View Full Version : 3:10 to Yuma.
Isaac_Brody
08-07-2007, 10:44 PM
Russell Crowe. Christian Bale. In a Western.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/310toyuma/hd/
I love the genre, but the trailer seems convoluted. I bet the performances are solid.
Brandon Rice
08-07-2007, 11:07 PM
Christine Bale rocks... looking forward to this.
Phil Maker
08-07-2007, 11:58 PM
A friend of mine is in this movie. He said the table read was mind blowing.
fixitinpost
08-08-2007, 01:50 PM
I can't wait to see this. I'm a junkie for anything with Christian Bale in it.
GaryinCalifornia
08-08-2007, 02:07 PM
The only thing for those of us who love westerns... the old Glen Ford 3:10 To Yuma is hard to beat...
Batutta
08-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Yeah, for a simple story the trailer is kind of convoluted...The original was basically a High Noon rip-off, albeit a good one. I actually did a trailer for the original once, for a now extinct VOD company.
Knoxworth
08-08-2007, 04:18 PM
Crowes' posse looks like they'll be pretty cool
Batutta
08-09-2007, 06:16 PM
Yeah, for a simple story the trailer is kind of convoluted...The original was basically a High Noon rip-off, albeit a good one. I actually did a trailer for the original once, for a now extinct VOD company.
Holy shit! I actually found the original 3:10 to Yuma trailer I cut on YouTube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AecMZH1a1z0
Phil Maker
08-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Why don't they give some original ideas a chance. Idiots.
Batutta
08-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Why don't they give some original ideas a chance. Idiots.
Well, according to this article in Variety, they ought to--
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117968159.html?categoryid=13&cs=1
Noel Evans
08-11-2007, 07:13 PM
Holy shi*! I actually found the original 3:10 to Yuma trailer I cut on YouTube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AecMZH1a1z0
Man you showed the best line too. "My own grandmother fought the Indians for 60 years. Then chocked to death on lemon pie" classic.
Cant wait to see the remake.
traviscool
08-23-2007, 06:24 PM
Yeah
J.R. Hudson
08-23-2007, 06:30 PM
I only get excited about the SEARCH function
traviscool
08-23-2007, 07:03 PM
I did nothing shows up under titles or posts, I just used the 'to' which is apparently too common sorry.
Blaine
08-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Once a staple of Hollywood, the Western has unfortunately fallen on hard times. There just aren't many being made and those that are just aren't that good. The last really good Western I saw was an Australian Western, The Proposition (http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0421238/). This is easily the best since then. 3:10 to Yuma (http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0381849/) is kickass in the way the Westerns from the sixties and seventies were. In fact this movie owes a lot to The Outlaw Josie Wales (http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0075029/) and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0064115/) (the writers' personal favorites) as well as the original 3:10 to Yuma (http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0050086/) shot in 1957. This movie is different than most Westerns of this type though, in that the protaganist (Christian Bale) and antagonist (Russell Crowe) spend almost the whole movie together. This isn't about the chase but instead, about getting to the train station. There is plenty of action along the way.
Interestingly, the director, James Mangold, has been a HUGE fan of the original 3:10 to Yuma. Apparently it was his favorite movie and he made Cop Land (http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0118887/) as an homage to the original 3:10 to Yuma...even naming the Stallone character after the actor who played Dan Evans in the original, Van Heflin. The writers of this remake were told of Mangold's facination with the original and pitched the remake to him and it grew out of that. Their only other produced movie was 2 Fast, 2 Furious but I won't hold that against them.
The cast in this movie does a great job, particularly, Bale, Crowe, Peter Fonda and Ben Foster. I think it's a breakout role for Foster who is the meanest sumbitch since Johnny Ringo in Tombstone (http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0108358/). Luke Wilson made a short appearance even though I don't find him credited.
An interesting dynamic in this story is the relationship of Dan Evans (Bale) and his oldest son, William (Logan Lerman). William loves the Dime Novels and looks at Ben Wade (Crowe) in awe. On the other hand, he sees his father as a contemptable failure of a rancher. Much of the story is about how Bale deals with this.
This is a really good shoot 'em up Western and I recommend it to anyone who is a fan of the genre. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
mjjason
08-29-2007, 02:24 PM
I'm assuming you saw it Blaine? I was not really interested in seeing this as I hate all these remakes but your comments have peaked my interest.
