30 seconds of overlong titles/credits and shaving a couple seconds off of your shots--likely for the better.

Barry_Green
08-28-2007, 09:54 AM
But i have a 6 minute car crash thats integral to the story ;)
Hey, that's great, but again -- not for this festival.

But I think we'd all want to see how you could stretch a car crash out to six minutes... :thumbsup:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
08-28-2007, 10:07 AM
Hey, that's great, but again -- not for this festival.

But I think we'd all want to see how you could stretch a car crash out to six minutes... :thumbsup:
Didn't they do that in Talladega Nights? Slowmo crash... went to commercial... back to more slowmo crash. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Beat Takeshi
08-28-2007, 01:49 PM
oh, I was planning on dragging it with the jeep for 6 minutes. The slo-mo would save gas.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-28-2007, 02:51 PM
:crybaby:

Mark Harris
08-28-2007, 02:55 PM
Hey, that's great, but again -- not for this festival.


Ummm...as long as the driver has a glass of red wine, like, what's the problem, man?

Barry_Green
08-28-2007, 02:56 PM
He wants to make it 6 minutes long. If he could trim it to five, then it'd be eligible. :thumbsup:

mikkowilson
08-28-2007, 05:41 PM
Maybe cut the airbag scene?


- Mikko

Zim
08-31-2007, 08:36 PM
My working title is "4 minutes and 59 seconds"

Robbie Comeau
09-01-2007, 09:14 PM
do we have to have a glass of red wine?

J.R. Hudson
09-01-2007, 09:15 PM
http://dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=106975

What do you think ?

Robbie Comeau
09-01-2007, 09:18 PM
i meant have as in <i>have</i> cuz i cant fit it anywhere, i cud have it lying on the gorund lol

Drew Ott
09-02-2007, 01:36 AM
That would work.

mikkowilson
09-02-2007, 02:47 AM
"in the film" simply means that it has to be clearly visible in a shot somewhere. The context in which it's presented is irrlevant.

- Mikko

Zim
09-02-2007, 07:29 AM
I hope you allow more than one file format. I request .mov


Also does someone know the best place to download H.264? I guess I could just buy QT 7Pro.

Robbie Comeau
09-02-2007, 12:26 PM
Can you use Final Cut Pro Zim? Or do you have to have a plug-in of some sort...

Jason Ramsey
09-02-2007, 12:30 PM
Time for you to start searching Como.

Jason

Robbie Comeau
09-02-2007, 12:33 PM
Hey, at least I used proper spelling and grammer.

Jason Ramsey
09-02-2007, 12:39 PM
First time for everything.... and that includes searching.

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Zim
09-03-2007, 02:15 AM
Can you use Final Cut Pro Zim? Or do you have to have a plug-in of some sort...

No I can use it.

Mike@AF
09-08-2007, 01:37 AM
Can I get some clarification on the rules.... or maybe this is just a general qualification question.

I've just shot my short film and it's actually double the time limit allowed (time limits are very restricting). Can I cut it down to the 5 min limit and enter part of the full film? What if it's entered in 2 different festivals at the same time, one 5 min version here and one full length version at the other? They have a very different meaning between the 2 versions and so would also have 2 different titles.

Jason Ramsey
09-08-2007, 01:42 AM
I'm not one of the fest masters, so this is unofficial until Barry_S or Larry_R confirm or deny:

You *can* cut the film down to fit the time restriction, though I wouldn't recommend it. As Barry Green said earlier in this thread somewhere that perhaps that film isn't meant for this fest. Better to do something that fits the time restrictions of the fest more appropriately. Seems like you might be shooting yourself in the foot a bit there (but that's just personal opinion).

You may enter the film in other festivals so long as it is NOT publicly screened prior to this fest finishing.

Jason

Mike@AF
09-08-2007, 02:15 AM
It actually works really well in its 5 min form... more like 4:30. I'm actually surprised by that... sort of, not really. I understand the "NOT publicly" part for other fests, but what if it's a different cut at the same time or before and with a different title? 2 whole characters were cut in the shorter version.

Jason Ramsey
09-08-2007, 09:37 AM
You'll probably want to ask Barry_S for clarification on that. You might want to pm him about it as your question starts to get a little more gray and only he or Larry R could answer it definitively.

