CINE-LIKE is meant for CC

[someday]

Hi,
I've heard people telling that they use the cinelike setting because it's mor filmic. Maybe, but it's intended for future color correction.
If you let it as it is, it's useless, contrastless and liveless.
Now the question: did somebody used it and added some CC and can he post some examples?
Thanks!

[Kholi]

I really do not understand what you just said.

Are you proposing that Cine-Like is specifically for Color Correction/Grading? And, if you say that it's intended for that... why don't you have examples instead?

[morisato]

I second what Kholi said.

If your opinion is that cinelike is for CC, then why dont you have examples yourself since you are the one who is stating the argument. No one else is stating that cinelike is for CC other than you. Everyone else is stating what you said others are saying, which is because it's more filmic. I personally dont believe cinelike is for CC specifically, but I do believe that every image should be CCed no matter how it was shot.

[someday]

heheh... because i ordered my HVX 3 days ago and i will get it in a pair of weeks.

[Kholi]

Oh okay. Well, show us when you get it.

[someday]

And i agree with you morisato, every image should be CCed no matter how it was shot, so my question is, WHY is cinelike best for CC? Maybe it has more useable colorimetry? But it has more grain?

[morisato]

See, now there's a question! Why is cinelike best for CC? In my opinion, it is not.

[someday]

So i will have to check eveery setting, cc it and decide what's best for my needs.

[TimurCivan]

Cinelike D looks awesome. what you call flat i call Natural tonal reproduction. too bad its so noisy. i wish we had the origional "cinegamma" from the dvx. that was superclean and nice and flat.

[SPZ]

Cinelike D looks awesome. what you call flat i call Natural tonal reproduction. too bad its so noisy. i wish we had the origional "cinegamma" from the dvx. that was superclean and nice and flat.


I agree...

[Arson]

Basically Cine-D is for having as much Dynamic Range in the image to tune it later.
Cine-V has the gamma adjusted so it crushes the blacks.
Shooting Cine-D gives you more options in post as to how light or dark a shot should be and how far you can manipulate it before it turns ugly. You can brighten up shadow areas in Cine-D footage without showing noise in the blacks much easier than doing it to Cine-V footage.

I often shoot Cine-V if I's shooting a band in a club or onstage because there will already be alot of dominant colors so I generally wont be CCing the footage much beyond maybe tweaking the saturation. I use Cine-D for the rest of my stuff so that when I post it I don't have precrushed blacks that I can't dig detail out of it because the cine-v gamma curves buried it in the blacks forever. I often shoot a couple seconds with the Cine-V to give me an idea of what it will look like CCd with crushed blacks.

If you don't do a lot of post work and just want to shoot and edit then go with whatever looks the way you want a shot. If you do a lot of post effects or image manipulation already then you would probably want the dynamic range have more color depth to adjust the footage

[David Jimerson]

Are you talking about the MATRIX or the GAMMA CURVE?

I thought this thread was referring to the Cine-Like Matrix, which pops the colors.

[someday]

So there is no ideal solution: Cinelike D is better for CC but has IMO unacceptable noise.
So what's would be a compromise?