I recently saw The Proposition and while I think it is far better than many other westerns made today I still felt it lacked something that older western films had. There wasn't really a hero or a villian in that film which wasn't a big problem but when the resolution came I was not fully satisfied.
As for the new western's being mostly crap, I hear they are making Young Guns 3; nough said.
Blaine
08-29-2007, 02:45 PM
I saw it at a screening last night. The screenwriters spoke afterward. I enjoyed the movie. It is a remake but there have been some significant changes.
Mark Harris
09-07-2007, 10:41 PM
Yeah, I liked this. Mangold is a real meat and potatoes director, not working the fancy camera so much as focusing on the real basics. I like him a lot. the performances here were really amazing and a good lesson for actors in doing nothing on screen. At some points, the performances were so subtle, they took me back to something like Once Upon a Time in the West (Bronson basically gives a class in acting on film in that movie, and it's sad that he is remembered for junk like Death Wish when he was such a master at screen acting.) Mangold loves character, as also seen in things like Copland and Dark Blue.
I also thought the writing was very tight and Dan Evans character was shown in very specific and crisply drawn actions. His weakness, how he is pushed and when he wants to seem like he is pushing back. Really tight, single line/actions getting ideas across. I kind of wish there was a little more of that kind of detail in Ben Wade. Like when the kid says he has some good, he rescued them from the indians, I almost wish he would have said nothing there, instead of the bit about how he would have killed them too, etc. Leave it hanging there for us to figure out.
the only thing was that Ben Wade's transformation seemed a tad under-justified. Maybe that is what I meant about his character not as sharply drawn as Dan's.
Anyway, good film. And Peter Fonda was GREAT.
Weston
09-08-2007, 12:34 AM
I thought it was good. Just the fact that I was watching a real western in theaters was an awesome experience. Of course Christian Bale and Russell Crowe were great, but I think I liked Ben Foster as much as either of them...which was a suprise. He played the creepy/insane western outlaw to perfection. Luke Wilson kind of came out of no where...which was cool because I had no idea he was in it.
I think my only gripe is that I wish James Mangold would have opened it up a bit and not filmed so tight and shaky. Its really contemporary and boring camerawork for the most part.
Hopefully this revives the western....at least for a little while. I kind out doubt it though because today me and my friend were the only people there under 50 years old.
Phil Maker
09-08-2007, 01:51 AM
Saw it. Good movie.
Ben Foster stole the show.
Cinematography was nothing special. I would have liked it to have been stylized. It wasn't.
The tone was dry and dusty. It was... to quote a line from the movie "a one note song".
The story ended with a bang though. Left you thinking all the way home. Which is rare. Good job overall.
CineMischief
09-08-2007, 08:18 PM
Shame more haven't chimed in on this film...I love the morality and lack there of in this genre. Great flick. And, um, where did Ben Foster pull this performance from? Admittedly, I've only seen him in X-Men...and then forgot him. Nice surprise. See the movie.
Mark Harris
09-08-2007, 08:22 PM
oh yeah, good call. I didn't know who Ben Foster was and man, he ROCKED it. What a really terrific performance.
Batutta
09-08-2007, 08:42 PM
Ben Foster was in Six Feet Under and was very good in it, so he's proven his acting chops before.
Isaac_Brody
09-08-2007, 08:54 PM
Yeah, Foster was excellent in Six Feet Under. He was also really good in Liberty Heights, I'm catching Yuma this week.
Brandon Rice
09-09-2007, 12:59 AM
Just caught the flick tonight. Great cast, great writing. It was definitely a good flick! 4 out of 5 for me. I'd check this one out on the big screen for sure. My only negative of this film is I felt Christian Bale's acting was a little off sometimes... anyway, all in all, great movie.
MotionFx
09-09-2007, 01:27 AM
Loved it! Ben Foster stole the show.
traviscool
09-09-2007, 09:57 PM
Just saw it the other day man it was good, Christen Bale is definitely defining himself as a great actor however, he was almost overshadowed from by all the rest of what was a great cast, still did a great job and everyone was superb. I really hope this and The Assignation of Jessie James by the Coward Robert Ford help to bring westerns back.
Sad Max
09-10-2007, 11:18 AM
Saw it Saturday at the Cinerama Dome.
Great stuff. Didn't even recognize Peter Fonda.