Later,
Jason

Barry_S
09-08-2007, 12:37 PM
It actually works really well in its 5 min form... more like 4:30. I'm actually surprised by that... sort of, not really. I understand the "NOT publicly" part for other fests, but what if it's a different cut at the same time or before and with a different title? 2 whole characters were cut in the shorter version.


Directly from the rules---"...no actual footage from films may be screened prior to the DVXuser screening".

You're free to enter in other fests prior to All Hallows Fest, as long as noting is screened before the fest.

HaroonGhauree
09-09-2007, 12:59 AM
I have a few questions here:

Q1: What If my shoot is less than 5min. ? (A stupid question, but I still need a nod)
Q2: Other Festivals do apply the same rule i.e. Must not be screened publicly before! I'm willing to submit my short to other festivals and they may reject my short due to the public screening at DVXFest! Isn't it a rigid rule for any fest ?
Q3: I'm willing to show it to my office collegues i.e. a close-house screening. Can I do that ?
Q4: Red Wine is not accessible here in Pakistan. I may use Red Grape juice instead. Is it OK ?
Q5: Is it really necessary to look like a Red Wine, can't I make it any red liquid of varying thickness or viscosity ?
Q6: I want to make my title and credits a bit longer than 10-sec. time. Can I do that ?
Q7: It is not possible for me to buy Instand-HD or anything which can make my 4:3 letter-boxed footage into 16:9. Why can't I send it as 4:3 only ? Same applies to PAL/NTSC standard ...
Q8: What video format is required to upload my short i.e. .mov, .wmv or .mp4 etc. ? (I guess anything should be accepted ...)
Q9: Is there anything more to upload with the short-video file ?
Q10: Is it possible to promote/sponsor the first-three winning shorts in all other festivals by the DVXUser.com ?
Q11: What's the difference between horror & hallow ? (Coz my short is kinda horror ...)

Note: I request you to finalize/freeze the set of rules as soon as possible ...

Thanks -

spooky138
09-12-2007, 08:05 AM
Pakistan rules!

Barry_S
09-12-2007, 09:53 AM
Q1: Les than 5 minutes is cool.
Q2: Varies by the fest.
Q3: No problem.
Q4: Grape juice ok for "dry" countries and counties :) It's just a prop.
Q5: See above.
Q6: Please try to keep credits to 10-sec max. Title is in addition to credits, but it should be brief.
Q7: Whatever program you use to create your web file should allow you to crop to 16:9.
Q8: We'll announce exact specs, but H.264/MPEG 4/AVC is the format.
Q9: No.
Q10: Not sure what you mean, can you elaborate?
Q11: All Hallows+darkness is a theme or motif, horror is a genre. Horror fits.

Brandon Rice
09-12-2007, 10:31 AM
Hi Barry... looking forward to this fest!

HaroonGhauree
09-13-2007, 12:13 AM
spooky138 Rules! & Thanks Barry ... "Dry Country!" I like the term, has been used a-lot ... OK ... let me clear you my Q7, Q8 & Q10 here with elaborations:

Q7: Is it possible for DVXUser.com to provide services of up-converting 4:3 footage to 16:9 ... As any stretching literally causes a total (almost) visual chaos ?

Q8: The possible desired format can only be acquired by QuickTime Pro ... A luxury I can't afford ! Is it possible for DVXUser.com to provide this service as well ?

Q10: For the 3 Winners of DVX All Hallows Fest ... The winning shorts should be promoted, sponsored and screened by the DVXUser.com in all possible festivals around the world ... That would be the finest prize for the winners of this fest ... Is it a possibility ?

Thanks once again !

Note: If I'm asking too much ... do mention it as well ...

Jack Daniel Stanley
09-13-2007, 05:09 AM
spooky138 Rules! & Thanks Barry ... "Dry Country!" I like the term, has been used a-lot ... OK ... let me clear you my Q7, Q8 & Q10 here with elaborations:

Q7: Is it possible for DVXUser.com to provide services of up-converting 4:3 footage to 16:9 ... As any stretching literally causes a total (almost) visual chaos ?
There are 80 movies sometimes. Doing this FOR you is impractical. Tell people what your NLE is and / or what compression software you are using and they will help you figure out how to do it yourself. try searching first becasue likely there are several threads that address how to do this.




