View Full Version : P2 Metadata in Premiere with Raylight
Sam Fisher
07-01-2007, 06:32 PM
Has anybody solved the problem of renaming randomly assigned clip names in Premiere? I'm trying Raylight, which appears to work amazingly well, but the PC version apparently doesn't recognize the "User Clip Name." I don't understand why the Mac version gets preferential treatment here:embarasse
When I shoot I'm very careful to have the slate in shot before I roll so the thumbnail is always the scene, shot, take. I hoped it would be a fairly easy process to change User Clip Name in the P2 viewer and then just import to NLE. Apparenlty not.
Right now the only thing I can think of is to import all clips into Premiere, copy the old clip name, paste it into the log notes (in case I need to reconnect later) and then rename in the Premire bin.
I have about 500 gigs of footage from my recent shoot and I really am hoping to find an effecient way of logging all this.
Any suggestions?
Has anybody solved the problem of renaming randomly assigned clip names in Premiere? I'm trying Raylight, which appears to work amazingly well, but the PC version apparently doesn't recognize the "User Clip Name." I don't understand why the Mac version gets preferential treatment here:embarasse
When I shoot I'm very careful to have the slate in shot before I roll so the thumbnail is always the scene, shot, take. I hoped it would be a fairly easy process to change User Clip Name in the P2 viewer and then just import to NLE. Apparenlty not.
Right now the only thing I can think of is to import all clips into Premiere, copy the old clip name, paste it into the log notes (in case I need to reconnect later) and then rename in the Premire bin.
I have about 500 gigs of footage from my recent shoot and I really am hoping to find an effecient way of logging all this.
Any suggestions?
Rename the clip in Premiere, but leave the old clip name in there at the end, for example, "Scene23 Take 5 00023QF.MXF"
When the UserClipName feature comes to Raylight for Windows, that's probably how it will work.
Sam Fisher
07-02-2007, 08:29 AM
Thanks for your prompt reply. So far I'm very impressed. That's a pretty good idea. I didn't think of that. Saves the cut and paste step.
On a similar note, one of the reasons I love working with Premire is that it's so easy to bounce over into After Effects. What is the recommended workflow in and out of AE using raylight? I figured out that I can export AVI quite easily and it recognizes the files, then presumably export AVI again to get back into Premiere, but is this going to cause generational loss?
The last project I did in Avid and we exported DNX HD which AE accepted nicely, but then we exported jpeg sequences from AE which created a discernable "stuttering" on playback, kind of like the shutter speed was jacked up. I want to be sure not to get that kind of artefacting this time. I have a LOT of compositing to do on this footage.
Any insights here? Anything to look out for?
Oh, and one other question while I have your attention. Will I lose any work I do with the demo when I switch over to the fully licenced version? I.E. how serious can I get at the testing stage with edits etc.
Thanks for your prompt reply. So far I'm very impressed. That's a pretty good idea. I didn't think of that. Saves the cut and paste step.
On a similar note, one of the reasons I love working with Premire is that it's so easy to bounce over into After Effects. What is the recommended workflow in and out of AE using raylight? I figured out that I can export AVI quite easily and it recognizes the files, then presumably export AVI again to get back into Premiere, but is this going to cause generational loss?
Yes, but only about +1% added noise each generation if you consistently use native frame size. For example see
http://dvfilm.com/raylight/raylightRecomp.htm
The last project I did in Avid and we exported DNX HD which AE accepted nicely, but then we exported jpeg sequences from AE which created a discernable "stuttering" on playback, kind of like the shutter speed was jacked up. I want to be sure not to get that kind of artefacting this time. I have a LOT of compositing to do on this footage.
Any insights here? Anything to look out for?
Use a format like Raylight that's designed for real time playback.
Oh, and one other question while I have your attention. Will I lose any work I do with the demo when I switch over to the fully licenced version? I.E. how serious can I get at the testing stage with edits etc.
Purchase early and often :grin: Seriously don't wait for the last minute because you will have to rerender everything with a watermark.
Sam Fisher
07-02-2007, 10:59 AM
Thanks. That's amazing tech support. I think I just got more tech support from you in 24 hours than I have from Avid in two years.
I'm definitely going to go with Raylight for this project!
BTW, the stuttering in Avid was not a playback issue, it was rendered into the final files no matter what format we chose.