Joops
09-23-2007, 06:22 PM
Saw it. Loved it. Bale keeps bringing it to another level. Crowe (while not one of my favorites) nailed this role. The acting was so subtle it was fascinating to watch. Great writing, direction, cinematography. The gun shot foley was awesome.
Josh_Boelter
09-24-2007, 07:16 PM
I loved this movie. The writing and direction were really good, but just watching Bale, Crowe, and Foster was well worth the price of admission. On a side note, it was kind of funny seeing Luke Wilson in a small role in a western.
Blaine
09-24-2007, 07:21 PM
just watching Bale, Crowe, and Foster was well worth the price of admission.And don't forget Peter Fonda...
Sad Max
09-25-2007, 09:33 AM
Didn't even recognize Fonda. And boy, was he great.
Josh_Boelter
09-27-2007, 10:14 AM
Yeah, it took me a couple minutes to recognize Peter Fonda as well. He was excellent.
karapetkov
12-24-2007, 05:09 PM
Very good movie.
Jg Marceaux BestBetter
12-26-2007, 05:00 PM
Cowboys need target practice. Pretty pathetic ending, if you ask me.
Sad Max
12-26-2007, 09:33 PM
As much as I enjoyed the movie overall, I found the last ten-fifteen minutes damned puzzling. I mean, I can account for Wade's decision, but that's me finding his motivation for myself, not anything over the course of the story bringing me to it.
karapetkov
12-27-2007, 07:43 PM
I think it's just the respect and simpathy that Wade has for Dan's principles.
The devotion to his family, the image he wants to create for his boy. I think this just gets Wade and he likes Dan more than the "animals" he's surrounded by.
And from the very beginning he knows that most probably he will escape from the Yuma train, even if they get him on it.
Works for me.
VERY good actors.
karapetkov
01-13-2008, 01:25 AM
They gonna hang me in the mornin'... 'fore the night's done...
Sad Max
01-13-2008, 09:11 AM
Yeah, who the hell sits up all night before their own hanging, composing songs about it...?
Blaine
01-13-2008, 09:25 AM
This one ended much differently than the 1957 version (http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0050086/).
There were three pretty good movies this year with somewhat unconventional endings for Hollywood: 3:10 to Yuma, Eastern Promises and No Country for Old Men.
karapetkov
01-13-2008, 10:20 AM
It's a weird tune and I've been humming it these days, usually in the morning :).
The character of Dan is a bit idealized, but it's OK.
Seems that there's a trend for making risky endings this year :).
Josh W
01-13-2008, 08:26 PM
Just got the SAG screener for this. As a classic western fan I actually really enjoyed it! Thought they did a great job.
traviscool
01-14-2008, 07:28 AM
There were three pretty good movies this year with somewhat unconventional endings for Hollywood.
I noticed that too, but I just assumed that I was seeing different types of films this year then I normally do.
Rick Meyer
02-06-2008, 10:52 AM
I just caught this movie last night. I LOVED it. It was a good ol' fashion Western. Seriously, this felt more classic than I expected it to feel. Not a lot of modern Hollywood BS getting in the way...
As previously stated, Ben Foster was friggin' excellent and stole the show for me.
Having said that, the last 10-15 minutes of the movie partially tanked it for me. The whole premise and the decisions that were made at the end there were completely unbelievable for me. Sure, Wade has SOMEwhat of a conscious but c'mon...to have THAT much of a soft spot for Dan...just very lame. But, all in all that was only 10% of the movie. The previous 90% was kick a$$ and just an all around fantastic Western.
Sad Max
02-06-2008, 12:02 PM
Yeah, I felt the same way. The ending still impresses me as weird and forced and illogical.
David Jimerson
03-01-2008, 12:05 PM
As much as I enjoyed the movie overall, I found the last ten-fifteen minutes damned puzzling. I mean, I can account for Wade's decision, but that's me finding his motivation for myself, not anything over the course of the story bringing me to it.
I agree. I think the story completely unraveled when they got to town.
Before that, it was gold.
If you know a gang is coming to town with murderous intent, and you've got a couple of hours lead time, and you can see them coming from miles off . . .
Why the heck don't you have a dozen people on the rooftops and take them out before they can do anything?
ZFarms Productions
03-01-2008, 07:22 PM
i thought the movie was great. great performances. definitely on my top 10 list for 07