Q8: The possible desired format can only be acquired by QuickTime Pro ... A luxury I can't afford ! Is it possible for DVXUser.com to provide this service as well ?

You might get a user to do this for you. But there is no staff at DVXuser to do this for you. Also, without knowing more about your NLE and your compression software it may not be true at all that you can only deliver a 16X9 dot mov with QT pro.


Q10: For the 3 Winners of DVX All Hallows Fest ... The winning shorts should be promoted, sponsored and screened by the DVXUser.com in all possible festivals around the world ... That would be the finest prize for the winners of this fest ... Is it a possibility ?
Prizes are donated. The one thing no one has anymore of to donate is time. Promoting a winning film as a winning film all around the world would be the filmmaker's responsibility. Also entering 3 films in all major festivals all over the world would quickly become more expensive than the most extravagant prize we've ever had.

Basically, if you are not getting the gist, this is a FREE contest run by VOLUNTEERS. I am sure you are appreciative of that fact, but you are already being given a bounty by being allowed to participate for free in an event that is very time consuming to organize. Can you imagine if 80 people just dumped their films on Barry and Larry in whatever format and asked them to mod them into the correct festival format.?





Thanks once again !

Note: If I'm asking too much ... do mention it as well ...

mmmm ... Maybe. :) But no one will hold it against you. Members will gladly help you figure out how to get your film uploaded in the proper format, but the festival organizers should not be asked to actually do it for you. Same goes for pimping your movie all over the world after the festival.

Looking forward to your entry.

TwistedLincoln
09-13-2007, 10:33 PM
I'm not suggesting this for this fest (it's too late in the game to start changing the rules anyway), but perhaps for the next one, deliverables could be in Ogg Theora (http://www.theora.org/) format rather than Mpeg4?

Theora is patent-free, and is available at no charge for ALL platforms (Windows, Linux, and MacOS), so no one will have any issues using it. It offers compression and quality comparable to many Mpeg4 codecs.

Also, Theora streams very well via the Cortado java applet (http://www.flumotion.net/cortado/) or iTheora (http://menguy.aymeric.free.fr/theora/index.php?l=en), so we could even arrange an easy way to screen them via streaming video (bandwidth allowing, of course), if we wanted to.

triplej96
09-14-2007, 01:19 PM
Damn I missed the boat. I need to enter my 1st dvx festival. I "shoot" for the next one if it sounds cool. So where do this get screened at who judges these? Does dvxuser have on every few months?

thanks

Jason Ramsey
09-14-2007, 01:25 PM
You haven't missed the boat. The festival is open for entries. The deadline for entries is October 26th for this one (I think). We do do them every few months or so. They are screened right here by all of the members. Every film that is submitted gets viewed and voted on by the public (unless it doesn't meet the simple guidelines for the fest and is disqualified). The judges are anyone who is a member of this forum and has at least 100 posts (or submitted a film of their own).

Jason

triplej96
09-14-2007, 01:28 PM
You haven't missed the boat. The festival is open for entries. The deadline for entries is October 26th for this one (I think). We do do them every few months or so. They are screened right here by all of the members. Every film that is submitted gets viewed and voted on by the public (unless it doesn't meet the simple guidelines for the fest and is disqualified). The judges are anyone who is a member of this forum and has at least 100 posts (or submitted a film of their own).

Jason

Awesome,
I will talk to some people to see if I can get a crew.

thanks Jason.

David_H
09-16-2007, 05:55 AM
I just had a quick question about this:

All cameras are eligible to participate and fo for prizes.

All cameras are eligible for prizes? fo?

Jack Daniel Stanley
09-16-2007, 10:29 AM
Obviously that's a typo.

Isaac_Brody
09-16-2007, 11:00 AM
Fi-fi-fixed the typo.

Gohanto
09-18-2007, 02:11 AM
I'm assuming that for B+W films, a wine glass filled with something dark works? (trying to resist every temptation to "Sin City" the color of red wine into B+W, but I know it wouldn't serve my story)

Jason Ramsey
09-18-2007, 09:37 AM
Yes. I had to ask this question just to be positive as well. Wine glass with dark liquid for black and white films is ok.

Later,
Jason

spooky138
09-20-2007, 08:35 AM
Can I make a music video for this fest... assuming it conforms with the guidelines? Has anyone done that in the past?

