Is this footage's noise acceptable?

[someday]

Hello,
do you think that this footage's noise is accettable?
(shoot in 108025p), Letus35FE

hvx200 footage 1080p (http://www.giovannisperanza.com/videoclips/Sequence.mov)




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[SurJones]

Well I want to say that in my opinion noise is perfectly fine and should be expected. As long as your story is not interrupted by the grain. Watch any motion picture, I bet at some point you'll see grain. But most of the time I would say the Cinematographer can look at the set or shot and say there will be grain and will do what he/she can to light the subject to keep the grain out. That being said, this is only my opinion, and is what I do. Story is important and so many motion picture and indi films have such bad stories.

[someday]

I agree. I noticed that when i play the clip on a SD timeline and watch it on a CRT monitor, the noise is totally vanished (maybe because i'ts smaller than an SD pixel) and the image looks incredibly clean.

[FallenWyvern]

Wow man, all I can say is that if you're worried about the grain on that, I should panic about my work. Those shots are beautifully clean (and well composed btw, give your cinematographer a slap on the back.)

Anyway, beautiful clip, but no worries about quality.

[someday]

ok i will tell my gf to slap my butt!!!! hahaha

[hoofandmouf]

fear not my friend.... those look fine.

dont be scared of noise/grain... its all about the story

Harlan County USA, Pi, Collateral = all had MAD noise/grain and they all kicked ass

[someday]

Thank you all, i feel better now.

[Justyn]

my response would be... what noise? lol. Looks pretty clean to me and they are right, it depends upon what you view it on. My Del 2405 is the worst for viewing our footage. Yours looks pretty nice and clean indeed.. I on the other hand have some really noisy footage from a year ago before I followed the low-light and low noise settings that Barry put up.

[Justin Marx]

noise? I didn't HEAR anything? j/k... looks sharp as a tack..

[TimurCivan]

dont watch the footage on a LAptop or LCD monitor. watch it on a real monitor. LCD monitors magnify and exaggerate noise.

BTW it looks GREAT. very clean. ( im watching on a CRT monitor)

[Brandon Rice]

Looks sharp and clean! Nice work :thumbsup:

[cane]

Oh! man This is a very noise footage
What camera is this ??
i whant this noise camera I love it !!

[kevinM]

dont watch the footage on a LAptop or LCD monitor. watch it on a real monitor. LCD monitors magnify and exaggerate noise.

BTW it looks GREAT. very clean. ( im watching on a CRT monitor)

I looked at it running through a Matrox MXO on a 23" Apple Cinema display and it looks great.

By the way, it is true that viewing on a laptop or LCD computer monitor is no good for making critical judgements. However, saying not to view on an LCD in general is a bit misleading. The Panasonic 17" monitor is a true production monitor and it is an LCD.
Also, the Matrox MXO converts an Apple 23" Cinema display into a great and very accurate production monitor. I use it for my home setup and it is every bit as accurate (for the most part) as the higher end monitors at my office.

Shane Ross did an informative review of the MXO and a side-by-side comparison with a CRT production monitor and it held up very well. The link:

http://lfhd.blogspot.com/2007/03/matrox-mxo-part-2.html

The latest firmware version makes it even better and adds blue gun bars calibration.

[CacheMoneyVideo]

what are you settings if you don't mind.

[Kholi]

Wow the Letus is mad clean. What the heck?

[mbv]

very clean, sharp and noiseless :) , what kind of lens did you use on the footage 50mm ?
and what are the setting of the slr lens on the first shot 2.8 ?

[someday]

I used a Nikon 50mm lens, full open at f/1.4, compensated with ND when necessary.




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[TimurCivan]

I looked at it running through a Matrox MXO on a 23" Apple Cinema display and it looks great.

By the way, it is true that viewing on a laptop or LCD computer monitor is no good for making critical judgements. However, saying not to view on an LCD in general is a bit misleading. The Panasonic 17" monitor is a true production monitor and it is an LCD.
Also, the Matrox MXO converts an Apple 23" Cinema display into a great and very accurate production monitor. I use it for my home setup and it is every bit as accurate (for the most part) as the higher end monitors at my office.

Shane Ross did an informative review of the MXO and a side-by-side comparison with a CRT production monitor and it held up very well. The link:

http://lfhd.blogspot.com/2007/03/matrox-mxo-part-2.html

The latest firmware version makes it even better and adds blue gun bars calibration.


The matrox box converts the HD signal to the Mac/PC screen gamma and other parameters.

But watching the footage directly on the Screen though software like QT or FCP viewer slug will be mismatched between source and dispaly.

The Panasonic monitor is specifically desinged to show theHD signal. its also 3500$. PC/Mac monitors aresignificantly cheapre because they arent designed to do this.

[TimurCivan]

Wow the Letus is mad clean. What the heck?

its his camera setting, and the fact that its down ressed. Down ressing makes everyhtign look clean, plus, certain compression algorythms hide noise. WMVHD-9 kinda naturally denoises footage. Mpeg seems to display it naturally as is, so does H.264. However when the footage is downressed and GOP compressed it tends to eliminate image noise.

[someday]

Is there a way to set the gamma on a Mac monitor in order to see the real gamma that will be on TV?



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[Kholi]

Then in that case, someday, can you post a few full res stills?

[TimurCivan]

dude... post full res footage!

Also i suspect his footage is clean anyway, there was a nice range of light to dark inthoes images, that tends ot help clean upa DVX/HVX image.

[RE1000]

I'm on a 17" Apple Studio Display and I saw no noise, footage looked very clean!

[Noel Evans]

dude... post full res footage!



Seems cleam. But best way to tell is via full res. I second Timur above.