Barry_S
09-20-2007, 09:33 AM
The intent is really aimed at a short narrative film, but the rules don't really specify a genre, so if you want to do a music video, that's ok. I think someone entered a music video in one of our previous fests and we all survived.

spooky138
09-20-2007, 02:37 PM
Cool, thanks. Personally, I prefer narrative works... but this might be a way for me to kill the proverbial two birds with one stone.

Matthew R. Rodwell
09-21-2007, 09:35 PM
Can I make a music video for this fest... assuming it conforms with the guidelines? Has anyone done that in the past?

Yes his name was Michael Jackson (not sure what his DVXUser name is...) in a lil project he likes to call "Thriller" :P

spooky138
09-23-2007, 10:04 AM
Sweet... dancing zombies, vincent price, and michael as a werewolf! Does it get any better? I think not. Did he shoot it on a dvx or an hvx? ;)

jjon
09-27-2007, 07:26 PM
sweet... this is my chance to enter and see if i'm worth anything! where do i sign up? sorry i'm new here...

jjon
09-27-2007, 07:37 PM
can you enter more than one film into the contest?

Barry_S
09-27-2007, 08:15 PM
Welcome to DVXFest. To enter, all you need to do is submit your film by the deadline--we'll have the details posted close to the submission date. You can submit up to two flms, but I think you're better off putting your energy and resources into a single film.

Brandon Rice
09-28-2007, 12:07 PM
Can we show outtakes in our thread?

Barry_S
09-28-2007, 12:33 PM
After the films screen outtakes are fine. Before that, it's more like a trailer and verboten.

Brandon Rice
09-28-2007, 01:37 PM
hm. ok... thanks.

moviemaker999
10-01-2007, 07:00 PM
can we shoot this on 35mm film.

Jack Daniel Stanley
10-01-2007, 07:34 PM
That would be awesome, and yes you can.

lauralouface
10-02-2007, 09:34 PM
Perhaps this is a silly question, but can you give me an example of how to word an acknowledgement to dvxuser.com in my credits???

Jason Ramsey
10-03-2007, 03:24 AM
"Thanks to DVXuser"
"For DVXuser"
"Special thanks to..."
"I love DVXuser"
"DVXuser is the bestest-est"

:)
Jason

MOVIE MASTER
10-03-2007, 07:57 PM
anyone know what are the prizes?

Jared Meyer
10-03-2007, 08:10 PM
How does a new set of tupperware sound?

MOVIE MASTER
10-03-2007, 08:15 PM
great I will bring the salad!

Jared Meyer
10-03-2007, 08:16 PM
:) No prizes announced. There will probably be a prize or two of some sort, but not announced until the contest deadline. The intention is to take the focus off of the prizes as this is really more of a festival than a competition...

BergVision
10-03-2007, 09:59 PM
Hey Guys.

If I can find some time I think I will shoot a short for this just for fun.

Look Forward to it.

Barry_S
10-03-2007, 10:08 PM
We'll announce the prizes closer to the entry date. We usually have some pretty decent gear for you guys. But Jared's right, the prizes aren't the main focus--because you never know when we might run dry and have to give out Cadbury Eggs to the winners.

cinealma
10-03-2007, 10:13 PM
We'll announce the prizes closer to the entry date. We usually have some pretty decent gear for you guys. But Jared's right, the prizes aren't the main focus--because you never know when we might run dry and have to give out Cadbury Eggs to the winners.

Cadbury eggs? Ugh. Why don't you throw in some black licorice, dark chocolate and a Shamrock shake while you're at it. :eek::zombie_smiley:

Brandon Rice
10-03-2007, 10:15 PM
It's all about the fun, and thrill of getting out there and making a film!

Weston
10-03-2007, 10:17 PM
We'll announce the prizes closer to the entry date. We usually have some pretty decent gear for you guys. But Jared's right, the prizes aren't the main focus--because you never know when we might run dry and have to give out Cadbury Eggs to the winners.

As long as they are caramel i'd be happy.

BergVision
10-03-2007, 11:43 PM
We'll announce the prizes closer to the entry date. We usually have some pretty decent gear for you guys. But Jared's right, the prizes aren't the main focus--because you never know when we might run dry and have to give out Cadbury Eggs to the winners.

I'm just going to have fun with this one.
I'm pretty busy with paying video work, but I really want to put something together just for fun. And since I have never entered any DVXUSER contests this will be my first!

When and How do I submit the video? Email? Link? DVD? Post?

Barry_S
10-04-2007, 07:03 AM
Great--welcome to the fest. We'll have our upload instructions posted closer to the deadline. It's a very easy system that allows uploading of the user films.

George_Bailey
10-04-2007, 10:21 AM
I'd like to try and enter this.

Trying to figure out the rules. Does it have to be "darkness" with a Halloween theme or just "darkness" (like, a "dark" 4th of July theme would be OK?)

Kirk Attard
10-06-2007, 12:14 AM
As this is the first contest I am entering I'd need some help on how to export the movie (format). I use Premiere but I never bought extra codecs. I would like to know if I need to purchase one so I won't have a last day panic attack.

Jason Ramsey
10-06-2007, 01:09 AM
George: That would be ok. Darkness as the theme is the requirement. Taking place on Halloween is encouraged, but not required.

Kirk: I would search around in the premiere section. There are a couple of good tutorials that I have come across in there that folks seem to like. I don't use Premiere so I can't help you. But, there are some smart folks who do. You are smart to try to start figuring it out now if you haven't dealt with it before :)

Anyways, I'd search around in the Premiere section like I said, and try some of the suggestions you find. If you still have questions, feel free to post up in one of the threads about it.

Take care, and good luck to you guys.

Later,
Jason

BergVision
10-06-2007, 11:02 AM
Coming Soon To "All Hallows Fest" 2007!

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x268/BergVisionStudios/UntilDeathPoster.jpg

Written in 5 Seconds
Shot In 2 Hours
Edited in 4 Hours.

"An Emotional Masterpeice"
"Amazing Use of Red Wine In a Film" says....Me.

Kirk Attard
10-07-2007, 04:38 AM
I found this codec. It sells for $60. Does anyone know if it is any good? or maybe someone who has used it before. It's not expensive and seems to do a good job. . Thanks for any help.

http://movavi.com/suite/

Kirk Attard
10-07-2007, 04:38 AM
This is another codec that supports Mpeg4 encription. Cheaper and seems quite user friendly. Maybe someone used it and can report results.

http://www.winferno.com/c/002/babelvideo/babel-video.asp?gclid=CKmYqPHb-44CFR5YZwod8TCXug

rfox
10-08-2007, 10:11 AM
This sounds cool. I'm in. Script done, location secured, time is short :)

I'm worried about the theme, though. Maybe my film idea is not "dark" enough? I think it's eerie, and involves some supernatural activity -- does a theme of "darkness" imply something malicious, malevolent, or sinister? Anyone care to opine?

Jason Ramsey
10-08-2007, 11:15 AM
Doesn't have to be malicious in nature, I don't think. You should be fine. It's pretty open with a suggested leaning towards Horror-ish, Halloween-ish story, but not required. Just a dark overall feel/theme.

Later,
Jason

Barry_Green
10-08-2007, 11:57 AM
If you're concerned, you could PM Barry_S with the basics of your idea and let him advise you as to whether it'd be appropriate for the fest.

Ben Sliker
10-09-2007, 11:18 AM
does anyone know what the file size limit is gonna be? I'm going to put my vote in for 50 mb, i think you'd be able to get a nice quality 640x360 file w/good audio at that size.

Ben Sliker
10-10-2007, 06:01 AM
you still might have to get a little creative with your compression. I just remember it was difficult to get a 640x360 file for spyfest (6 min) under 50 mb. I think with 5 min, it will produce good quality 640x360's or in your case, a great quality smaller video.

tip - adjust your sound compression, it takes up a lot of space sometimes.

Kirk Attard
10-12-2007, 04:13 AM
I rendered with Premiere CS3 using its Adobe media encoder. (480x240) around 8.5 megs per minute. Quite happy with results. When it opens with quicktime I enlarged it a little with no pixelation.

Jason Ramsey
10-12-2007, 12:06 PM
Upload info will be announced soon (not meaning today, or even this week) as we get a bit closer.

You can pretty much bet that it will he an H264. File size is still to be determined. 40-50 megs probably. I know we've got plenty of mirror space this time, so Barry and Larry may make it 50 megs, but it's up to them.

On exporting to h264: You should be able to get a nice quality 640x360 file to come in around 50 megs. Another thing to check about is what audio settings are you using. This can eat up a lot of unnecessary megabyte's if you aren't careful. Try going lower quality as long as you are still happy with the sound if you are having trouble with filesize.

I think my BTS was like 85 megs and that was over 10 minutes long. I did it when my qt export was messed up even and all I could do was set the audio and the bitrate (which was 500). I was quite happy with the quality of the export.

Later,
Jason

Dmitry Yun
10-12-2007, 12:12 PM
Great news, quick question Jason, any ideas on the actual audio format and settings that you used when exporting the h264 file? Or if there are suggestion on a good setting that would be also very much appreciated. Thank you.

Jason Ramsey
10-12-2007, 12:16 PM
I'm not the best person to ask, but I have used something like 24bit floating point, 24,xhz 16bit mono. and then in options I choose little endian. Sound is pretty good with that. I have toyed with some others (like apple lossless, etc) but not a lot and don't really have any filesize comparisons for you. But, I do know that you can save a lot of space based on what settings you use for your sound, and still have perfectly fine audio.

Later,
Jason

Dmitry Yun
10-12-2007, 12:28 PM
Thank you for the info. Guess it's trial and error time. :) Good luck on your entry btw.

Jason Ramsey
10-12-2007, 01:20 PM
My BTS was over 10 minutes and was 85 megs @ 640x360 and I was greatly hindered at the time I encoded it by quicktime conflicts. I could only choose a set bitrate, single pass, and tweak my audio... I've since gotten that fixed...

But, I have often made 5-6 minute 640x360 h264s that are what I would consider to be pretty nice quality that are all 50 megs or less.

Jason

Brandon Rice
10-12-2007, 01:22 PM
Apple Lossless is a great Audio codec. I use it for everything.

Marlon Ladd
10-16-2007, 07:15 AM
Okay, I'm a little confused. In order to post pics on your thread, you have to have a URL link, which means the pics have to be on the net somewhere, right? Is that considered promotion??

Jason Ramsey
10-16-2007, 07:59 AM
No. You can't publicly promote your film outside of DVXuser. If you don't have a link to the url of those pics anywhere else, then you aren't promoting it. You are just storing the files for posting... Make sense?

Also, you can use the member upload center here and upload the pics to one of the DVXuser servers for posting.

Big difference between storing pictures on your hosting space so you can post them here, and storing pictures on your hosting space and then posting links to those pictures on other sites. It's the posting of the links that would become promotion.

Later,
Jason

Marlon Ladd
10-16-2007, 12:45 PM
Thanks a bunch, Jason. That answered my question perfectly. I was really worried there for a minute.

Also, I went to the Member Upload page and it denied me access. Do you have any idea what that's about?

Jen Bright
10-19-2007, 07:23 PM
Looking forward to watching everyones entries! Hooray.

BergVision
10-20-2007, 04:01 AM
Okay, I'm a little confused. In order to post pics on your thread, you have to have a URL link, which means the pics have to be on the net somewhere, right? Is that considered promotion??

There are many different "hosting" services out there.
In my case I can host images on my own server. I sometimes use a hosting service like Photobucket or Flickr. Unless you are placing your images on websites that "promote" such items, you are simply having your photos "HOSTED" in a location for hot linking.

:nads:

Karl151k
10-27-2007, 04:45 PM
Did I just miss the part where it said whether or not we could post trailers here? I think they stopped doing that a few fests ago, but I can't remember. Also, when can we post our BTS footage? Thanks

mikkowilson
10-27-2007, 05:12 PM
The rule reads...
Films may only be promoted on DVXuser.com before screening and no actual footage from films may be screened prior to the DVXuser screening. No promotion on external web sites is allowed until after the screening has been completed.

My interpritation of that would be that Traliers are ok, provided they don't include any footage that's in the final cut.

But please check with Barry_S on this one to be sure before posting.

- Mikko

Marlon Ladd
10-29-2007, 06:38 AM
Thanks, Berg.

Michele Seidman
10-29-2007, 10:29 PM
OK, is it just me or do rules seem to bother people. I just read one post after another for the last 5 or 6 pages where everyone is asking to break the rules. I agree with Barry about the rules...even if my opinion means nothing.

The filmmakers seem to miss the fact that they had weeks to work on their project and weeks to read the rules. I am amazed at how many ask to have the rules altered for them. I am amazed anyone would write a long script for a 6 minute film and then claim to not understand why that won't work!

I know I can't do what you all do....so I don't even try. I just figure those who can do it should put in the real effort or not bother or let it screen without being qualified so you can promote it and then prepare better next time!

And really read the rules...that IS why they get posted.

BergVision
10-30-2007, 01:02 AM
I AGREE! RULES ARE RULES!

Our profession depends on being able to follow directions and rules.
If you have 30 minutes of air time, you can't try to sneak a 35 minute movie in.

If a Studio requires a 90 minute movie, they don't mean 120 minutes.

6 - 1 = 5. It's simple Simple math.


OK, is it just me or do rules seem to bother people. I just read one post after another for the last 5 or 6 pages where everyone is asking to break the rules. I agree with Barry about the rules...even if my opinion means nothing.

The filmmakers seem to miss the fact that they had weeks to work on their project and weeks to read the rules. I am amazed at how many ask to have the rules altered for them. I am amazed anyone would write a long script for a 6 minute film and then claim to not understand why that won't work!

I know I can't do what you all do....so I don't even try. I just figure those who can do it should put in the real effort or not bother or let it screen without being qualified so you can promote it and then prepare better next time!

And really read the rules...that IS why they get posted.

Michele Seidman
10-31-2007, 09:53 AM
Yes....exactly! Simple math!!! love that ya said that Berg!

Barry_Green
10-31-2007, 11:26 AM
Funny thing is, it's that runtime rule that kept Michele's fantastic starring role in our film from being in competition... we ended up running way over time! :)

Michele Seidman
10-31-2007, 05:00 PM
Funny thing is, it's that runtime rule that kept Michele's fantastic starring role in our film from being in competition... we ended up running way over time! :)

shup....lol....awww you say the nicest things but I feel bad we went over time....but heck...at least it is getting seen and dag nab it...i will pay to enter it in cucalorus for next year!!

I think Macs camera work is incredible...Jack gave us such a wonderful script and then in editing and post he made weak points look strong! You and David did such a great job putting it together and the sets...and Shaun deserves the credit....I giggled when I saw that! He really does deserve it...

I cannot thank you guys enough for casting me to play that part. Now when I have make up on and hair spray everyone will think I got plastic surgery or something...ha ha ha

Still getting used to the idea of trying hard to look bad for a film....but it was so worth it.

Michele Seidman
09-14-2008, 10:43 AM
To Jack, Barry, David, Shaun, JR and the rest of the 'Dream Team'

Just a cool bit of information to share. I went downtown Friday night to support some musician buddies and turned out the event was to raise support for this years Cucalorus Film Festival.

I was stopped by one of the long standing members/'programers' who proceeded to tell me she LOVED the entries that got turned in by the Wrightsville Beach Studios folks. She mentioned both 'A Little Mouth to Feed' and 'Unawakening' and proceeded to tell me that she had to do a double take when she figured out I was Flora and went on and on about Shauns incredible acting too.

Turns out she is one of those who gives each project 3 minutes and rates it. In the case of both 'dream team' films she watched them in full and was amazed by the quality. She also told me she gave 'ALMTF' her highest rating.

I don't know when they get done selecting but I would love to think her thoughts reflect those of others at the festival. There is no way of telling of course but it was so nice of her to pull me aside and tell me about it. She even knew I was the shrink...with the wig and low light and all. I was a little amazed by that one myself because so many others missed it.

I took great glee in telling her how Shaun was my 'stand in' giving birth and we both shared a giggle and she went on to chat with others at the music event.

I heard there is another week or two before anyone hears back but I also submitted one of the first music vdeos I have produced and if both of your projects get in and the music video...I will feel better than I have in ages (shoulder surgery and all). Heck, I'll be happy if any of them get in but my secret wish...not a secret now...is that all of them get in to the festival.

I am certain you will hear before I will on the 2 films, so keep me posted when you find out something. I was just tickled pink to be pulled aside and told how much she loved the work we all did together. You know I sang all of your praises as I am prone to do but honestly...I am still a bit amazed by those projects and it is almost a year since we shot them!

All my best gang...

Michele Seidman

PS...Jack...clips for reel, pretty please! ;) wink wink nudge nudge